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Old 06-22-2009, 05:15 PM
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I use different spiral coils, but many turns is a problem, but sensibility is better. I'll try copper spiral pipe uses in refrigeration (14 cm diameter)!
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Old 06-22-2009, 06:26 PM
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I use different spiral coils, but many turns is a problem, but sensibility is better. I'll try copper spiral pipe uses in refrigeration (14 cm diameter)!
And you used fine sand/powder ...to make that turns without damaging the pipe I think...

Now... to be polite... what the hell is that ?

A spiral coil! And so ?

Here's another made of copper... but maybe more useful and ionising too...!

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Old 06-22-2009, 07:18 PM
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I got it!

This is always the same principle: to receive the widest possible RF , aparently beginning at low frequency , rectify it and detect anomaly in ts relative strenght.
If there is some absorbtion or reflection of RF, the more wide band the more it will auto-cancel specific anomalies (frequency, o man-made interferences) that are not due to ground conductivity.

Do a search to "spiral antenna"
and why not, "double ridged horn"
they are both relatively directional.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:36 PM
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Hi Esteban,
I need to fix this one,but its military grade.
Only works for LRL ammunition?
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Old 06-23-2009, 02:20 AM
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I use different spiral coils, but many turns is a problem, but sensibility is better. I'll try copper spiral pipe uses in refrigeration (14 cm diameter)!
Hello Esteban

Why you need to try so many diferent coils and antennas in your LRL devices,are you not satisfied yet with results ?
For me its enough 15-80m for a treasure,otherwise i supose its dificult to andle LRL device who can locate gold objects many Kms distance,imagine how big will be interferences...


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Old 06-23-2009, 02:25 AM
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Hello Esteban

Why you need to try so many diferent coils and antennas in your LRL devices,are you not satisfied yet with results ?
For me its enough 15-80m for a treasure,otherwise i supose its dificult to andle LRL device who can locate gold objects many Kms distance,imagine how big will be interferences...


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I use spiral with many turns, but is more "pretty" for interference. But need to find intermediate point and selective too.

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Old 06-23-2009, 02:45 AM
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I use spiral with many turns, but is more "pretty" for interference. But need to find intermediate point and selective too.

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Esteban,this Pistoldetektor your cousin Alonso have made works very good,even in mineralized soil,anyway we should consider a few modifications i have made in this device who make it more sensitive to GOLD...
I have a few Mineoro LRL detectors,i realy find them a crap,but PD will make history

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Old 06-23-2009, 02:59 AM
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I use spiral with many turns, but is more "pretty" for interference. But need to find intermediate point and selective too.

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I´m only waiting one of this forum E.E skeptics come here to see PD as LRL,demonstrate interest for this obvious LRL device and then lets talk about MASS PRODUCTION, you and Alonso will be in front of this production,its not my intention to get to me Alonso merits(he is the inventor) but also i want one part of this production .
As Michael said,ITS THE MOST VERSATIL WORKABLE LRL,many TH´s are waiting for this device...
In my opinion the PD should come to the TH world,for people see LRL reality,sory to tell you but MINEORO is a little more than fantasy,i think completly useless for small gold objects,but PD works for both
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The PD is good for close and small objects. Good for beach and small relics prospecting. It does not have long range capability and also has problems for intense fields pinpointing. For an upgrade, the amplifier stage would have to be redesigned along with the choice of a better sensor/antenna system other than ordinary ferrite. It was clearly built for small and close targets.

For this type of detector (electrostatic/long time buried gold sensors), I will say it again. Mineoro's latest model, Tyon is the best so far. The IR Leds do a great job in long range and precise detection for gold, although sometimes (not so often) bronze or deteriorated silver might be picked. It's not perfect of course as there's no perfect electronic device on earth.

Ask Alonso about the Tyon. He will tell you.
Soon I expect to test the Tyon against OKM Bionic 01, since they both share the same aproach. The OKM unit surpassed the FG80 in terms of range recently in an expedition conducted by a friend. They recovered medium sized gold.
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Soon I expect to test the Tyon against OKM Bionic 01, since they both share the same aproach. The OKM unit surpassed the FG80 in terms of range recently in an expedition conducted by a friend. They recovered medium sized gold.
Well you cannot argue with that!

"Gold" is only found once ... when they are first sold to the unsuspecting buyer.
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:34 AM
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The PD is good for close and small objects. Good for beach and small relics prospecting. It does not have long range capability and also has problems for intense fields pinpointing. For an upgrade, the amplifier stage would have to be redesigned along with the choice of a better sensor/antenna system other than ordinary ferrite. It was clearly built for small and close targets.

For this type of detector (electrostatic/long time buried gold sensors), I will say it again. Mineoro's latest model, Tyon is the best so far. The IR Leds do a great job in long range and precise detection for gold, although sometimes (not so often) bronze or deteriorated silver might be picked. It's not perfect of course as there's no perfect electronic device on earth.

Ask Alonso about the Tyon. He will tell you.
Soon I expect to test the Tyon against OKM Bionic 01, since they both share the same aproach. The OKM unit surpassed the FG80 in terms of range recently in an expedition conducted by a friend. They recovered medium sized gold.
Hello Hung

First of all,not forget that i have one Mineoro model with Infra Red (the DC2008 IR) .
Also i have a few boxes full with object foud with Pistoldetector and with Mineoro i have empty dreams and boxes ,of course Mineoro works as LRL,but results ar only for big treasures not single objects.

PS: Pistoldetektor is realy wath TH´s are looking for,about Mineoro is more for DREAMERS and people with LUCKY
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I´m only waiting one of this forum E.E skeptics come here to see PD as LRL,demonstrate interest for this obvious LRL device and then lets talk about MASS PRODUCTION, you and Alonso will be in front of this production,its not my intention to get to me Alonso merits(he is the inventor) but also i want one part of this production .
As Michael said,ITS THE MOST VERSATIL WORKABLE LRL,many TH´s are waiting for this device...
In my opinion the PD should come to the TH world,for people see LRL reality,sory to tell you but MINEORO is a little more than fantasy,i think completly useless for small gold objects,but PD works for both

Hi Morgan
I asked you about Portugal on RS forum, but you did not answer me. Maybe you did not see my message.
I attach it here again.

""Hi Morgan.
Will you stay all the August to Portugal.
I am interesting for tickets and maybe to be cheaper if i will close them from now""


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I asked you about Portugal on RS forum, but you did not answer me. Maybe you did not see my message.
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""Hi Morgan.
Will you stay all the August to Portugal.
I am interesting for tickets and maybe to be cheaper if i will close them from now""


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Hi Geo

Sorry,i did not see the message before.
Of course you can come to visit me,i´m here all the time,only travel to Germany in October.

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I´m only waiting one of this forum E.E skeptics come here to see PD as LRL,demonstrate interest for this obvious LRL device and then lets talk about MASS PRODUCTION, you and Alonso will be in front of this production,its not my intention to get to me Alonso merits(he is the inventor) but also i want one part of this production .
As Michael said,ITS THE MOST VERSATIL WORKABLE LRL,many TH´s are waiting for this device...
In my opinion the PD should come to the TH world,for people see LRL reality,sory to tell you but MINEORO is a little more than fantasy,i think completly useless for small gold objects,but PD works for both
Hi Morgan,
As soon as you make succesfull double blind test you will have all you need
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