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Old 04-14-2009, 01:44 PM
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-Digital Frequency Synthesis: scans for gold, silver, copper, bronze, iron, lead, aluminium,diamonds, water, void & other elements. User can fine adjust the frequency at 1Hz steps.

-Digital Ground Balance: to analyse whatever ground conditions and automatically select and visualize the appropriate waveform to avoid false readings from minerals.

-Automatic Power On to the ground (A.P.O):
On SPECTRA there is no “POWER ON” key. SPECTRA makes a check to the ground conditions, and will turn on automatically only in good conductive ground, that absorbs the signal.SPECTRA needs not any probes, cables, filters, external battery: It is a compact design easy to handle.It detects to all directions. The signal transmits in a 360 degrees width, the user is not limited in one direction.


“GROUND BALANCING” function.

SPECTRA analyses both the soil mineral content & level of wetness,
the result appears as GROUND VALUE identification number, on a scale 00 to 99.This identification number informs the user of the ground type to be scanned.

The advertised long range locators on the market, are nothing else than frequency generators, simple constructions that are not specialized for ground use.

Soils have varying combinations of moisture and minerals.Operating a frequency generator, it’s signal is transmitted on conductive ground but will not penetrate at all on loose ground, or on high mineralized soils user receives false target indications.

The DGB - digital ground balancing feature, was developed for SPECTRA for reliable target indication,to maintain maximum range and stable operation regardless of the ground type.Even further the "SPECTRA track" system, completes the ground balancing accurately, by selecting variable waveforms on the transmit frequency to match the soil.

Select the metal mode and an on screen counter informs when the SPECTRA signal has put enough energy to the ground to start scanning the target.When the counter stops the electromagnetic field is strong enough
and the message “START SCANNING” alerts the operator to pinpoint the target,All other metallic objects in the area are eliminated from SPECTRA, and the desired element absorbed enough energy to make it visible.

whatever the ground SPECTRA can handle it, no matter the minerals”


SPECTRA features a worldwide cutting edge technology invention:
DFS “Digital Frequency Synthesis”. The only long range locator on the market with signal outputfrom a DSP microprocessor, which is fast enough to run 40 million instructions per second,performing corrections to frequency accuracy automatically.

Every metal has its own specific molecular frequency, up to present long range locators were unableto maintain signal stability enough to make visible only the desired target,faults where common practice from minerals and “ghost” targets due to solar and magnetic storms.



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http://www.golddetectors.gr/GOLDDETE...CTORS%20EN.HTM



Any Comments , Suggestions , What do you think of this MFD ?

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Old 04-14-2009, 02:39 PM
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Well, this LRL looks really nice, not the usual Homebrew Garbage.

The "Spectra Signal Receiver" is a pair of Gold plated, shiny
Dowsing Rods

No further Questions.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:33 PM
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Well, this LRL looks really nice, not the usual Homebrew Garbage.

The "Spectra Signal Receiver" is a pair of Gold plated, shiny
Dowsing Rods

No further Questions.
So? Who among you are smart enough to know that so called "Dowsing Rods" can be used in a physics application to detect, and meter Magnetic Fields?

It appears that electronic engineers through out the world have learned what I have been instructing, and demonstrating for nearly 30 years.

The precedent has been established. The Skeptics don't have a Scientific leg to stand on. All the narrow minded can do is huddle in Carl's little Scientific pretend group and moan, grumble, and complain, about other Electronics people who are intelligent enough to realize that, "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, CAN BE DONE. Dell
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"WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, CAN BE DONE. Dell
Yet again , i would really like to know
WHAT HAS BEEN DONE??
I can´t see any serious discovery seriously related.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:56 PM
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So? Who among you are smart enough to know that so called "Dowsing Rods" can be used in a physics application to detect, and meter Magnetic Fields?

It appears that electronic engineers through out the world have learned what I have been instructing, and demonstrating for nearly 30 years.

The precedent has been established. The Skeptics don't have a Scientific leg to stand on. All the narrow minded can do is huddle in Carl's little Scientific pretend group and moan, grumble, and complain, about other Electronics people who are intelligent enough to realize that, "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, CAN BE DONE. Dell
There are quite a few proven ways to detect and measure magnetic Fields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetometer
The Dowsing Rods or L-Rods are not among them.

You are free to believe whatever you want -
and I can be as sceptic as I want.
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Any Comments , Suggestions , What do you think of this MFD ?
More dowsing rod nonsense.
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Do you reckon it's another Electronics engineer's Scam to make a fast buck? You probably noticed that Carl's occupation, seems to be fraught with electronics people using their credentials to deceive, and rip off trusting consumers with Dowsing Rods.

Since it's impossible for the electronics people designing, manufacturing and selling MFD products to know something about physics that you don't know, and Carl, has proven beyond the shadow of doubt, that a pair of hand held antenna Rods will not detect a magnetic "field", I think Carl, and his Skeptic society cronies, should focus their public attacks on Electronics people. Name them by names, mock them, tell lies about them, make stupid inferences and jokes, try hard to ruin their reputations, and scheme and conspire to put them out of business, without apology.

Least Carl, brands himself a hypocrite for focusing all earlier attacks for 7 years, only on an uneducated Kentucky Hillbilly, with no electronic credentials.

Naw, thats not going to happen from a hippocrite with a giant ego, caught up in the self serving lies of a Skeptic agenda. Right? Dell
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Power Module -- This unit's purpose is to power the Antenna Rods. This way the system is not self-potential. By increasing user bio-energy, the power module permits everyone to be a successful user.
Power module... power the antenna rods.... increasing user bio-energy....

Yeah, sure; that's really cutting edge electronics technology isn't it!

What a laugh.

I know a guy who used to wrestle alligators, and didn't know one end of a potentiometer from the other (and still doesn't) - yet he was smart enough to connect a do-nothing little box between two dowsing rods, and sold it to the fools that would buy it, telling them it had nothing at all to do with dowsing and everything to do with electronics.

Now here we are, decades later, and some company(?) connects a power module between two ordinary L-rods and claims it's not dowsing.

Sorry, guys... but What Has Been Done... Has Already Been Done! It didn't work THEN, and it Does Not Work Now!

It's still just dowsing and it's still on a par with throwing Lawn Darts into the air, and if they don't hit you in the head, you can dig where they land, and who knows what you will find.
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It's still just dowsing and it's still on a par with throwing Lawn Darts into the air, and if they don't hit you in the head, you can dig where they land, and who knows what you will find.
It sounds like you tried it, and did get hit in the head.


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Power module... power the antenna rods.... increasing user bio-energy....

Yeah, sure; that's really cutting edge electronics technology isn't it!
Theseus, your logix is a bit demented. How does a power module, power antenna rods by boosting bio energy?

I can understand the logic of using an antenna power booster to increase reception, but how does that increase Bio Energy?

There are a lot of drinks on the market that claim to increase Bio Energy.

Did you drink one contaminated with Loco Weed? Dell
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It sounds like you tried it, and did get hit in the head.

Theseus, your logix is a bit demented. How does a power module, power antenna rods by boosting bio energy?

I can understand the logic of using an antenna power booster to increase reception, but how does that increase Bio Energy?

There are a lot of drinks on the market that claim to increase Bio Energy.

Did you drink one contaminated with Loco Weed? Dell
If you would just take a little time to read more, and less time flying off the handle with your Size 13 firmly in your mouth... trying to put down the "truth-sayers", you would have noted that the QUOTE in my original posting was directly from the site, which is the subject of this thread. It's not something I said, rather it is a claim from the mfgr.

I was merely pointing out that it was nothing new, since you tried to capitalize on that phony idea many decades ago.

Please, Dell, if you are going to drop random postings into a thread - at least try to have them somewhat follow the train of thought.

I know that's asking a lot.
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More dowsing rod nonsense.

Why all MFD devices are scam ? Is The principle does`t belong to science ?
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Yes, ALL MFD devices are "non-science" nonsense.
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SPEKTRA




-Digital Frequency Synthesis: scans for gold, silver, copper, bronze, iron, lead, aluminium,diamonds, water, void & other elements. User can fine adjust the frequency at 1Hz steps.

-Digital Ground Balance: to analyse whatever ground conditions and automatically select and visualize the appropriate waveform to avoid false readings from minerals.


“GROUND BALANCING” function.

SPECTRA analyses both the soil mineral content & level of wetness,
the result appears as GROUND VALUE identification number, on a scale 00 to 99.This identification number informs the user of the ground type to be scanned.

The DGB - digital ground balancing feature, was developed for SPECTRA for reliable target indication,to maintain maximum range and stable operation regardless of the ground type.Even further the "SPECTRA track" system, completes the ground balancing accurately, by selecting variable waveforms on the transmit frequency to match the soil.


It is a simple and expensive generator. No Ground balance
It has a inner timer so at first 2...3 minutes it display ground scaning, but it give the desired frequency at the probes. It only writes "Ground balance", nothing else
With some words... "Very expensive generator for its ability"

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Are you coming to central Florida? Dell
No, I am sitting in front of my computer looking to see if I can read answers to these questions typed in the forum:
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So tell us... what convinced you the X-SCAN was the best discrimination you have ever used for finding the combined ingredients contained in paper currency or pharmaceuticals? Did you find that it discriminated these items more often than other LRLs? If so what were the percentages that the X-SCAN outperformed the competing models? How many tests did you conduct, and what were the circumstances of the test?

Will the X-SCAN locate a pill hidden under one of 10 paper cups when another pill from the same bottle is placed in the sample chamber of the Dell rod included in the combo?

Can you demonstrate the X_Scan discriminating paper currency and pharmaceuticals in front of us so we can see it actually working?
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Come to Central Florida, I will teach you how to use the Rods and trace a target.

Unknown to you, I will bury a target, and place a target sample in the X-Scan chamber.

You will have the opportunity to walk over the property for as long as you wish and guess where the target is buried.

Then you can turn on the X-Scan, wait a couple of minutes, I'll hand you the DellRod, and walk away. You can search, and find the target yourself.

When you have marked the location(s) you can compare your guessing ability with the X-Scan locations.

This is the manner in which I give demonstrations to everyone.

Are you coming to central Florida for a demonstration? Dell
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Come to Central Florida, I will teach you how to use the Rods and trace a target.

Unknown to you, I will bury a target, and place a target sample in the X-Scan chamber.

You will have the opportunity to walk over the property for as long as you wish and guess where the target is buried.

Then you can turn on the X-Scan, wait a couple of minutes, I'll hand you the DellRod, and walk away. You can search, and find the target yourself.

When you have marked the location(s) you can compare your guessing ability with the X-Scan locations.

This is the manner in which I give demonstrations to everyone.

Are you coming to central Florida for a demonstration? Dell
Hi Dell,
This sounds like an interesting test. It certainly is not a double blind test, but it may have some value. For example, consider a treasure hunter who thinks there is a treasure nearby in a 200 acre area. Maybe this would give him a better chance than just guessing where it might be before start digging holes. If your LRLs can lead you to within a 20 foot radius of a buried treasure or less, then this could be helpful in treasure hunting. The key word is IF, and also, how reliable it will be in locating the desired kind of treasure, vs trash. The only way to find out is to try it out like you said.

Unfortunately, I am not coming to Central Florida any time soon. But if you happen to be visiting Southern California anywhere between Ventura and the Mexican border, send me a PM and I will be happy to meet with you try it out, then post a professional web page with photos and videos of the testing, and links to all the major treasure forums including this one. If I am impressed with the results, I may even order a list of Omnitron products.

Perhaps there are other readers of this forum who are able to visit Central Florida and see if your LRLs work for them now.

Best wishes,
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Why don't you build your own Frequency Discriminator? An inexpensive frequency generator, and a pair of Dowsing rods is all it takes. You can probably do that for under 50 bucks. Even a $3 transistor radio will work. At the one Treasure show I attended I showed folks how to build their own Frequency Discriminator, for under $20 and 2 hours time.

If there is any secret to it, it's learning to allow the rod(s) to respond to a physics application, and don't override the natural reaction with a mind/muscle ideomotor response. This usually requires practice to mastered, and an understanding that a physics application has limitations that have to be recognized, and accepted accordingly.

The electronics people have been bamboozling,and swindling gullible consumers out of millions for years, with bells & whistles, and advanced technology claims that their electronic circuit is farther advanced, and better than the other. But most of them are using the hand held Antenna Rods, which can also be used as Mental, meta-physical tools with the stigma of Dowsing attached.

You guys crying skeptic on the forums have done an excellent job of making your high tech electronic friends wealthy in the LRL industry, by bashing and ridding the industry of low priced competition such as myself.

The electronics in the LRL have a purpose, but are of lesser importance, unless you are building an electronic receiver. Learning to use, and correctly interpreting the reactions of the Rods, is key important to having success with present Locators.

It's been my experience that electronics people won't believe anything works unless they can complicate it. Personally, I think the arm chair idiot's paper cup tests to gather data are Stupid gimmickry, and prove nothing. True field tests, successes, and failures provide usable information and scientific data.

Unless it is the intent of the electronics people to continue ripping off people with electronic jargon, exaggerated, and false advertising claims, and using so called skeptics to bash low priced competition, my advise is, "keep it simple, stupid". Learn to use the Rod(s) like your electronic friends have, and you too may be on to something that will contribute to future development.

Trying to pi$$ people off with egotistic arrogance, and intellectual ignorance hasn't carried this forum very far. Dell
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