Making a test area for pistol

[Esteban]

You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:

1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.

2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.

3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!

4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.

5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.

6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.

7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.

Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.

Regards

Esteban

[detectoman]

thanks esteban i have one big tape of gold of whatchman of train, of coper only chapead of gold and in other near field, one little jar of ceramic whit only 30 coins of coper, of years 50's, since one mes same two, whit add of direct salt of kitchen and water, what you think what time await i need for i can try?

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by detectoman

thanks esteban i have one big tape of gold of whatchman of train, of coper only chapead of gold and in other near field, one little jar of ceramic whit only 30 coins of coper, of years 50's, since one mes same two, whit add of direct salt of kitchen and water, what you think what time await i need for i can try?

Hola Detectoman

Como le digo, primero debe mojar las monedas con vinagre y remover bien, dejarlo por 2 dÃ*as. Luego, sacar el vinagre y ponerlo todo expuesto al sol por una semana o más hasta que todo se seque. Después haga un hoyo de 50 cm y ponga las monedas adentro con carbón vegetal y sal gruesa de cocina. Luego remoja todo con agua y lo entierra todo bien y marca el sitio con medio ladrillo. Es mejor que sean muchas monedas, como 150 a 200, solo de cobre y bronce, puede ser un poco de nÃ*quel. No debe haber hierro grande en la cercanÃ*a.

Creo que en 1 año o más ya puede haber "fenómeno".

Saludos

Esteban

[sweatofglory]

Originally Posted by Esteban

You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:

1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.

2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.

3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!

4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.

5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.

6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.

7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.

Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.

Regards

Esteban

Thank you so much my friend

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:

1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.

2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.

3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!

4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.

5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.

6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.

7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.

Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.

Regards

Esteban

Thanks Esteban


Other good test for LRL is to buy 50cm of silver(used for soldering) make a full contact loop(use your soldering iron). Buried the silver loop at 40 cm,or more ,but maybe near the surface create more fast the phenomenon.Humidity in the ground acelerate the phenomenon.
I have done this 3 years ago to try Mineoro. Until now only the model DC2008 detect the loop 50 cm distance,and my PD detect 3 m distance.


Abrazos

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Thanks Esteban


Other good test for LRL is to buy 50cm of silver(used for soldering) make a full contact loop(use your soldering iron). Buried the silver loop at 40 cm,or more ,but maybe near the surface create more fast the phenomenon.Humidity in the ground acelerate the phenomenon.
I have done this 3 years ago to try Mineoro. Until now only the model DC2008 detect the loop 50 cm distance,and my PD detect 3 m distance.


Abrazos

Morgan

Interesting method!

Regards

Esteban

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Morgan

Interesting method!

Regards

Esteban

The loop method its very good and cheap,and the ring shape emits strong radiation signal,NO NEED TO BURIED 1 KG OF SILVER COINS

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Morgan

The loop method its very good and cheap,and the ring shape emits strong radiation signal,NO NEED TO BURIED 1 KG OF SILVER COINS

OK, but I want a test field of coins, because loop is "very strong". Also is useful "weak" fields.

Regards

Esteban

[detectoman]

very thanks to yours esteban and morgan for your interst tips, i go to make other samples how, say
in other thing i think one lrl hibrid whit two detectores in one is most dificultous for put in equal function, in pd i see two tx, one in omega and other in coil 176 and too two rx one in coil little of omega and other in little coil of ferrite
i see in the project modified of esteban zahory one sistem most simple, not critic, have lateral antens how polar directional guide, cental antena, lrl pdk is very critic, not simple are here 18 power transistors and lot of components all in critic point of adjust, four circuits whit elements for put in equal one stabilization
we need lrls whit very simple steps and not critic, my pdk have sensible function, is in equilibre in house but is whit heater hot critic, may be should need change the box, because is in black plastic, in wood is my proxime experiment i put refrigeration
good whises dman.

[sweatofglory]

Originally Posted by Morgan

The loop method its very good and cheap,and the ring shape emits strong radiation signal,NO NEED TO BURIED 1 KG OF SILVER COINS

Thank you guys for the tips..........

[sweatofglory]

You can also try this method on how to test your MFD:

1. Get three empty cough syrup bottles
2. Put silver and copper inside each bottle
3. Add water and close the cap tightly
4. Dig three holes in a triangle formation, 1 foot apart
5. Set silver or Copper frequency

[aft_72005]

Originally Posted by Esteban

You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:

1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.

2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.

3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!

4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.

5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.

6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.

7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.

Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.

Regards

Esteban

Thank you Esteban .
Best regards.

[Astrodetect]

Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Astrodetect

Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????

The phenomenon is consumed when you put directly a metal detector (in on) for several minutes over the target, no when oscillator is more far from the phenomenon.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Astrodetect

Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????

Hello

If you see careful the LRL films,i said IT ABSORBE,sorry for my bad english,it means the PD is absorbing the Phenomenon,this hapens more slow or more fast,i think depends on many factors.

Regards

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by Astrodetect

Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????

The smaller the coil,better to catch the Phenomenon,if we are using big coil it consume more fast the field around buried objects,and each time you get the signals more near.
This 8 cm diameter coil used in the original PD is perfect,i think if i use biger is not good...

[detectoman]

hello brodhy morgan where are you, may be vey busy in your laboratories of experimentations? one embrace my electronic winer

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by detectoman

hello brodhy morgan where are you, may be vey busy in your laboratories of experimentations? one embrace my electronic winer

Hello

Here all ok,but no treasures,yes many coins and objects.

Abrazos

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Morgan

The smaller the coil,better to catch the Phenomenon,if we are using big coil it consume more fast the field around buried objects,and each time you get the signals more near.
This 8 cm diameter coil used in the original PD is perfect,i think if i use biger is not good...

Hi Morgan,
Maybe you can get better detection by using a smaller diameter search coil. Maybe a 1 cm diameter will work better. But you must make more turns to achieve the same inductance. Of course, you will also need to make a new null for the ferrite receiver, but this will be easy with the new 1 cm search coil. The real advantage to using a 1 cm search coil is you will no longer need to use a large box to hold a large search coil. You can easily fit all components inside a flashlight enclosure (torch in the UK). Only you can accomplish this because you used the small PCBs same as the origianal Alonso design. This will be a great asset to using your new 8x more powerful PD in Portugal where treasure hunting is frowned upon. People will think you are only carrying your light to see in dark corners.

Will this work?

Best wishes,
J_P

[detectoman]

hello guys, little coil gave near distance detection but easy detect coins, too mases how treasures, nuggets etc, large coil hig range, only big objects, but not coins, little chesses, is you decision