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Old 08-31-2008, 05:36 PM
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Please be advised that I have purchased and subsequently field trialled a Rangertell Examiner LRL with fantastic results. I acknowledge that the device simply does not work for my friend Faye Flint who has a blood iron problem but it works very very well for me. I can flawlessly locate a half gram nuggett at 50 meters with no problem whatsoever. Micro gold within chips of quartz no problem whatever. Even locating where a coin had been laying half a minute before, residual effect. Before anyone else attempts to discredit this device please take notice of my now aim of providing Rangertell with a full customer appraisal for inclusion on their website in the near future. I believe the internet is being used in a product war between various vendors. I am not gaining any reward or advantage for doing this. Kindest regards John Baryczka hipopp@bigpond.net.au tel: 0351442292
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:32 PM
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LOL Rangertell.
Did you read the Report ?
http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/...iner/index.dat
All you need for dowsing is a goddamm piece of wire, no fake Electronics.
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:38 PM
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Please be advised that I have purchased and subsequently field trialled a Rangertell Examiner LRL with fantastic results. I acknowledge that the device simply does not work for my friend Faye Flint who has a blood iron problem but it works very very well for me. I can flawlessly locate a half gram nuggett at 50 meters with no problem whatsoever. Micro gold within chips of quartz no problem whatever. Even locating where a coin had been laying half a minute before, residual effect. Before anyone else attempts to discredit this device please take notice of my now aim of providing Rangertell with a full customer appraisal for inclusion on their website in the near future. I believe the internet is being used in a product war between various vendors. I am not gaining any reward or advantage for doing this. Kindest regards John Baryczka hipopp@bigpond.net.au tel: 0351442292


Why don't you post this stuff in Remote Sensing , uh ? Are you scared ?
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:58 PM
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That is another good reason for me to stick with real metal detectors because these type devices it appears the user has to possess special powers and abilities.
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:46 PM
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Man! one more necessary condition to be succesfull with LRL´s : blood iron must be OK.
The list is really going long.
Fortunately for the $eller it seems to work...
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:38 AM
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Listen up guys! I am not just a darn idiot sucker who handed over $650 for a device that did not work...i could have got my money back but no way am i parting with my rangertell complete with hewlett packard mathematicians calculator "stuck" on top. I am a retired former technician/technical officer and i just happen to know about these things OK? I got it working for me after considerable messing about with it like resetting the aerial after each button change , had to work out everything myself pretty much cos they did not send me the CD with it till much later. Worked off their user guide onsite and spent hours and hours in a proper technical assessment of the thing. I stand by my word that i can pick up a nugget of 0.6 grams (that i bought on ebay to test it) at 50 meters. Fact! final! No error! My rangertell does not look anything like the one that was tested so you flamers get your facts straight before you slander a perfectly good product. Now having said all that, Ranger recomend you have a metal detector as well to save time locating the target when close up. Avoids using triangulation blah blah blah. A detector goes straight to the spot. Much quicker. But mates I can find a mineralised patch at distance and know what ground to avoid. You guys have to do the hard yards and trudge every square inch of soil to detect thereby wasting 99% of your time. You can argue with Ranger all you like about their productsbut mine WORKS!!!!!! I was sincere enough to leave you my contact details for anyone sincere in thier enquiries regarding its effectiveness as a gold detector. But do not bother thanks, I hate prejudice. A test of a product found wanting by the products opposition, you kidding me right? By the way I live in Patten ST Sale Victoria and am not associated with Rangertell in any way. Cheers....
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Let someone else hide the gold nugget, without you knowing where.
Then try to find it again.

Do you understand what ideomotor effect is ?
Do you want us to believe that the latest Ranger Tell
is more than a heavy dowsing rod with a Calculator on Top
and a do-nothing circuit inside ?
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:28 AM
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read my post Mr.unregistered...I stand by my word and have sent Carl an email accepting his offer re the $25000.....regards
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:12 AM
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read my post Mr.unregistered...I stand by my word and have sent Carl an email accepting his offer re the $25000.....regards
Yes but did you try to find the nugget when you REALLY didn´t know where it was?
If it is working so well you must find gold everyday right?
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Old 09-01-2008, 02:30 AM
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YES FRED!!!!!!!! i have tons of quartz in my backyard and front garden full of useless micro gold....i show visitors when they come. But i am living in South East australia where it is all quartz reef type gold no nuggetts. I am buying a caravan to go into our "outback" next winter which is the dry season....4000klms from here....to have a go at the real stuff. Regards.
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Old 09-01-2008, 06:10 AM
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Listen up guys! I am not just a darn idiot sucker who handed over $650 for a device that did not work...i could have got my money back but no way am i parting with my rangertell complete with hewlett packard mathematicians calculator "stuck" on top. I am a retired former technician/technical officer and i just happen to know about these things OK? I got it working for me after considerable messing about with it like resetting the aerial after each button change , had to work out everything myself pretty much cos they did not send me the CD with it till much later. Worked off their user guide onsite and spent hours and hours in a proper technical assessment of the thing. I stand by my word that i can pick up a nugget of 0.6 grams (that i bought on ebay to test it) at 50 meters. Fact! final! No error! My rangertell does not look anything like the one that was tested so you flamers get your facts straight before you slander a perfectly good product. Now having said all that, Ranger recomend you have a metal detector as well to save time locating the target when close up. Avoids using triangulation blah blah blah. A detector goes straight to the spot. Much quicker. But mates I can find a mineralised patch at distance and know what ground to avoid. You guys have to do the hard yards and trudge every square inch of soil to detect thereby wasting 99% of your time. You can argue with Ranger all you like about their productsbut mine WORKS!!!!!! I was sincere enough to leave you my contact details for anyone sincere in thier enquiries regarding its effectiveness as a gold detector. But do not bother thanks, I hate prejudice. A test of a product found wanting by the products opposition, you kidding me right? By the way I live in Patten ST Sale Victoria and am not associated with Rangertell in any way. Cheers....
I see that you believe in this product but you have to expect others are skeptical. We "flamers" haven't seen any proof that these devices work.
Another thing, you need'nt get upset if someone doubts that this device actually works, I really don't care what others think about the detectors I use, I use what I want to use or what works for me.
Think of it this way, if no one else believes this product works and you know it does, then you have a great advantage over others searching for treasure. However if you are a dealer of these devices, I can understand why you would be upset since you would be trying to make money selling them.
I've got one good question about these devices, how often do they give a false (positive reaction) and there is nothing of value there? How much of a percent? Is is 10%, 50% or 99% of the time? I would hate to go out with one of these devices and dig really deep pits when nothing is there.
I have heard they are good at locating water underground but beyond that, I have serious doubts.
And another thing, with these devices, one has to hold them a certain way and according to the makers, they are very hard to get the technique of using them properly, looks like to me it would be a good way to blame the user if it doesn't work.
Finally, if these devices really worked I bet the metal detector manufacturers would have been making them and selling them for the past 50 years.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:01 PM
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Finally, if these devices really worked I bet the metal detector manufacturers would have been making them and selling them for the past 50 years.
I bet not!!!

Even with the hydrogen car engines working, there are too much oil companies around and some serious Arab's money to support USA.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:15 PM
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hear you steve...but you guys got to come back a bit with your thinking. The rangertell i bought was at first a great waste of time for me till i learnt how to use it properly. I will be the first to say that i will be buying a conventional metal detector to work with it hand in hand simply cos up close the ranger takes a lot longer to zero in on the target. I went to a victorian goldfield paid for a guide for the day rented the lastest minelab, had the minelab state manager along for company as well. Fay came as well as another gent who lasted fifteen minutes of swinging a detector around. For a days detecting we found zero zilch nothing, but the object of the exercise was for me to become familiar with the latest minelab without having to actually buy one first up. When the others were not looking i pulled the rangertell out and had a go...no signals at all on four large patches we did for the day. These goldfields are only an hour away from a city of 4 million people and the patches have beeen thrashed to death. This is not my idea of looking for gold. I have taken the ranger out the back of where i live to a goldfield ony half an hour away from my small home town. Gladstone Creek. Quartz Reef country with abandoned mines. I get two types of signal with the ranger here. The first is a nuisance it picks up highly mineralised "pipes" at surface. Looks mainly like ironstone. I pick these up at anything up to a mile away, yes, a mile. The other signal i get is every now and then from a single piece of quartz or even multiples of quartz or in one case a whole quartz reef in a mountainside. I have brought the quartz home, crushed it, and the micro gold flashes in the sunlight. Beautiful stuff but entirely uneconomic. I will be back at the gladstone when it warms up a bit to walk the entire length of the creek looking for micro nuggets which were found there in the 1880's. In the meantime i bought a 0.6 gram nuggett on ebay and oh boy oh boy oh boy. I can find this thing pretty much wherever Fay wants to hide it. Not only that but i can find fay walking out of sight in the bush with her gold jewellry on. I played around in the field a bit with the ranger and came to the conclusion it was all about learning to use it properly. Experimented in my loungeroom with a nuggett on the concrete floor with rio in it but had no trouble picking it up. Had to shift my Banjo though was interfering with the signal. OK then, I understand how you guys feel about this thing but it is entirely new in concept and so so sensitive to the target. I can get a signal for a coin or nuggett, take the coin or nuggett away and the signal lingers till it fades away. Man that is sensitive and a plus not a minus. The weather is warming up here and as soon as i can i am off to check its effectiveness at depth but what i want it for mainly is for detecting in rivers and creeks. I have the scuba gear and coup[led up with an underwater EXCALIBUR i reckon i can go over some pretty virginal gold bearing country (in the streams of Tasmania). The ranger makes it quick quick quick to scan patches, if nothing move to the next just like that, no wasting time and going over dirt or river that may have been gone over dozens of times. I have alerted Carl that this is going to cost him $25000 but i have to do this through ranger themselves cos that is the only way carl will pay for the plane trip. Will keep you guys posted. I am just a retired Technician and not connected in any way with ranger other than once they asked for a customer appraisal. I have not done this yet because it is simply too cold here the last few months we are down south. I wanted to do a serious technical/scientific assessment of the thing duly witnessed and presented. It is not rangers fault that the device may or may not work properly for some individuals. Fay cannot get anything out of it at all. Nothing. I have to have the knob on ytop right over to the right nearly off the scale. I believe at this early stage that the ranger has to be setup for each individual because your body becomes part of the aerial. It works superfine for me. Regards john.
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Old 09-01-2008, 12:33 PM
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Hi John,

I would like to ask you if you tried your RT in magnetic island and if it worked ok.

By 'working ok', I mean if you still can find your gold nugget where a strong magnetic field is present.
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Old 09-01-2008, 05:24 PM
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I bet not!!!

Even with the hydrogen car engines working, there are too much oil companies around and some serious Arab's money to support USA.
Say maybe this is a good comparison as hydrogen is very expensive, not cost effective alternative to oil. It will never be a primary fuel source for several reasons--just will not work--

Say even hipopp mentions false good signals and that these devices don't work for others, hmmm, I rest my case.

So John, you have already contacted Carl?
I bet he is wringing his hands and is really worried about the money.
That's is what we have been lacking about these devices, something more scientific, not taking someones' word that it works, that is all I have seen, which reminds me of
Championship Wrestling...maybe folks from other countries won't know what I am talking about.
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