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Old 08-01-2019, 02:15 PM
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Hi WM6,

Salute J_P

Nice to see you are active.

The same with you J_P, stay active and in good physical and mental health.

Why do you make these ignorant statements?

To irritate your quasi neutral and quasi scientific position and to show you as loosely covered blind LRL believer.

Did you not read my previous posts?

Did you read my remarks?

Most of the civilized world knows all about the mechanics of mobile metal ion movements. It was first discovered that dissolved metal ions move upward in the soil in 1990 by Australian scientists. They also discovered that bacteria dissolve metal ions that are buried in the soil.

Great things happen in "civilized world", even crappy LRL that are able to detect under surface ions at couple kilometers.
Can you, from "civilized world", explain chemical or physical mechanism by which metal ion movements upwards happen?
Is it about pure ions self movement or in fact about bacteria (that create by cyanide dissolved gold ions) movement? It is not
the same, ions are chemical reactive with soil environment, bacteria are not. So who (or what) move those ions through chemical
reactive environment upwards? Do you have a valid scientific explanation?
By gravitation probably not?
Despite scientific fact, that some sort of cyanide creating bacteria are able to dissolve gold and scientific finding that gold ions
are found in soil above gold particles (I never negate that findings) you use partial research results in false way - to prove
that LRL works as promised.
Using parts of real science in fake way is still fake science.
No LRL is able to detect something valuable, not to say at distance.

This science has been known by the north American and South American continents for more than 30 years as well as the UK and most countries in Europe. I suppose this information never reached the Balkans, based on what you posted. But I can assure you that smarter scientists than me have proved that metal ions really do move up from buried metals,

You do not need to assure me, those are all very known and discussed research, that in contrary to your hope and claims,
do not prove that any crappy LRL are able to locate gold, not to say at distance.

and they really do become bound with surface elements before reaching the surface of the ground.

What is this?
You first declare that sort of Crypton LRL is able to detect ions under surface and now negate your own claim. If ions
"become bound with surface elements before reaching the surface", then they do not exist anymore. How we can detecting
something that do not exist?
Here on Balkan this is not possible.

This has been proven by hundreds of thousands of test pits that were dug and assayed by fire assay, chemical assay and electronic methods.

What has been proven? That nonexistent particles (ions) are detectable? Where? In antimatter?

However, I did not come here to make any arguments.

Of course, you have no real arguments at all. All are your unfounded arbitrary compilations.
This is your main problem.
But you come here with clear intention to support wild LRL theories, swinging around with selected and only fictionally
related parts of research in hope to prove that those wild LRL theories are based on science and already realized in form
of crappy "working" LRL.
All existing LRLs are only wanna be based on science and fake linked to it, for better marketing only.

I only came to comment on a topic that seemed interesting and add some well known information that we know from real science.

Why you need to add "well known" information that "we know" (two years and half later)?
Are you somewhat related with (seems) flapped "Krypton" business?

I have no idea why you wish to refute the truth of real science.

As I say: to irritate you and disclose what is behind your seemingly neutral sublime scientific position.

But that is not important to me because I do not wish to debate anything about what is real science or fake bs.

Good position. I support your new starting point this way.

If you want to know the truth, then read the scientific facts that were published by Frank Reith at the University of Adelaide, and read about the company that was founded based on his research which is now SGS, utilizing the mobile metal ion method to locate various metal deposits below the ground.

I follow such theme on web and read many of such articles. No one prove that existing crappy LRL compilations
are able to locate gold, not to say at some noteworthy distance.

Do you really want to see some practical use for this science?

Yes, I want to see practical use of this science in form of LRL. Can you show me?

I can tell you mobile metal ion detection is responsible for more than one billion dollars of recovered gold, platinum, cobalt, lead, phosphorus, copper, antimony, silver, palladium, and a whole lot of other minerals that can be selectively detected.

You do not need to tell me, cause I tell you already in previous answer. There are handheld spectral analyzer dedicated to detect
presence of selected metal in soil or stone samples. No one of those devices are LRL. They detect presence of metals mostly
by irradiation dangerous rays in touch with soil or ore sample. Such dedicated spectrum analyzers are not, not even in a wild dreams,
proof that crappy LRLs works as intended or promised.

Perhaps you are not aware that I previously made this information available to all forum members in posts that I made 12 years ago... maybe you would be interested in reading them...

http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0&postcount=10
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...9&postcount=33
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...4&postcount=41
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6&postcount=53
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7&postcount=82
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...4&postcount=94
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=103
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=114

Assume that all those your assays are prof that crappy LRL compilations are able to detect gold at "remote"?
Or you argue against promised LRL capabilities? Argue in favor of LRL, from seemingly neutral position, is confusing to public, at least.

To address your concern, I might suggest this post:
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...4&postcount=41

Nothing new and mainly not proof, that crappy LRL creations are able to detect valuable metal at "long range".

It is sad that this technology never reached the Balkans, because the rest of the world has prospered in a big way due to the knowledge of how to use mobile metal ion technology.

So according your "civilized world" knowledge, your LRL promotions are based on solid science and on already
existent LRLs that are working according their promo claims and seller promises?

However, even people who live in the Balkans can learn if they read the details on the internet.

I am living in the Balkan and found on internet this interesting reading about "civilized world" science facts:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2685008/https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0528203745.htm
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39357819
https://bigthink.com/neurobonkers/be...probably-false
https://www.theverge.com/2013/10/3/4...ccess-journals

Where does your own "scientific" compilations rank here?

The problem is that the links I showed were good 12 years ago, but most of those websites have been removed after a few years passed. Mobile metal ion technology is no longer a new news item, so you will not find so many references to how it works online as before. But you can go to most universities in developed countries to learn how this is real science. Geologists use this method to pinpoint the exact location of buried gold and other metals routinely, and it pays off better than many of their other test methods.

I know, but it is not my fault and not my merit.
And most important, this does not prove that all existing crappy LRLs works as intended and promoted by sellers
or producers and you.

If you really want me to debate this science, then you must first become educated in what this science is. I do not have time to debate ignorant people who make accusations with no idea what they are talking about.

Be sure, that I will never allow you to educate me with your fake "science" compiled of wild theories, wishing, dreams
and some google collected scientific breadcrumbs to argue that LRL works according promises.
They do not, at least not here on Balkan.
Maybe in your "civilized world" it is something different. Could be.
Who knows. After reading this, I am really in doubt about my education:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896

Best Wishes,

to you too.

J_P
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