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Old 09-28-2008, 12:19 AM
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Morgan mentioned a PDK LRL. Can Morgan or someone tell what this is. I did a Google search and nothing.

A PDK clone = what is that?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 09-28-2008, 12:39 AM
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Morgan mentioned a PDK LRL. Can Morgan or someone tell what this is. I did a Google search and nothing.

A PDK clone = what is that?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks to all in advance.

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Hi

The PDK its a Long Range Locator,PD or PDK its the same PISTOLDETEKTOR.
Max and Fred & Qiaozhi,work a lot to reverse engeneering the 6 PCB circuits made by Alonso,but the result was frustrating becouse they made many errors in the new schematic,that if someone try to build one PDK this will not work...
I can put the list of errors found until now,maybe there are more...

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Old 09-28-2008, 08:33 AM
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The PDK its a Long Range Locator,PD or PDK its the same PISTOLDETEKTOR.
Max and Fred & Qiaozhi,work a lot to reverse engeneering the 6 PCB circuits made by Alonso,but the result was frustrating becouse they made many errors in the new schematic,that if someone try to build one PDK this will not work...
I can put the list of errors found until now,maybe there are more...

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Hi,
no you're wrong.

I don't wanna disclose everything here... cause some people don't like all details will be out... even if the stuff, really, don't work!

I respect their ideas and so will say just what's appropriate here.

The main part is a simple old style MD. The schematic for it is correct, no errors, and works perfectly. I've replicated it and tested myself... like others did also. Why I tell you the schematic is PERFECT !? I know it is, cannot tell you why I'm so sure... but Qiaozhi, Fred, Geo, JPlayer etc all are sure like I'm that this part have no mistake.

The problem is that has the very normal range of an MD, so just few cms over small stuff like coins, not meters or half meters like described.

Another part of the circuit is, instead, like a radio receiver, this unusual stuff found in PDK was declared providing long range abilities to the normal MD there... but actually, also replicated in all possible details, it doesn't provide any extra depth in detection... having no usefulness in all that thing apart draining a small current and adding more instability.

All the rest are claims that were never confirmed by "serious" members with real good intentions and understanding of electronics involved.

Or do you belive in Hung's (and yourself) claims... ???

Not to talk that you added a 7th faked board picture... with board over coil... that's not really fair thing after you filled the forums with claims there are just 6 boards inside PDK!

C'mon, the game is over.

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Old 09-28-2008, 06:52 PM
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Personally i agree with Max.
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:33 PM
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I have seen no real evidence that the PDK does anything different than what Max said. I hear only talk from people who claim it will find long range. If anyone has an exact replica of the Alonso pistol that will really find gold at 10 feet distance, then they can easily win the $25,000 prize money that Carl offers.

I have not seen this happen yet. What is the reason?

Are they still trying to protect the propriety of the Alonso design? Well guess what? We found out this design was copyrighted years ago by the Heathkit company when they designed the main circuit. -- So no problems here. Even if the circuits were proprietary, they do not have to be revealed in order to win the $25,000 prize.

So what other reason?
Are the owners of the working Alonso replicas finding so much valuable treasure that they don't have time to waste on some small $25,000 prize?


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Old 09-28-2008, 07:45 PM
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I have seen no real evidence that the PDK does anything different than what Max said. I hear only talk from people who claim it will find long range. If anyone has an exact replica of the Alonso pistol that will really find gold at 10 feet distance, then they can easily win the $25,000 prize money that Carl offers.

I have not seen this happen yet. What is the reason?

Are they still trying to protect the propriety of the Alonso design? Well guess what? We found out this design was copyrighted years ago by the Heathkit company when they designed the main circuit. -- So no problems here. Even if the circuits were proprietary, they do not have to be revealed in order to win the $25,000 prize.

So what other reason?
Are the owners of the working Alonso replicas finding so much valuable treasure that they don't have time to waste on some small $25,000 prize?


Best wishes,
J_P
Yes the $25,000 its realy very small price. I dont go to America for this little money,so wath happens when i win the price? Just think !!! I´m sure they dont let me return unless i give them the LRL device to copy. THIS IS THE REALITY ABOUT THE CHALLENGE !!!!! One true LRL who works for AMERICA
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Old 09-28-2008, 07:53 PM
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I have seen no real evidence that the PDK does anything different than what Max said. I hear only talk from people who claim it will find long range. If anyone has an exact replica of the Alonso pistol that will really find gold at 10 feet distance, then they can easily win the $25,000 prize money that Carl offers.

I have not seen this happen yet. What is the reason?

Are they still trying to protect the propriety of the Alonso design? Well guess what? We found out this design was copyrighted years ago by the Heathkit company when they designed the main circuit. -- So no problems here. Even if the circuits were proprietary, they do not have to be revealed in order to win the $25,000 prize.

So what other reason?
Are the owners of the working Alonso replicas finding so much valuable treasure that they don't have time to waste on some small $25,000 prize?


Best wishes,
J_P
Detection via pistol demmand some conditions imposed by nature, as target will be stay buried in soil for some years. So, the only possibility for to show his success is finding the items in the terrain. Also exist this problem: for to be detectable a coin at 1 meter depth and some meters (5-10), the target need stay buried intact (no movement of terrain, for example) for 100 years. The same item can be detectable at few centimeters buried 3 to 5 years, etc. Mineralization of soil also influences here (iron terrain).

In this theme is the nature "who write" the rules, no Carl, not you, no Sam Scaffieri, no everybody. But in the past Alonso was capable for to detect outside the soil at sight many meters... (no Heathkit here)
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Old 09-28-2008, 08:01 PM
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I have seen no real evidence that the PDK does anything different than what Max said. I hear only talk from people who claim it will find long range. If anyone has an exact replica of the Alonso pistol that will really find gold at 10 feet distance, then they can easily win the $25,000 prize money that Carl offers.

I have not seen this happen yet. What is the reason?

Are they still trying to protect the propriety of the Alonso design? Well guess what? We found out this design was copyrighted years ago by the Heathkit company when they designed the main circuit. -- So no problems here. Even if the circuits were proprietary, they do not have to be revealed in order to win the $25,000 prize.

So what other reason?
Are the owners of the working Alonso replicas finding so much valuable treasure that they don't have time to waste on some small $25,000 prize?


Best wishes,
J_P
This pistol is not commercial. Is the same case when you made replica of other detectors. But if you study very well detectors circuitry... not very extraterrestrial design you'll find.
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