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Old 06-05-2006, 12:17 PM
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Hi to everybody here. I am Iranian. today I found this site with google search (mineoro + forum) and joined.
About 2 months ago I wrote an e-mail for mineoro that was fundamentally hollow (3 BIG JAR FULL OF COINS).
I wrote it only to assay their reaction to excavating news by their devices.
except to some ordinary questions they didn't survey carefully about the report accuracy and at once put it in their site. if they thought a little would find out 3-big jar full of coins weighs much more than 3000 KG not 500 KG.
of course it indicates nothing against their production or if their devices work or not.
But they put every positive and no-documentary report in their site then other claims about founds are probably unreliable.
It was my partner plan to send such e-mail to mineoro then I apologize from all of you .
I wrote this under my conscience pressure.
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:46 PM
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Talking False news against youself

Hi guy. if suppose your claim be right, it changes nothing. you have done a joke against yourselves.
what have you tried to assay? mock yourselves?
anyway as you have mentioned; Can't conclude anything about mineoro. from my surveys(based on men I am 100% sure are independent; Dell Winders, talking to phone with one owner,...) these detectors work
but certainly old models had limitations that new models being claimed have not.( I am not sure)
I can only trust to nice men here like as Hung, Esteban ; wait for and rely on their results by the latest model.
anyway so many people are waiting for my judgment about their device and I am a little circumspect about my final judgment. I hope the latest model (FG80) be the same they claim. it will be the best for every treasure seeker. As you understand me, specially in Middle East.
By the way I know Iran somewhat. Where do you search predominantly in Iran? in which province?
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Old 06-06-2006, 02:50 AM
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EZ, I'm sorry, but I did not understand your point on your posting above.
The Mineoro's site shows your email sent to them and I believe with your permission. If it was you or your partner who gave the 500Kg information, then that's exactly how it was displayed there. No inventions, makeups or false information. It's the information you provided on your email.
Now you say you 'wrote this under pressure'??? What pressure?
I don't know what your point is.

Since we are in this subject and Michael quoted me, I have some little news from the weekend.
Alonso left Mineoro's factory late saturday back to Paraguay. As you know he and Damasio spent the whole week finishing touchs on the upcoming new automated FGs. Saturday morning Patricia and Paulinho (Mineoro) and a party of french people who were there, witnessed the recovery of a beautiful gold incrusted medalion found by the FG79 in the back premises of the factory.
It was 1.2 meters (4 feet) deep. Later one of the french found another gold jewelry close to the same spot. As I told before, the Mineoro test field in the past was a rodeo-like reunion party place. Late 19th century. The place is loaded with lots of lost jewelry from that era.
In my visit there last year I could see dozens of PVC marks on the ground to identify the spots which contain gold and were not recovered to serve as test targets.
But the items found and recovery mentioned above were new.
One interesting thing to note.
This time of year here is one of the baddest ocasion in terms of ionic fields intensity. I don't know what thses guys made to the new series of detectors that this is apparently not a problem anymore.
So I'm more than curious and excited to try one after so much time using the PDC 210.
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Old 06-06-2006, 03:36 AM
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I understand the area behind the factory is used extensively for testing and demonstrating the Mineoros to prospective customers. How is it that there is any gold left there at all, that has been missed in prior tests? I.e., why weren't these targets detected before.

I keep hearing that when they go out in that field, they detect and dig up one item. Then the next time, same thing... one item. Seems like with all the gold in that field, the device should be beeping all over the place. But it's always... one item. Hmmmmmm....
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:08 PM
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I understand the area behind the factory is used extensively for testing and demonstrating the Mineoros to prospective customers. How is it that there is any gold left there at all, that has been missed in prior tests? I.e., why weren't these targets detected before.

I keep hearing that when they go out in that field, they detect and dig up one item. Then the next time, same thing... one item. Seems like with all the gold in that field, the device should be beeping all over the place. But it's always... one item. Hmmmmmm....
The test field is actually used to TEST THE IONIC FIELDS. If they are good Damasio and troup head for the beach where there are around 30.000 items estimated. Many items lie two meters away form each other.
The PVC marks cover an area I believe about 50 X 160 feet. Only a small portion of field which includes a now built soccer field for factory employees.
So theoo marks represent only a small portin of what still is buried there.
They don't bother to mark any more spots.
In fact Damasio upon testing the new units, told me they detected targets where they did not know they existed. Sounds like he's talking about the soccer field area or something. Anyway, this for me is a clear indication that the detectors are more sensitive and less prone to ionic field variations.

When I was there last november, I was using my PDC and I got beeps outside the area the PVC marks were, but I could not get consistency upon tracing down the source because the ionic fields were terrible at that time.
Maybe because the french party was there he decided to dig a sample which was 4 foot deep. This is very unusual as they usually dig only items which are about 2 foot max, specially in the beach which would be totally awkard to dig a 4 foot hole near the shore with water keeping coming in all the time.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:07 AM
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The test field is actually used to TEST THE IONIC FIELDS. If they are good Damasio and troup head for the beach where there are around 30.000 items estimated.
Sounds like a person who owns a Mineoro could become very wealthy at that beach.
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:40 AM
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...Saturday morning Patricia and Paulinho (Mineoro) and a party of french people who were there, witnessed the recovery of a beautiful gold incrusted medalion found by the FG79 in the back premises of the factory.
It was 1.2 meters (4 feet) deep. Later one of the french found another gold jewelry close to the same spot...
Hi. it's good and delightful news.whenever you have these kind of news, please inform us immediately.
My friend! when exactly will we have your own results?
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:11 AM
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Saturday morning Patricia and Paulinho (Mineoro) and a party of french people who were there, witnessed the recovery of a beautiful gold incrusted medalion found by the FG79 in the back premises of the factory.
It was 1.2 meters (4 feet) deep. Later one of the french found another gold jewelry close to the same spot. As I told before, the Mineoro test field in the past was a rodeo-like reunion party place. Late 19th century. The place is loaded with lots of lost jewelry from that era.
It is very unusual to have late 19th century finds 1.2 meters deep. Do you really believe that flat fields (rodeo-like) raise 1 meter in height every 100 years? Or maybe you believe that gold travels towards center of the earth with rate of 1 cm per year?

It's very unlikely that jewelry was buryed in middle of party place at that time. Or maybe whole area was covered with 1 meter of earth for some unknown reason?

There is only one option left: Mineoro guys intentionaly buryied those golden finds to suprize their naive costumers.
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Old 06-06-2006, 11:14 AM
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Mineoro guys intentionaly buryied those golden finds to suprize their naive costumers.
I agree
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Old 06-06-2006, 01:26 PM
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It is very unusual to have late 19th century finds 1.2 meters deep. Do you really believe that flat fields (rodeo-like) raise 1 meter in height every 100 years? Or maybe you believe that gold travels towards center of the earth with rate of 1 cm per year?
I agree. 1.2 meters would be too deep for such a period of time.
Two things to consider. The medallion description passed to me sounds like older than a late 19th century item. It has details incrusted and a woman figure carefully designed. Sounds like it was made to a particular person.
Also the area was covered with earth during the years to settle the land level.
So it's one or the other. Either it's older and have nothing to do with the parties there or it's related and was found in an area which was covered for land level.

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It's very unlikely that jewelry was buryed in middle of party place at that time. Or maybe whole area was covered with 1 meter of earth for some unknown reason?
Yes. See above.

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There is only one option left: Mineoro guys intentionaly buryied those golden finds to suprize their naive costumers.
This is the same nonsense people usuall come up to explain things they doubt.
Besides being able to attest their honesty and since the detectors only detect items which is more than 10 years old buried, what's the point to wait all this time for this?

Again, this is not magic, scam or similar. It's a device which ionically detects gold buried. And now depending on conditions also gold in air (fresh gold).
The user must know how to use it and how to interpret the beep conditions found. It's not like a TV which your turn it on and expect the image to appear. You have to gain experience with the device and this obviously take time. It's a tool. A very valuable tool by the way.
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