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Originally Posted by Theseus
My experiments and experiences show that #3 can also be as a result of an ideomotor response. The response occurs, as in #2, but it results in a "blocked" motion rather than a visible motion. In either case, the mind is responsible for the result
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Hi Theseus,
You may be right about that. If so, it would mean that ideamoter response results in not finding the target other than by occasional chance occurrences where the percent of correct locations is the same as the percent correct locations found by a person simply guessing places to dig.
The important question is about category 1 -- dowsing done by a person who gets responses that result in finding the correct location of the target significantly more times than chance guessing. If this is happening, then it cannot be caused by simple "ideamotor response", but something else that gives the dowser an advantage over simple chance guessing.
The problems in the past may be partly in the definition of "ideamotor response", which some people assign different meanings than others. I have seen descriptions that included the entire nervous system, as well as spiritual things. For the purpose of this discussion, I am referring only to the physical brain that is located in the upper portion of the cranium and the ideas that it generate, not the rest of the the attached nerves or out-of-body spirits or auras etc. The attached nerves and body parts are only concerned in the "motor response" part of "ideamotor response" in this discussion. Thus, if there is some influence on the rods derived from spirits, auras, or other parts of the body, I would consider this to be something other than pure "ideamotor response". But these other explanations of dowsing are some of the things that I have read posted in this forum and other sources to tell why dowsing rods move. These are the things we could investigate when we see a dowser who is mostly successful in finding targets with dowsing rods.
But then, before we can investigate whether any of these things are causing the dowser to find targets, we must first find a dowser who can find the correct location of the target significantly better than chance guessing.
If such a dowser does not exist, then maybe the explanations of how he does it do not exist either.
Best wishes,
J_P