Post proof of working LRL

[Clondike Clad]

How about posting proof and finds with your LRL.
If you find it show it.
Only real proof only please.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

How about posting proof and finds with your LRL.
If you find it show it.
Only real proof only please.

Wich kind of proof? The only I have are hundreds pics since the 70's... I have posted here many... What do you want? Do you can see or you're blind? Can you remember? If not, your memory is very bad!!! Here with a dirty silver coin found at 30 meters of the detector... This was in 1988. Of course, for persons as Roberts and others the only common objects are the cows in the pic.

Now, Roberts, post your finds with electronic LRL. Obvious, you can't!!! Be happy like me!!! This is real experience of life!!!

[J_Player]

Working LRL's

[Esteban]

Also, I'm waiting. Now, post your proofs!

[roberts]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Wich kind of proof? The only I have are hundreds pics since the 70's... I have posted here many... What do you want? Do you can see or you're blind? Can you remember? If not, your memory is very bad!!! Here with a dirty silver coin found at 30 meters of the detector... This was in 1988. Of course, for persons as Roberts and others the only common objects are the cows in the pic.

Now, Roberts, post your finds with electronic LRL. Obvious, you can't!!! Be happy like me!!! This is real experience of life!!!

I feel invited here, since you named me. Although i usually do have nausea and pain in my lower back reading simillar posts i will answer you here.

Only possible proof you can give here is even simpliest schematics with explanations of WORKING LRL, so the rest of us can make it and see WITH OUR OWN EYES is it working or not.
No matter what are you claiming here, no matter how many tons of photos you post here, still you CANT PROOVE nothing!
Only totally IDIOT will trust your claims. Only totally FOOL will beleive that you really located anything with those funny, bogus toys you are showing on photos.
Can't you understand Esteban??? Those are NOT proofs! Please understand this once for all!
You are so persistent in your claims and posting photos....makes you very funny here! I do have really nothing against you. But you becoming more and more JOKE here...dear Esteban!

OK. Let me give you an example; Carl Moreland designed Hammerhead. So he came out in public and made few claims about HH perfomances. If he didnt posted full project,schematic and pcb, fully backuped with rich explanatory i would also claim here that he is liar. But thanks to his posts i had oportunity to make that HH and see WITH MY EYES and check so i do have MY OWN EXPERIENCES with HH and now i simply CAN NOT claim he is LIAR cose it turned that HH is really WORKABLE device. Not bougus but WORKABLE. Man can really detect burried items with HH.
DO YOU UNDERSTAN ME NOW ESTEBAN!?
IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN THESE, THAN I SWEAR; MUST BE SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH YOU!? AND I WILL NEVER AGAIN SPEAK HERE WITH YOU NEITHER WILL REACT ON YOUR IDIOTIC POSTS. THIS IS VERY LAST FROM ME ASKING YOU ANYTHING.

[J_Player]

Robert is right about proof.

If Carl posted pictures of his completed Hammerhead in his hand with lots of photos of coins and jewelry, but no schematics or instructions how to tune it, then everyone would laugh at him for expecting us to believe this stupid electronic hammerhead box will find treasure.

But Carl did not post any treasure pictures. He posted a complete schematic including circuit description and instructions for adjusting the circuits so we can build our own Hammerhead and test to see if it works like he says it will work. Anyone can follow the instructions that Carl gave to build a Hammerhead PI and prove that it works by finding buried coins and other metals the same as Carl says it will. This is actual proof in the hands of the person who wants to see it work.

Nobody who has a working LRL ever posted a complete schematic with instructions to make this same test and proof like we see for the Hammerhead PI.

So I must say that Robert is correct, that there is no proof of these LRLs working because we have never been given a schematic and instructions for tuning an electronic LRL to find treasure the same as the people who claim they will.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Robert is right about proof.

If Carl posted pictures of his completed Hammerhead in his hand with lots of photos of coins and jewelry, but no schematics or instructions how to tune it, then everyone would laugh at him for expecting us to believe this stupid electronic hammerhead box will find treasure.

But Carl did not post any treasure pictures. He posted a complete schematic including circuit description and instructions for adjusting the circuits so we can build our own Hammerhead and test to see if it works like he says it will work. Anyone can follow the instructions that Carl gave to build a Hammerhead PI and prove that it works by finding buried coins and other metals the same as Carl says it will. This is actual proof in the hands of the person who wants to see it work.

Nobody who has a working LRL ever posted a complete schematic with instructions to make this same test and proof like we see for the Hammerhead PI.

So I must say that Robert is correct, that there is no proof of these LRLs working because we have never been given a schematic and instructions for tuning an electronic LRL to find treasure the same as the people who claim they will.

Best wishes,
J_P

J_P, sorry:

The day that RObert will be right in it or similar matter, I'll go to imprison myself in an abbey!!!

See The RS forum, you have the schematic, somebody had finish the coil, Morgan found items with it. The problem is this: the persons collect information (and also loose it!!!) all his life, but never put the hands in the job.


Regards

Esteban

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Estaban

See The RS forum, you have the schematic, somebody had finish the coil, Morgan found items with it. The problem is this: the persons collect information (and also loose it!!!) all his life, but never put the hands in the job.

Hi Esteban,
In Carl's Hammerhead PI detector, he posted a complete schematic including coil description, and with instructions how to tune the circuits to find treasure. There is nowhere in any Geotech forum where the owner of a LRL posted the same complete schematic including coil description, and with instructions how to tune the circuits to find treasure. What we have is a difficult search through many circuit diagrams with errors and missing coil information. There is no way an average reader can build a working LRL from the information in the forums like they can build a Hammerhead PI from Carl's instructions.

When I look at your posts about building LRLs, you do not show complete schematics for us to make the same locator you show in your hand. you only show general theories of how it could be done. These theories do not allow us to build a working copy of the locator you show us in your hand, or find the treasure like you show us in your hand. Only the complete construction details will show us how to build a locator to work the same as the locator you show in your hand finding treasure.

There is no complete schematic with coil details and tuning instructions for any electronic LRL in any Geotech forum.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by roberts

I feel invited here, since you named me. Although i usually do have nausea and pain in my lower back reading simillar posts i will answer you here.

Only possible proof you can give here is even simpliest schematics with explanations of WORKING LRL, so the rest of us can make it and see WITH OUR OWN EYES is it working or not.
No matter what are you claiming here, no matter how many tons of photos you post here, still you CANT PROOVE nothing!
Only totally IDIOT will trust your claims. Only totally FOOL will beleive that you really located anything with those funny, bogus toys you are showing on photos.
Can't you understand Esteban??? Those are NOT proofs! Please understand this once for all!
You are so persistent in your claims and posting photos....makes you very funny here! I do have really nothing against you. But you becoming more and more JOKE here...dear Esteban!

OK. Let me give you an example; Carl Moreland designed Hammerhead. So he came out in public and made few claims about HH perfomances. If he didnt posted full project,schematic and pcb, fully backuped with rich explanatory i would also claim here that he is liar. But thanks to his posts i had oportunity to make that HH and see WITH MY EYES and check so i do have MY OWN EXPERIENCES with HH and now i simply CAN NOT claim he is LIAR cose it turned that HH is really WORKABLE device. Not bougus but WORKABLE. Man can really detect burried items with HH.
DO YOU UNDERSTAN ME NOW ESTEBAN!?
IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN THESE, THAN I SWEAR; MUST BE SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH YOU!? AND I WILL NEVER AGAIN SPEAK HERE WITH YOU NEITHER WILL REACT ON YOUR IDIOTIC POSTS. THIS IS VERY LAST FROM ME ASKING YOU ANYTHING.

Roberts, you're a child for me, who try to lie me with the diploma you download from internet (see Archive section) and present here as yours!!! With this fool and liar people who TRY TO LIE ME can't advance in any matter.

You wish to lie me and others with your supossed high-background in radio... Supossed designs, supossed projects... As you can't contribute nothing in others threads and also other levels, you try to attack HERE, JUST A FIELD "TERRA INCOGNITA" FOR YOU!!! YOU'RE A VULGAR MERCENARY!!!

If you post here your supossed radio projects or designs, I'll unmask you, AGAIN!!!

Regarding me, try later, when you have any project, simple or not.

And sorry, I can locate with simple methods, no complicate. So, I expect you can design a more "reliable" than mine methods. I'm waiting for your sophistication. But no, you can't, you can't access at this technic. Salute! And I'm happy for this!

Yes, my pics are records of what I run in this matter through 29 years, and I'm sure you don't have nothing, INCLUDE WITH NORMAL METHOD OF DETECTIONS. So, probe me here if I'm wrong. Pobrecito RObert (banned), alias Sony (banned)!!! This is the mirror in where you must watch you!!!

(Estoy pensando escribir en español desde ahora, para que se esfuercen un poco, asÃ* puede que entiendan algo.)

[Leto]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Wich kind of proof? The only I have are hundreds pics since the 70's... I have posted here many... What do you want? Do you can see or you're blind? Can you remember? If not, your memory is very bad!!! Here with a dirty silver coin found at 30 meters of the detector... This was in 1988. Of course, for persons as Roberts and others the only common objects are the cows in the pic.

Now, Roberts, post your finds with electronic LRL. Obvious, you can't!!! Be happy like me!!! This is real experience of life!!!

Hi Esteban,
I think what you need are more earthly pictures...
Why not posting pictures of coins and other finds still sitting in ground (>in situ<)..
You should document whole excavation process not only Esteban-triumfant.
None of the below finds were find with MDs or LRLs but just with digging - maybe this is the technology behind LRLs .

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Esteban

From my part, was an error to respond many questions through many years. I'll try in the future post just the necessary (regarding explanations), few text.

Hi Esteban,
No text is necessary to show proof. Only an image file to show complete schematic with coil and component values is needed for proof that Clondike Clad asked for.

Best wises,
J_P

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Leto

Hi Esteban,
I think what you need are more earthly pictures...
Why not posting pictures of coins and other finds still sitting in ground (>in situ<)..
You should document whole excavation process not only Esteban-triumfant.
None of the below finds were find with MDs or LRLs but just with digging - maybe this is the technology behind LRLs .

Leto, nice find!

I have posted sequences on Geotech. But in mytemp.dir.com no available today.
http://www.thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?t=12145&highlight=crest

Also have many sequences since the 70's black and white, in USA, finds, in labo, etc., almost complete history of this, no tricks here. Sorry if I register mine and collects of others TRIUMPHANTS, simple people in this part of the world, for them is some normal saw this kind of detection. Occurs that the globalization permits the possibility for to show this, today. Can't post all the sequences and inmense quantity of this singular electronic LRL history, because wish to put in a book (maybe electronic book in pdf format in DVD).

Here a sequence in zip, witnesses was the landlords, year 2007. Pics was resized for the imposition of limits in size.

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Some days ago I start to charge some pics in Orkut. This is with inmense possibility for to share information. I wish to create a community.

Regards

Esteban

[J_Player]

Hi Esteban,
These are very nice photos of the history of your treasure hunting. You have done very well to show photos of finds like Clondike Clad asked for. If you take all your photos, you can make a very nice book of treasure hunting pictures to read at the living room coffee table -- "la Historia de Tesoros de Alonos, Esteban, y los Amigos". But I don't see the real proof Clondike Clad asked for.

Here is an example of real proof. It shows no photos of treasures, only some instructions for building a detector so anyone can use the same detector to see treasures in their own hand. Real proof: http://geotech.thunting.com/pages/me...ead/HHv1p5.pdf

Best wishes,
J_P

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

How about posting proof and finds with your LRL.
If you find it show it.
Only real proof only please.

I saw photo of man on Moon, this isn't proof, but I believe it.

[Clondike Clad]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I saw photo of man on Moon, this isn't proof, but I believe it.

I SAW THE SATUN ROCKET AND THE LUNAR LANDER AND THAT IS PROOF FOR ME.
SHOW US A DETECTOR SIGNAL AND CURCUIT AND LET US TEST IT.
yOU ALSO LOKE CALLING PEOPLE NAMES ETC.
I THANK YOU ARE LIKE A CHEAP PACK OF CIGARETTES AND THAT STANKS.
SCAMMING PEOPLE OUT OF MONEY.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Clondike Clad

I SAW THE SATUN ROCKET AND THE LUNAR LANDER AND THAT IS PROOF FOR ME.
SHOW US A DETECTOR SIGNAL AND CURCUIT AND LET US TEST IT.
yOU ALSO LOKE CALLING PEOPLE NAMES ETC.
I THANK YOU ARE LIKE A CHEAP PACK OF CIGARETTES AND THAT STANKS.
SCAMMING PEOPLE OUT OF MONEY.

Seems you're very confused.

Now, proof me I'm scamming people out money. I'm not LRL seller, so you are confused. I was and I am electronic LRL experimenter, no supporter of brands, no supporter of Saturn V, do you see the difference or what?

Also I can see a Saturn V rocket, but isn't proof of man on Moon, but I said, I BELIEVE IN MAN ON MOON! Also I can see a metal detector on hands of many, but isn't proof of finds! But I believe you can found metal with it.

Yes, I'm a cheap pack of cigarettes and stanks, but I throw smoke. No as others... empty words!

The day that you and others moderate your horrible language and your wrong vision toward me, I'll post it.