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Old 12-06-2008, 03:09 AM
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Default signal from gold

Ok let start learning the signal from gold.
FIRST IS RF, IF NOT WHAT IS IT.
THE KEY IS TO DETECT AND SEE IT ON A SCOPE.
We have a Lecroy WaveExpert 100H scope and still no signal from our 999.9 1oz gold bar or our 1.3oz gold and quartz,14k ring STILL NO SIGNAL.
WHAT IS THE SIGNAL?
We must have a signal to detect it
THE KEY IS TO POST HOW TO DETECT THE SIGNAL AND ANYONE CAN ALSO DETECT IT.
WHAT TYPE OF SCOPE, PICKUP, ETC NEEDED TO PICK UP THIS SIGNAL.
I EVEN HAVE AN OLD TUBE 585A TEK SCOPE THAT IS STILL A KILLER SCOPE.
SO NOW WHAT IS THE SIGNAL.
ALL I WANT TO DO IS PICK UP THIS SIGNAL 1 INCH FROM THE GOLD SAMPLES WE HAVE.
Carl is doing this with his hammerhead lll and we can try to do the same.
first step is the signal.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:54 PM
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Gold receiver frequency maybe 59000Hz.

Metals frequency list:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1812
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Old 12-06-2008, 09:41 PM
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Gold receiver frequency maybe 59000Hz.

Metals frequency list:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1812
Bogus.
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Old 12-07-2008, 02:16 PM
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Bogus.
I don't know about this list and I don't made based in it. In particular I made oscillator 50+50 turns wire 0.15 mm in form 10.5 cm wich has best peak with correct capacitor and resonates at 59.5 Khz. I found gold with it and even gold plated buttons war times, century XIX. This not mean that gold resonates at 59...60 Khz, yes the peak in transmittion occurs at 59.5 Khz with the values in wire and capacitor.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:43 PM
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I don't know about this list and I don't made based in it. In particular I made oscillator 50+50 turns wire 0.15 mm in form 10.5 cm wich has best peak with correct capacitor and resonates at 59.5 Khz. I found gold with it and even gold plated buttons war times, century XIX. This not mean that gold resonates at 59...60 Khz, yes the peak in transmittion occurs at 59.5 Khz with the values in wire and capacitor.

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How far and what type of signal?
Esteban as you know I am working hard at this LRL stuff.
BUT AT THIS TIME NOT ONE WILL WORK FOR ME......SO I AM STARTING OVER TO LEARN. SO FAR CARL AND OTHER ARE PROVING RIGHT.
SO I AM LOOKING FOR PROOF.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:08 PM
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I don't know about this list and I don't made based in it. In particular I made oscillator 50+50 turns wire 0.15 mm in form 10.5 cm wich has best peak with correct capacitor and resonates at 59.5 Khz. I found gold with it and even gold plated buttons war times, century XIX. This not mean that gold resonates at 59...60 Khz, yes the peak in transmittion occurs at 59.5 Khz with the values in wire and capacitor.

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With 0.15 wire you have a low Q!! Maybe this is the reason that you located gold at 59500. If you put 0.30 or 0.40 wire and tune it at 59000 maybe it is better.
If you will find time try it at the place where it is the buried gold ring from the "child"
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:22 PM
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With 0.15 wire you have a low Q!! Maybe this is the reason that you located gold at 59500. If you put 0.30 or 0.40 wire and tune it at 59000 maybe it is better.
If you will find time try it at the place where it is the buried gold ring from the "child"
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This wire permits me use just low capacitor for small diameter. If I use .30 or .40, must made more big coil for to mantain low tune cap. Prefer small coil with 0.15 wire for small objects.

The child looses the ring playing. Today the child is not the child...

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Old 12-07-2008, 11:04 AM
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Gold receiver frequency maybe 59000Hz.

Metals frequency list:
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=292&i=1812
Can't pickup or detect this signal.

At this time we need proof or how to detect it.

Carl gave his input,why did he say the 59k is crap.

How do we detect this 59k or is Carl right and this is crap.

This is a start.
Anymore inputs on the signal type (am,fm,rf,if,optical and etc) and how to detect it.
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:47 AM
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METAL FREQUENCIES


This frequency list was researched by Dr. Toshihiko Yayama in Japan. He used the F-Scan with reagents and patients with known metal poisoning.

Frequencies have been rounded to the nearest 100 Hz. To test for metals, a DIRP is done from 30,000-60,000 Hz in 100 Hz steps. The mercury frequency has been confirmed by others. These frequencies are intended for research in detecting the presense of metals. They are not intended for use as treatment. Treatment should include chlorella and other materals as needed.

Arsenic 30400
Aluminum 31900
Beryllium 32700
Vanadium 32800
Titanium 35300
Thallium 36600
Palladium 37700
Lead 38000
Chromium VI 39200
Silver 43300
Mercury 43700
Magnesium 45300
Gallium 45400
Manganese 45700
Tungsten 47500
Lithium 47900
Indium 48300
Tantalum 48900
Rubidium 49200
Molybdenum 49800
Nickel 55200
Zinc 56200
Cobalt 56300
Iridium 57000
Cadmium 57300
Copper 58600
Gold 59000
Osmium 59200
Platinum 59300
Tin 59700

where's the Iron position ?
so , we build a 59000 hz BFO metal detector and it detect only gold nothing else metals , i think the PD is something similar
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Old 12-07-2008, 01:40 PM
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:37 PM
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Ok are you tellingus this is the pickup for gold at 59k.
Can you give step by step on using this to pick up the gold signal.
WE NEED 3 PEOPLE TO MAKE AND DETECT THIS SIGNAL.
I WILL TEST THIS PICKUP,now we are getting somewhere with this.
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