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Old 03-30-2006, 07:51 PM
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I only own the PDC for a short time and don’t have much to show yet I bought it in the begining of 2005. When it arrived at my door, I was facing an extremely busy life as my daughter was born and I had got 3 CDs to record and produce in my studio. When I finally got the time to go out to play with it, it was winter time and the ionic fields were awfully low. Despite of that I could locate the treasure I was after. My wife has a story in the family about her dad’s grandfather burying a lot of gold items to avoid a fight in his family in the late 19th century. In fact I bought the PDC solely for this purpose. In june of 2005 I finally thought I had locate it in my second incursion to the place in 2 months. The PDC emitted consistent beeps and I could trace a cross to mark the spot. I detected from about 20 feet away.To corroborate this at the time there was a relative who was still alive who confirmed the location and the references. She’s dead now. So, big deal… Just go there and recover it right? Wrong. A big problem arised. The place is remote and of the people living there currently, several are criminals who went to this isolated spot to live and hide. After my first incursion there I began to be watched and even was aproached by one of them when I had to invent some excuse, as they saw the detector in my hands. I’m waiting for things to settle before I get back and begin the recovery operation which is planed. In the mean time I have already 2 sites to research as the PDC marked on both. One being at 1.5 miles at sea of a wreck which is documented in my region and the other an ancient spot where supposedly there is an old jesuit treasure left. This year I’ll have more time andI will lead an expedition to both as I hope to take the FG with me this time.



From that time to the end of last year I got a job traveling with the studio’s mobile recording unit and almost had no time to dedicate to research which for me is around 2 weeks for best results. In the mean time, I went to the beach a couple of times and in December last year, the PDC beeped close to the shore. I proceeded raising the sensitivity input to try to trace the signal and avoiding rapid consumption of the ionic field since the signal was really weak. But as soon as I got to the spot with the PDC’s antenna close to the sand, the signal disappeared, indicating that either the object was really small and the ionic field had been consumed or the object was fairly recent with not a so strong field. Later I confirmed that the second option was the correct one. I had a metal detector in the car. I took it and as I passed over the spot I had previously marked ,it beeped. The object turned out as being this medalion. I was lucky because it was at the reach of the MD otherwise I would have missed it.
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Later talking to my friend Celi who among dozens of items, found a ring at the beach, he told me that I could have used the center & deep acessory to pin point the PDC to the spot. That’s how he got his ring with no need of a metal detector….



The Mineoro detectors are only tools. The experience of the user is a great plus in the detection process. Taking this to my working field in audio, both Neve and SSL consoles are great mixing boards, but they alone won’t make you a better mixer or audio engineer. If you are not an experienced or capable engineer the mixings may suck, even if done in a Neve or SSL.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:56 PM
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Esteban,

The suggestion for a Mineoro user forum had been already discussed by me with Damasio. I think it's got great chance to happen. He suggested that I could be the moderator but I still have to think about it since when I'm not working recording, I'm on the field. Anyway, I'll tell you how it develops..
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Old 03-30-2006, 08:10 PM
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The PDC205 I had tested would not detect gold. I was told that it was a 1-knob model, and not a 2-knob model. Apparently the 2-knob model would really really detect gold, but the 1-knob model maybe would not. :confused:

I now have an opportunity to buy a PDC210. Are all the PDC210's equally capable, or are there certain versions of the PDC210 I should avoid?

- Carl

The PDC 205 was the first long range detector made and although it had only one input knob, it DID work and detected gold. I've already mentioned that my friend Celi Moura found the 32 gold coins with one of those. It was replaced by PDC 205 PH with 2 knobs.

The PDC 210 is 27% more sensitive than the 205. Although it was surpassed by new much more powerful models ( DC 2006, FG 7, it was a great detector for that era. Once you master it and knows how to use it, and knows about the best times of year to detect regarding ionic fields, you will find gold as anybody else who owns one. Remember, it's a tool not a 'magic gold materializer'.
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I’ll be the first to admit that I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I have interpreted hung’s opening post as saying that he has found big treasure, but has not excavated it yet.

Maybe I’m just over-educated, but just because hung THINKS they have located treasure…without excavating it…how does anyone know for sure? Just because it beeps, don’t mean its gold

Makes ya wonder
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The PDC 210 is 27% more sensitive than the 205. Although it was surpassed by new much more powerful models ( DC 2006, FG 7, it was a great detector for that era. Once you master it and knows how to use it, and knows about the best times of year to detect regarding ionic fields, you will find gold as anybody else who owns one. Remember, it's a tool not a 'magic gold materializer'.
I live in North Carolina, which has a decent gold belt... I assume gold nuggets shouldn't be a problem for the PDC210. If I can negotiate a decent price on the '210, then I'll give it a try.

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Old 03-30-2006, 11:40 PM
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I live in North Carolina, which has a decent gold belt... I assume gold nuggets shouldn't be a problem for the PDC210. If I can negotiate a decent price on the '210, then I'll give it a try.

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My suggestion is to read the manual carefully and pay close attention to the knob settings. If you get one tell me and I'll give you some hints.
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Old 03-31-2006, 05:38 AM
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Later talking to my friend Celi who among dozens of items, found a ring at the beach, he told me that I could have used the center & deep acessory to pin point the PDC to the spot. That’s how he got his ring with no need of a metal detector….


Can you please explain how this is possible,and how it's done properly.
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Old 03-31-2006, 12:08 PM
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Can you please explain how this is possible,and how it's done properly.
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In some ocasions, you get beeps but they either spread to the sides or disappear at some point. This means you are close to the target and this might be a small object. Have someone hold the 'center&deep' and move it ahead of the PDC . When the PDC beeps again, you are over the target. This could be used for pinpointing when you can't get sufficient amount of field to do the 'cross' pattern with the PDC.
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:17 PM
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The PDC205 I had tested would not detect gold. I was told that it was a 1-knob model, and not a 2-knob model. Apparently the 2-knob model would really really detect gold, but the 1-knob model maybe would not. :confused:
I had a talking with a PDC205 (1 knob) owner to phone.
he was not entirely satisfied and said that has found some objects by it, but all were big and not deep. he added the device is so-so.
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Esteban vectored to this site to explain the cost of one of the Mineoro long range gold ion detectors. So where is that cost? I'd like to know what these gizmos cost. Can any one of you tell me what you paid for them AND what they really charge for them??

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Esteban vectored to this site to explain the cost of one of the Mineoro long range gold ion detectors. So where is that cost? I'd like to know what these gizmos cost. Can any one of you tell me what you paid for them AND what they really charge for them??

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FG78= US4 6,400 as special release offer.
Don't know about the DC 2006 tough. Ask them through Mineoro's site.

Again I suggest you to wait my review on the FG78. Damasio and myself will go together in a research when the FG will be used in the field. He will personally deliver the detector to me in Rio.
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FG78= US4 6,400
Sorry, should read US$ 6,400.
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Hello Hung
I just wanted to ask your opinion regarding the mineoro.Recently I discovered this.
I calibrated the pdc210fg and then set it on the ground.Then I got a 1.5v battery and started to shortcircuit it.The pdc beeped everytime I shortcircuited it quickly, even from 3 meters away.This means that it truly detects the shortcircuit of the positive and negative ions in it's chamber?Is this the crash of nanovolts ion shortcircuit in the ionic chamber?
Waiting for your comments.
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Hello Hung
I just wanted to ask your opinion regarding the mineoro.Recently I discovered this.
I calibrated the pdc210fg and then set it on the ground.Then I got a 1.5v battery and started to shortcircuit it.The pdc beeped everytime I shortcircuited it quickly, even from 3 meters away.This means that it truly detects the shortcircuit of the positive and negative ions in it's chamber?Is this the crash of nanovolts ion shortcircuit in the ionic chamber?
Waiting for your comments.
Jim
Yes. I believe your conclusion to be correct. The ionic crash description on the MIneoro's site says it captures the negative/ poositive ions crash. This means that you replicated that actually in small scale.
Only thing is that I suppose if you try to opoen the device, not only you will ruin it from the start as you will not be able to find out what the mechanism is, due to I have told in the past, Damasio is not dumb and he made it to never be cloned.

I'll replicate your experiment with my PDC tough and get back with results.
But to back up your evidence.
There's this jesuit site detected by the PDC. It's in the woods away from any electrical powersource. When the PDC is at medium distance, it beeps intermitently confirming the existence of a huge elctrical field released by the gold buried. You add about 300 years in the past , then you get a pretty good amount of field, don't you think?
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