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Old 06-17-2009, 12:48 AM
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this semms cool, hi stebane my friend, can you send here or to me mp, these in the transistor version? and any tips on aproach posibilites for study aplications
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:57 AM
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this semms cool, hi stebane my friend, can you send here or to me mp, these in the transistor version? and any tips on aproach posibilites for study aplications
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This is the only version I have. Will send you complete info, but with tubes!

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mr stebane, if you like, yes, i accept, send me please for i study, thanks
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mr stebane, if you like, yes, i accept, send me please for i study, thanks
Soon. This is 10 pages in gif.

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I think can be useful for some thinks...
and this is another fairy-tale scenario:

how the hell the target (usually buried in soil) is supposed to be in the middle of coils ???

What new science-fiction is this ?

You first dug the target... then put it in the middle of coils and perform magnetic-resonance!?

Is that remote sensing for you ?

I think the sun hit very strong at your place...

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Dman, Hung, Michael and Jimmy, info was sent.
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Don't know why... but had no dubts on Hung's interest in such a thing...

I'm sure he will debunker also this circuit...

I'm still awaiting for debunkering process... but seems it stalled somehow...
or well... never started!

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This is interesting, I'd like to see a transistor version. I see Robert is back on the Forum incognito.

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This is interesting, I'd like to see a transistor version. I see Robert is back on the Forum incognito.

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This is interesting, I'd like to see a transistor version. I see Robert is back on the Forum incognito.

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Hi,
I'm not Robert...

but maybe we need his return here!

Just to square the circle....of LRL !

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Dman, Hung, Michael and Jimmy, info was sent.
Hi all and especially you; Esteban.
Thank you man for your concern and regard. I received them and really appreciate your favors.
But question; Can this device be useful for THing? e.g. more than PD? I know and am sure PD works as a LRL for a real treasure, how is this in comparison with PD? does it have any advantage?
have you ever made and tested it?
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Hi all and especially you; Esteban.
Thank you man for your concern and regard. I received them and really appreciate your favors.
But question; Can this device be useful for THing? e.g. more than PD? I know and am sure PD works as a LRL for a real treasure, how is this in comparison with PD? does it have any advantage?
have you ever made and tested it?
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you know PD works ?

Did you find anything with it... or it's just that you think it works but found nothing, actually ?

Have you performed a double-blind test with PD ?

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you know PD works ?

Did you find anything with it... or it's just that you think it works but found nothing, actually ?

Have you performed a double-blind test with PD ?

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Hi, Yes Max, I'm sure and sure more than what you can imagine.
you point to double blind test, OK, test for what? a fresh buried target? no, this is not the case.
we are talking about treasure, OK? and here in our scope we regard a treasure as a big and very old buried precious metal.
it's entirely different than a fresh small piece buried.
for 3 located points of big treasure here (with our unique PI; MDL) I checked all locations with PD.
I set PD hundreds meters away the locations when reached near them, got clear signal that made it beep crazily.
yes it works, but depends on what you expect; find a lost gold earring, ring, coin,.... or no find a real treasure, yes, a real treasure; trove,..... these behave in another manner.
of course I have previously put some parts of my personal experiences in forum and seems you were ignorant about them
one here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15242 # 10 & 14 and other posts which I don't remember now.
again repeat ; PD is good for monitoring an area and find hot places, but pinpointing is impossible with it especially for big deep treasures.
if you want, can laugh, is up to you.
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Dman, Hung, Michael and Jimmy, info was sent.
Thanks friend. You trully are a gentleman.
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Thanks friend. You trully are a gentleman.
You guys understand one each other... the LRL-tribe... chapter-2!

So what ?

Have you a new modified RT-flask to show here ???

Or wanna make debunkering now ???

Still awaiting for the dang debunkering!

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I think can be useful for some thinks...
Interesting.
No relation with MD or LRL or PD , but cool .
Here more info:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...e-spectrometer
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~derose/labs/exp5.html

Some could put their head inside and try to find anomalies...
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Interesting.
No relation with MD or LRL or PD , but cool .
Here more info:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...e-spectrometer
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~derose/labs/exp5.html

Some could put their head inside and try to find anomalies...
Of course, apparently no relation with PD... but you're sure?
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Of course, apparently no relation with PD... but you're sure?
Hi Esteban,
Yes, I am sure.
If you read the articles, they are talking about the methods of measuring the spectrum of nuclear magnetic resonance for different samples placed inside a testing machine. The testing machine will not work without building it to some very close tolerances:
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The magnet has been modified and adjusted to produce a highly homogeneous magnetic field over a relatively large volume (~1.5 cm^3) at the center of the gap. This has required using high-purity low-remanence iron for the pole-pieces, and finishing the faces flat to optical tolerances (~1-2 wavelengths). The pole-pieces have not been rigidly attached to the main magnet H-frame, realistic machining tolerances making this impractical. Instead a Neoprene rubber (0.8 mm) spacer has been inserted between each pole-piece and the frame. Careful adjustment of the three fixing screws for each pole-piece varies the compression of the Neoprene so that the pole faces may be adjusted to be precisely parallel, thus maximizing the volume of best field homogeneity. A field homogeneity better than 1 part in 10,000 over a volume of ~2 cm^3 has been achieved.

A sample coil is mounted centrally in the gap of the magnet. A short length of NON-MAGNETIC low-capacity coaxial cable is used for connection to the electronics chassis.
The sample to be tested is inserted between the pole pieces of an electromagnet that has been adjusted by three setscrews to produce an extremely homogenous field in a space of 2 cubic centimeters where the sample is placed.

When reading the text, it became very apparent that this equipment has no bearing on using an antique IB metal detector to find buried treasure, or using a passive ferrite coil with an attached RF detector circuit to locate buried treasure. The articles describe a method to measure the nuclear magnetic resonance of samples placed in a testing machine, not methods to locate hidden samples at long range with receiver coils. And the principle of operation is not related either, as it requires extremely high precision machining as well as adjusting physical dimensions to optical tolerances (1-2 wavelengths) in order to produce a extremely homogeneous magnetic field (better than part 1 in 10,000). Then it requires inserting a sample into this high-precision 2cc field to exhibit precession data when the field is removed.

Do you think any of this is related to the PD?

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Hi Esteban,
Yes, I am sure.
If you read the articles, they are talking about the methods of measuring the spectrum of nuclear magnetic resonance for different samples placed inside a testing machine. The testing machine will not work without building it to some very close tolerances:
The sample to be tested is inserted between the pole pieces of an electromagnet that has been adjusted by three setscrews to produce an extremely homogenous field in a space of 2 cubic centimeters where the sample is placed.

When reading the text, it became very apparent that this equipment has no bearing on using an antique IB metal detector to find buried treasure, or using a passive ferrite coil with an attached RF detector circuit to locate buried treasure. The articles describe a method to measure the nuclear magnetic resonance of samples placed in a testing machine, not methods to locate hidden samples at long range with receiver coils. And the principle of operation is not related either, as it requires extremely high precision machining as well as adjusting physical dimensions to optical tolerances (1-2 wavelengths) in order to produce a extremely homogeneous magnetic field (better than part 1 in 10,000). Then it requires inserting a sample into this high-precision 2cc field to exhibit precession data when the field is removed.

Do you think any of this is related to the PD?

Best wishes,
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For example, the MFD by Andy Flind is not for to locate treasure, OK? But with a loop and other few, this do very well, and also demonstrates that this old treasures has a strong energy causes that more one led of bargraph lights!

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For example, the MFD by Andy Flind is not for to locate treasure, OK? But with a loop and other few, this do very well, and also demonstrates that this old treasures has a strong energy causes that more one led of bargraph lights!

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Hi,
you say that this project of Andy Flind modified works as LRL... and nobody else.

But you put that claim (as with others) and then gave no explaination, no modification plans, no testing procedure, nothing...

just claims. As Dell. As Hung. As any other LRL-fanatic but with add of pepper...

same stuff... but you also add some stamp-sized schematics... that's the difference!

That, of course, change totally my point of view about your claims...

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When reading the text, it became very apparent that this equipment has no bearing on using an antique IB metal detector to find buried treasure, or using a passive ferrite coil with an attached RF detector circuit to locate buried treasure. The articles describe a method to measure the nuclear magnetic resonance of samples placed in a testing machine, not methods to locate hidden samples at long range with receiver coils. And the principle of operation is not related either, as it requires extremely high precision machining as well as adjusting physical dimensions to optical tolerances (1-2 wavelengths) in order to produce a extremely homogeneous magnetic field (better than part 1 in 10,000). Then it requires inserting a sample into this high-precision 2cc field to exhibit precession data when the field is removed.

Do you think any of this is related to the PD?
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For example, the MFD by Andy Flind is not for to locate treasure, OK? But with a loop and other few, this do very well, and also demonstrates that this old treasures has a strong energy causes that more one led of bargraph lights!
Hi Esteban,
I am not sure I understand you. Are you saying Andy's MFD modified with a loop and "other few" to demonstrate buried treasure causing bar graph LEDs to light is related to a laboratory test instrument measuring the precession of protons of a sample placed in an extremely homogeneous magnetic field?

I thought you were originally saying the PD is related to the nuclear magnetic resonance spectrum measuring instrument which uses the proton precession method to collect data on samples that are inserted. It is hard for me to imagine that Andy's MFD modified, or the PD are related to this laboratory instrument.
Are they?

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