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Old 05-21-2010, 04:50 AM
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Thumbs up Priceworth China-LRLs !

Maybe somebody here knows the exact price but I guess those Electroscopes from chinametaldetectors found here:

http://www.chinametaldetectors.com/M...ector/Model20/
http://www.chinametaldetectors.com/M...tector/ModelB/

will cost just around 500 dollars. Electroscope is a good term because those signalize electrostatic.
btw. only the antenna unit seem not be not made out of plastic and those devices have a "self-electrostatic" reset button.

Somebody knows what schematic / homebrew plans we have here in the Forum already are the closest to them?

However - just for trying such kind of devices (if someone can't built them self) for the first times it's much more clever buying some that costs only 500 bucks instead of 5000!

And if even the half of the described range works those are pretty powerful:

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Model-B users can search for outdoor B0 ~ 250 feet of the coins in 1000 feet in size and scope of the larger items. Can search more than 9 meters depth of the larger items.
A second question remaining:
Can you order them worldwide and under what conditions (warranty, payment rules, delivery time)?
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:48 AM
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I am astounded to the fact that so much time, effort, and discussion (read space) is put into these LRL devices here on this forum. What matters if these devices cost 500 bucks instead of 5000, for you will lose both ways.

I am, and will stay extremely sceptical with devices like this unless solid scientific evidence has been delivered to prove otherwise. And I don't mean just some kind of manipulated video footage backed up by cheap scam talk.

A person who has designed a real working LRL will be spending all his or her time excavating found gold fields and other riches, and NOT waist any time by selling YOU a RIP-OFF device.

No insult intended, but I think that I am just applying some common sense here, and hopefully preventing YOU (even if it is only one person) from being RIPPED-OFF by these scam artists.

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Old 05-21-2010, 09:18 AM
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Somebody knows what schematic / homebrew plans we have here in the Forum already are the closest to them?

And if even the half of the described range works those are pretty powerful:
You should read this first before parting with any money -> http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/page...pe20/index.dat
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:06 PM
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@ Qiaozhi
Thank you very much for the info!
Do you think the chinese Electroscope uses the same "Pseudo - Circuit" as Carl Moreland had disassembled in the shown link?

@ Cyclonite
It's always good to be sceptical after all those false LRL claims floating around. Imported chinese LRLs could be especially dangerous or a waste of money because of lack testing this before. But on the other hand I can't imagine the company can sell such devices for a longer time if they are completly nonworking crap. So far we even don't know what those will cost - perhaps just 200 bucks.

Shure, it is some money, but sometimes life's a gamble and you have to bet on the right horse. Especially because so far no single one person from this forum seems to has tested the Chinese LRL so far. We need some english writing chinese guys here who can support us and test all their homemade detectors!
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:40 PM
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@ Qiaozhi
Thank you very much for the info!
Do you think the chinese Electroscope uses the same "Pseudo - Circuit" as Carl Moreland had disassembled in the shown link?

@ Cyclonite
It's always good to be sceptical after all those false LRL claims floating around. Imported chinese LRLs could be especially dangerous or a waste of money because of lack testing this before. But on the other hand I can't imagine the company can sell such devices for a longer time if they are completly nonworking crap. So far we even don't know what those will cost - perhaps just 200 bucks.

Shure, it is some money, but sometimes life's a gamble and you have to bet on the right horse. Especially because so far no single one person from this forum seems to has tested the Chinese LRL so far. We need some english writing chinese guys here who can support us and test all their homemade detectors!
Of course we cannot be certain, without buying one and dismantling it, but it probably works no better than the original.

In answer to your statement: "... I can't imagine the company can sell such devices for a longer time if they are completly nonworking crap."
There are plenty of examples of "nonworking crap" being sold worldwide, and this has been the case for many years. To quote Einstein: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:56 PM
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I post Thomas Electroscope catalogue, but can't found. Is necessary a "bank" of schematics, drawings, zip, manuals...

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12956
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Old 05-26-2010, 04:34 PM
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Perusing the Alibaba web site, there are Chinese companies offering for sale almost-exact copies of popular metal detectors from White's, Teknetics, Minelab, etc at cut-rate prices. What we have determined is that these companies are trolling for orders. The detectors haven't actually been made yet*, but if someone placed an order for, say, 5000 units, they would quickly tool up and produce them.

Of course, the buyer of these Chinese knock-offs would end up with detectors that look like a Teknetics T2 or White's V3, but have a poor-performing generic VLF circuit inside. Interestingly, if they do make a knock-off of an Electroscope, any circuit they put inside it would be an improvement over the Real Thing.

- Carl

* Exception is the Minelab GPX-4500 copy, which I'm told really exists.
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