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Originally Posted by FrancoItaly

Hi J_P

I think that the magnetic field is not involved in the phenomenon, not directly, the unshielded TR coil it shows that it is involved a change in static E-field or dielectric change, perhaps the key is a perfect balance between a signal from an E-field amplifier and a signal from a RX coil drived by an unshielded TR coil, but two signals that have to do with the aerial E-field. My reflection on Mineoro sensor, If I remember well the gold sheet is very near to antenna or other similar device that is polarized with 27V and this is a sort of capacitor. The polarization acts as a filter for signals less that 27V. The gold is involved not for ions but more simply for its reliability over time (not oxide).
Best regards

What you say about gold in the Mineoro circuit .. that is is reliable over time (not oxide) is true. But this is not the reason why the designer of this circuit put gold in it. According to the literature published by Mineoro, the gold chamber is a "Classifier" which identifies gold is present:
"we come out with the idea of inventing a "Substance Classifier" , that is to say, a device which has the ability to "filter" just the "ion" or "ions" we needed to produce the phenomenom of "micro crash", "nano crash"or below. After years of researching and field experiences , it was born. It was invented not just as a classifier - "filter", but as a generator of positive "ions", receiver of negative "ions" in order to the short-circuit occur , and generator of electrostatic. Through electrostatic , the "ions" walk long distances , as if along an "invisible wire".

When the negative "ion" finds its twin of opposite polarity, they love each other so intensively, that when they get together they provoke a short-circuit autodestroying themselves. As in the Romeo and Juliet movie, both of them die, but the proof of their death is a flask of poison near them; in the same way, our "passionate ions" also leave a proof of their death in "emiting a crash", which generates an electrical signal so fast as nano, pico, femto or atto seconds, detectable in sensitive electronic circuits and projected for this aim. The classifier just filters the negative 'ions", twin pairs of positivie "ions" produced by the classifier. To this phenomenom, Alonso (60) and Damásio (70) gave the name of "Substance Classifier" or just "Classifier"."

We see that the person who built this internal gold chamber did not intend to design it as a capacitor, but a substance classifier which would identify golden love ions.
The chamber has a brass rod for an antenna, and a small gap between the gold plate and a point on the antenna.
This chamber in combination with the BC548 and BC558 transistor in the first preamp stage are the components he says detect the nano, femto and atto second pulses that are emitted from gold love ions crashing at a long range.

Also, the amount of capacitance we expect from this chamber would be very low because of the relatively large separation of the conductors compared to a commercial capacitor. We also see there are several commercially made capacitors in the same part of the circuit where this gold chamber appears, which would indicate that if the designer wanted capacitance at that location, he would simply insert another capacitor. It appears that the intended purpose for this gold-lined chamber was not to serve as a capacitor.

If the gold chamber was intended to detect supposed nano-crashes from love ions, then we see evidence from many people who used mineoro LRLs that say it does not work.
We can read many reports where people are wondering why the Mineoro FG locators to not beep when they hold gold samples at the locator antenna or far away.... not even the sample gold plate that Mineoro shipped with the LRL will make beeps.
They wonder why the Mineoro locators do not respond to gold at all:

Originally Posted by Alexismex

"...For the Mineoro Fg80 we make many test: east west north south , trim the control another and another and another time , waiting for warming electronic...,we have "fresh gold" to test ,from 1 inch to several feet no response , NEVER ONE TIME , sometime when you move the test card you have a beep ...
but shure when you want a beep you must lower towards to the earth, shure you have your beep...."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7559#post47559

originally posted by Carl-NC
"...the FG80 does not detect the gold test sheet (actually, gold-plated brass, I think) that was included with the detector. It also does not detect my 10-ounce gold bar...."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7488#post47488

Originally Posted by neronc
"I have the automatic model with 999 upgrade
You pass the gold sheet in front, at 4 meters,1 meter, 20 cm and nothing.
Switch the light on ,off......nothing"
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...8814#post48814

originally posted by vcrb
"...We did EXTENSIVE testing in all types of weather and at different times of the year. It really only took about one day to know that the units did not work. We tried and tried but to no avail..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7501#post47501

originally posted by Alexismex
"...for the Forum many people here in Mexico was trapped in internet and pay cash these funny detector for to find NOTHING , not gold not silver not a small piece of iron.... nothing only the big laughing of Mineoro "inventor"....with the cash in his pocket..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...1017#post41017

originally posted by Morgan
"MINEORO LRL´s are very EXPENSIVE,they not work as advertised,so they must reduce the price,or stop sales !!!..."
"...we can see,this is the consequence of so many lies coming from mineoro factory,field test and movies..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7935#post12793

Originally Posted by michael
"we searched all the hole by our MD, no metal, no metal,....
now we are in high hesitation to dig only based on FG80 results. maybe we need some special leadings, maybe it has problem in pinponting,... anyway we are going to loose our temper for this device as it behaves crazy many times ( continuous and meaningless beepings).
sometimes we have signal in 1-3 times horizontal movement then disappears whereas have it only in vertically movement!!!,......."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7738#post47738

originally posted by mosha
"I bought DC2007 before two months but there is no success yet!"
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...5337#post45337

Originally Posted by Morris_jo
"Since 3 years, i was very interested to buy a mineoro device, i thought it do magic through T.H , as you can find a treasure from a distance that may reach 800 meter, even to determine the depth and the center point to DIGG !!
But for now, i am sure 100% it`s A very high techniques used in T.H SCAM, to fool PPL. and steal their money as piece of cake ....
I wonder, Why all these Manuafactures or Companies or " Inventors " take alot of time, money, efforts, tests .... etc , after while they came up with a miracle " The Big scam Of LRL " !!!!..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...3459#post53459

originally posted by ivconic
"...WITH MINEOROS PRODUCTS I DO HAVE ONLY NEGATIVE,BAD EXPERIENCES
SO I CAN NOT RESPECT MINEORO UNTIL SOMETHING GOOD SHOWS UP FROM THEM!
NAKED TRUTH!..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6044#post46044

originally posted by neronc
"For my part I begin to be tired of Mineoro.
I bought a Fg80 in July and this appariel sounded on everything.
He had to take the cool gold and nothing not even to 50cm.
Mineoro sent me an automatic Fg80 and this one doesn't react anymore of the all.
They explain that it sounds on the electric circuits and on the grooves provided gold with......... nothing, more of reaction of the all.
I find incredible that Mineoro provides you a device that doesn't work.
Does this device have of the to be tested before its departure of the factory????..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0315#post50315

originally posted by michael
"...If I hadn't seen found treasures by LRLs ,I would never have bought FG80, anyway it is a new experience albeit maybe thoroughly useless..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7738#post47738

Originally Posted by hawk17966
"I had chance to check and go on the field with very few of those: PDC210,FG78 and last week with FG80.....None of them is mine,but from people who comes to me to ask for some explanation cose they

realised that they made mistake and waste money....."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6622#post46622

From the reports we hear from actual users of Mineoro LRLs, it appears the circuitry inside does not detect gold.
The only exception is a few treasure hunters in Europe report that some Mineoro locators can find a very large treasure from a short distance if it is a lucky day when environmental conditions are good.

Of course, it is easy to see from the Mineoro circuits that their locators are capable of detecting VLF over a fairly wide band, and static charge anomalies which may be found in the vicinity of the box.
This is not the same as detecting buried metal.
And according to most of the reports from users, Mineoro locators do not detect buried metal.
Is it possible that the gold cylinder inside the Mineoro locators does not classify gold?
Do you think anyone has been successful at locating fresh gold with a Mineoro fresh gold (FG) locator like the FG79, FG80, or FG90 besides Alonso and his factory helpers?


Best wishes,
J_P