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gibon 01-26-2010 07:13 PM
End of the Mineoro link on youtube
 
Is anybody have information concerning the end of Mineoro Link on Youtube?

www.youtube.com/WATCH?V=ORVXhPAdV9l

WM6 01-26-2010 07:23 PM
This is according new Yutube politic against quackery.

hung 01-26-2010 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gibon (Post 106054)
Is anybody have information concerning the end of Mineoro Link on Youtube?

www.youtube.com/WATCH?V=ORVXhPAdV9l

Hummm... You're right. The videos are gone.
Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with the new videos they plan to release soon showing Alonso and the new developments.

I'll see what I can find.

Qiaozhi 01-26-2010 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WM6 (Post 106056)
This is according new Yutube politic against quackery.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hung (Post 106061)
Hummm... You're right.
Perhaps I've taken this out of context. :rolleyes:

:lol:

Fred 01-26-2010 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gibon (Post 106054)
Is anybody have information concerning the end of Mineoro Link on Youtube?

www.youtube.com/WATCH?V=ORVXhPAdV9l
Brazilian government has bought it and reserved all the rights.Now it is officially a secret device.

ivconic 01-26-2010 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred (Post 106068)
Brazilian government has bought it and reserved all the rights.Now it is officially a secret device.
Which one of those million models? Or all!??

Can you post here some document to justify that?
It is more likely that Brasillian government shut it down for some other reasons?
Or more likely Youtube "government" shut it down due much complains from screwed customers?

ivconic 01-26-2010 10:30 PM
I missed something!?

Official site still exist!!?

http://www.mineoro.com/

:shocked:

ivconic 01-26-2010 10:44 PM
If Mineoro exist on market for 50 years and along with LRL's is producing walk-through metal detectors, than most logical move (to preserve at least something from the bust) would be to buy company and "detach" production of bogus devices from producton of real working and useable walk-through's.
So that's what i'll do if i was Brasillian government - to save what could be saved....
Mineoro company can be good for government only if maintain production of workable and useable technology.
I also would change the name of the brand, because "Mineoro" name is already very well known worldwide and carry disreputable image. So better to change it and to start all over again...

hung 01-26-2010 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hung (Post 106061)
Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with the new videos they plan to release soon showing Alonso and the new developments.
Confirmed.

J_Player 01-26-2010 11:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hung
Confirmed.
The old videos were interesting. I wait to see the new videos.
I am sure they will show something that opens new horizons that I never considered before.


BTW, Do you know if Alonso reads the Geotech forum?

Best wishes,
J_P

Fred 01-27-2010 01:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivconic (Post 106072)
Can you post here some document to justify that?
NO!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Player (Post 106090)
BTW, Do you know if Alonso reads the Geotech forum?
Best wishes,
J_P
Coinfirmed.

Infamy 01-27-2010 07:19 AM
What would be the procedure to have this company prosecuted in Brazil?

WM6 01-27-2010 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Infamy (Post 106111)

What would be the procedure to have this company prosecuted in Brazil?
To demo him how real pistol working.

Esteban 01-27-2010 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Player (Post 106090)
The old videos were interesting. I wait to see the new videos.
I am sure they will show something that opens new horizons that I never considered before.


BTW, Do you know if Alonso reads the Geotech forum?

Best wishes,
J_P
No, but yes some person(s) in Mineoro.

Fred 01-27-2010 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 106121)
No, but yes some person(s) in Mineoro.
:ninja: :rolleyes:

hung 01-27-2010 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 106121)
No, but yes some person(s) in Mineoro.
Sorry to correct you on this Esteban, but actually only one person did this in the past when that challenge was up, around 2006 at Damasio's request. Since then I can safely say that this person no more watches this forum.
Actually neither this or any other forum.

Regards.

PS. How's the toroid experiments doing?

Esteban 01-27-2010 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hung (Post 106130)
Sorry to correct you on this Esteban, but actually only one person did this in the past when that challenge was up, around 2006 at Damasio's request. Since then I can safely say that this person no more watches this forum.
Actually neither this or any other forum.

Regards.

PS. How's the toroid experiments doing?
OK, thanks for clarify.

I'm preparing, have built aluminium loop where toroid is inserted. The magnetic PD is great, expect with this toroid can be better.

Regards

ivconic 01-27-2010 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 106140)
OK, thanks for clarify.

I'm preparing, have built aluminium loop where toroid is inserted. The magnetic PD is great, expect with this toroid can be better.

Regards
What's that!? LRL based on TM808!? :lol:
White's must be informed about this!!!:lol:

Esteban 01-27-2010 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ivconic (Post 106143)
What's that!? LRL based on TM808!? :lol:
White's must be informed about this!!!:lol:
White's make a good job with this "shortcircuited" loop. The point failed is the Allen screw, that you must to press time by time for to mantain good contact. This bad contact lose a lot of sensibility. 0.01 ohm in screw is crucial here. Do you remember my tips about constructing it? :rolleyes:

I think Tesoro, Garrett and other brands must be informed about your great industry, too... My industry is very poor... I'm only a hobbyist, but you're a professional in this matter. :lol:

Regards

ivconic 01-27-2010 10:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 106144)
White's make a good job with this "shortcircuited" loop. The point failed is the Allen screw, that you must to press time by time for to mantain good contact. This bad contact lose a lot of sensibility. 0.01 ohm in screw is crucial here. Do you remember my tips about constructing it? :rolleyes:

I think Tesoro, Garrett and other brands must be informed about your great industry, too... My industry is very poor... I'm only a hobbyist, but you're a professional in this matter. :lol:

Regards
:lol::lol::lol: My "great industry" is based on TGSL, Delta Pulse, SMW and few Zahori's. I sold 1 unit in 2 months - that's the rate of success! I am GIANT! They should fear! :lol::razz:
Inform Garrett and Tesoro and you will kill them - by laughing them to death!

ivconic 01-27-2010 11:03 PM
"...The point failed is the Allen screw, that you must to press time by time for to mantain good contact. This bad contact lose a lot of sensibility. 0.01 ohm in screw is crucial here..."

BTW...did you knew you can weld Al? All you need is some stronger welder or at least 100W soldering iron. Use sharp knife to clean ends which are about to be soldered and apply melted rosin, than fast press tin with fervent soldering iron and heat the place good. Tin will form nice coat over Al surface and than you can easilly link those ends.
But all this you must do very fast because Al oxidate very fast in air.
Do few times and you will become an expert.
That's how i fixed few TM808's so far! :lol::razz:
Also i fixed my Troy X3 shaft with same method, only welder was much stronger...

Esteban 01-28-2010 01:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivconic (Post 106169)
:lol::lol::lol: My "great industry" is based on TGSL, Delta Pulse, SMW and few Zahori's. I sold 1 unit in 2 months - that's the rate of success! I am GIANT! They should fear! :lol::razz:
Inform Garrett and Tesoro and you will kill them - by laughing them to death!
I remind that you're the constructor of (regarding your words): "far 30 of this", "far 30 of this other"... etc. So if only you sold 1 unit in 2 months, you have surplus in your garage... :lol: Or... all this is pure exagerations? :lol:

Esteban 01-28-2010 01:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivconic (Post 106170)
"...The point failed is the Allen screw, that you must to press time by time for to mantain good contact. This bad contact lose a lot of sensibility. 0.01 ohm in screw is crucial here..."

BTW...did you knew you can weld Al? All you need is some stronger welder or at least 100W soldering iron. Use sharp knife to clean ends which are about to be soldered and apply melted rosin, than fast press tin with fervent soldering iron and heat the place good. Tin will form nice coat over Al surface and than you can easilly link those ends.
But all this you must do very fast because Al oxidate very fast in air.
Do few times and you will become an expert.
That's how i fixed few TM808's so far! :lol::razz:
Also i fixed my Troy X3 shaft with same method, only welder was much stronger...
Thanks. I use the principle of White's... you know what for! :lol: So, I "invent" my own system... :lol:

ivconic 01-28-2010 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 106174)
I remind that you're the constructor of (regarding your words): "far 30 of this", "far 30 of this other"... etc. So if only you sold 1 unit in 2 months, you have surplus in your garage... :lol: Or... all this is pure exagerations? :lol:
No, i made over 200 so far, 200 different (some of those never finished, some of those are not worth to mention). But, how many years passed? I was talking about selling "rate". I don't have surplus, pitty. Right now i have only one SMW and several different coils and nothing else...
Oh, i should be very lucky if i sold all those that i made. Maybe 30 i gave as present to some people... or exhchange for something else..
You know very well what i am talking about. I beleive you also had simillar situations.


Besides; not my guilt cose MD manufacturers seems not interested for such "small" markets as Serbia, so we here are faced to tough choice; to make our own detectors ...or to wait somebody from abroad to smuggle something (pretty rare case).
If major manufacturers were presented here officially with shops and customer service - i would never even try to make metal detector, instead i would buy one...much easier to me. But once i made my first good detector....everything started! Without my slitest intention to spend life like that...dealing with those. Now is to late to turn back... But remember; it was not my choice than!

ivconic 01-28-2010 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 106175)
Thanks. I use the principle of White's... you know what for! :lol: So, I "invent" my own system... :lol:
Actually; i always wanted to read detailed technical explanation about TM808 design. Not manual, not review - but details about electronic stages, roles of each stage and idea of design itself.
I can not say that i don't know how 2 box supposed to work, i know some details of course. But i would like to see and read facts from designers. Pitty i never saw anything simillar. I like Payne's articles just because he talks pretty straightforward and it is easy to learn from him. I can say that also i liked Carl's articles on HH subject; also straightforward and understandable. Andy Flind also, Don Lancaster also. But majority of others are writing pretty general, hard to learn details.
So speaking of TM808...Esteban..you would be mostly on your own, when designing such coils..

I can point you on "Deep seeking metal locator" by Phil Wait and Roger Harrison, i beleive you already saw that project. There you can see pretty good explained coil & loop coupling, for such matters that you are planing to explore...


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