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10-25-2011, 05:01 PM
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For all you stupid skeptics (or liars)
I have to say I have a hard time believing anyone studied in electronics does not know about this. So either you are stupid or a bunch of liars. Either way it does not say much for any of you. I call this place a den or thieves but it could also be called a brood of vipers or snake den. Don't waste your time giving me a warning because I don't read your posts.
This technology has been around for over a hundred years and is referred to as ground radio. Note it says low power. Yes, it requires a bigger antenna than a Molecular Frequency Discrimiinator (MFD) and a filtering system, but the human body has it's own very sensitive detection system known as the human energy field or what some call the aura. So go ahead and make your stupid remarks how it can't possibly work. I'll just sit back and laugh at how riduculously biased you are. http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...eers_deve.html 
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10-25-2011, 06:12 PM
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You start off your topic with an abusive title, and then continue the abuse in what I could only call a "rant". Why are you always so defensive? Or perhaps, like Hung, you're trying to test the limits. Quote:
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10-25-2011, 06:40 PM
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First of all i suggest administrators to rename or delete title of this topic, because it is direct offend to all of us here.
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10-25-2011, 06:57 PM
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I can't figger it out.
Is Mike(Mont) saying the Lockheed Magnelink transmitter/receiver system is related to dowisng/LRL? Lemme see.... "Yes, it requires a bigger antenna than a Molecular Frequency Discrimiinator (MFD) and a filtering system, but the human body has it's own very sensitive detection system known as the human energy field or what some call the aura". So if I got it figgered out right, the human body "aura" does the work of very sensitive detection, filtering out external noises, and tuning only the signal you decide you want to hear. And we really don't need to spend millions on sophisticated filtered magnetic VLF transmitters and receivers on account of it is an unnecessary expense to duplicate communication from the effect of "aura". Interesting. I wonder why Lockheed spent all those millions to develop a transmitter and receiver when trapped miners could simply use their "aura" to tell folks up above when they have a problem and need help? Maybe Lockheed engineers saw too many miners trapped to believe their "aura" could allow them to send messages, or that "aura" even existed? If this topic is to be renamed, I might suggest "The Mike(Mont) Show" I find it entertaining. I would think we could also graft any new topics he opens into this thread too, so we can find all the Mike(Mont) episodes in one place without needing to search for them. Best wishes, J_P
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10-29-2011, 09:25 AM
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I got no response from admins. After a while, on other topic, i wrote reply to JPlayer, in which, among other things, i stated: "...to give them *** kicking from time to time.." meaning actually: "... to kick them with unbeatable arguments, relating to LRL debates..." So today i see my post is fully deleted!?!? What for? What was so insulting in it? And i also would like to know (actually i don't give a damn, but other poeple here deserves to know) who deleted my post? Carl or Qiaozhi? Because seems history is repeating here, on these forums. I left these forums for longer that year, just because of the same reason. Now is repeating. Seems somebody is not very happy with my presence here? Ok, i can accept that and i can live with that. But be a man, be fair, come up here in public and say who are you and what are you reasons for such attitude! Be a man - not chicken! Not because of me, because i don't give damn about you - but because of other members here! Let those people to know what's gonna happen with them if they acting like i was. Let the people know the truth. This is my final Good bye! My friends from this forum; if need me - can contact me via email. Cheers!
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10-29-2011, 09:44 AM
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Probably you are the first victim on admin stringents criteria on Aziz "Bull***" escapades in other topic only. Don't take so hart and personally all this.
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10-29-2011, 10:55 AM
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You probably missed this -> http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=81 Your post was not the only one that was deleted.
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10-29-2011, 01:09 PM
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Imagine what Galileo would say then?  You have interesting stuff to say, just go on.We are listening, don´t worry.
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10-29-2011, 01:56 PM
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http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...76037.html#new
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10-29-2011, 02:57 PM
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Ivconic, now you know how I feel for the last fifteen years!!! I don't see you being attacked by several people every single post you make.
To all here: I agree this forum and every other one is not fair. The personal attacks seem to be one sided against the LRL users. You have to fight with your hands tied behind your back. If you can't accept that then you shouldn't be here. I will repeat, the free market system works just fine. No one has the right to tell anyone how much they should charge for their equipment. That's communist, a controlled market and it doesn't work. Many people I know make over $50 to $100 per hour. If I applied that rate to my Revelation Rod I would have to charge a thousand dollars to even come close to breaking even. And I cut costs on everything--no labels no logos, no advertising, no brochure, no website, no overhead, no nothing. Why is it that some people cannot understand this? People have a right to make a living and it is wrong to prevent them. Furthermore, any judge that works for one corporation has no busness passing judgement on a competitor. That's what's happening here. The only explanation I can give is they are brainwashed into thinking they are doing good when it fact it is just the opposite. Of course some will say "It's good business." I pray for your recovery.
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10-26-2011, 11:18 AM
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also you have to explain what's the mixup of "aura" thing with that: ground radio it's a known fact and it's used in e.g. time signals in the LF band BUT when you ask people like Esteban or Morgan about if they are looking for time signals in LRL they do not say , the do not explain and you too I remember that many times Esteban posted a picture with a drawing of an early fisher experiment on metal detecting, where a transmitter and a receiver where used, and the transmitter antenna aimed in a way that the buried target reflected then the incoming electromagnetic waves to the receiver BUT asked also in that case about the time signal stations he did not answer! you know... we could also say here that you guys play with time signals and passive receivers LRLs work ( ) detecting that incoming time signal LF waves reflected by the conductive buried target , but it's really that way that happens ?don't you think that people with SOLID electronic and rf understanding can not even replicate these things but test them as expected and find these DON'T work as LRL people reported ? so... who's the stupid here... ? who does belive in something that fails and don't work in practice or who can fully replicate such stuff, test , find that it doesn't work as reported and tell you without problems ? think about 
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10-26-2011, 03:28 PM
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Thanks, Mike!
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And Mike (sorry, I know you don't read "skeptic" posts), thanks for that link. I was working with that kind of technology back in the late 80's to early 90's. Due to limitations on time and money it never got close to commercialization but it was a lot of fun. One of the things I did was to turn a TW-6 into a VLF SSB voice system. Another thing (which was much easier) was I turned a TW-6 into a WWVB receiver. Another kind of technology I developed was a self synchronously demodulated ULF BPSK earth current system. It was commercialized as a sheath fault locator, but I demoed it as a through-the-dirt data communications device. So, anyway, it's good to read that a company that has money to invest in underground communication is actually working toward commercialization of it. Of course none of that has anything to do with LRL's. --Dave J.
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10-27-2011, 12:10 AM
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10-27-2011, 02:45 PM
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You might be right, Geo. But I do go about it differently because I do not get sucked into their emotional pool. You might think that because I used the word "stupid" to describe them, but I assure you that is not the case. I don't even read their posts 95% of the time. Carl banned the word I wanted to use that aptly describes them "lacking in knowledge or training, unlearned". I guess that really hits a nerve with him.
Where I came from if you see someone stealing someone's livelihood, attacking crippled poeple, the blind, greiving widows, and you don't say something about it, you have commited a grievous sin. John Lennon wrote the song "Instant Karma" but that isn't really the case. It's not necessarily "instant" but it is eternal. It all goes back to Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. They put reason, rational thinking (which is only comparitive knowledge) ahead of direct perception. Once a person is dead, that part dies with them but their soul is eternal. People talk about greater than your worst nightmare, but words can't possibly describe it.
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10-27-2011, 03:42 PM
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They say if you want to get rid of someone who won't leave, start talking about dying, death, purgatory and watch, they will say "It's getting late. I have to go." Well, it's getting later than you think.
Just remember something, the skeptics tell everyone the LRL manufacturers are scammers but in reality that is a distraction. Like the stage magician, watch what the other hand is doing.
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10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
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How is your time?
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10-29-2011, 12:52 PM
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10-29-2011, 01:51 PM
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For years Vernell Electronics has used the term "Forward Gauss" to describe their locators. I admit I never understood what it actually meant, but I do now. Their top-of-the-line locator is called the Magnacast 5000 and that name also describes the technology. It is interesting the Magnalink has a similar name.
If you read the article on the second link I posted, you see that Morse code is a lot easier to send and receive than voice. This goes all the way back to Nathan Stubblefield at least. What this means is the filters are not all that necessary for locating work although the Magnacast seems to filter out 60Hz unless you are right on top of it. As for L-rods, the human body has it's own filter system. If you don't believe me, just look at how the pseudo-skeptics filter out the truth. I saw one article where they talked about metals singing their own frequency. That's what they talk about the harmonic induction discrimination. I hope somebody learned something here. As I posted on another forum, I doubt it and they will never admit it if they do. It's a pretty sad state here. I really sense things are getting worse on the psychological front. I've warned people about this--you will end up bitter and psychotic like those before you. I say some prayers for you.
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10-29-2011, 06:41 PM
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From what I can read in this thread, everyone seems to be reading everything that is printed on the page. So they see all the words before they make comments about things they read... ie: no filters. The only exception I can find is Mike(Mont)... Don't waste your time giving me a warning because I don't read your posts. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...30&postcount=1 I don't even read their posts 95% of the time. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=26 Errrr... Mike, it appears that you are not reading most of the words that are printed here. Are you only reading one in 20 words? How do you expect to understand what is being said? Wake up and smell the coffee. The truth is all around you. Are you filtering it out so you can preserve your dream world? This brings us to a more important question. What are you doing here? If you are not here to read what skeptical people have to say about your posts, then what? Are you teaching the dynamics of dowsing rod marketing? Do you expect this will help improve sales of your dowsing rods? Best wishes, J_P
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10-31-2011, 02:34 AM
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Here's another link to many items including ground radio. In 1795 Salva envisioned a communication system where the signal gave the receiving person a mild shock. I would say this is the early roots of Molecular Frequency Discriminators.
http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/nathan-s.htm
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