REAL LRL ???!!!

[vistac2000]

Hi to all friends,

I see and read some LRL posts in this site ...
but I have one question...!!!
Is LRL really works?

If YES please put a good working circuit of LRL ...

Thanks...
best regrads.... vistac2000

[Geo]

Originally Posted by vistac2000

Hi to all friends,

I see and read some LRL posts in this site ...
but I have one question...!!!
Is LRL really works?

If YES please put a good working circuit of LRL ...

Thanks...
best regrads.... vistac2000

Hi.
It is not so easy to find a good and practical schematic
Regards

[detectoman]

the lrl are top secret, due to sceptics and chinesse and other comercalizacion, any like to show public you key for put out the gold
you should read inside lines of the treads
but whit your effort can you understand the basic principes
any body true lrlst look to show easy public the product of these own efforce
in the group exist all necesary for the mind dilligent to introduce in this increible field
all came of results of the personal iniciatives, experiments tryes, only bsbs jjaja
find in the lot of tips of group the begin of your dream
is not difficult
best whises

[detectoman]

begin for the simple personal experimentation ionic, zahory or bfio., hibrid, etc lrl work!
little range ( on superficie ) medium range @ 10 mts long range 200 mts

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by detectoman

the lrl are top secret.....

Yes, the LRL are top secret, and for nearly the same reasons as the Philadelphia Experiment is top secret.

What went on during the Philadelphia Experiment must never fall into the hands of the common people. The same is true for revealing the inner workings of actual LRL instruments. Imagine if these top secret LRL schematics were ever to fall into the knowledge base of the common people. Just imagine....

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by vistac2000

I see and read some LRL posts in this site ...
but I have one question...!!!
Is LRL really works?

If YES please put a good working circuit of LRL

Hi vistac2000,
I have never seen an LRL work, and I do not believe they work. But some people believe they work.
You can read here for a circuit to build an LRL that some people say works:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ghlight=zahori

Best wishes,
J_P

[zenit52]

Hi friends,
Did someone build a LRL and test it ?
Did LRL realy work???
please share your results...

with best regards... zenit52

[michael]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hi vistac2000,
I have never seen an LRL work, and I do not believe they work. But some people believe they work.
You can read here for a circuit to build an LRL that some people say works:
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...ghlight=zahori
Best wishes,
J_P

Hi.
Who has said that Zahori works for treasure finding?
It never can. I tested it and got nothing. It detects electrical lines, power lines as the best. you can even find hidden cables in wall and track it.
even can recognize if in a dark room is any electrical appliance in standby.
it especially detects high voltage lines even from 100 meters.
but about PD; it works for treasure finding, it really works.
I personally experienced this.
when you have not made complete tests at different conditions how can run decisive statements against that????
I can work with LRLs, but each one has it's advantages and disadvantages.
now the best usability of L- rods for me is to determine depth of target reliably but after finding treasure point with my MDL.
as MDL detection is most reliable and quick.
MDL is the best device for either LRLing or pinpointing, but its' disadvantages are: 1- big dimension of 2x2 m loop
and 2- it hits big targets at great depths as if are on surface.
anyway LRLs work but not as being advertised or we expect of a conventional detector. they are relative.
good luck.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi.
It is not so easy to find a good and practical schematic
Regards

Uhm... ok... but it's not easy cause nobody wanna post it... or just cause it's impossible make any LRL thing that works ?

Good practical schematic is what we need to demonstrate that LRL principles (whatever they are) are not just pure speculation: till now I never see anything similar here... no one single post about a working LRL, easy enough and complete to make some stupid test like detect a coin at a meter distance.... not just one!

SO... considering that here we have a huge number of working schematics of real devices, mds etc... and this is 1st place in the world for such kind of things... I don't understand why we don't have any "easy" testable schematic to work on...

I think it's a trick of mind... it beeps and you think it detected the target.... then you already are in a place RICH of good stuff (and you surely are when testing that things... dear Geo) and so you'll think it's the lrl/pistol or whatever that signals you the place where to dig... you recover something GOOD and think it works for real...

but I think are just coincidences... cause if I go in a RICH place and dig an hole I'll sure find something good... silver, copper, bronze or even gold stuff... no need of a beep beep to do that.

What I said is probably your case, cause I dubt you checked first your soil with conventional MDs (cause lrl fanatics told you don't cause that will "destroy" lrl signal!)

Kind regards,
Max

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Max

Uhm... ok... but it's not easy cause nobody wanna post it... or just cause it's impossible make any LRL thing that works ?

Good practical schematic is what we need to demonstrate that LRL principles (whatever they are) are not just pure speculation: till now I never see anything similar here... no one single post about a working LRL, easy enough and complete to make some stupid test like detect a coin at a meter distance.... not just one!

SO... considering that here we have a huge number of working schematics of real devices, mds etc... and this is 1st place in the world for such kind of things... I don't understand why we don't have any "easy" testable schematic to work on...

I think it's a trick of mind... it beeps and you think it detected the target.... then you already are in a place RICH of good stuff (and you surely are when testing that things... dear Geo) and so you'll think it's the lrl/pistol or whatever that signals you the place where to dig... you recover something GOOD and think it works for real...

but I think are just coincidences... cause if I go in a RICH place and dig an hole I'll sure find something good... silver, copper, bronze or even gold stuff... no need of a beep beep to do that.

What I said is probably your case, cause I dubt you checked first your soil with conventional MDs (cause lrl fanatics told you don't cause that will "destroy" lrl signal!)

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max. I will agree with you at the most things. I will try to write my experience with little words. I saw real LRLs, i worked with real LRLs but i did not find any treasure yet with LRL or with other metal detector.
The LRLs who i worked, i cant understand as electronic engineer how they work, at who principle. For example.... with Iconos i found 3 small items at the same place and i got a lot of times strong signal at archaiologic places but i can't dig. But last time at a mountain iconos did not gave me signal but other detectors gave signal for gold. I had another machine that had the ability to locate a door at 30m, metal pipes at 10 m but was so sensitive who was no practical to locate objects Last time i am working on a ferrite type LRL. Very very critical adjustments. One time i located a gold coin at 10m +++ , a inox object at 20m++ and a car speaker at 30m+ very easy. BUT the problem is that every time when i readjust it a little, it stop to work. Really i lost my sleep. Some times i believe that it dont work as a electronic device....
Really i dont know....... lrl exists but.... not so simple as a metal detector, maybe they need special conditions ... maybe....


Regards

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Max. I will agree with you at the most things. I will try to write my experience with little words. I saw real LRLs, i worked with real LRLs but i did not find any treasure yet with LRL or with other metal detector.
The LRLs who i worked, i cant understand as electronic engineer how they work, at who principle. For example.... with Iconos i found 3 small items at the same place and i got a lot of times strong signal at archaiologic places but i can't dig. But last time at a mountain iconos did not gave me signal but other detectors gave signal for gold. I had another machine that had the ability to locate a door at 30m, metal pipes at 10 m but was so sensitive who was no practical to locate objects Last time i am working on a ferrite type LRL. Very very critical adjustments. One time i located a gold coin at 10m +++ , a inox object at 20m++ and a car speaker at 30m+ very easy. BUT the problem is that every time when i readjust it a little, it stop to work. Really i lost my sleep. Some times i believe that it dont work as a electronic device....
Really i dont know....... lrl exists but.... not so simple as a metal detector, maybe they need special conditions ... maybe....


Regards

Yes,you are rigth,The Pistoldetektor only find small objects if you have the skill to put it in critical and limit adjustment,this is what i told many times here. You can see this when serch during the nigth,the Green LED stay more bright when you are near the electric field produced by buried metal,and if the pistol is in limit of sensitivity it catch weak electric fields produced by small objets,the target will produce the buzzer beeps,otherwise if not in limit you only will find very big targets. I´m talking about fractions of milimeter,when you turn the 100K Potentiometer. Actualy i´m using one multiturn POT. anyway its sometimes dificult,but the findings and the pleasure of using one working LRL compensate the hard work of calibration.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Yes,you are rigth,The Pistoldetektor only find small objects if you have the skill to put it in critical and limit adjustment,this is what i told many times here. You can see this when serch during the nigth,the Green LED stay more bright when you are near the electric field produced by buried metal,and if the pistol is in limit of sensitivity it catch weak electric fields produced by small objets,the target will produce the buzzer beeps,otherwise if not in limit you only will find very big targets. I´m talking about fractions of milimeter,when you turn the 100K Potentiometer. Actualy i´m using one multiturn POT. anyway its sometimes dificult,but the findings and the pleasure of using one working LRL compensate the hard work of calibration.

Hi Morgan
I don't speak about Pistol Detector but about another lrl very very powerfull but i cant do it to work anytime. I made it to work only 3 times with fantastic results.

Regards

[Max]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Yes,you are rigth,The Pistoldetektor only find small objects if you have the skill to put it in critical and limit adjustment,this is what i told many times here. You can see this when serch during the nigth,the Green LED stay more bright when you are near the electric field produced by buried metal,and if the pistol is in limit of sensitivity it catch weak electric fields produced by small objets,the target will produce the buzzer beeps,otherwise if not in limit you only will find very big targets. I´m talking about fractions of milimeter,when you turn the 100K Potentiometer. Actualy i´m using one multiturn POT. anyway its sometimes dificult,but the findings and the pleasure of using one working LRL compensate the hard work of calibration.

Hi Morgan,
what ? The green led stay brighter when you're more near instability.... so your PD works on the edge of instability at that point... but then ?

I don't understand why the presence of a buried something could alterate that brightness... but maybe I'm talking on something you don't know about.... really I have no idea of what you mean for special components for zahori there . Just confusing people here ???

So you're talking about a fake schematic posted by Esteban ??? The zahori works on electric fields like tv-sets etc but not gold or treasures!

Always the same story... the SPICE! I see! Like the 7th board inside the PD! Good !

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Originally Posted by Geo

Hi Max. I will agree with you at the most things. I will try to write my experience with little words. I saw real LRLs, i worked with real LRLs but i did not find any treasure yet with LRL or with other metal detector.
The LRLs who i worked, i cant understand as electronic engineer how they work, at who principle. For example.... with Iconos i found 3 small items at the same place and i got a lot of times strong signal at archaiologic places but i can't dig. But last time at a mountain iconos did not gave me signal but other detectors gave signal for gold. I had another machine that had the ability to locate a door at 30m, metal pipes at 10 m but was so sensitive who was no practical to locate objects Last time i am working on a ferrite type LRL. Very very critical adjustments. One time i located a gold coin at 10m +++ , a inox object at 20m++ and a car speaker at 30m+ very easy. BUT the problem is that every time when i readjust it a little, it stop to work. Really i lost my sleep. Some times i believe that it dont work as a electronic device....
Really i dont know....... lrl exists but.... not so simple as a metal detector, maybe they need special conditions ... maybe....


Regards

Hi Geo,
ok, but what's the principle of that ferrite circuit you made ?

Cause we know there's the e.g. goldgun that uses a balanced ferrite thing to (claimed) detect buried stuff....

But I don't understand... it's something balanced maybe ?

Kind regards,
Max

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi Geo,
ok, but what's the principle of that ferrite circuit you made ?

Cause we know there's the e.g. goldgun that uses a balanced ferrite thing to (claimed) detect buried stuff....

But I don't understand... it's something balanced maybe ?

Kind regards,
Max

Hi Max.
I made a clone from a machine (LRL made in England) that works fine only for gold. Detector is a VLF detector, and for head it has a ferrite with Rx and Tx coil on it. The only secret is the coil and the ferrite.
I say the truth. But where is the LRL operation principle???

Regards