A simple question? Post your answer/thoughts

[Dedevil]

Here's some simple, or not so simple questions. I think it depends if your simple or not.
If you stand on the ground with shoes on, are you grounded or not?
If you stand on the ground barefoot, are you grounded or not?
If you stand in the sea water are you grounded or not?

But before you reply, think, if your total body is grounded, then why does your heart keep pulsing?

rgds

[Dave J.]

Who do you think is mystified by your question?

Has it occurred to you that you might not like the answer?

--Dave J.

[Dedevil]

Originally Posted by Dave J.

Who do you think is mystified by your question?

Has it occurred to you that you might not like the answer?

--Dave J.

Hello Dave If your refering to the fact that there have been no replies to this, well of course there hasn't. I answered the question within the question. It's just something that members can think about. But wow, it must have hit a mystifing nerve for you to actually reply to it, and I like the answer that you are mystified by it.
Try this one; Do you know the song stairway to heaven? There's a section in the lyrics that says "and it makes me wonder". Do you know the song? If yes, does it really make you wonder?
rgds

[Dave J.]

Gullibilly dowsers couldn't respond because either they don't understand the questions, or because they do understand the questions and are afraid that to answer will lead to a severe debunking.

That song "Stairway to Heaven" was pop for a while, but I thunk it stunk.

If anyone posts that they want Dedevil's fake mystery cleared up, I'll be happy to oblige.

--Dave J.

[Dedevil]

Originally Posted by Dave J.

Gullibilly dowsers couldn't respond because either they don't understand the questions, or because they do understand the questions and are afraid that to answer will lead to a severe debunking.

That song "Stairway to Heaven" was pop for a while, but I thunk it stunk.

If anyone posts that they want Dedevil's fake mystery cleared up, I'll be happy to oblige.

--Dave J.

As i said i believe i answered the question within the question just arouse members minds, but please go ahead and clear up my fake mystery.
p.s. As i stated; I think it depends if your simple or not!
rgds

[Dave J.]

Originally Posted by Dedevil

Here's some simple, or not so simple questions. I think it depends if your simple or not.
If you stand on the ground with shoes on, are you grounded or not?
If you stand on the ground barefoot, are you grounded or not?
If you stand in the sea water are you grounded or not?

But before you reply, think, if your total body is grounded, then why does your heart keep pulsing?

rgds

Well, DeDevil himself turns out to be the one who wants me to jerk the rug out from under his fake mystery, so here goes.

In electricity, the concept of "ground" is a convenient fiction, but only as long as the fiction is maintained under conditions which are convenient. That old saying "ground is ground the world around" ain't so. Not understanding when it ain't so results in people who locate utilities getting shocked by "grounded" utilities, and high speed logic circuits exhibiting logic errors.

Since DeDevil hasn't explained what circuit his supposed grounds are supposed to be a node in, his mystery is fake.

The other half of his fake mystery is asking "if your total body is grounded"...... which it isn't, that's a physical impossibility for any biological organism.

You could of course immerse yourself in the ocean, which would be a pretty good ground with respect to DC electric fields above the water surface given the huge impedance mismatch between air and salt water. Still fictional, though, since DC itself is in the category of convenient fictions. That of course has nothing to do with why your heart keeps beating when you go swimming, or why people who wear tinfoil hats talk the same nonsense with the hat on as with the hat off.

To those who demand that the Universe knuckle under to their wishes and make their fairy tales be facts, science is a horrible, nasty despicable thing. Especially when the science is the very science used by engineers who aren't trying to live in a fairy-tale world to design engineered products that actually work according to those scientific principles! LRL fans came unglued when I reported that for nearly 100 years, long distance LF/VLF long distance locating has been a real science resulting in engineered products that everyone admits works. And that anyone no matter how skeptical they are can prove it to themselves for less than $10. Not many people would choke on any of that, but the LRL fans do. Why? because they're trying to get the Universe to knuckle under to their fairy tales, and being reminded that the Universe doesn't play their game really ruins their day!

--Dave J.

[Dedevil]

Well, DeDevil himself turns out to be the one who wants me to jerk the rug out from under his fake mystery, so here goes.
I’m an extremely good surfer Dave. EDITED: Keep it civil please... -Carl

In electricity, (So you’re an electrical eng hey? Good start Dave show us all your electrical engineering qualifications) the concept of "ground" is a convenient fiction, but only as long as the fiction is maintained under conditions which are convenient. Like an International standards organization I.S.O. with an internationally recognized symbol. That old saying "ground is ground the world around" (is an ISO standard electrical eng teaching term for use in diagrams) ain't so. Not understanding when it ain't so results in people who locate utilities getting shocked by "grounded" utilities, and high speed logic circuits exhibiting logic errors. Not consulting with aurthorities who have the maps before digging causes this.

Since DeDevil hasn't explained what circuit his supposed grounds are supposed to be a node in, his mystery is fake. There is no “fake mystery” Dave, there never was! The question was designed to stimulate new members minds that the earths crust has different potentials and what they are taught in school is ground or earth may just be a LOCAL GROUND.
Your reply and carrying on with the subject takes me back to the first lines,… It depends if your simple or not. CONGRATULATIONS! you are now qualified as SIMPLE.

rgds

[Dave J.]

Well, Mr. Devil,

If you ever provide accurate information about anything, do anything useful for anyone, or build something that actually works......

remember to come back and tell us about it!

Unfortunately, those are things that a person who literally represents himself as the Devil is not likely to know how to do. Perhaps if you picked something or someone more worthwhile to emulate......

--Dave J.

[Carl-NC]

Sorry, DD, Dave is right about this. The answers to all your questions are "no" at best, and meaningless in general, because there is no such thing as absolute ground. Voltage is relative, and so is ground. Earth resistivity meters would not work otherwise.

This reminds me of an old discussion I had with Hung, where he insisted that 'voltage' is an absolute measurement, and 'resistance' is a relative measurement. What do you insist?

[Dave J.]

De Devil has been putting on quite a show of late, quite true to form, too. The LRL'ers are just sitting back letting the guy make them look really, really bad because, well, because, .....as I so often say, "read the advertisement!"

I'm not suggesting that most LRL'ers are like DeDevil. Most are as far as I can tell more or less normal folks who just happen to be gullible; or, if they're marketing, they are just collecting money from people who do sincerely want to be BS'ed and in a quirky sort of way it's a fair dinkum deal. There are a couple of well known people in the LRL biz whom I regard as reprobates from start to finish, but I won't name them this time around.

Then there's DeDevil, a fellow who flat out tells you he's up to no good to anyone whatsoever, and has an excellent track record of demoing that. The LRL'ers refuse to call it what it is even though they're the ones he's making look bad! And that's their "advertisement".

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Nothing about this is a mystery. DeDevil is being honest about what he is, gotta give him credit for that much! He hates "skeptics" for reasons I already explained and which he confirmed by actual demonstration, but the LRL'ers haven't figured out what he's doing to them. C'mon, guys, he's jerking you around like a pit bull toying with a rat, and you refuse to call him out on it! And that, folks, is exactly how the world of delusion works.

Several posts back, DeDevil did exactly what people who know they ain't got squat do: he demanded to know what my "credentials" are. And said that people get shocked because they don't trust "authorities".

Anyone who has read the Gospels knows exactly what that kind of thinking is! Do none of you LRL'ers have any religious education whatsoever?

Just for the record: Mr. Devil, you already know that I have no need for credentials nor do I need to follow human authority. Not only that, if you happen to have half a dead fish to offer as a dowsing tool, I dowse frauds without that but in this case it certainly came in handy.

BTW, for those of y'all who might have believed for a split second that there's some ancient scripture that has Jesus dowsing with half a dead fish, there wasn't, Mr. Devil made that whole thing up, it is utter bullschitt. There are some ancient writings that are stranger than some of the screwball stuff being written today, but nothing about Jesus dowsing with half a dead fish. Montana Mike choked on my "atheist with a chopstick" dowsing proposition over on Tnet, but swallows the "half a dead fish" dowsing story from the Devil Himself without objection?

So-called "skeptics" (i.e., people with brains having more backbone than a jellyfish) don't have to make this stuff up, there it is in plain view. If you want to know how the world is kept stupified, there is no better place to research the matter than an LRL forum, I figured that out for my reasons ten years ago and DeDevil seems to have figured it out for his reasons a couple years ago.

LRL'ers, pick your poison. You've got a real choice now.

--Dave J.

[Dedevil]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Sorry, DD, Dave is right about this. The answers to all your questions are "no" at best, and meaningless in general, because there is no such thing as absolute ground. Voltage is relative, and so is ground. Earth resistivity meters would not work otherwise.

This reminds me of an old discussion I had with Hung, where he insisted that 'voltage' is an absolute measurement, and 'resistance' is a relative measurement. What do you insist?

A man is fishing at a river next to a railway line. A train comes towards the man and then travel’s away from the man. Is the train travelling towards or away from the man? Stimulation of the thought of relativity. A simple question Carl. There is no, yes or no’s in the answers. Thought you would be wiser to that. Mirror, mirror on the wall do I have the longest grey NASAL HAIRS of them ALL?
I don’t know about Hung, I thought some of his ideas were ok but he lost me when he went on about some Chinese teleportation video, and haven’t heard from him since. But I’m going to look into what he discussed with you, as it reminds me of a very old radio invention I saw a photo of once. As I understand it the normal ground/earth was used as another antenna and pointed towards the equator for maximum voltage difference. Well if you really put enough thought into it, the theory of electromagnet spectrum is the biggest load of crap ever, and was only caused by static being accused as being the work of the devil and unbeknown by the then science. Therefore the modern day teachings are that the magnifications of static are called magnetism is just some crap word that someone invented to describe science without getting their head chopped offed for worshiping the devil, while receiving a knighthood by the church’s queen.
rgds

[platayvyguy]

My opinion
Answer to question one: If you are not necessarily grounded circuit fashion because if you have a shoe and eliminates the chance that this floating ...
Answer to question two: It is still connected.
Answer to question three: It is still grounded.