Is this a joke detector?

[Chris2]

Hi Forum,

Recently I have seen at several places a funny looking antenna detector device (see picture)
with security guys in front of big bank buildings and also at 5 star hotels in the Philippines.
I asked the security guys what it is....Here the answer.... the security company claims that
with this "super detector" you can detect all kinds of explosives (dynamite, C4, TNT, black powder etc..).
The detector model name is "GT 100" and costs PHP1.500.000 (USD 35,000).
Inside the rectangular compartment is a kind of credit card size sample card of the explosives type that
the device can detect.
The security guys really believe that this detector works. At least the cards are label with what it "should" detect...

What kind of security joke device is it? Has anybody have seen a similar detector?

[Max]

Originally Posted by Chris2

Hi Forum,

Recently I have seen at several places a funny looking antenna detector device (see picture)
with security guys in front of big bank buildings and also at 5 star hotels in the Philippines.
I asked the security guys what it is....Here the answer.... the security company claims that
with this "super detector" you can detect all kinds of explosives (dynamite, C4, TNT, black powder etc..).
The detector model name is "GT 100" and costs PHP1.500.000 (USD 35,000).
Inside the rectangular compartment is a kind of credit card size sample card of the explosives type that
the device can detect.
The security guys really believe that this detector works. At least the cards are label with what it "should" detect...

What kind of security joke device is it? Has anybody have seen a similar detector?

Hi,
I think it's the same stuff of Quadro Tracker... just hi priced BS piece of junk !

There are scams like this in all the world... now it's mostly Asia... during olimpic games there where seen also

I think most buyers think devices really work.

Other just don't care: the scope is letting customers belive they are safe in that places... protected from attacks and the like... so are like a promo say... "visit our country... or our hotel... or our city...etc you'll be safe here!"

BS. There's no real security to that kind of attacks unless you're in a solid underground bunker... so it's just another illusion of marketing.

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

Actually if terrorists also think it works we can say that the device is performing well.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Fred

Actually if terrorists also think it works we can say that the device is performing well.

Fred, that is not so far from the truth.

I was once told by an LRL salesman (wallet-miner), that it was not important if his instruments actually worked or not. The important thing was that the instruments "looked" impressive and they came with a "very large price tag". He claimed both of these attributes were "positive affirmations" for the dowser, and thus they could go about their dowsing with a certain level of confidence that could not be obtained by dowsing with a simple bent wire.

Quite obviously, the actual results would be the same from either the high-priced device or the bent wire. However, in the case of the high-priced contraption, the sucker "felt" better since they knew they were using the absolute most expensive "dowser" available at that time.

Clever philosophy..... wouldn't you say?

[gwzd]

I still cannot imagine someone buying something without a proof that it works. It just doesn't seem real for someone to pay 35000USD without going through the trouble of at least testing the thing.
Regards,
R.A.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by gwzd

I still cannot imagine someone buying something without a proof that it works. It just doesn't seem real for someone to pay 35000USD without going through the trouble of at least testing the thing.
Regards,
R.A.

True enough, it does seem rather foolish to invest $35K into a "locating contraption", without first obtaining significant proof that it will do what was claimed or "implied" that it would do.

Yet, strange at it may seem, these types of "blind" purchases are made. Generally, they are made by a minority of individuals who have incredible amounts of cash resources, and really have no concern if the contraption actually works or not. They would rather purchase it, try it for themselves, and if it proves to be totally worthless --they simply toss it to one side and never give it a second thought.

These types of individuals are small in number but they do exist. Frankly, their biggest concern in life is their "health", because financially they really have more money than they know what to do with.

What (or who) do you think keeps some of the largest LRL dealers (with the most expensive dowsing contraptions) in business? It's certainly not the average weekend coinhunter/treasure enthusiast, who has a 8 to 5 job 5 days a week.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Chris2

Hi Forum,

Recently I have seen at several places a funny looking antenna detector device (see picture)
with security guys in front of big bank buildings and also at 5 star hotels in the Philippines.
I asked the security guys what it is....Here the answer.... the security company claims that
with this "super detector" you can detect all kinds of explosives (dynamite, C4, TNT, black powder etc..).
The detector model name is "GT 100" and costs PHP1.500.000 (USD 35,000).
Inside the rectangular compartment is a kind of credit card size sample card of the explosives type that
the device can detect.
The security guys really believe that this detector works. At least the cards are label with what it "should" detect...

What kind of security joke device is it? Has anybody have seen a similar detector?

Unfortunately this gizmo is not intended as a joke.
It is seriously non-funny, that people's lives are being put at risk. This sort of nonsense should be banned from sale.

[Carl-NC]

You'd better hope that the terrorists believe they work, otherwise they are useless. Folks have sometimes asked me, "What's the harm in people believing in dowsing & LRLs?" Well, this is the harm!

Chris2, can you PM me the names of the banks & hotels? I'd like to contact them.

- Carl

[Chris2]

Hi Carl

Sure... I'm going to Manila this weekend again and get the hotel names for you. The big bank I remember. It was HSBC Bank Main Branch at Ayala Avenue right in the hart of the CBD.

Regards
Chris

[Max]

Originally Posted by Chris2

Hi Carl

Sure... I'm going to Manila this weekend again and get the hotel names for you. The big bank I remember. It was HSBC Bank Main Branch at Ayala Avenue right in the hart of the CBD.

Regards
Chris

Hi,
HSBC had a worse attack in Istanbul some time ago: that's why maybe someone had that brilliant idea of buying LRLs to protect "better" the customers!

And at now Philippines are under similar risks cause of Mindanao's rebels purposes...

Kind regards,
Max