When Honesty and Truthness Hit Hard on Skepthic's Heads

[hung]

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different.

Check the truthness of the teller.
Perceive a dose of inocence. Not the naive inocence. The honest inocence.

I don't have the slightest doubt now the H3tec works. Don't even need to test one. I simply know.
There's a human gift which we all inherit called sense. Thank God many of us still can use it.

Finally, just check what impression this forum causes in an honest inocent outsider.
His opinion is worth a thousand skeptic refutals. Trully. Genuine. No plea.

For long, the skeptic policy of denial has become a cult. Like those of the worst sects, creeds.
It became dangerous for those who use it as this gets out of hand to the point of self denials.

I don't have hope this will reach all skeptics. Not even a few. But if by chance it reaches only one, then it will have been worth it. Because this one person still can think and meditate beyond the cult.

This is not a joke. This is serious. It's your life. The behavior you choose, will reflect on yourself, on your family, on your friends.
Think about it.
Good night.

http://forum.h3tec.com/post?id=4992120

[Jim]

Originally Posted by hung

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different.

Check the truthness of the teller.
Perceive a dose of inocence. Not the naive inocence. The honest inocence.

I don't have the slightest doubt now the H3tec works. Don't even need to test one. I simply know.
There's a human gift which we all inherit called sense. Thank God many of us still can use it.

Finally, just check what impression this forum causes in an honest inocent outsider.
His opinion is worth a thousand skeptic refutals. Trully. Genuine. No plea.

For long, the skeptic policy of denial has become a cult. Like those of the worst sects, creeds.
It became dangerous for those who use it as this gets out of hand to the point of self denials.

I don't have hope this will reach all skeptics. Not even a few. But if by chance it reaches only one, then it will have been worth it. Because this one person still can think and meditate beyond the cult.

This is not a joke. This is serious. It's your life. The behavior you choose, will reflect on yourself, on your family, on your friends.
Think about it.
Good night.

http://forum.h3tec.com/post?id=4992120

I took all of three seconds to think about it.

You are a frickin' idiot

[hung]

Originally Posted by Jim

I took all of three seconds to think about it.

You are a frickin' idiot

"Since there are a rather good number of operating H3's in the US and a few other countries...but most are in the US...... and if the H3 DIDN'T DO what H3tec says it will do....WHERE ARE ALL THE LAW SUITES BY ACTUAL CERTIFIED OWNERS AND USERS OF THE H3...?

Your challenge is this... find the law suites from actual and licensed H3 owners who have filed against H3 for selling a fraudulent device... with so many H3's out there... there must be one person that was willing to put pride aside and file against H3tec for selling a fraudulent device...

This challenge requires very little money from either one of us... just tell the public, on this forum, who and where the law suits came from..... and if any are found... who won them...what was the outcome of each one...


My friend, don't be upset. When reasoning leaves the humans, all that is left is mental imbalances.
You are loosing control. But understand that what you've been suffering from members over TNET was only caused by you and yourself alone. You have planted those seeds.

I posted above in different colors and bold so an individiual who requires a special care like you do can see it.



PS. Congratulations Mr. Administrator. You are the one who accuse TNET of being a 'zoo', don't you? Well, they don't allow any name callings.
Are you sure the zoo is really there? Eh?
And you dare to compare the TNET forum with this thing that you run here?

This is a confirmation of my first post above. The part that tells about the 'impression' an outsider has of this forum.

Nice job Mr. Administrator, 'biased' attitudes is a must here right?

[Jim]

Originally Posted by hung

"Since there are a rather good number of operating H3's in the US and a few other countries...but most are in the US...... and if the H3 DIDN'T DO what H3tec says it will do....WHERE ARE ALL THE LAW SUITES BY ACTUAL CERTIFIED OWNERS AND USERS OF THE H3...?

Your challenge is this... find the law suites from actual and licensed H3 owners who have filed against H3 for selling a fraudulent device... with so many H3's out there... there must be one person that was willing to put pride aside and file against H3tec for selling a fraudulent device...

This challenge requires very little money from either one of us... just tell the public, on this forum, who and where the law suits came from..... and if any are found... who won them...what was the outcome of each one...


My friend, don't be upset. When reasoning leaves the humans, all that is left is mental imbalances.
You are loosing control. But understand that what you've been suffering from members over TNET was only caused by you and yourself alone. You have planted those seeds.

I posted above in different colors and bold so an individiual who requires a special care like you do can see it.



PS. Congratulations Mr. Administrator. You are the one who accuse TNET of being a 'zoo', don't you? Well, they don't allow any name callings.
Are you sure the zoo is really there? Eh?
And you dare to compare the TNET forum with this thing that you run here?

This is a confirmation of my first post above. The part that tells about the 'impression' an outsider has of this forum.

Nice job Mr. Administrator, 'biased' attitudes is a must here right?

This post only confirms my original post.

You are a frickin' idiot.

[gibon]

Originally Posted by Jim

This post only confirms my original post.

You are a frickin' idiot.

Skeptics are allowed the threat other member of "IDIOT" and other have just the right to shut up.

That is not JUSTICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not fair play dear administrator.

Gibon

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by gibon

Skeptics are allowed the threat other member of "IDIOT" and other have just the right to shut up.

That is not JUSTICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not fair play dear administrator.

Gibon

The forum rules apply to everyone, but it usually takes one person to cross the line. Normally it's a succession of rants or personal attacks such as the one's from Hung, not an isolated post. Anyway, it was only a warning. So far everything (including the insults) remain.
Just keep it civil, and at least as polite as the House of Commons.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by gibon

Skeptics are allowed the threat other member of "IDIOT" and other have just the right to shut up.

This is only an technical abbreviation for new H3Tec compilation named: "Interplanetary Dovsing Imaginery of Oldtimers Treasuring".

[hung]

Originally Posted by gibon

Skeptics are allowed the threat other member of "IDIOT" and other have just the right to shut up.

That is not JUSTICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not fair play dear administrator.

Gibon

Gibon,
Since the departure of Esteban and my own absence from discussing LRL here, this forum is 'at leeway'.
It became a trench for Carl's followers to refute everything from the LRL comunity.
Don't ever expect to have a balanced discussion about those matters here.
The usual members who I don't need to mention who they are, simply post here less and less often.
I this situation remains, this place is faded to disappear I think. But certainly what it used to be is a lot, lot different than it is now.

If you want to discuss locating with your Lrod, and other similar subjects, I suggest you join the TNET forum.
There, despite annoying skeptics also inhabit, many LRL and L rod users still can share experiences and impressions, unlike here where the AntiLRL AlQaeda rules.

TNET is much bigger than Geotech in terms of members and has much more visibility.
See you there my friend.
Regards.

[hung]

As reading autism is a common pathologycal problem here I will also put this in bold so that you don't miss it this time, Mr. Administrator.

Originally Posted by hung

PS. Congratulations Mr. Administrator. You are the one who accuse TNET of being a 'zoo', don't you? Well, they don't allow any name callings.
Are you sure the zoo is really there? Eh?
And you dare to compare the TNET forum with this thing that you run here?

This is a confirmation of my first post above. The part that tells about the 'impression' an outsider has of this forum.

Nice job Mr. Administrator, 'biased' attitudes is a must here right?

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

As reading autism is a common pathologycal problem here I will also put this in bold so that you don't miss it this time, Mr. Administrator.

So I see. Except that it's "pathological", not "pathologycal". Has Art borrowed your spelling checker and not returned it?

Presumably you completely missed my previous post -> http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showp...13&postcount=8

[hung]

Allowed? Ok then.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Are you sure the zoo is really there? Eh?

The "zoo", as I called it, refers to the LRL Forum on TNET, not the TNET site itself.
I'm sure the Administrator there has the same opinion. You only have to read his warning:
"Long Range Locators
PLEASE NOTE: As the administrator, creator and owner of this site, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE GET RIPPED OFF (defrauded) by people selling so-called "long range locators" (devices, that supposedly, can find precious metals at a distance). I HIGHLY recommend consulting a geophysicist ($100 in consulting fees could save you thousands, and you'll learn something!), before spending ONE DIME ON ANY "long range locator" . With that, I open this forum to the discussion of said devices.".

If you have any problems understanding this statement from the TNET Administrator, then please let us know and we will explain it to you.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by hung

[SIZE=2][COLOR=Red]"Since there are a rather good number of operating H3's in the US and a few other countries...but most are in the US...... and if the H3 DIDN'T DO what H3tec says it will do....WHERE ARE ALL THE LAW SUITES BY ACTUAL CERTIFIED OWNERS AND USERS OF THE H3...?

Your challenge is this... find the law suites from actual and licensed H3 owners who have filed against H3 for selling a fraudulent device... with so many H3's out there... there must be one person that was willing to put pride aside and file against H3tec for selling a fraudulent device...

Hung,

Have a heart, Christmas is approaching and we are very busy with preparations. Tell you what, since there have been so many units sold, assuming your claim is correct (that the device works), make it easy on us.

Since there must be so many satisfied customers compared to dissatisfied ones, why don't you find say .... five H3Tec users (not dealers or H3Tec employees) that have actually found gold or silver, in measurable quantity with the instrument, that are willing to come forward and relate their experience and share their evidence?

[Saturna]

Originally Posted by hung
WHERE ARE ALL THE LAW SUITS BY ACTUAL CERTIFIED OWNERS AND USERS OF THE H3...?

Your challenge is this... find the law suits from actual and licensed H3 owners who have filed against H3 for selling a fraudulent device... with so many H3's out there... there must be one person that was willing to put pride aside and file against H3tec for selling a fraudulent device...

There are no lawsuits for the same reason that religious books sell, but no one can prove they what the books espouse is true, yet the believers believe despite not receiving tangible results.

LRL/Dowsing is just another religion for some to believe in where the only criteria is faith - not results.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Saturna

There are no lawsuits for the same reason that religious books sell, but no one can prove they what the books espouse is true, yet the believers believe despite not receiving tangible results.

LRL/Dowsing is just another religion for some to believe in where the only criteria is faith - not results.

To quote Dan Hughes: "You don't argue with True Believers, be it in politics, religion, or pseudoscience. You just try to save the uninformed from being sucked into the vortex."

That's why we're here.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by hung

Check the truthness of the teller.

http://forum.h3tec.com/post?id=4992120

Truthness of the teller? From H3Tec?

In the kilometers circle around H3Tec that reaches their NMR sensitive dowsing rods there are no truth. Only never-ending scam.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by hung

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different.

Check the truthness of the teller.
Perceive a dose of inocence. Not the naive inocence. The honest inocence.

I don't have the slightest doubt now the H3tec works. Don't even need to test one. I simply know.
There's a human gift which we all inherit called sense. Thank God many of us still can use it.

Finally, just check what impression this forum causes in an honest inocent outsider.
His opinion is worth a thousand skeptic refutals. Trully. Genuine. No plea.

For long, the skeptic policy of denial has become a cult. Like those of the worst sects, creeds.
It became dangerous for those who use it as this gets out of hand to the point of self denials.

I don't have hope this will reach all skeptics. Not even a few. But if by chance it reaches only one, then it will have been worth it. Because this one person still can think and meditate beyond the cult.

This is not a joke. This is serious. It's your life. The behavior you choose, will reflect on yourself, on your family, on your friends.
Think about it.
Good night.

http://forum.h3tec.com/post?id=4992120

"I don't have the slightest doubt now the H3tec works. Don't even need to test one. I simply know".
This is truthfulness? The reader already knows the outcome of the test before he performs it? It sounds like prejudice to me.

Perhaps the person was truthful in admitting his prejudice?
So we should consider it is not a joke to be prejudiced, and to consider prejudice is our life?

I suppose not everyone needs to choose this behavior.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by hung

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different.

Check the truthness of the teller.
Perceive a dose of inocence. Not the naive inocence. The honest inocence.

I don't have the slightest doubt now the H3tec works. Don't even need to test one. I simply know.
There's a human gift which we all inherit called sense. Thank God many of us still can use it.

Finally, just check what impression this forum causes in an honest inocent outsider.
His opinion is worth a thousand skeptic refutals. Trully. Genuine. No plea.

For long, the skeptic policy of denial has become a cult. Like those of the worst sects, creeds.
It became dangerous for those who use it as this gets out of hand to the point of self denials.

I don't have hope this will reach all skeptics. Not even a few. But if by chance it reaches only one, then it will have been worth it. Because this one person still can think and meditate beyond the cult.

This is not a joke. This is serious. It's your life. The behavior you choose, will reflect on yourself, on your family, on your friends.
Think about it.
Good night.

http://forum.h3tec.com/post?id=4992120

My dowsing detection meter has been set off after reading such a moving piece.

[Saturna]

Originally Posted by hung

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It became dangerous for those who use it as this gets out of hand to the point of self denials.

Hung, if one looks in a dictionary under 'self-denial', they will find a full color center spread with your picture on it.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different.

Check the truthness of the teller.
Perceive a dose of inocence. Not the naive inocence. The honest inocence.

I don't have the slightest doubt now the H3tec works. Don't even need to test one. I simply know.
There's a human gift which we all inherit called sense. Thank God many of us still can use it.

Finally, just check what impression this forum causes in an honest inocent outsider.
His opinion is worth a thousand skeptic refutals. Trully. Genuine. No plea.

For long, the skeptic policy of denial has become a cult. Like those of the worst sects, creeds.
It became dangerous for those who use it as this gets out of hand to the point of self denials.

I don't have hope this will reach all skeptics. Not even a few. But if by chance it reaches only one, then it will have been worth it. Because this one person still can think and meditate beyond the cult.

This is not a joke. This is serious. It's your life. The behavior you choose, will reflect on yourself, on your family, on your friends.
Think about it.
Good night.

http://forum.h3tec.com/post?id=4992120

Where do I even start with this nonsense?

1. The writer (Jeff Haslett) states "I have next to no knowledge of what "dowsing" is, and what I learned was from an enthusiastic but uninformed source".
So how can Jeff have an opinion if he has "next to no knowledge" of dowsing, and his source is uninformed?
Anyway, let's continue ...

2. He then states "The Geotechies seemed to have a lot of different opinions of what "dowsing" is, but no one was willing to offer a real definition".
Well this is complete garbage. Try reading this for a start -> http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...o/question.dat

3. "I always thought that dowsing involved an attractive force of some sort, like magnetism ...".
Obviously the writer is still in speculation mode, is severly technically challenged, and has not the faintest idea what he's talking about. Oh, I forgot, he already said that: "I have next to no knowledge of what "dowsing" is".

4. "If I wanted to scam a gullible person, the first thing I would do is make something look like something it wasn't".
Isn't that exactly what H3Tec are doing with their so-called patent?

5. "At least one Geotechie figured that since I declined the offer to attend a treasure hunt for financial reasons (and another not mentioned by him), that my H3 must not work!".
If you haven't figured it yet, the writer (Jeff Haslett) is a rep for H3Tec. So Hung's comment: "It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different." shows what a limited and prejudiced view Hung has of this subject. Jeff Haslett is one of the people to whom Carl offered his $25,000 challenge.

How's that for debunkering?

P.S. By the way (and this is just a suspicion) is JudyH actually Judy Haslett?

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

P.S. By the way (and this is just a suspicion) is JudyH actually Judy Haslett?

Negative. JudyH has never held/used a LRL.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by hung

Just found this in the H3tec's forum.
It could be just another post from a LRL proponent, but this one is different.

Check the truthness of the teller.
Perceive a dose of inocence. Not the naive inocence. The honest inocence.

Hopefully you have now had a chance to read and inwardly digest the information I posted earlier. In future please try to do your homework more thoroughly before posting on Geotech, and don't make rash statements before checking the facts.

The writer (Jeff Haslett) is a dealer for H3Tec, not an innocent honest bystander. Your naivety is only preceded by your ignorance.

[Jim]

'hung' was very quick to post BS created by the Filipino con-men, and then followed that up with another lie about getting an email from them confirming their BS post.

Cry little 'hung'......cry like the baby you are. You get what you give, eh?

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

Hopefully you have now had a chance to read and inwardly digest the information I posted earlier. In future please try to do your homework more thoroughly before posting on Geotech, and don't make rash statements before checking the facts.

The writer (Jeff Haslett) is a dealer for H3Tec, not an innocent honest bystander. Your naivety is only preceded by your ignorance.

Could have guessed that little fact... Is Hung really that ignorant, or is he on the "take" from H3Tec, like Art is with R-T?

[Qiaozhi]

This video may help to understand the psychology of Hung and his self-deluded buddies ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfYNT...eature=related

Try not to laugh too much.
Unfortunately I failed and nearly soiled myself.