H3Tec sad testimonial

[Carl-NC]

I finally got to watch Nat Geo's Secret History of Gold. It featured a segment on a fellow who used an early H3 (basically just dowsing rods, plus a little magic box) to look for 80 bars of gold in a cave. As usual, it was another complete failure, with accompanying alibis.

This is, of course, Chuck's #1 testimonial. Personally, I would have chosen one where gold was actually found.

[WM6]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

This is, of course, Chuck's #1 testimonial. Personally, I would have chosen one where gold was actually found.

They actually found gold in Grandmother gift box.

[malkjos]

Originally Posted by WM6

They actually found gold in Grandmother gift box.

what is your email ?
I want to ask something ?

[WM6]

Originally Posted by malkjos

what is your email ?
I want to ask something ?

I think that my email is public in my profile. You can also PM to me.

[Zocky-Zocky]

Dear friends!
if anyone has to set up PDF manual for the handling of this H3Tec device.
Thanks in advance!
Regards!
Zocky-Zocky

[Mike(Mont)]

jp, I told you I am not here to defend H3TEC. Your words mean nothing to me as I consider every skeptic (and even some claimed-to-be proponents) to be unqualified to even discuss LRL's. You really need to get over the holier-than-thou logic thing you have. Here's a book for you "Knowing Your Intuitive Mind".

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm certainly not here to defend H3TEC. I think their prices are obscene. I have never used one so I don't know. Anyone here tried one? Didn't think so but that never stopped anyone from claiming they kknow all about it. I know someone who bought one and they didn't have much good to say about it, but I don't know if they are skilled enough to use one. I also heard second hand that another person who owns one likes it.

I've said I doubt many of these people who own one really know how to use it. Like the guy in the NatGeo show, I question his skill. A person gets a map and guess what? They are dead-set on the rod pulling to that spot on the map. That's the get-rich-quick fever I preach against. That's the same manic depression syndrome that all the skeptics cannot overcome. So they blame the LRL when it is really their own fault. That's what I mean when I talk about ego problems. Add to that a person who makes their living in the metal detector business and you definitely have a recipe for disaster.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I'm certainly not here to defend H3TEC. I think their prices are obscene. I have never used one so I don't know. Anyone here tried one? Didn't think so but that never stopped anyone from claiming they kknow all about it. I know someone who bought one and they didn't have much good to say about it, but I don't know if they are skilled enough to use one. I also heard second hand that another person who owns one likes it.

I've said I doubt many of these people who own one really know how to use it. Like the guy in the NatGeo show, I question his skill. A person gets a map and guess what? They are dead-set on the rod pulling to that spot on the map. That's the get-rich-quick fever I preach against. That's the same manic depression syndrome that all the skeptics cannot overcome. So they blame the LRL when it is really their own fault. That's what I mean when I talk about ego problems. Add to that a person who makes their living in the metal detector business and you definitely have a recipe for disaster.

It's hard to try not to smile ... (Oops! I failed.)

[Mike(Mont)]

Anyone here think that show was real? They acted like they found those tree markers in front of the camera. Remember they had the guy look it up in his notes? That's most likely BS. They were so sure the gold was in that cave they brought the camera crew with them. That's biased just like every skeptic.

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Anyone here tried one? Didn't think so...

I have.

Add to that a person who makes their living in the metal detector business and you definitely have a recipe for disaster.

Gotta watch those folks in the shovel business as well... they're a wily bunch!

[Mike(Mont)]

Hey, I've seen the same thing in the LRL business...and they should know better. BTW, why doesn't white's build a cache detector?

[Carl-NC]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

BTW, why doesn't white's build a cache detector?

We do. Two of 'em, in fact. One's selling like hot cakes.

[Mike(Mont)]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

We do. Two of 'em, in fact. One's selling like hot cakes.

I do not consider the two-box to be a cache detector. Even White's never originally claimed it to be one. It was marketed as an "Industrial Locator" and I'm sure it works fine for septic tanks, etc. I tried one in mineralized ground.

I don't see any other but I assume you are talking about the TDI. I didn't see any large (one meter square or larger) coils for it. How does it compare to the other P.I. cache locators on the market when using the large coils? Not interested in the small coils.

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I'm certainly not here to defend H3TEC. I think their prices are obscene. I have never used one so I don't know. Anyone here tried one? Didn't think so but that never stopped anyone from claiming they kknow all about it. I know someone who bought one and they didn't have much good to say about it, but I don't know if they are skilled enough to use one. I also heard second hand that another person who owns one likes it.

I've said I doubt many of these people who own one really know how to use it. Like the guy in the NatGeo show, I question his skill. A person gets a map and guess what? They are dead-set on the rod pulling to that spot on the map. That's the get-rich-quick fever I preach against. That's the same manic depression syndrome that all the skeptics cannot overcome. So they blame the LRL when it is really their own fault. That's what I mean when I talk about ego problems. Add to that a person who makes their living in the metal detector business and you definitely have a recipe for disaster.

Blame?
Whose fault is it when an H3Tec fails to find the metal it is claimed to find?
How can anyone know anything about H3Tec who did not try one?

Everyone who I read about trying an H3Tec locator said they don't work except people associated with the manufacturer.
But what else can we learn without actually trying an H3Tec without trying it?
A lot.

1. The internal circuitry is fake.
It has a circuit board and a proprietary program to locate metals. But the front end and sensors for this circuit are bogus dowsing rods that are not connected in a manner that could deliver a signal.
See here and read downward: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...972#post119972
The dowsing rod which is claimed to send out a signal to excite the isotope that is selected is connected to a ground wire, not to a signal wire.
Also read the patent. The claims are not the same as what the H3Tec factory propaganda says it does.
It appears that H3Tec lied to us about this isotope signal stuff.

2. When the H3Tec people were searching for silver during their demonstration, they were not able to detect Carl's 10 oz silver bar he had in his pocket when he walked in front of them.
Nor were they able to locate the silver coins that Tim Williams hid for them to find.
The owner of H3Tec told us a lie to explain why the locator failed to detect Carl's bar of silver.
He said it was set for a different isotope of silver that is found in coins... not in a silver bar.
See here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7892#post87892
And here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...7935#post87935
Ask any physicist about this. It is either a lie or the owner of H3Tec has no clue about the physics of silver and its isotopes.

3. H3Tec lied when they posted this picture on their website to depict the US military training when they stated "H3 Tec is in the army and on the ground protecting our troops in the Middle East".
They also posted information saying "The US Army ordered new and improved H3 for the army in the war theater".
These are both lies but they are still posted on the H3Tec main page.



Read about it here: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=375415.0

4. H3Tec lied when they represented their locator as having won the Utah Innovation Award.
The attorney for the presenter of this award confirmed they did not win this award. See here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...609#post124609

5. H3Tec lied when they said their detector had to pass double blind tests at for their claims certifications Chemir Labs.
Chemir Labs says they do not perform double blind tests. See here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=119622

6. If you watch the National Geographic's "Secret History of Gold" video, you will see that what they printed about their detector locating the gold is also a lie.

So far I listed six provable lies H3Tec told to try to fool people into thinking their locator is highly respected and actually detects things.
We also have seen the wiring inside the locator which proves they lied about sending out a signal which excites the isotope of the substance you are looking for in a grid up to 10 miles square.

This is what we can learn about H3Tec without trying it out. And for $10,000 each plus annual software fees, I would rather conclude they told a pack of lies to promote their fake detector.
Maybe I would believe them if they really did a double blind test instead of lying about doing a double blind test.
Or maybe if they were able to find the coins that Tim Williams hid for them.
Or maybe if they really found the gold that they lied about finding in the National Geographic video.

Maybe this is a good piece of equipment for people who like to spend large sums of money to associate with liars.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

Cat got your tongue? The correct answer is "There is no money in it. They'd have to charge as much as an LRL."

[Mike(Mont)]

I know most all skeptics live by logic--it is their god. Don't get me wrong, I have a very logical mind developed through years of geometry and higher math. I read somewhere those that live by the left brain are severly handicapped. I also read that some people considered to be mentally retarded can dowse. Go figure.

I will make a couple comments about this thread. I've mentioned this before, at treasure shows there is so much electronic interference I doubt any LRL will work. Also there is the fact that at times LRL's just don't work. Some metal detectors won't work, either!!!Some people refuse to accept this fact. As for signal lines, I have my doubts about the H3TEC designers whether they understand what a signal line is. This is the discrimination and it appears to be similar to what is now called Witricity. If I was to use an H3TEC I would set it on the ground and walk around it to find the discriminated signal line--maybe even build my own antenna for it.

[fenixdigger]

Q; You are correct. Signal lines do not exist. That is just what we call it. We are looking for the "connection" between similar substances. I can't remember the location of the report that was done on this, but it has to do with the sub-atomic frequency caused by the valence rings.

When you get down to this level, who knows how far it will go? It is a minuscule amount of energy as we perceive it, but can we perceive the energy in a grain of sand? Let it release all of it's energy and see what happens. Remember E=mc2.

As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level
ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by fenixdigger

Q; You are correct. Signal lines do not exist. That is just what we call it. We are looking for the "connection" between similar substances. I can't remember the location of the report that was done on this, but it has to do with the sub-atomic frequency caused by the valence rings.

When you get down to this level, who knows how far it will go? It is a minuscule amount of energy as we perceive it, but can we perceive the energy in a grain of sand? Let it release all of it's energy and see what happens. Remember E=mc2.

As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level
ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"

If (as you claim) you "understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well"; you would not be making such statements as "it has to do with the sub-atomic frequency caused by the valence rings". This is just pseudo-scientific gobbledygook.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

As for signal lines, I have my doubts about the H3TEC designers whether they understand what a signal line is

Originally Posted by fenixdigger

Q; You are correct. Signal lines do not exist.

Unfortunately the LRL / dowsing proponents cannot even agree on one of their most basic assumptions.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by fenixdigger

As one that has taken 2 good hits of spent uranium, I understand atomic and sub-atomic theory pretty well. Our current knowledge is still limited as far as variables at this level ie; vibratory harmonics, magnetic variations, etc.

People like Tesla, Keeley, Rife, Reich, have all been poo-hawed, due to dealing with topics that cannot be "seen". Doesn't make it false, just "unseen"

Ok, why not, LRL´s are new discoveries and technologies too advanced to be explained...But then why have their practical uses never been demonstrated?
People like the ones you mentioned used to demonstrate their find by experiments, even if they were wrong about explanations .

[Jim]

Originally Posted by Carl-NC

I finally got to watch Nat Geo's Secret History of Gold. It featured a segment on a fellow who used an early H3 (basically just dowsing rods, plus a little magic box) to look for 80 bars of gold in a cave. As usual, it was another complete failure, with accompanying alibis.

This is, of course, Chuck's #1 testimonial. Personally, I would have chosen one where gold was actually found.

Evidently....Chuck has omitted that testimonial on the new and improved (rhetorical) H3 Tec website.

As a matter of fact....lots of things have been omitted