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Originally Posted by J_Player
Hi Theseus,
You may be right about that. If so, it would mean that ideamoter response results in not finding the target other than by occasional chance occurrences where the percent of correct locations is the same as the percent correct locations found by a person simply guessing places to dig.
The important question is about category 1 -- dowsing done by a person who gets responses that result in finding the correct location of the target significantly more times than chance guessing. If this is happening, then it cannot be caused by simple "ideamotor response", but something else that gives the dowser an advantage over simple chance guessing.
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Best wishes,
J_P
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Let's, for the sake of this discussion, say there really is a Category 1 (even though we can't seem to find any hard evidence of it). From my experiences, I could not say that an "ideomotor response" was not involved (in all categories).
However, in order for Category 1 to actually exist, we have to look beyond the physical "ideomotor response" (that caused the indication) and consider what TRIGGERED that response in the first place.
There is a TRIGGER involved before ANY ideomotor response can occur, no matter what Category of result you are speaking. Also, this TRIGGER may come from the Conscious or the Unconscious areas of the mind. When they come from the Conscious Mind, they are as a result of Wishful Thinking, and will result in pure Chance Guessing outcomes. When the TRIGGER comes from the Unconscious area, it is unknown whether a genuine external stimulus caused the trigger, or it was caused by "deep-seated" notions and beliefs from within the dowser. Hence, the resultant outcome may also be on a par with Chance Guessing. Though if the TRIGGER came from "accurate" external stimuli, then the result would be accurate as well.
Of course there is one other facet of the TRIGGER, before the ideomotor response. That is, there is
no way the operator can tell from which
source the TRIGGER came.
No way! There are dowsers who claim they can tell, but they are sadly mistaken. That is also why there is no such thing as Mental and Physical dowsing. Those terms were invented by a scam artist wallet-miner to feather his nest with capital gains from the gullible and technically-challenged.
Still, as you say, the fact remains - if there are any Category 1 individuals, to this date, none have been able to demonstrate their talent. And, I'm not expecting any to come forward anytime soon with a valid demonstration. JMHO...
