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Old 12-10-2005, 06:21 PM
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Exclamation Yet Another Challenge for Carl

Kelly Brown of Geo-Global in Colorado has posted a challenge to Carl Moreland on the TreasureNet website. Geo-Global makes claim that its new Treasure-Tracker has the technology to locate gold or silver from up to six miles away. They also claim the technology can discriminate all other metals, and just locate gold or silver, depending on which setting you use.


Mr. Brown’s challenge is not very businesslike, and brings about some suspicion of his company, Geo-Global, as being legitimate. One would think that by taking, and winning Carl Moreland’s $25,000 challenge, would be an excellent springboard for a new business venture to start out. I have copy/pasted Mr. Brown’s challenge as it appears on the TreasureNet website.



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Carl's test
Hey Carl I'll save you some money so you don't have to give up 25K
I challenge Carl or anyone else!
To come to Colorado with your 10 ounce gold bar and bury it on a ten acre area that I have scanned to make sure nothing eles is there. and in one attempt I will locate and retrieve it and it will be mine to keep! see there I will be saving you some money!
If I can't locate it then I am a scam artist as some of you brilliant men say!
Carl's test is to try to prove the instrument doesn't work. I don't have the need to prove it does. But since your so concearned about scams come on out and prove me wrong. But if you do you will depart with that gold bar.
Carl's test is B.S. it is desinged with a pre test that does not apply to the actual test. This is so he can back out of the 25K challenge when something like mine comes along. So if Carl doesn't take my challenge then maybe he is the scam artist?
and if he doesn't take my challenge I think that you should hold the verdict about if it works or not.
Or is that to direct and to simple of a test?
The test is to see if in fact the instrument can locate gold not to see if I can jump through Carl's hoops.
So drop the B.S. pre test come out to Colorado and prove me wrong. If you don't take this challenge
Then some of you may want to hold the verdict. $50 bucks says he will have all the excuses as to why he cant do it or anyone eles!
Because I will take your gold. Ok pal the ball is in your court so come prove me wrong or SHUTT UP. I know you won't risk the gold bar!
P.S. don't bother trying to change the challenge I won't respond. Colorado/Kelly brown
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:42 AM
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I'm not speaking for Carl, but in reading Mr. Brown's challenge i note a pretest condition on his part. He says he will prescan a patch of ground to make sure nothing is there.

Well any fool with half a brain would see that with a pre dig resistivity plot of said patch, that the simple act of digging a hole to bury the gold bar would change the resistivity of that area and would of course be detectable.

No way Jose, your challenge is "uum bogaso."

P.S. Next time Mr. Brown use a spell checker.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:00 PM
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12/11/2005 – TreasureNet website



Carl Moreland has accepted the challenge made by Kelly Brown A.K.A. Geo-Global of Colorado. Below is the copy/paste of Carl’s acceptance.



Hoorah Carl! Jim



Normally, my challenge is for dowsing-based LRLs, and I do not offer to travel because there are just too many deluded users of LRLs for me to waste that much money on. I make an exception for LRL manufacturers, who know exactly what they are doing.

This is a little different, in that Mr. Brown apparently is the "manufacturer," even though he doesn't sell the device, so I believe he falls under the "knows exactly what they are doing" category. And, Mike has offered to pay my travel expenses. I just hope it's not limited to Greyhound.

So, heck yeah, I'll accept Kelly's and Mike's offer. However, I will get to chose the property that the gold is hidden on, so I can ensure there are no information leaks. If Kelly finds the gold, in one try, he gets to keep it.

So, how's the weather in Colorado? Do we need to wait til Spring?

As an alternative, you can bring the unit to NC, for a shot at my $25,000, using the standard double-blind test. And, yes, I will waive the "pre-test," though I don't understand the objection to it. It is, by far, the easiest part of the test, because the target is in full view, exactly like in your video. The purpose of the pre-test is to allow you a few practice runs to ensure conditions are correct, and so everyone understands exactly how the real trials are conducted. It does not give me an opportunity to bow out.

So, I have 2 questions... how far can the Treasure Tracker reliably locate a 10-ounce gold bar? And, do magnets affect the receiver unit?

- Carl
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:47 PM
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Carl Moreland has accepted the challenge made by Kelly Brown A.K.A. Geo-Global of Colorado. Below is the copy/paste of Carl’s acceptance.



No. Apparently he backed out.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:10 PM
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Carl, Is this so, has Mr. Brown backed out (lost his nerve) or what? Inquisitive little grey cells want to know.


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Old 12-31-2005, 01:46 AM
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As I wrote on TNet, I'm perfectly willing to accept Kelly's challenge, if we can reach a test protocol that we both can accept as fair. I'm willing to work towards this goal, but they are demanding a certain condition that can easily permit information leakage, and do not want to budge. Whenever they want to work this out, I'm ready.

However, Michael and I have been working out the details of my own $25,000 challenge, which is separate from Kelly's challenge. I've been very flexible in making changes to the challenge, to satisfy all the requests Michael has made. So, it looks like this test will go forward.

- Carl
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Carl, Is this so, has Mr. Brown backed out (lost his nerve) or what? Inquisitive little grey cells want to know.


Happy New Year guy,
No read it. Carl did.
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I'm not speaking for Carl, but in reading Mr. Brown's challenge i note a pretest condition on his part. He says he will prescan a patch of ground to make sure nothing is there.

Well any fool with half a brain would see that with a pre dig resistivity plot of said patch, that the simple act of digging a hole to bury the gold bar would change the resistivity of that area and would of course be detectable.

No way Jose, your challenge is "uum bogaso."

P.S. Next time Mr. Brown use a spell checker.


████████████████████████████████████████ He never said anything about using anything but his unit. No resistivity, ███████.


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