Post O scope of signal from gold or diamond

[Clondike Clad]

Ok i ask to see the LRL and next the proof of it working.
Post the signal being detected by a LRL the signal form gold,silver or diamond
and if so paper MONEY.
All I want to know is the information so i can test the working of this LRL stuff.On a VLF,PI or TR and BFO detector we can test and show the signal on a scope.WHY NOT A LRL?????????
So please post the signal your LRL is picking up.

[Esteban]

I can't to imagine running in the inland, forest, etc., with an oscilloscope or similar instrument trying to capture the phenomenon in a screen.

Regards

Esteban

[Clondike Clad]

What is the phenomenon and how do electronics pick it up.
A tr,vlf,pi or bfo signal can be picked up why can't a LRL.
if the phenomenon as it is called can be picked up with electronics WHY CAN'T WE SHOW THE SIGNAL FOR DIAMONDS,GOLD, SILVER AND PAPER MONEY. 30 METERS FOR A COIN..WHY CAN'T WE SEE THE "phenomenon"
THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE "phenomenon" IS IT EMF,IR,WHAT IS IT?
ALL I WANT TO DO IS TO DETECT THE SIGNAL OR AS IT IS PUT THE "phenomenon"

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

What is the phenomenon and how do electronics pick it up.
A tr,vlf,pi or bfo signal can be picked up why can't a LRL.

According to LRL experimenters, the target signal can be picked up at long distances. This is done in the receiving coil or antenna. The target signal is then processed and amplified to indicate on a beeper or meter. If the signal cannot be picked up with electronics, then the LRL user would be left with radionics or guessing to "sense" the signal.

Since the target signal is claimed to be picked up at the receiving antenna, then an oscilloscope would be able to display this target signal. An oscilloscope can display the signal when away from AC power by using an inverter to run from the car battery. There are also small battery powered oscilloscopes that work away from AC power.

Of course, this is all unproven theory, and will not work to display a target signal unless the LRL actually works to receive a target signal.

Best wishes,
J_P

[joecoin]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I can't to imagine running in the inland, forest, etc., with an oscilloscope or similar instrument trying to capture the phenomenon in a screen.

Regards

Esteban

You could use this.

[Max]

Originally Posted by joecoin

You could use this.

Hi,
yes he could do... but why he have to do ?

I think he knows what kind of signals or variations there are (if any) ... so he doesn't need scope on the forest to know what's going on... assuming all these LRLs work and are not just self convincements... selective memory stuff... etc etc etc

If he will show you the signals or signals variations maybe you'll understand which principle is behind that things... the OPERATING principle I mean (always... cause I'm skeptic... IF IT EXIST FOR REAL).

Now... do you think really he wanna tell you or show pictures of that ?

I think not... cause otherwise he posted already that stuff here... are years now we are talking about the same things and that we're making same polemics here... the same as in Robert's post... I've done myself for a number of months.

If any principle exist... he will not tell you about... will not show pictures of it... you will not get anything useful to build device or similar stuff ... but just will see some block diagram or minimized schematics and some old photos. You know already.

So... or you belive his words as them are... without proofs I mean, or you'll better just ignore all this stuff of LRL and start building your next conventional metal detector.

Really easy !

Kind regards,
Max

[Clondike Clad]

Carl has many LRL units and still can't find any signals being detected.
What is it that is being picked up????????????????????????????????????
No test cant picked up the signal but What is it about the LRL circuit that is picking up a undetected signal.If electronics is being use to pick up a signal.
THE SIGNAL CAN BE DETECTED OR REPRODUCE ON A SCOPE.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

Carl has many LRL units and still can't find any signals being detected.
What is it that is being picked up????????????????????????????????????
No test cant picked up the signal but What is it about the LRL circuit that is picking up a undetected signal.If electronics is being use to pick up a signal.
THE SIGNAL CAN BE DETECTED OR REPRODUCE ON A SCOPE.

Hi,
yes but Carl hasn't any Esteban's PD to test ...or Alonso homemade etc as far as I remember but just Mineoro's and others well known not working devices mass produced.

My post of above was only referred to Esteban's stuff that's claimed to be working (by Esteban I mean... not by me)... and related to joecoin question about scope diagrams... from field tests.

I think that he will not post here that scope tracings... but maybe I'm worng on that.

Kind regards,
Max

[joecoin]

Originally Posted by Max

Hi,
yes he could do... but why he have to do ?

I think he knows what kind of signals or variations there are (if any) ... so he doesn't need scope on the forest to know what's going on... assuming all these LRLs work and are not just self convincements... selective memory stuff... etc etc etc

If he will show you the signals or signals variations maybe you'll understand which principle is behind that things... the OPERATING principle I mean (always... cause I'm skeptic... IF IT EXIST FOR REAL).

Now... do you think really he wanna tell you or show pictures of that ?

I think not... cause otherwise he posted already that stuff here... are years now we are talking about the same things and that we're making same polemics here... the same as in Robert's post... I've done myself for a number of months.

If any principle exist... he will not tell you about... will not show pictures of it... you will not get anything useful to build device or similar stuff ... but just will see some block diagram or minimized schematics and some old photos. You know already.

So... or you belive his words as them are... without proofs I mean, or you'll better just ignore all this stuff of LRL and start building your next conventional metal detector.

Really easy !

Kind regards,
Max

I don't know why he would have to do this, he said "I can't to imagine running in the inland, forest, etc., with an oscilloscope or similar instrument trying to capture the phenomenon in a screen.", so I showed him an oscilliscope that he could run with. I don't care if he shows pictures or not. I'm just helping solve the problem of taking readings IF HE WANTS TO.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by joecoin

I'm just helping solve the problem of taking readings IF HE WANTS TO.

I think he already solved the problem of taking a reading by taping a phototransistor on the oscilloscope screen. The final signal was a beep sound that cannot be shown in a picture.

Best wishes,
J_P