Don´t dowse any more, girl , you have found your treasure! i´m here!

Hi Theseus,
You have applied your concept of a trigger to "ideamotor response". I presume this means the dowser is holding rods without making any kinds of thoughts that involve deciding things or arriving at conclusions. He is only allowing responses to happen when some "trigger mechanism" compels his hands to respond.

This could work for any of the senses. ie: a person driving, while not thinking about anything in particular has a sudden response to slow down. He then realizes he has spotted a black and white car with lights flashing on top of it (before he had any conscious thoughts about it, he responded). This principle also works when you get too close to a fire, or sit on a needle that you can feel, etc.

Other times, we use our senses while making conscious thoughts and decisions. ie: you are lost, so you look for landmarks, where do you see the sun in the sky, street signs, etc. You think about the things you see, and process this data consciously and purposefully. Then you arrive at a conclusion of where to go.

With dowsing, either of these mechanisms could be used. In the case where you don't have a clue what you are doing, you may be using pure ideamotor guessing responses, and digging lots of empty holes. Or you may be processing information you read at the library, and on maps that give you some ideas about the treasure when you decide where to dowse at. Perhaps thinking and arriving at conclusions constitutes part of the "trigger" for this manner of dowsing.

But what about the possibility that there are more sensory mechanisms than the 5 common senses? Suppose a dowser has some sensory input that tells him to feel nervous and causes his arm muscles to twitch when he walks in certain locations. Suppose he also has a certain "recognizable feeling" that he has learned to associate with different kinds of anomalies he finds when he is dowsing. None of this has been confirmed, but it haas been reported by some dowsers. If it is true, then what about determining the source of this "sensory input"?

Consider the sense of hearing. You can tell the source of a sound fairly well, as well as a lot of other informatiion about the sound just by listening as you walk. Suppose these reports of another "sensory input" were also able to gain some clues to the source of the "trigger" in the same manner as hearing does, or perhaps vision, or smell? This would mean it is not a purely "ideamotor responsse", but a response that is more similar to a "sensory input response", as in Pavlov's dog.

Of course, this is all hypothetical wishful dream-thinking until a person is located that can accurately find things by dowsing better than chance guessing, and demonstrate for some testing to see if it is true or not.

Best wishes,
J_P

The reality is somewhat different. It's a convenient method of wallet-mining, without having to leave the comfort of your own home. :razz:

The rods mostly move due to gravity, but occasionally wind and rain causes movement. :rolleyes:

Correction ... pseudo-scientific application. In other words, a well known mind trick explained using wish-science.

Wallet mining from the kitchen table, or (if performed in the living room) "armchair dowsing".

The only intertwining of dowsing with physics is via gravity. The rest is a fairyland interpretation.

No idea what that is supposed to mean. It's just meaningless gobbledygook.

That would be a smart thing to do. But why would you want to change the habit of a lifetime?

Now who's being egotistical?

It would be my pleasure. :lol:

:lol: That's never stopped Dell. :lol:

At least you don't post nonsense. :thumb:

:lol: Yes .... I too am concentrating at my kitchen table, and ..... it's becoming clear ... you are using Windows without any anti-virus software. :lol:

This message will self-destruct in 10 seconds, leaving your disk infected with spam and spyware. 8)

First, I am confused about your use of, or the spelling of the term we are discussing. You consistently talk about ideamotor response. Ideamotor apraxia is the inability to carry out a command from the brain to mimic limb or head movements performed or suggested by others. Conceptual apraxia is similar to ideamotor apraxia, but infers a more profound malfunctioning in which the function of tools or objects is no longer understood.

I am speaking about the trigger for an ideomotor response. Are we talking about the same thing?

I'll assume we are. Then, certainly, there could be some other sense, other than the five we know about. And, yes it could be the trigger for an ideomotor response that could accurately reflect the location of a sought after target. Hypothetically speaking, that could be a possibility to explain "accurate dowsing". However, no matter where the source of the trigger is located, (ie. sixth sense, etc.) the operator can never tell for sure the source of the trigger, which is all I'm contending.