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Old 01-09-2017, 09:21 PM
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Default Is LRL and dowsing for treasure only mental ?

Many of us fool ourselves and follow the obsession for years.

I ran a series of dowsing tests with various LRL and assisted dowsing devices with some good dowsers.

In condition 1: used a well known LRL signal generation type. A gold coin was the target. The dowser could detect using swivel rods.

In condition two at another location a gold coin (same one). I then mentally erased the supposed signal line. Using the LRL again the dowser could not find the signal line.

Is the signal line a mental fabrication created by belief of dowsers ?
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:54 AM
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Well maybe the electronic receiver is dowsing because I can find the line with L-rods too.
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Old 01-10-2017, 02:43 PM
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Christopher Hills said he could discharge static electricity from his body to across the room, but that can only be for an instant. I wouldn't rule out that someone else could do the same thing to disrupt the signal momentarily, and possibly even in a series. Think electric eel. Many people have said skeptics can do something similar to this with their negative vibes. So I guess if this was to be proven an experiment could be set up where the electronic receiver is receiving the signal and then the spoiler does their hex on it and then see what happens. The signal line is weak, fragile, and sensitive to interference (no argument from most people on this) so it is certainly possible but probably need some other interference present at the time so the signal is already weak to begin with. So does that prove it is dowsing? Not to me. Would it prove the person can send a discharge? Likely so if it was repeatable. And it might prove the signal line is susceptible to psychic interference.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:29 PM
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Dell Winders says the signal line can get disrupted completely sometimes and it takes a while to reestablish. But as I recall it takes about 15 seconds of interference to completely disrupt it. I don't know much about the static discharge thing if someone can perform this in a series, just enough to keep the signal line disrupted or if at all. I would have to say it is possible. As for a signal line from a frequency discriminator to be a "mental fabrication", all i will say is you got it wrong. For starters, it is physical. But don't let me stop your way of thinking.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:59 PM
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Without getting into a long discussion, here is a quick look at the difference between physical and mental.

Take a forked stick and search for water until the stick responds. That is physical. Once you have the source pinpointed (not going into this but that part is physical) to find depth you walk away from the spot and when the stick responds that distance is the depth of the water. Again, this is physical.

Now the mental or psychic way to find depth would be to stand on the pinpoint spot and count the feet until the stick responds. That is the mental, or psychic, ESP whatever you want to call it, but it's not physical. And the physical is much more accurate. That's why i say the mental map "dowsing" Ouija Board stuff is unreliable and inaccurate. But I don't care to discuss this.
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Old 01-10-2017, 05:27 PM
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Kinda strange, this is all ancient history. Dell has said talked about the signal line being physical since the 1980's. Something is not not right here. Your brain ain't working right. Maybe you've just been brain-washed by the skeptics. I don't know how to help you. Another skepticide victim.
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