Carl's phony LRL report

[Mike(Mont)]

I can't vouch for the other reports, but I feel it is my civic duty to report that the VR-800 report is way off. I own a locator from Vernell Electronics that has the same six elements and I will tell you the frequencies and the AQC ranges are totally different (all except for one of the frequencies). In the past I had mentioned to Carl that he was most likely using broken locators for his reports. The fact that he never mentions this in his reports should be considered unethical. That's not the word I would use to describe this but I'm trying to be politically correct (I hate that phrase). And anyone wonder what I think of skeptics?

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm sure the reply from the Carl followers is that LRL's are cheap to build. Well, how much does it cost to build a White's metal detector. Seeing how they are mass produced the labor cost is minimal, I would bet an LRL cost's more to build.

[Mike(Mont)]

The bottom line here is what I have said for years, Carl is not qualified to do an LRL "Report". Just like a mathmatician is not qualified to build lotto picking software--just because the person is skilled in math. You gotta pay your dues. Instead this is all hypocracy the deception that is carried on that he is somehow qualified.

No, I do not feel it is okay to post the accurate frequencies. No doubt many people have tried to use the freq's in the report and concluded that VR equipment is no good. That's a con game plain and simple. Now you have a slight idea why I get so disgusted.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

The bottom line here is what I have said for years, Carl is not qualified to do an LRL "Report".

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Sure, only LRL skammers like you are qualified to do an LRL "Report".

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Just like a mathmatician is not qualified to build lotto picking software--just because the person is skilled in math.

I suppose you also believe predicting lottery numbers from past results is a worthwhile pastime.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

The bottom line here is what I have said for years, Carl is not qualified to do an LRL "Report". Just like a mathmatician is not qualified to build lotto picking software--just because the person is skilled in math. You gotta pay your dues. Instead this is all hypocracy the deception that is carried on that he is somehow qualified...

From my observations, I have never seen any user of a Dell Systems or Vernell LRL showing all the fabulous treasure they recovered with it at a treasure hunting forum.
In fact I don't recall seeing even their weekend finds at the beach or at the relic grounds posted in any forum.
But I recall reading thousands of posts from people showing photos of their recoveries when they were using conventional metal detectors.
And they didin't mind telling what brand and frequencies the detectors ran at.
Cool, huh?

Best wishes,
J_P

[taxma1981]

1,17 hz for gold ,silver,bronze



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[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by taxma1981

1,17 hz for gold ,silver,bronze

What was the make and model of the metal detector you used to do the pinpointing?

[taxma1981]

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[taxma1981]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

What was the make and model of the metal detector you used to do the pinpointing?

SORRY!!!!! 1,17 KHZ NOT 1,17 HZ ,


now I saw I was wrong.....

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

In the past I had mentioned to Carl that he was most likely using broken locators for his reports.

How do you make the difference between a broken LRL and a good one ?

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Fred

How do you make the difference between a broken LRL and a good one ?

Good one had never been in touch with sceptic fingers. You know, negative energy can destroy all fraudulent magic.

[Mike(Mont)]

The way I see it is either Carl is eating that crap with a spoon or he knows it's bogus...or both.

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I can't vouch for the other reports, but I feel it is my civic duty to report that the VR-800 report is way off. I own a locator from Vernell Electronics that has the same six elements and I will tell you the frequencies and the AQC ranges are totally different (all except for one of the frequencies). In the past I had mentioned to Carl that he was most likely using broken locators for his reports. The fact that he never mentions this in his reports should be considered unethical. That's not the word I would use to describe this but I'm trying to be politically correct (I hate that phrase). And anyone wonder what I think of skeptics?

My VR800 says "Dell Systems," not "Vernell Electronics." I only reported what I measured, and Dell never complained that any of my measurements were wrong. But it wouldn't surprise me in the least if other LRLs have different frequencies for identical "element" settings, whether those LRLs are from "Dell Systems" or whether they are "VR" models. Or even specifically other Dell Systems VR800's.

In fact, I tested a Dell "Omnitron System II" LRL. The frequencies were 1517Hz for gold and 805Hz for silver, quite different from the 612Hz and 466Hz for the VR800. This is an almost-identical LRL from the same manufacturer... why would it have radically different "element" frequencies? I've seen the same thing with 3 different Vector Trek LRLs, they all have different frequencies. In fact, in all the MFD-LRLs I've ever measured, no two units had even remotely the same frequency settings. It's as if... it's all made up.

Mike, I welcome you to post the frequencies you measured on your VR unit, and for you explain why none of the LRLs use the same frequencies. Does the frequency really matter?

- Carl

[Geo]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

Mike, I welcome you to post the frequencies you measured on your VR unit, and for you explain why none of the LRLs use the same frequencies. Does the frequency really matter?

- Carl

Hi.
From my experiments i saw that there are many frequences that excites a metal. The harmonics from these frequences can excite some other metals so every manufacturer select the frequency who think that it is better for the locating of the "good" metal and for the rejecting to the other metals. This is the reason that we can see two same llr with different frequences.

Regards