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Old 08-14-2010, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hung
How many beeps do you think it's required to find a spot... when you are already in the spot and only needs the location? One million?

With all that 'inconsistent' beepings as you say gaucho perfectly reached the site and even dug the hole...
I already explained the beeping case and what's going on. There is no inconsistency at all, so I will not waste my time going into this explanation again.
Hmmmm.... If you can't understand the meaning of random beeps, I guess you are wise not to try to explain the concept of inconsistency to others, as you say.

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Originally Posted by hung
I would like however to place some coments about your words concerning the ordinary metal detectors you named.

First point they are obsolete technology.

Metal detector technology as it is today, that is, speaking of ordinary ones, is more than 100 years old now. And today they offer the same kind of concept, independent of being BF0, VLF, PI, etc. looking for changes in magnetic field and conducting metals after a first magnetic field is applied.

I can build a box out of paper. Then I move to wood, then to plastic and as years go by, with new discoveries in leagues, resins and materials, it can be made of plastic, fiberglass, aluminum, etc. No matter how sofisticated that is, it's still a.... BOX.
So, in sum... No matter how these MDs are offered today in terms of fancy looking and parlor shop effects, they still employ over a century year old concept by the manufacturers.
I won't go here in deeper coments on how I think they fool people into thinking they are getting the latest technologies, when the real technologies are being exclusively used by the military or independent researcherers, and making these consumers think they are getting one hell of a deal using those fancy craps for coin hunt at the beach when the toys reach the 'unbelievable' depth of 10 inches for instance. But this is my personal opinion, no discussion about it.
OK, I might be exagerating as there's some inovation goin on despite of being the same old, old concept.
Of course you are exagerating. In fact I am wondering if you are telling outright lies. If the conventional VLF and PI detectors are simply a "sophisticated box" and "fancy craps", then we can presume you would not recommend them, much less use them. However, you do use them. You are only saying these things to try to convince others they shouldn't use them. Suppose people found out you really do think they are useful, and use them yourself? Would they stop believing your stories? Already I have heard you tell stories that can't possibly be true in this forum, and now you are telling people conventional metal detectors are obsolete.

Who are they obsolete for? Certainly not you. You use one to find treasure when you want people to think your Mineoro machines found the treasure. Was WM6 right? Are there peple in Brazil trying to scam the rest of the world into believing their LRLs work?
Or did you throw out your conventional detectors years ago, seeing as how they are obsolete?


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Originally Posted by hung
You mentioned white's TM808, The mineoro 08MI beats it hands down, even still using electronics of the 60's....
What?
Mineoro is also manufacturing "obsolete" conventional metal detectors?
So they are not obsolete for Mineoro or for you. You only want others to believe they are obsolete.

Now why would that be?
Could this be the next adventure into hung-science?
The only reason that comes to mind is the conventional metal detectors recover over 1000 times more treasure than LRLs have recovered, whether by accident or design. I can look at the published finds every week and there is no comparison. Gold, silver jewelry, caches, coins, relics... the treasure hunting forums are full of these finds from conventional detectors. I see hundreds of treasure finds every week, but only once in a very long while do we hear about a treasure found from someone using an LRL. And we also have a large majority of LRL purchaseres who complain they don't work.

I suppose there could be some logic to try to convince people the conventional detectors are obsolete in order to promote a concept they are sure doesn't work. But maybe it is hard for them to believe you when you secretly use these conventional metal detectors on hunts where you claim the LRLs located the treasure. Of course it is a free forum, so you are free to post about how metal detectors are obsolete, Just as others are free to believe you use obsolete metal detectors to find buried metal.



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Originally Posted by hung
...Again, this technology is obsolete. The military and independent parties are the ones who use the real deal.
LRLs do not require these at all. Maybe a JEOHUNTER just to check what they have detected. This provided the depth is at the reach of the coil.
LRLers usually employ MDs for pinpointing, actually when these craps do pinpoint, but in my opinion, this is just a psicological back up for those who do not know or feel like doing with the LRL itself.

Sorry, but these are my thoughts.
You don't need to be sorry for your thoughts.
We know you are among those who need the psychological backup to take a VLF metal detector.
Do you suppose some people think it is the only detector that really finds treasure for you?

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J_P
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