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enjoykin4
02-11-2016, 08:20 PM
http://www.iga1.ru/images/pribor.jpg
ИГА-1 Russian Long Range Locator


Designer IGA-1 Yuriy Kravcenko

His personal site:
http://www.iga1.ru/iga-1.html
E-mail:astra.47@mail.ru

http://www.facebook.com/iga1ru


Locator Distance 60 meter in ground. (passport data of IGA-1)



http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/kol5.jpg

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/kol4.jpg

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/kol2.jpg

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/kol3.jpg


Schematic diagram from device passport - finding deep underground cavities up to 60 m !!

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/pic1.jpg

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/iga1p.jpg

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/iga1d.jpg


More informations here: http://www.iga1.ru

Geo
02-12-2016, 04:55 AM
Thank you, very interest.
Do you have any info of it patent?? it would be nice for us to learn how it works.

Regards

dragomir
02-12-2016, 05:42 AM
The unit captures radiation from the core of the earth. In practice, it works as x-ray machine. The rays from the core of the earth pass along through obstacles - cavities, metals, water and form a silhouette on the surface of the earth. with this unit captures this silhouette.

WM6
02-12-2016, 12:06 PM
The unit captures radiation from the core of the earth. In practice, it works as x-ray machine. The rays from the core of the earth pass along through obstacles - cavities, metals, water and form a silhouette on the surface of the earth. with this unit captures this silhouette.

Nice theory. Problem is that X-ray radiation is coming from everywhere. Radiation (Beta, Gama, X-ray) from space (sun) is even more stronger than radiation from Earth core. We cannot filter out different source of same X-Ray (or other ionizing) radiation by electronic means, as par example by directive antennas.

The only way to make X-Ray sensor (which is in fact well known ion chamber) sensitive in one direction is to put sensor in very heavy weight leaden tube (single side opened). Imagine that you bring with you your car accu on terrain. Not enjoying task.

Yes, this way we can sense silhouette or shadow of bigger mass/deposits (or even caves) in soil only, that stronger differentiate by shadow from other surrounded soil. Do not expect to sense single coins or even hoard of 357 gold coins in pot at 1m of depth. It is impossible to differentiate such weak signals from signal chaos from (never structurally uniform) soil. So we can only sense approximation of signals and differentiate between such approximation. Practically only bigger (copper ore par example) deposits will give us infos, enough distinctive to be taken as useful detecting. No better than magnetometers but less practical.

Geo
02-12-2016, 01:28 PM
Maybe is good for big caves.
At more mountains there is very strong background noise so the magnetometers can't "see" less than 10 gammas.:frown:

Geo
02-12-2016, 01:29 PM
The unit captures radiation from the core of the earth. In practice, it works as x-ray machine. The rays from the core of the earth pass along through obstacles - cavities, metals, water and form a silhouette on the surface of the earth. with this unit captures this silhouette.

Very interest, thank you.

taxma1981
02-12-2016, 03:45 PM
geo this magnetometer work perfect:χαχαχα:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1whX2NdSk

dragomir
02-12-2016, 07:44 PM
This device can register and human aura and broadcast monitors and TVs.

enjoykin4
02-12-2016, 11:56 PM
The unit captures radiation from the core of the earth. In practice, it works as x-ray machine. The rays from the core of the earth pass along through obstacles - cavities, metals, water and form a silhouette on the surface of the earth. with this unit captures this silhouette.


Mr. Dragomir do not give own misinterpretations to given LRL withouth reading nothing about device principles. Your calims are not correct. :angry:

ИГА-1 device is not X-ray detector nor Alpha, Beta, or similar detector - it is simple Long Distance Locator and work detecting scalar component of Vector potential H*= -div A→ to any anomaly. In principle it is very advanced version of FrancoItaly PLL4046 LRL.

Folks i have gave a lnik where all interested can find more informations. Read about using good russian-english translator before you judge about device and his characteristic.

Translated text
http://www.translate.ru/siteTranslation/autolink/?direction=re&template=General&sourceURL=http://iga1.ru/shema.html

In normal life is usuall stuff - first read something and inform yourself and then make own judgements and decisions in accounting - not vice versa !!

http://iga1.ru/patent/shiga.jpg


Best regards
enjoykin4

enjoykin4
02-13-2016, 05:57 AM
There are most important informations about ИГА-1 (IGA-1) LRL in english from author site:

http://www.iga1.ru/iga.html


Last updates February 2016 Considering the fact, that Mr.Kravchenko is very sick, he let his Moscow attorney fix all the questions regarding IGA-1 devices. His Moscow attorney name is Victor Pricazchikov, email: ekogeo@bk.ru

http://www.iga1.ru/pribor/invent.jpg
The inventor of all devices is Juri Kravchenko. Lajt- 2 Enterprise, Ufa, Russia

e-mail astra.47@mail.ru , astra-47@yandex.ru

Головной офис

Написать нам (http://iga-1.blizko.ru/contacts#) г Уфа
stiffa@yandex.ru
astra.47@mail.ru
http://www.iga1.ru/
http://facebook.com/iga1ru
http://twitter.com/iga1ru


OK folks, for those who plan to buy this device should know that there are several modifications of given device. According to modifications and factory settings device IGA-1 can be tuned to work to special purposes ***:

1. Long Range Locator - detect underground GOLD and SILVER treasuries including objets under the snow, underground, concrete, wood, metal, etc.

2. Geophysical Anomaly Detector - detect and maping finite geopathogenic zones at homes, industrial buildings and counrtyards.

3. Fazoaurometer - detect highly sensitive gauge of non electromgnetic (scalar) radiation of life biological entities like humans, animals and plants.

4. Spin-Torsion detector - fields measurement and research.

5. High penetrating emission detector - for example Lasers, matrix of Laser diodes, matrix of infrared diodes, high velocities charged spining masses, .... and other HPE sources.

6. SVM technologies in metallurgy.

7. Dolmens and sacred megalitic stones detector.

8. Underground Water veins detector (locator).

9. Oil and gas underground pipeline detector.

10. Solar storms and Solar protubera detector.

http://stblizko.ru/system/images/product/003/320/675_big.jpg
ИГА-1 (IGA-1) Russian LRL


El detector IGA-1 operation manual in Spanis:

http://www.iga1.ru/spain.doc


Passport Device IGA-1 and The operation manual in English

http://www.iga1.ru/pasport.doc


All IGA-1 devices were manufactured on the bases of the military defence plant. For 20 years about 400 IGA-1 devices were realised and sold worldwide. IGA-1 devices works successfully in the various countries worldwide such as the USA, Canada, Austria, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Greece, Chyprus, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine.... etc

Price IGA-1 LRL is 1200 bucks or 1000 Euros. For obtain IGA-1 contact Victor Pricazchikov, Moscow at his email: ekogeo@bk.ru

................................

ps: I am not a reseller just ordinary physicist who love examine mother nature. !! :)

Best regards
Enjoykin

dragomir
02-13-2016, 08:53 AM
I did not say that it is a detector of radiation, said works on the principle of x-ray machine and I think I know much more than you because I have such a device.

enjoykin4
02-13-2016, 10:10 PM
I did not say that it is a detector of radiation, said works on the principle of x-ray machine and I think I know much more than you because I have such a device.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3AKhkZa49qI/UyKHP0NuEqI/AAAAAAAAB4E/J3dqjTDa9s0/s1600/Suspicion.jpg


Maybe you know if you have degree of one best physic university in СССР (now Russian Federation) but I am very suspicious about yours master degree.

Honestly I am sick of such childish games - "I know this, I know that, I know everything....". For me it's quite clear - IGNORANCE TOOK PLACE IN YOUR MIND !!

ps: I am also very suspicious about your possession of IGA-1 device - also I don't see a sense lying around about it.

bla bla bla....
bla bla....
bla..

I also have no time to make a empty discussions with any kind of TROLLS !! :angry:

HAVE A NICE DAY !!

Best regards
Enjoykin4

dragomir
02-14-2016, 10:14 PM
I not only have Russian IGA device -1 own schedule and I did 7 years ago several times. There is a very special microcircuit K140 ud13, that is the biggest problem for the construction of this device. I bought 70 microcircuits number of them have begun working are made only 5. These ICs from Leonid Brezhnev and no longer produced. Benefits and special amplifier k140 UD 17 and so on. Colleague should know that not joking and that it works so IGA. There are things that do not disclose, and that might not know them. Я думаю что етот прибор не чувствуеть никакие торсионние поля ,а только вылучение ядро земля от 10 до 15 кхц.

Geo
02-15-2016, 05:42 AM
What type of IC is the K140 ud13???

dragomir
02-15-2016, 11:06 AM
The device is a precision DC preamplifier with differential inputs, built by the scheme modulator-demodulator (MDM).

Geo
02-15-2016, 03:03 PM
Thanks.
Can you find datasheet for this IC??
I looked for it but without results.
:)

WM6
02-15-2016, 09:27 PM
Geo, probably you need to search using Russian Cyrillic letters:

http://www.chipinfo.ru/dsheets/ic/140/ud13.html

K = Корпус (body/housing) = K140

Type = УД13

Geo
02-16-2016, 07:06 AM
Yes, it needed Russian Cyrillic letters.

Thank you:)

Geo
02-16-2016, 07:09 AM
I not only have Russian IGA device -1 own schedule and I did 7 years ago several times. There is a very special microcircuit K140 ud13, that is the biggest problem for the construction of this device. I bought 70 microcircuits number of them have begun working are made only 5. These ICs from Leonid Brezhnev and no longer produced. Benefits and special amplifier k140 UD 17 and so on. Colleague should know that not joking and that it works so IGA. There are things that do not disclose, and that might not know them. Я думаю что етот прибор не чувствуеть никакие торсионние поля ,а только вылучение ядро земля от 10 до 15 кхц.

Is it possible to find UD13, UD7 and UD17????
Also what is the basic difference between Iga-1 and BEGA???

:)

dragomir
02-16-2016, 03:03 PM
only from Russia. you should know that UD13 is a big problem. IGA does not work with all ud13. It only works with certain manufactured in year and month microcircuits.

Geo
02-16-2016, 05:12 PM
I want to register at "nerealnost.net" but i can't... maybe because it need to have keyboard with russian characters.
Can you help me????

Geo
02-16-2016, 05:14 PM
only from Russia. you should know that UD13 is a big problem. IGA does not work with all ud13. It only works with certain manufactured in year and month microcircuits.

Do you know where is the difference between this "good" UD13 and all the other????

dragomir
02-16-2016, 05:19 PM
Here it can be.

Geo
02-16-2016, 05:40 PM
I can't see the photo

WM6
02-16-2016, 07:58 PM
I want to register at "nerealnost.net" but i can't... maybe because it need to have keyboard with russian characters.
Can you help me????

Geo why you need to register? As I can see articles there are free.

Wish to join their forum?

If so, you need to start from this page:

http://nerealnost.net/forum/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00

Click on field (bottom-left) that you agree with forum rules.

--> [v] Я ознакомился с правилами и условиями и принимаю их.

On next page fill in registration form. You do not need to fill in Cyrillic character some member names use Latin font.

Geo
02-16-2016, 09:06 PM
Geo why you need to register? As I can see articles there are free.

Wish to join their forum?

If so, you need to start from this page:

http://nerealnost.net/forum/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00

Click on field (bottom-left) that you agree with forum rules.

--> [v] Я ознакомился с правилами и условиями и принимаю их.

On next page fill in registration form. You do not need to fill in Cyrillic character some member names use Latin font.

Hi.
Articles are free but photo is not.
I have problem when i try to give the secret code (antirobot method).
If you have russian character at your keyboard i may give you my details so to make the registry for me.

Regrads:)

WM6
02-16-2016, 10:48 PM
Geo, you are right. I am trying to register, but forum anti-robot routine doesn't work on proper way. I inserted correct Russian words with (capital) Cyrillic letters, but check always return as wrong protecting word.

Probably you need to contact admins (contacts are blocked), cause you are not only with registration problems:

[11.2.2016] pz ivc: Good afternoon! No letter with activation. Please help.
[02/11/2016] Radomir: You activated as a user.
[12.2.2016] galex1981: Good afternoon, the activation did not come by e-mail
[12.2.2016] addminus: Alas, chain letters, that is activate your account, I did not get (..Help!
[02/12/2016] Radomir: The letter is not important, the main result smile.gif
[12.2.2016] addminus: Thank you. Now it is. I deal with the disk and torus Mishina. Thor wound, is now looking for the optimal oscillator circuit. I read the reviews.
[13.2.2016] tool6: Hello. Please no aktivatsii.pisma
[13.2.2016] AlexSB: Hello! I want to publish your photos and change your avatar, but I closed access. AlexSB
[13.2.2016] yuras2010: Hello! Please activate me an e-mail to come.
[02/13/2016] IMSI: join with the same request, thanks in advance
[02/14/2016] Radomir: all a pleasant experience!
[15.2.2016] pippa111: The problem with the activation of help.
[15.2.2016] Tight777Rock: Everybody Welcome! without activation can not open an attachment (((
[02/15/2016] Radomir: Ntgthm cvj; tnt /
[02/15/2016] Radomir: Now you can.
[15.2.2016] Tight777Rock: Thank you!
[Yesterday, 21:54] An.Ivan1: Do not receive a letter with activation! Please help!
[Yesterday, 22:39] Radomir: Please

WM6
02-17-2016, 01:27 AM
Probably there existed different Code Pages for Russian Cyrillic and codes of our International code pages are not the same as Cyrillic code page set for forum protection words.

Geo
02-17-2016, 04:46 AM
So what can i do???:angry:
Maybe enjoy or dragomir can register for me....

Geo
02-17-2016, 04:55 AM
What does it mean???
Напишите в поле справа слово nauka русскими буквами (все буквы прописные). Это нужно для защиты от роботов.

Translator "says" Write in the field next to the word nauka Russian letters (all capital letters). It is necessary for the protection of the robots.

WM6 i don't see where is the word nauka???:angry:

WM6
02-17-2016, 12:28 PM
What does it mean???
Напишите в поле справа слово nauka русскими буквами (все буквы прописные). Это нужно для защиты от роботов.

Translator "says" Write in the field next to the word nauka Russian letters (all capital letters). It is necessary for the protection of the robots.

WM6 i don't see where is the word nauka???:angry:

You need to type Russian word "nauka" (here in Latin letters) in capital Russian Cyrillic letters in anti-robot protective field.

nauka = science = НАУКА

another used protective code-words, that changes automatically after unsuccessful try:

realnost = reality = РЕАЛЬНОСТЬ

nerealnost = unreality = НЕРЕАЛЬНОСТЬ

Seems code-words above should be inserted in correct Russian Cyrillic code page (this mean that letters shape are the same as above, but letters code names are different. If you use Explorer in Win you can change actual code page (probably in Format menu ?). Try it. I am working under Firefox/Ubuntu and cannot say exactly how it is under Win Explorer.

More about code pages you can read here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_866

Geo
02-17-2016, 02:19 PM
and what about the number that we see in the generator box???
Does we need to put it after the nauka????

WM6
02-17-2016, 03:41 PM
and what about the number that we see in the generator box???
Does we need to put it after the nauka????

No. Code-word ("nauka") checking is separate from generated number checking.

Those number you should put in line/field under graphic number generator (in the same "box" as the graphic number generator).

Geo
02-17-2016, 05:32 PM
I don't understand. What i must do first, to write the "nosta..." or to insert the number that i see and i hear the numbers that returns to me by speaker, and what i do with them???:angry:

WM6
02-17-2016, 07:11 PM
I don't understand. What i must do first, to write the "nosta..." or to insert the number that i see and i hear the numbers that returns to me by speaker, and what i do with them???:angry:

Geo, you should insert data as per copy of registration Form bellow:

Ignore speaker, it is for audio check only.

You need to fill complete form first, no matter of entry order, and then click to registration button.

If you got in response (at top of the page) this:

Обнаружены следующие ошибки
Ответ на защитный вопрос неверен. Повторите попытку.


Then problem is most probably in Cyrillic code page you use. Then try to change active code page in your browser.





http://i66.tinypic.com/2jb391z.jpg

Geo
02-18-2016, 05:56 AM
Thanks, i will try again although i see it "dark":frown:

dragomir
02-18-2016, 09:46 AM
Geo long time ago I had the forum registration but I have forgotten the password. If you send me your e-mail will try to register them. If you can not find microcircuits I can send you, but I do not know which ones work.

Geo
02-18-2016, 12:23 PM
Thank you.
I send you my personal details via PM.

:)

Geo
02-18-2016, 12:30 PM
If you send me your e-mail will try to register them. If you can not find microcircuits I can send you, but I do not know which ones work.

I"ll inform you

WM6
02-19-2016, 04:22 PM
Any success with registration, Geo?

Geo
02-19-2016, 04:47 PM
Hi wm6.
Not yet, dragomir made the registration for me but i waiting for the confirmation email. Until now nothing....:frown:

dragomir
02-19-2016, 06:41 PM
I sent a letter mail me change the password and still no response. I received a letter that ten minutes would react. I do not know what's going on

Geo
02-21-2016, 03:56 PM
Hi wm6.
Not yet, dragomir made the registration for me but i waiting for the confirmation email. Until now nothing....:frown:

No results yet.... i don't know what to do, there is n't any other way to comunicate with admin...:frown:

WM6
02-21-2016, 08:50 PM
Try with change code page in Windows Explorer
or use some copy-paste "gateway" software like UltraEdit:

http://winrus.com/cp_e.htm


Plain Text non-Unicode editor-based method of loading Cyrillic .TXT file into Word 97. Instead of opening your Cyrillic plain text (.TXT) file directly in Word 97, you need to open it in any non-Unicode plain text editor and then use Copy/Paste methods of this page to place this text into Word 97.
I am using a shareware plain text editor UltraEdit (http://www.ultraedit.com), so you can download it, too or use your favorite plain text editor that works with Cyrillic.
Let's use UltraEdit (http://www.ultraedit.com) as an example:


In the UltraEdit menu, go to View / Set Font and there:

select "Courier New".
in the Script list below right choose "Cyrillic"


Do File / Open to load your Cyrillic .TXT file into UltraEdit. You should see normal Cyrillic text.
To copy the text from non-Unicode UltraEdit to Unicode-based Word 97 use the method explained above on this page:
Copy/Paste technique non-Unicode --->Unicode (http://winrus.com/cp_e.htm#toUni2)

Geo
02-22-2016, 04:39 AM
Maybe try it, ι start to get tired :θυμωμένος:

Geo
02-22-2016, 04:44 AM
Who can explain me how works this type of antenna???

WM6
02-22-2016, 09:30 AM
If this even work as antenna, then it is so called capacitive antenna.
Draving in schematic in resonator chamber style is misleading:

http://i65.tinypic.com/8ww3dv.jpg

Geo
02-22-2016, 05:11 PM
From what i remember (before many many years) The capacitance from disk don't receives signal but make a short antenna to works as bigger. But i don't remember this time where i have read that IGA-1 works at low frequences, so who is the job of this small antenna?????

:???::???:

moving
02-22-2016, 05:46 PM
http://nerealnost.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t13655.html

WM6
02-22-2016, 07:10 PM
According schematic, this circuit can work as some sort of static charge detector.
Antenna is here CHEAT type antenna and could be replaced by any other type of antennas..

Geo
02-22-2016, 07:37 PM
thanks:)

moving
02-22-2016, 10:51 PM
and 'a duty, the system seems to function, let's play it and maybe perfezionarlo.In practice seems a detector static, with samples?

Geo
02-23-2016, 05:02 AM
In practice it works, but how good???
How easy it detects a deep cave???
We can take the answer only by them who are owners of IGA-1.

WM6
02-23-2016, 09:27 AM
Owners of IGA-1 are in hope to return some of their investment in this contraption, so don't expect him to be honest.

I am sure that IGA-1 is able easy to detects deep caves - if you know their exact location.

Geo
02-23-2016, 10:35 AM
Owners of IGA-1 are in hope to return some of their investment in this contraption, so don't expect him to be honest.

I am sure that IGA-1 is able easy to detects deep caves - if you know their exact location.

If so... then my lrl is much better :lol:

WM6
02-23-2016, 12:39 PM
All of your handmade LRL's, from your decent collection (except Brazilian Minestrone CHEAT examples), are better than IGA-1, for sure.

Geo
02-23-2016, 12:52 PM
Can you find this Ukrain patent ?? (патент UA № 45071) ???

WM6
02-23-2016, 03:29 PM
Don't expect to see patented IGA-1 design.
Nothing new in those "invention" - similar to patent of optical sight for observing bald head.

http://uapatents.com/4-45071-sposib-ocinki-elektromagnitnogo-polya-obehktiv-zhivo-ta-nezhivo-prirodi.html

Geo
02-24-2016, 05:45 PM
Thanks for pattent but i can't translate it... :angry:

enjoykin4
02-24-2016, 09:17 PM
Owners of IGA-1 are in hope to return some of their investment in this contraption, so don't expect him to be honest.

I am sure that IGA-1 is able easy to detects deep caves - if you know their exact location.


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Again and again @BIGGEST WMGURU6 EVER BORNED ON THIS MIDGRAD PLANET@

Hey folks don't learn and analyse anything - dont think with own mind - just belive the @BIGGEST Slovenian WMGURU6@

I am shocked how some people have not nor 1 gramm of shame nor even 1 gramm of knowleadge and 1 gramm experience but have a tons of empty consumptions (without any proofs!! What kin of GURU6WM is he - when he think all people of this forum and probably planet are just flock of sheeps !!

YES folks - THE WMGURU6 is SURE !! BE A SHEEP -> BELIVE IN GAYROPIAN WMGURU6 !!

enjoykin4
02-24-2016, 09:36 PM
Who can explain me how works this type of antenna???


Супер-Биорезонансные техники (http://superbiorezonans.9bb.ru/)

http://superbiorezonans.9bb.ru/uploads/000c/67/df/942-1-f.jpg

ps: Use Burr-Browns or LT (Linera Technology США) OP-amplifiers in metalic cases instead given on sch.


ps2: Displacement current - from Jewpedia, the nonfree encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current)

In electromagnetism, displacement current is a quantity appearing in Maxwell's equations that is defined in terms of the rate of change of electric displacement field. Displacement current has the units of electric current density, and it has an associated magnetic field just as actual currents do.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current

So to be or not to be ??

What kind of current flowing through the capacitor - for example ....

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6833&d=1224027935

If you know answer on this you will know what kind of signals (currents) flow through unbalanced cylindrical capacitor - and what kind of devices represent such capacitor with one bigger and one smaller plate ( for example from gold) !!

THERE IS ONLY ONE RULE IN THIS UNIVERSE - THE GOLDEN RULE AND GOLDEN INTERSECTION.

www.youtube.com/?v=TBKN7_vx2xo (http://www.youtube.com/?v=TBKN7_vx2xo)

Astalavista GEO !!
Enjoykin4

Qiaozhi
02-24-2016, 10:06 PM
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MEGA ABSURD FROM MEGA WMGURU6 !!!!!

Again and again @BIGGEST WMGURU6 EVER BORNED ON THIS MIDGRAD PLANET@

Hey folks don't learn and analyse anything - dont think with own mind - just belive the @BIGGEST Slovenian WMGURU6@

I am shocked how some people have not nor 1 gramm of shame nor even 1 gramm of knowleadge and 1 gramm experience but have a tons of empty consumptions (without any proofs!! What kin of GURU6WM is he - when he think all people of this forum and probably planet are just flock of sheeps !!

YES folks - THE WMGURU6 is SURE !! BE A SHEEP -> BELIVE IN GAYROPIAN WMGURU6 !!
Please read the basic rules of the forum:
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10526

Especially the part where it says: "Personal attacks and taunts will not be tolerated."

Please take this as a warning. :nono:

Geo
02-25-2016, 05:40 AM
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ps2: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current"][B]Displacement current - from Jewpedia, the nonfree encyclopedia (http://superbiorezonans.9bb.ru/)

In electromagnetism, displacement current is a quantity appearing in Maxwell's equations that is defined in terms of the rate of change of electric displacement field. Displacement current has the units of electric current density, and it has an associated magnetic field just as actual currents do.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current

So to be or not to be ??

What kind of current flowing through the capacitor - for example ....

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6833&d=1224027935

If you know answer on this you will know what kind of signals (currents) flow through unbalanced cylindrical capacitor - and what kind of devices represent such capacitor with one bigger and one smaller plate ( for example from gold) !!


Astalavista GEO !!
Enjoykin4

and if i don't know the answer????
I did n't find any answer about this type of antenna.

Geo
02-25-2016, 05:45 AM
Please read the basic rules of the forum:
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10526

Especially the part where it says: "Personal attacks and taunts will not be tolerated."

Please take this as a warning. :nono:


Come on Qiaozhi, Carl was more flexible :cool:

:)

nelson
02-25-2016, 03:43 PM
Hi Geo

Has i mention long time ago, one of the clues for this kind of antennas, is to make them shorter and efective too for TX and RX.

Here i m sending a link to a homebrew antenna called Isotron. This cantenna can be found on lots of web sites, in homebrew versions and also factory versión.

This antenna has been build be me many many times for diferent ham radio bands, and his performance is good compared to a full dipole.

I had been working with antennas for more than 30 years, and my tools are, antenna simulation softwares, lots of field test and experimentation, and also getting feedback from Isotron antenna users.

Now the problem is that, i never found the correct frequency to work with my LRL´S, so this complicate a good antenna design that works on the correct frecuencia at his best performance.

http://www.i1wqrlinkradio.com/antype/ch32/chiave1766.htm

Of course there are other small models of antennas that can be calculated to work on the Khz´s spectrum

From what i remember (before many many years) The capacitance from disk don't receives signal but make a short antenna to works as bigger. But i don't remember this time where i have read that IGA-1 works at low frequences, so who is the job of this small antenna?????

:???::???:

Qiaozhi
02-25-2016, 10:30 PM
Come on Qiaozhi, Carl was more flexible :cool:

:)
Don't worry. I'm not about to start banning anyone.

I just wanted to remind Enjoykin4 about the forum rules, especially as I've received some complaints about racist comments.

WM6
02-25-2016, 11:03 PM
You cannot escape from physic, using means of those same physic, from which you wish to escape.

You can change one component of antenna over other (par example capacitive component over inductive), but you still remain in physical world of antennas.

You can change antenna name to Magictrone, it will be still (probably very bad) antenna only.

The medieval gold shortcuts seekers have used alchemist concoctions, nowadays gold shortcuts seekers are prone to using quasi-electronic concoctions like this:

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6833&d=1224027935

Results are the same: increased escape from reality and thereby reducing the possibility of discover and use real existing paths to the goal.

To preserve dreams we do not need to go completely out of reality.

WM6
02-25-2016, 11:45 PM
Thanks for pattent but i can't translate it... :angry:

Google can (somehow of course - you need first to go trough JPG OCR):

MINISTRY OF EDUCATION
AND SCIENCE OF UKRAINE o "and C" given "Eid
VIDPOVIDZLNIST
State Department 'trap
INTELLECTUAL patent patent
Ownership of utility model

(54) SLOSIB ASSESSMENT ELECTROMAGNETIC LOLYA OBJECTS animate and inanimate nature
February 1
(21) 0200904904 carry out the measurements in the range of extra-long
(22) 18.05.2009 waves in a broad frequency range, without allocation
(24) 26.10.2009 frequency component as well as an assessment parameter field
(46) 26.10.2009, Byulmh 20, 2009 using amplitude changes
(72) Alexey Andreev, Bulls charge on which is judged on the nature of the change electrodes
Sergey, Demyanova valence ferromagnetic field object in space, but as prykonfihuratsiyu OOZES ALEKSANDROVICh ymalnyy electrode sensor is used that
(73) Alexey Andreev allows you to quickly change it
(57) 1. Assessment method electromagnetic field volume- depending on external conditions.
ing animate and inanimate, including vymitym- 2. The method according to claim 1, characterized in that the measurement of the surface of the object spatial development enti- ties carried out on sections of the space envi-
separation of electric charge. lo measurement object, and each intersection build
exercise due to the fact that the distance of the measured curve equipotential surface
receiving electrode base object and setting off.
measure its charge, wherein

The invention relates to medicine, can determine the biological status change
medical equipment, geophysics, geophysical techniques, and man at the micro level.
can be used to diagnose pathological research for inanimate objects vinyh predpatolohichnyh states and the presence of live objects houses heoelektrorozvidky way that is
families as a means poperednoyidiahnostyky may also fact that the signals recorded electrical component
be used to study objects nezhy- natural electromagnetic field of the Earth
ing nature, such as geophysical studies (EEMPZ), using special devices
Jenny and underground anomalies in the form of development of all registered allocate spectrum. scholomiv, water flows, soil irregularities, the least one narrow bandwidth. In addition,
underground structures. narrow band of spectrum allocated checked

At this time, theoretically grounded and exports simultaneously and in parallel on the parallel channel
experimentally proved that the livelihoods of crystals and then spend amplitude comparison ibudyakoyi biological system. including human modulation variations in the time domain vsihdyny accompanied by very weak electromagnetic signals in narrow bands together.
nitnymy fluctuations in a wide range dovsuti closest in technical and rezhyn waves from super-long to ultra, results, achieved, there is a way to assess electrodes
which is the source of cells, organs, systems and or- ferromagnetic object fields (RF patent Mo2118124.
hanizm in general. Ab1Vb IPC / 05, publ. 27.08.1998), which is

There radiometric methods for registration is that above the measured object spaces
UHF electromagnetic waves and San ditches distribution of electric charge. Measurement
tymetrovoyu range, based on a measured engaged by it. that ob'ryuvannya away from sensitive receivers, radiometers position of the object receiving electrode and vymiryu elektromahnitnoho fields emitted tion fo charge. Measurements carried out in the range
-governmental sources that lie deep in the zone orhaniz- extra-long radio waves on the noise component
E. They may be inflammation, bruising, electric charge electrode for receiving
the formation of malignant, festering processes, etc., is the fact that receiving a signal from the presence of noise
processes. characterizing the structural changes bio- yomnoho electrode allocate frequency component
logical human condition. Radiometric methods are not at a fixed frequency of the noise signal fluctuation charge receiving electrode. but as an option




3 45 071 4
Field evaluation using phase value allows you to quickly change its configuration
shift between a dedicated frequency components and opposition depending on external conditions.
rnym signals of the same frequency, and configuration, measurement is carried out on sections spaces
location and shape of the object relative py curves around the object, and each intersection
parameter estimation field trial availability, the students of building equipotential curve surface measurement
Pigna localization and pathology. vanoho parameter field.

The disadvantage of the known method with strong dependence Use as evaluation parameter field
ness of ambient humidity, changes in amplitude characteristic allows charge
solar activity, constant zeroing in testimony to perform a quantitative assessment of electromagnetic continue
process, work quality mode indications la object and to monitor continuous
not allowing to obtain quantitative results on the mode of recording directly on the recording
miryuvan. device.

A method allows to perform measurements Measurement range super-long waves of
ing objects of nature when the subject realty wide range of frequencies without providing frequency
myy and moving electrode receiving because Noah component allows to get result 3
if a place can exist ekvipote- measurement precision estimation electromagnetic fields
ntsialni surface of different sources, such monitor- allowing to detect its dependence on state
Torah computer system unit, other unknown and functioning of internal organs and tissues
Objects that have a charge, then the measurement medium body.
ments are likely to fix these ekvipo- Use as a receiving electrode
tentsialni surface and sensor surface is not equipotential special design allows operaty-
of the object. vno change its configuration depending on zov-

In addition, diagnostic features are not clearly defined nishnih conditions that eliminates dependence
Cheney, because the practical implementation of the known method of humidity and solar activity.
determining the biological condition of man is quite electromagnetic proposed method estimates
complex. Field object animate and inanimate based

In addition, the study of inanimate objects on a topological analysis equipotential returned
nature known method is complicated and maloprydat- hon stationary electromagnetic field
it has low maintenance features, so surrounding the object. As an option, in which are built
requiring parallel division received signal equipotential surface used amp-
guiding channel into many parallel channels, ie zasto- litudna characteristic changes in the charge on which dried
ing Spectrum, dyat permanent record of the nature of the electromagnetic field changes
signals in all channels, storing them in memory and object in space.
comparison between themselves and with each other, that in this way, to assess the electromagnetic
continuous monitoring represents quite composed object field of wildlife, the use of biological objects
dne task and requires constant calibration Tunney as an extra-long working range pa-
tion by empirical data every time you BASED diohvyl 0.02 to 20kHz allows vidokremy-
meaning a new type of heterogeneity. tys of physiological rhythmic and fleeting

The basis of invention the task processes (such as ECG, EEG, CWP, EMG, circadian
improving the way through the implementation may rhythms, etc.) and judge the stationary field,
zhlyvosti assessment of surface electromagnetic field and is slowly changing the overall mark
object by using amplitude characterized the functional and morphological state bodies
terystyky change battery that provides for increasing tissues and systems of the body and reacts to medy-
qualitative assessments of the research object and medicamental and other therapeutic effects. At
extend the functionality of this topological analysis method for configuration ekvipoten-
Bu that allows a single device cial surfaces of the field to evaluate how pro-
measure objects animate and inanimate nature, genertic potential defenses for absence
ensures an adequate level of information content and relatively size equipotential surfaces so
reliability for reliable analytical process. and localization of pathological lesions in roztashuvan-

The problem is solved by the fact that nude depressions and bulges in the picture ekvipotentsia-
method of evaluation of electromagnetic field on the surface of objects flax body object.
animate and inanimate nature, which consists in essence that the proposed invention explained
above the measured object spatial nyuyetsya the drawings:
distribution of electric charge measurements carried on the Figure 1 - shows the type of sensor in section;
nyuyut due to the fact that the distance from the object in Figure 2 - shows the connection of the presence
receiving electrode position and measure the appliances for the process evaluation to measure;
his charge, according to the invention, measured in Figure 3 - shows the performance measurement
enti- ties engaged in a range of super-long waves, electromagnetic fields ing the presence of live object
in a wide range of frequencies without providing frequency families.
tnoyi component, as well as the evaluation parameter estimation method field electromagnetic field facility
using amplitude changes animate and inanimate exercise such con-
the charge on which is judged on the nature of the change sobom electrode.
ferromagnetic field object in space, as well as sensor 1 (Figure 1), consisting of korpusa-
receiving electrode sensor using the handset 2, 3 and telescopic antenna wards 4 and

associated with emitter follower 5 (Figure 2)



45 071 5 6
broadband amplifier 6 rectifier clusters rain so that lesser depth corresponds
Kadoma indicator 7 and 8, in which the judge hara- gives a sharp change of phase shift (ie
kter changes in the electromagnetic field of the object of living and less time). Even small deviation stable
inanimate nature. Lenny is located on the vertical phase of the received signal from the reference,
rod 9 (Figure 3) and is able to move through the integral value of the phase shift increases and
height for assessing biological objects 10 for the final time can reach maximum values
The antenna sensor 1 3 position relative to Chen. Assessment of phase shift is executed
selected object point 10 on a permanent (for all Relief in this case is actually the time achievements
Chalk) distance and carry out measurements in the range of integral phase shift certain size (eg
super-long waves in a wide frequency range. without example. saturation value integrator), or
allocation of frequency component. as well as the evaluation of the integral value for a fixed period of time.
parameter fields using amplitude hara- To improve reliability, especially in the majority
kterystyku change charge Shih sensors recorded the depth of irregularities, possible
com 1. su re passing the border division in reverse
10 biological objects approaching a certain distance towards tion. To do this, after the first transition
the sensor or away from it, or carried across the border dividing perform a second compensation
nyuyetsya move the antenna 3 at a constant velocity of consideration-interference background and adoptive transfer
cyst along the straight line connecting the antenna 3 and antenna facility in the opposite direction. re-fixing
10 toward the object, while changing the phase shift when passing the border continue
supervision amplitude values ​​characterize work of media.
changes in the joints of charge to register. Compared to known methods, including chy-
Thus there is the value of the amplitude SLI prototype. the proposed evaluation method
cation characteristics change charge. reyestruyet- that the electromagnetic field of the object animate and inanimate
Xia. When driving equipotential surface nature has the following advantages:
(Surfaces) sensor observed jump - broader functionality and diagnose
amplitude at a certain distance from the sensor (which fik- istic opportunities through simplicity performed
suyetsya). Since the number of objects have ekvipo- emyh operations. carried out in the proposed
tentsialnyh surfaces, the proposed method tional manner and on the terms offered,
allows fix them with some frequency, which allows objects of nature in type
enables a higher accuracy interval localize cell lesions, functional exercise
pretuvaty results. The process of measuring nally morphological violations of organs and tissues
tion is performed continuously, unlike the compound body;
method for prototype, where each operation - neinvazyvnistyu, conducted bezkontaktnistyu
ekvipotentsialnoyipoverhni sensor area, neob- measurements and a high degree of environmental friendliness,
Do bear in zeroing the device. as in the evaluation field is not vykorystovuyut-
Building a equipotential curve necessary to be any impact on the living object, including
tion intersection can be done on a large number of electromagnetic;
points each predetermined degree of dispersion - high speed inspection. ease
kretnosti that it is appropriate to do the automation identification of infectious diseases and high security
Measurement and construction topograms. This and suitability Peko;
relat received experimental data. pro - high precision electromagnetic assessment
ektsiyi defects (cavities or zdyman) usually hnitnoho field that allows a thin diah-
coincide with the localization of abnormal cells. nostyku by the proposed assessment
Measurement inanimate object state performed research object animate and inanimate
etsya identical antenna provides for the movement of nature by analyzing surface geometry levels
vigils towards a continuously zchytuyuchy tion phase;
The value of the integral phase shift. and on - wider functional mozhlyvo-
a sudden change in the value of fixed transition from one styamy that allow the use of way to
medium to another, but the speed of this change BASED assess the efficiency of diagnosis and tsilesp-
defines the depth of the border dividing environ- ryamovanoho control them.
2 4 3

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Geo
02-26-2016, 04:27 AM
Thanks Jaka!!!

:)

Geo
02-26-2016, 04:39 AM
Hi Geo

Has i mention long time ago, one of the clues for this kind of antennas, is to make them shorter and efective too for TX and RX.

Here i m sending a link to a homebrew antenna called Isotron. This cantenna can be found on lots of web sites, in homebrew versions and also factory versión.

This antenna has been build be me many many times for diferent ham radio bands, and his performance is good compared to a full dipole.

I had been working with antennas for more than 30 years, and my tools are, antenna simulation softwares, lots of field test and experimentation, and also getting feedback from Isotron antenna users.

Now the problem is that, i never found the correct frequency to work with my LRL´S, so this complicate a good antenna design that works on the correct frecuencia at his best performance.

http://www.i1wqrlinkradio.com/antype/ch32/chiave1766.htm

Of course there are other small models of antennas that can be calculated to work on the Khz´s spectrum

Hi Nelson, how are you?
From my experiments, there is not any special frequency that needed to catch the phenomeno.

Geo
02-26-2016, 04:42 AM
Don't worry. I'm not about to start banning anyone.

I just wanted to remind Enjoykin4 about the forum rules, especially as I've received some complaints about racist comments.

Hi Qiaozhi.
I thought would answer Carl but i made mistake:lol:

moving
02-26-2016, 02:47 PM
Dear friends, sorry for English and 'google translator, I am going to write to you because' a few days ago I headed into the countryside to breathe oxygenated air with my dog, at some point there was a guy who was taking pictures in a field grano.Era a beautiful sunny day to the 14,30.incuriosito I approach the guy and kindly ask him why sprang shut picture green wheat, wondering if it was a wildlife photographer, he replied that it was an electrical engineer with archeologia.io of hobbies I replied that we had a common passion, and that the place where we were was an ancient Roman site, he calmly I mention 'of things in more' to riguardo.Dopo a bit 'dialog, after a little confidence, I played the part of the good student who wants to discover and be instructed by the master, and he as good teacher let me explain 'what segue.La camera, he was holding in reality' was a camera, he had made changes on it electronic circuit to filter waves of a certain length and to analyze other especially electromagnetic waves emanating from tombe.Mi ancient terracotta bricks said he was particularly sensitive to signals from artifacts in gold when oxidized from the ground, he showed me a photo which clearly could see a rectangular outline of a buried tomb approximately 1'5 meters deep ', said that the amendment was very similar to some satellites orbita.Inoltre, according to his theory, electromagnetic waves are bombarded continuously, but natural ones, are the most 'complex and more' weak, do not forget that in turn are influenced by many external factors, underground faults, proximity to volcanoes, underground rivers, power lines etc ... but what makes them extremely captabili by humans and tools, are the lunari.Adesso phases since they are not an electronic engineer and physicist, I do not know if you told me hoaxes, but since the guy had nothing to sell and nothing to ask, and I 'seemed very sincero.Siccome follow this magnificent forum, I' seemed right to provide this experience, even if we discuss a Russian LRL, I do not think I came off topic 'cause we're talking to pick up and recognize the various masks wearing energy just to hide from the hunting of the human mind.

FrancoItaly
02-26-2016, 04:00 PM
Hy moving,
I think you're Italian like me, it is interesting what you say. Probably it is a camera modified to be sensitive only to infrared. The change is quite simple, just remove the filter that removes infrared and put a filter which passes only infrared. A few years ago in a book a guy said that gold buried by time exudes a kind of halo visible with infrared. Even some members of this forum have made lrls that at least in part using infrared.
Best Regards

moving
02-26-2016, 05:38 PM
Hello franc, are Italian like you, I do not think it's a simple camera, google translator has made a mistake, I wrote in Italian termica.Penso camera that such a thing is feasible, and if so 'was, if you really could achieve a system capable of displaying exhibits, artifacts, materials based on their electromagnetic aura, then I think many detector systems used today, could safely go to landfill.

moving
02-26-2016, 11:12 PM
I believe that school study gives us almost everything, what 'the man knows everything' that ancient and modern men have dedicated their lives to scoprire.Ma There are so obvious things, newspapers and hidden that we can not yet to capire.Chi built the pyramids? What 'their function? For a colossal structure of this kind must be a funzione.Uomini have dedicated their lives to their study and we are hammering on the size, planetary alignments etc, etc. but what is this structural contraption ???? Today we entrust a mystery to religion for an answer that gives peace to our mind so that 'the stop to excite neurons, for many, unfortunately, that's okay' but for a few no.Sono those few who do not bend, they can not give in to a natural genetic makeup to go almost controcorrente.Qualcuno could define nonconformists, crazy, but I'm sure, and 'this the right way to find out and expose what' lurks our occhi.Credo that in addition to study and learn about some phenomena, then to understand others as those discussed in this forum, please also be good dreamers with great madness, not just sudiare what 'that we know of already'.

WM6
02-27-2016, 01:42 PM
Hello franc, are Italian like you, I do not think it's a simple camera, google translator has made a mistake, I wrote in Italian termica.Penso camera that such a thing is feasible, and if so 'was, if you really could achieve a system capable of displaying exhibits, artifacts, materials based on their electromagnetic aura, then I think many detector systems used today, could safely go to landfill.

It is about so called Thermal-Infrared-Camera.
Thermal-Infrared is still in infrared spectrum but moved more in spectrum of what we sense as heat.
So it is more sensitive to temperature differences of observed objects.

It is possible to transform your I-Phone or Android phone to such thermal camera by cheaper accessory than to buy dedicated Thermal Camera.

http://thermalimaging-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/seek-thermal-camera-accessory.jpg

There is no magic detection by this camera. ... despite it is possible to detect
very shallow buried metallic (as gold, silver, copper etc.) deposits under specific conditions.
"Specific conditions" appear at bigger changes of outer temperature as par example right after sunset.
At this time point accumulated heat of metallic deposits under soil radiate through soil layer above and sensitive Thermal Camera is able to detect temperature difference.
Till temperatures of soil and metallic deposits become equalized.
It is interesting and worth to experiment using thermal camera.

Mike(Mont)
02-27-2016, 03:13 PM
I have one. Don't expect to find and gold with it. I know people said you can find gold after sunset, but it has to be dry sand. Close to the equator would probably be better. High sun and quick sunset. Don't waste your money unless you have some other use for it.

I thought I posted this a while back. i was in my yard after sunset. I noticed a rectangular hot spot so I reached down to touch it and it was wet. Dog urine! :lol:

enjoykin4
02-27-2016, 06:09 PM
I have one. Don't expect to find and gold with it. I know people said you can find gold after sunset, but it has to be dry sand. Close to the equator would probably be better. High sun and quick sunset. Don't waste your money unless you have some other use for it.

I thought I posted this a while back. i was in my yard after sunset. I noticed a rectangular hot spot so I reached down to touch it and it was wet. Dog urine! :lol:


Hello Mike(mont)

I am admire MIke. How do you dare to said any word again Gayropian WMGURU6 ??

It is not under the rule of parasitic society !! :D

Yes my freind Mike(MOnt), you are very brave man !! I respect it. :)


You have enough courage to stand agains WM6GURU6 final judge and reveal some unknown secrets about newest Shnobel-Einsdtain toy called @ Thermal-Infrared-Camera for disovering GOLD deposits deep in uderground@ . @Thermal-Infrared-Camera@. -In translate to American-English is Therma BS - or Bull S.....

So my friedn Mike keep your life up. You got it !! If WMGuru6 said @High Technological BS (Bull S.....) is remarkable toy to discover all LTBG long time burried GOLD with Android BS (Bull S....) phoneit is a FINAL FRONTIER FOR HUMAN *OR NON-HUMAN) AWERNESS.

It is simple - higher than that simple does not exist.


So MIKE - don't think wioth own mind - JUST BELIVE IN WMGURU6 JUDGE !!

Ig WM6GURU said @THE REALITY @ is that only Fu....BS ANDROUID BS phone with F.... CDMA coding algorythm and spread spectrum facility can detect and reveal all burried GOLD - tht is it. BUY ANDROID FU....BS..... And be HAPPY !!


With it you will find a lot of FU......BS GOLD in WMGURU6 rese dreams.



Ps. Mike KEEP THE Slovenian which bring a golden gidft (in AN -DROID parts).

Best Regards from Enjoykin4 - (simple Russian man).

ps2 : ASTA LA VISTA MUCHACHOS WMGURU6 |! :cool:

WM6
02-27-2016, 07:44 PM
I have one. Don't expect to find and gold with it. I know people said you can find gold after sunset, but it has to be dry sand. Close to the equator would probably be better. High sun and quick sunset. Don't waste your money unless you have some other use for it.

I thought I posted this a while back. i was in my yard after sunset. I noticed a rectangular hot spot so I reached down to touch it and it was wet. Dog urine! :lol:

Probably nothing is excluded, from possible findings of gold deposits (shallow of course) to dog urine.

Infrared and thermal cameras are on regular use by archaeological science. There are a lot of articles that prove this:

https://www.elsevier.com/connect/drones-are-the-latest-archaeological-tool

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2014/12/start/scanning-the-past

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_sensing_%28archaeology%29

Mike(Mont)
02-28-2016, 03:06 AM
Yeah, if it looks like a cinnamon roll, better leave it alone! :lol:

Those Seeks are nice little thermal cameras. You won't find anything better for the money. Actually the black mode seems to have finer resolution than the color modes.

moving
02-28-2016, 04:27 PM
http://www.antikitera.net/news.asp?id=10547

ionios
03-01-2016, 08:13 PM
Hello, I am sorry i don't like to change the post,
but some guy's tooking about photos and cameras.

BENZINAS
03-02-2016, 06:25 PM
Hello, I am sorry i don't like to change the post,
but some guy's tooking about photos and cameras.

hi panagioti , how things going down there ?

ionios
03-02-2016, 06:59 PM
Good evening, how are you ?
we haven't tolk sense a long time,
everything goes well,
what happen with psahtiria,
I try to open it but it is not open,
have you got any news?

enjoykin4
03-05-2016, 10:44 PM
http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/6/2/IGA1antenn_4965251_20980362.png

Geo
03-06-2016, 05:39 AM
do you have more details for antenna???

Sneshko
03-06-2016, 09:52 AM
http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/6/2/IGA1antenn_4965251_20980362.png

Dear enjoykin4!
Thank you for this schematic to share with us!
Very interesting solution for this type of antenna.
Please for more details (value capacitor, value for L, capacitance antenna, its inductance, resistance ...).
Thanks in advance!
Regards!
Sneshko

WM6
03-07-2016, 03:07 PM
The only very long range from buying ИГА-1 Long Range Locator's become noses of naive buyers.

How this non working antenna is build, is evident and present at first sight and there is no need for such block (in fact bluff) scheme.

If this contraptions could work as long-range-something, their promoter on this forum would build it for himself and would not even start begging at this forum for LRL schematics.

http://i63.tinypic.com/s4xs1c.jpg

Mike(Mont)
03-07-2016, 05:30 PM
Yeah, lawyers and skeptics are good at finding fault in just about anything. :lol: "You can always tell a pioneer by the arrows in his back." "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." Sometimes just one minor detail can make a project blossom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUXCaXSTmns

"But someday I'm sure you're gonna know the cost
'Cause for everything you win there's something lost"

enjoykin4
03-07-2016, 05:35 PM
YOU ARE VERY EVIL AND IGNORANT MAN MR.WM6
YOU HAVE PUT A LOT OF YOUR MIND GARBADGE HERE.
IT WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED ANY MORE !! :angry:

I did not expected such kind of BEAST'S BEHAVOUR FROM AN SLOVENIA PERSON.

I really hope other Slovenian people are not like you in any aspects.

THIS IS END OF OUR CONVERSATION. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH NORMAL PEOPLE NOT WITH EVIL AND PARANOIC BEAST !!

enjoykin4
03-07-2016, 05:54 PM
http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/_si/0/s72172510.jpghttp://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/_si/0/s43436643.jpg

VEGA-1 LRL locator - very similar to IGA-1

All info here:

http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua

Reference mannual on Russian
http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/load/instrukcija_po_ehkspluatacii_vega_11_mp1/1-1-0-3

R.M. on English
http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/load/operation_manual_vega_11_mp1/1-1-0-10

http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/_si/0/s30665198.jpghttp://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/_si/0/s38178052.jpg

PS: In same class of IGA-1 and VEGA-1 exist long range locator RADA-7 !!

enjoykin4
03-07-2016, 06:21 PM
Dear Sheshko

Will be very hard to you finding specific operation amplifier 140УД13 with modulator/demodulator stage in Serbia and Europe. Even in Russia beacuse i think they made it only for military purposes (for military temperature range).

I will try finding American analog - same or similar OP from Analog devices, Linear Technology or National.

Meanwhile download this EE-book with some extraordinar constructions (schematics) with specific OP circuit like 140УД13.


Интегральная электроника в измерительных устройствах Автор Гутников В.С. (http://padabum.com/search.php?author=%D0%93%D1%83%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D 0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%20%D0%92.%D0%A1.)Издательство Энергоатомиздат Год 1988 Метки измерительные устройства (http://padabum.com/search.php?tag=%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B 8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5%20%D1% 83%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2 %D0%B0)электроника (http://padabum.com/search.php?tag=%D1%8D%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%8 0%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0)
Размер 3.06 МБ

СКАЧАТЬ ТУТ:
http://padabum.com/x.php?id=3041

NIGMA SEARCH 140УД13.
http://nigma.ru/?s=140%D0%A3%D0%9413&t=web&rg=t%3D0_c%3D%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F_&rg_view=&yn=1&gl=1&rm=1&ms=1&yh=1&av=1&nm=1&lang=all&srt=0&sf=1


Best Regards
enjoykin4

WM6
03-07-2016, 07:00 PM
http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/_si/0/s72172510.jpghttp://vegapribor.ucoz.ua/_si/0/s43436643.jpg

VEGA-1 LRL locator - very similar to IGA-1

All info here:

http://vegapribor.ucoz.ua



One more Russian LRL contraptions.

To name this scam-crap-krivoj-rod according Jurij Vega is pure insult for this great Slovenian scientist.

Sneshko
03-07-2016, 07:17 PM
Dear enjoykin4!
Thank you very much for information & links!
Yes, I understand the Russian language, or do not speak good.
Да, я понимаю русский язык, но я не говорю хорошо.
I'm no electrical engineer. The menu is just a hobby electronics. It will take me some time to review all the data and literature ...
Soon I'll get back to you on your e-mail for further cooperation.
By when - greetings from Serbia! :)
Sneshko

WM6
03-07-2016, 09:47 PM
Yeah, lawyers and skeptics are good at finding fault in just about anything. :lol: "You can always tell a pioneer by the arrows in his back." "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." Sometimes just one minor detail can make a project blossom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUXCaXSTmns

"But someday I'm sure you're gonna know the cost
'Cause for everything you win there's something lost"

Agree.

Most costly, could be time of life, lost for hope, that we, as time passes, regret.

dragomir
03-08-2016, 05:41 AM
IGA-1 bought 7 years ago and it has paid € 2.000. It turned out that my home work, anomaly detection, but in the fields and woods, nothing grabs. Some years have passed and I gave the device a friend who lives 250 km. from me . In this device he worked. This device can only work in certain places. Why is that? I live on the beach and humidity is too high, the soil is salty and additional land to me is very mineralized. What is the reason ?

WM6
03-08-2016, 11:46 AM
Reason is in fact, that this IGA-1 crap don't work at all.
It works for producer and seller only - which can find gold in pockets of naive buyers (€ 2.000 for such crap, what a craziness).

All others is user imagination accompanied with very known excuses why such contraptions don't work.

Pushing electronic circuits to work as dowsing rod is pure nonsense. It is better to use real wooden dowsing rod, where you have possibilities to proper tune wooden dowsing rod resonating antenna to your environment and personal conditions (mean to: humidity, excess vibrations, negative feelings, to much greens, to low greens, to bent geomagnetism, to much geopathogenic, solar eruptions, to white clouds, to gray clouds, wrong continent, wrong state, wrong county, to near police stations, to far from first church, to high mountains, to "krivaya" roads, to big IGA-1 user "mudozvon" etc. etc.)

enjoykin4
03-08-2016, 12:52 PM
do you have more details for antenna???

HI Geo. Antenna was made fom highly polished brass disks. Diameter of smaller 5 cm bigger 15 cm. Smaller disk was connected via small diameter brass rod at input of 140УД13 OP amplifier midulator/demodulator while bigger disk was grounded. If you could find oxigen-free copper disks try as capacitive antenna for all kind of LRLs.

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/0/4/enjoykin4g_1881261_21015304.gif

Best regards enjoykin4

enjoykin4
03-08-2016, 01:38 PM
What is Scalar longitudinal wave ??

WATCH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYo2cQjgQjY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYo2cQjgQjY&feature=player_embedded)

Generators of a "high-penetrating emission (SCALAR WAVES)" and the detector IGA-1: Review

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/0/4/6/SergeiKPNG_4435248_21016046.png

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/0/4/6/SergeiKPNG_4435248_21016046.pnghttp://i10.pixs.ru/storage/0/4/6/SergeiKPNG_4435248_21016046.png
Gold also do high-penetrating emission.


Global name for LRL PHENOMENON IS: SCALAR-HIGH-PENETRATING-EMISSION.

WM6
03-08-2016, 04:41 PM
Gold also do high-penetrating emission.



I am sure that gold emissions can penetrate (high) in dreamworld of wishful dreamer.


Why you need to mess scalar waves with practically high-nonexistent emission of deep buried gold? Gold can only emit something, if you heat it at say 300°C.

Even if gold is able to emit something, there are emission cacophony from material world all around us, much stronger that those of small pieces of buried gold that will suppress those supposed gold emission.

And even if gold emit at (supposed) gold frequency, there is nowhere to find in nature gold in pure form. All gold found are in thousand forms of different gold alloy. So what should be frequencies of all those gold alloys?

https://youtu.be/HmVSoJ1F0eQ

dragomir
03-08-2016, 04:52 PM
Colleague WM6 want to say that my land where I live device does not work, but elsewhere in the interior, away from the sea is no problem. My IGA -1 discovered an underground river at a depth of 75 meters. I mean the device is working, but not everywhere.

Geo
03-08-2016, 05:25 PM
HI Geo. Antenna was made fom highly polished brass disks. Diameter of smaller 5 cm bigger 15 cm. Smaller disk was connected via small diameter brass rod at input of 140УД13 OP amplifier midulator/demodulator while bigger disk was grounded. If you could find oxigen-free copper disks try as capacitive antenna for all kind of LRLs.

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/0/4/enjoykin4g_1881261_21015304.gif

Best regards enjoykin4


Thank you enjoy.

BTW.. what are the oxigen-free copper??

Regards

WM6
03-08-2016, 05:30 PM
Colleague WM6 want to say that my land where I live device does not work, but elsewhere in the interior, away from the sea is no problem. My IGA -1 discovered an underground river at a depth of 75 meters. I mean the device is working, but not everywhere.

It is fine, dragomir, that IGA-1 works sometimes for you.
How do you know that there was river detected at 75m of depth?
Is there a natural cave to this river or bored hole for water supply?

dragomir
03-08-2016, 05:39 PM
Drilling and extraction of water from the ground.

dragomir
03-08-2016, 05:51 PM
Geo Antenna IGA- 1've seen made of polished stainless steel. And I've done and works well, but it must be very well polished.

WM6
03-08-2016, 07:33 PM
Drilling and extraction of water from the ground.

After you detect underground river with your IGA-1 device?

moving
03-08-2016, 11:51 PM
Hello everyone, This is a discussion, I agree with wm6, there are too many stray signals around, I mean the artificial signals that suppress the natural ones, I do not believe that you can create a passive device capable of picking up signals from buried gold. IgA1 with great respect for the excellent researchers and Russian scientists believe it is a detector of static that might work well in the absence of artificial noise, if it is in a cone shade, or if the searched signal 'quite as strong as that generated by sotterraneo.Credo water in addition that it is possible to pick up a signal buried gold if immersed in a Faraday cage to the exclusion of various frequencies or in a special situation as a pioggia.Penso day that a passive type LRL technology would have had great success some years ago when we were not bombarded with artificial signals so 'frequent and potenti.penso that maybe a good choice makes Francoitaly when rumored to be interested in infrared, trying to associate his LRL spectrum ottico.L'infrared as far as I I know, and 'a very powerful energy output, can penetrate the soil and dig the rocks in search of a signal with a suitable filter electronic circuit, can' direct us to the request source. If you remember my experience told in this forum about the this with a modified thermal camera, now I speak of a similar told by a man who according to him, has lost a treasure for his negligenza.Sembra the guy equipped with a thermal camera took photos with his wife in July in the shade of a large oak tree to see parts of the colored wife's body based on the temperature raggiunta.Dopo having viewed the picture, the famous guy 'an isolated spot warm enough on the trunk oak where the woman was appoggiata.Incuriosito I investigate 'on the trunk without noticing anything special thinking it could be a beam of sunlight from foglie.Passati not stopped a few months, with the arrival of the rainy season that I come from you and 'moved in late November, it seems that lightning has incinerated the tree, because the oak tree and' a strong and robust tree's trunk has withstood the fire for meta'.Un ladies around in the countryside in search of snails, with early morning sun rays, known 'something shimmering in the distance, curiously approached' and guess what ', I find' a substantial amount 'of time pensolante gold from the trunk of the oak struck by fulmine.La oak and' an ancient tree, over there and 'known to history the presence of brigands who used to hide in the trees loot slots, I think it is pure verita'.Come well know the lightning and' an electric shock so 'as a capacitor, but then why that oak and not other as the place 'full of oaks and other trees? Maybe gold has negatively charged the tree as a negative armor of an electrolytic capacitor in order to give birth to the download? If you think that my speech is illogical, accept criticism and different because 'comments I think it is in resonance with the purpose of this forum dVE also critical of other members, newsworthy and cultura.Scusate my English.

enjoykin4
03-09-2016, 01:54 AM
Ciao Signore Franco !!

Make attention on this amazing Russian Cold War bug sniffer circuit called "СИНИЦА". This bird is СИНИЦА- or "Cinciallegra", perfect bug hunter!! :)

http://www.photoforum.ru/f/photo/000/520/520087_30.jpg

Cinciallegra" or Great tit.

http://www.techlib.com/electronics/graphics/sinitsa.gif

This modification was one based on original "The Sinitsa" design.

It is extraordinary universal receiver/demodulator or in other words universal bug sniffer. Signore Franco, your LRL detector is 100500% compatibile with this "Sinitsa" Cold War secret device. But what Russian and American scientist have not got any idea even in their dreams is that this device can detect gold, silver, nobble metals or simple say it is pure Franco LR - which i want to admit WORK PERFECT. Yes detect GOLD, SILVER, COPPER metals. So my dear Franco you have rediscovered original "The Sinitsa" device. You are pretty good EE - and i respect it.
Franco to ask: Maybe you had worked for KGB long time ago... in cold war ??.... Just kidding :lol: .....

So...

At this modified schematic injected carrier frequency is square wave, (freq. is something higher than hearing audio range - while in original was pure sinus wave -variabile like in your LRL ), is injected into the incoming unknown signal - let's say Gold target signal and processed to produce a host of sidebands. Final result of amazing signal injection and demodulation is that just any signal, even an empty (non-modulated) dead-carrier , will produce a detectable audio output or in your case via comparators led blinking as you approach golden target.

Signore Franco let's make together perfect Gold discrimination at this circuit - further known as FrancoItaly Sinitsa 2016. !! :)

ps: Signore Franco remember our firend Esteban schematic with diode in series with stylus antenna and two additional stylus rods in parallel to main which were grounded on their end via 560 om and 680 om resistors. I bet 100500% that highly polished brass or copper rods work perfect in this "Sinitsa" device. Maybe even IGA-1 capacitor antenna will work better. Just an idea for some builders. In any case lots of experiments need to be try here !!

Best regards
Enjoykin4

enjoykin4
03-09-2016, 02:25 AM
Thank you enjoy.

BTW.. what are the oxigen-free copper??

Regards


http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/0/4/enjoykin4g_1881261_21015304.gif

Hi Geo


Oxygen-free copper is copper without oxygen !! :)

Or it is a high conductivity copper alloy that have been electrolytically refined to reduce the level of oxygen in their inner structure to 0.001% or much below. In other words perfect conductor alloy ideal for IGA-1 capacitive disk antenna. :)

Best regards
Enjoykin4

WM6
03-09-2016, 03:27 AM
Ciao Signore Franco !!

Make attention on this amazing Russian Cold War bug sniffer circuit called "СИНИЦА". This bird is СИНИЦА- or "Cinciallegra", perfect bug hunter!! :)



Why spend at least €30.00 and hours of work for nerving raucous KGB "Cigumigu", if you can get modern broadband receiver, used by Russian FSB now, that incorporate frequency-meter (you know - you are searching for exact gold frequency) with display and high polished tunable antenna for €12.50?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41XLJ1W3L7L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

WM6
03-09-2016, 03:57 AM
BTW.. what are the oxigen-free copper??



Purified electrolytic copper - to expensive to spend it for such funny crap as IGA-1.

But extremely durable as soldering tip - try it.

Geo
03-09-2016, 04:59 AM
Shows rare material for the local market of the small town I live.....

Anyway thanks for reply!:)

Geo
03-09-2016, 05:07 AM
Geo Antenna IGA- 1've seen made of polished stainless steel. And I've done and works well, but it must be very well polished.

Thanks Dragomir.
But here are my questions.
It is only an antenna, why must be very well polished or why must be from free-oxygene copper etc... IGA-1 works at VLF so why all these??? So long waves can't reflected at so small surface.
My lrls don't need special materials at antenna, the same with Franco's lrl.

:)

dragomir
03-09-2016, 05:11 AM
I think no matter what material is made antenna. The important thing is to be well polished. The device is very likely to capture photons, otherwise why would have to be polished discs? I at the beginning of the discussion I said that this device captures radiation from the core of the earth and silhouettes that form of what is under the ground near the surface. Where I live this radiation can not escape the surface of the earth. interfere and perhaps salt composition of the ground or mineralized ground. This is easily understood, approaching one hand near the antenna and device have to register When the reaction has there may be working, but when there is not. This happens because the aura of a man is excited by the radiation of the Earth's core and then captures.

FrancoItaly
03-09-2016, 09:33 AM
Hi enjoykin4,
about "FrancoItaly Sinitsa 2016" I must admit that the operating principle is the same but the frequency is too low, I've already done tests with frequencies around 60kHz but with negative results, it seems that the frequency most suitable is the one used in my LRL, about 100-150Mhz in the input resonant circuit and 2-10Mhz for the signal "modulated by the phenomenon". This does not mean that the phenomenon emits a signal on this frequency, it may be an already existing signal modulated maybe by a harmonic of the phenomenon.
Best Regards

Sneshko
03-09-2016, 12:18 PM
http://www.techlib.com/electronics/graphics/sinitsa.gif




Dear friends!
Complete "Sinica" project is here:
http://www.techlib.com/electronics/allband.htm
Regards!
Sneshko

Mike(Mont)
03-09-2016, 01:59 PM
Anybody know anything about this Russian device? ADGEX ELFE flashlight that claims to be charged by the earth's magnetic field. The "FE" in ELFE stands for free energy.

WM6
03-09-2016, 02:46 PM
about "FrancoItaly Sinitsa 2016" I must admit that the operating principle is the same



Sorry Franco, is not.

Your design has selectable input, while "Sinica" designs (as on link posted by Sneshko) are all unselectable broadband environment noise and interferences receiver.

Apart from that both are electronic circuit - this is important difference.

Correct term for Sinica is not "Hears anything" demodulating universal receiver but "Hears everything" demodulating universal receiver.

Sinica is able to detect something from vicinity of signal source only, nothing (in fact a lot of mess if put on gain) from distance. Nothing. This is how unelectable broadband receivers work.

Two Box or PI design are more "long range" than this noise and interferences receiver.

Or with words from Sneshko link:

"The Amazing All-Band Receiver is basically a diode detector (!) followed by a high-gain audio amplifier. This is not a multi-band receiver; it picks up everything at once! The detector uses a biased Schottky diode for excellent sensitivity and bandwidth; the detector will detect signals from below the AM broadcast band up to the microwave bands. The number of interesting signals is surprising; it is fun to drive around listening to the numerous strange sounds. "

Yes, it could be fun to catch all those "strange sounds", but of no use for long range detecting.

Mike(Mont)
03-09-2016, 02:56 PM
The skeptics are screaming about the ADGEX ELFE flashlight. They claim it is a fraud. One video shows the insides and there are no coils, electronics, whatsoever. Then someone says that video is a fake. So yeah, i don't believe skeptics. I would like to see some electronics or SOMETHING. And I've yet to read even one positive review.

WM6
03-09-2016, 05:40 PM
So yeah, i don't believe skeptics. I would like to see some electronics or SOMETHING.



Why you think, that incorporated electronic, is proof "per se", that things work?

Here you can find a lot of TI scientific electronic, but creation is still not able to detect something (even from vicinity, not to say from distance):

http://i65.tinypic.com/2yo7tqt.jpg


On other side, this environment-friendly approach, has some real potential:

http://i66.tinypic.com/5jvhut.gif

Mike(Mont)
03-09-2016, 06:59 PM
Okay, I stand corrected. :lol: That's offensive to the senses! Most LRL's are not intentionally fraudulent, they just don't work very well.

As for free power, I know there are devices that can pick up power near household wiring, and others that use radio stations to charge a capacitor. This ADGEX ELFE claims Schumann resonance.

Mike(Mont)
03-09-2016, 08:12 PM
As for that calculator, I've gone so far as it call it a skeptic hoax. It's that phony and so is the guy on t-net who pushes it. i call him a closet skeptic. :nono: And nothing has convinced my otherwise.

WM6
03-09-2016, 10:18 PM
And nothing has convinced my otherwise.

I even didn't try something like that.

I know that this is religious question for believers - so something unchangeable till the end of the world.

Geo
03-10-2016, 04:26 AM
So wich are the results????
IGA-1 works (detecting anomalies) or not????

:lol::lol:

Geo
03-10-2016, 04:31 AM
http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/0/4/enjoykin4g_1881261_21015304.gif

Hi Geo


Oxygen-free copper is copper without oxygen !! :)

Or it is a high conductivity copper alloy that have been electrolytically refined to reduce the level of oxygen in their inner structure to 0.001% or much below. In other words perfect conductor alloy ideal for IGA-1 capacitive disk antenna. :)

Best regards
Enjoykin4

I have read that on some models of IGA-1 inventor uses digital filter to discriminate between some anomalies.
Do you know anything about it??

Geo
03-10-2016, 05:58 PM
Hi Enjoy.
I collect info so to try it next winter that will have free time.
How can i understand if the anomaly is undergound water or cave???
This is the reason that i am looking for discrimination.....

Regards

WM6
03-10-2016, 07:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYo2cQjgQjY



What to say on this video.

In short: on more quasi-scientific bluff intended to impress and scam naive buyers.

Very Funny detail 1 :

Using abandoned handy Chinese cosmetic LED Color Light to prove scalar wave. Really great. Tesla is proud of you.

http://www.emersonww.com/Infrared185Pad.htm
http://skinessentials.biz/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/led-light-therapy.jpg


Extra funny detail 2 :

Close alternately flashing Color LED light in box and at the same time left generator cable, which works as antenna, outside box, is really great proof of scalar wave existence.

Proof worth great Russian strawberry sprout scientist Lysenko (his magician hands seen only in video):

http://i63.tinypic.com/11jqfjc.jpg


Serious conclusion on funny detail basis:

It is evident that author of video has serious intention to delighted us with long-awaited book from "Bluff you way in .." Editions:

http://i67.tinypic.com/kcepk.jpg

dragomir
03-14-2016, 08:14 AM
Geo, using a digital display can understand whether it is water or cave. When the signal from the nucleus to the ground to hit the anomaly 1 - touches the sides at an angle of 45 degrees and 2 passes through the anomaly and shaped silhouette over it. In practice, yielding 3 projections. When the average projection is a high potential from the outside - that is water, and when the average projection is lower than the potential on the outside - Cave.

Geo
03-14-2016, 08:48 AM
Thank you Dragomir.
1. Where do you connect the digital meter (i suppose voltmeter)??
2. Can explain it better, sorry but i did not understud it??

Regards:)

ps.. If it is a secret, you can email me!!

Geo
03-16-2016, 07:18 AM
Another one question....
If i"ll use the copper side of pcb as antenna (polished copper) is there any problem so to don't works properly???
Maybe dragomir has tried it.

:)

WM6
03-16-2016, 03:42 PM
Geo, polished or not polished implies only to (mutual) surface capacitance ob both plates. There is no magic behind.

Capacitance can be fine tuned by screwing outer capacitive plate in or out, so not a big deal with influence of (non)polished surface, apart from aesthetic impression.

I can see here bigger problem with pistol-like forced design of IGA-1 in which inductive component is not placed in correct plane regarding to capacitive component to get effective vector and scalar potential radiator/receptor.

Do you know what is in IGA-1 handle?

Geo
03-16-2016, 04:22 PM
Geo, polished or not polished implies only to (mutual) surface capacitance ob both plates. There is no magic behind.

Capacitance can be fine tuned by screwing outer capacitive plate in or out, so not a big deal with influence of (non)polished surface, apart from aesthetic impression.

I can see here bigger problem with pistol-like forced design of IGA-1 in which inductive component is not placed in correct plane regarding to capacitive component to get effective vector and scalar potential radiator/receptor.

Do you know what is in IGA-1 handle?

From what i know there is n't nothing inside. I saw a good clone and the handle is a large pvc pipe.

dragomir
03-16-2016, 08:52 PM
Just this clone also capture water 75 meters deep .For him indicator reacts slightly from orginal because the antenna was not polished well.

Geo
03-17-2016, 11:15 AM
Very good.
Did you tried to use pcb for antenna in place of polished stainless steel???

dragomir
03-17-2016, 09:14 PM
With such antenna with copper foil, I have not done tests.

enjoykin4
03-17-2016, 10:27 PM
dragomir привет !! :)

For antenna best use are massive metal plates as brass , copper , silver , gold or massive metal aluminium alloys plates highly polished like duraluminium D16 , Al-Cu, Al-Si-Cu , or Al-Si-Mg.

Also try to make an feedhorn antenna from same alloy.

Best regards
enjoykin

dragomir
03-18-2016, 08:13 AM
Yes, that is my opinion. The antenna can be made of various metals but it is important just to be perfectly polished.

Geo
05-13-2016, 04:45 AM
A modofied IGA-1 is near to finish....
Here a photo from the pcb (not original but designed by me)

WM6
05-13-2016, 10:49 AM
Great work Geo. You are very persistent builder.

Are all chip's (IC's) you need for IGA-1 available?

Geo
05-13-2016, 07:22 PM
Great work Geo. You are very persistent builder.

Are all chip's (IC's) you need for IGA-1 available?

Hi WM6.
Yes, IC's are available although i made some modifications..., but mdm is the original (yd13).
Also i finished the box with shielding (graphite) and now i must make the power supply and the antenna. Slowly... slowly :lol:

Geo
05-21-2016, 07:31 PM
Few wires more plus antenna and its OK :cool:

WM6
05-21-2016, 08:39 PM
Nice progress Geo.
Why you decided for wooden housing. Is it easier for you or some other reason?
Seem original IGA is in metallic housing?

abdou2014
05-21-2016, 11:01 PM
congratulations :)

Geo
05-22-2016, 04:53 AM
Nice progress Geo.
Why you decided for wooden housing. Is it easier for you or some other reason?
Seem original IGA is in metallic housing?

New version of IGA use plastic box as at attached photo. Plastic box was more difficult to me so i used a wooden box ahd graphit spray for shielding.

WM6
05-22-2016, 09:55 AM
Geo, this is not new Russian plastic housing design, they only adapt one of cheap (40 EUR) Chinese metal detectors to their needs.

http://i66.tinypic.com/4glpue.jpg

Geo
05-22-2016, 10:40 AM
Yes, easy way.
But inside there is the IGA-1.
I don't know what the constructor use for shielding, so i prefered the wood with graphite. My Iga will be about the same as the china plastic.

:)

Geo
05-22-2016, 10:42 AM
Geo, this is not new Russian plastic housing design, they only adapt one of cheap (40 EUR) Chinese metal detectors to their needs.

http://i66.tinypic.com/4glpue.jpg

Do you know which model and brand is this??

abdou2014
05-22-2016, 11:56 AM
Harbor Freight Tools 43149 Metal Detector

Geo
11-15-2016, 12:15 PM
I finished the IGA-1. The only that remains is a good adjustment.
It looks to working but there is stability problem. When i press reset meter can't stay at zero more than 2 seconds. Inventor said that must be kept at least 5 seconds at zero position.
I started looking for the problem :cool:

folharin
11-15-2016, 08:43 PM
Coil seems to be HD disc computer...

Geo
11-15-2016, 09:46 PM
Coil seems to be HD disc computer...

Yes:lol:

Geo
11-16-2016, 10:39 AM
As Enjoykin inform me the inventor of IGA-1 Yuriy Pavlovitch Kravcenko has passed away 2016 year in Russian town UFA.
:(:(

edwgold
11-18-2016, 01:54 AM
Mr. Geo, can you share IGA-1 circuit?

Geo
11-18-2016, 06:11 AM
Read all the thread and will find the schematic...

Geo
12-28-2016, 05:38 AM
The project finished:)
I solved the stability problem but found a new one. Sensitivity is not so good.
Maybe i burned the Mos K140UD13.
I am looking to order some new but the shop that i ordered existings ICs there isn't at ebay now, don't know why.
Any way one more photo;)

ozanmelih
12-28-2016, 11:31 AM
Dear Geo. You always modified and invented a lot of long range locator. But you never sell any of them. at least Do you use them in field? had any good results? Do you tell us what kind of lrl's do you have and which one is your favorite. Do you have any lrl suggestions to us? I am standing very near to you and go to Greece often. If you suggest any lrl which you can modify i can buy it and go there for meet with you face to face. If you do this as a job i can pay your hand work. I hope you dont missunderstand me. I am just asking you a favour and want to know your situation. I just want to have real working lrl and i tought you are good at this. Greetings...

Geo
12-28-2016, 12:08 PM
Hi.
Sorry but i don't sell lrls. Lrls are cheap to construct them, but need very long time to finish. I use them at fields because i am treasure hunter. More of them need very good conditions to work but other needs less. My favorites are two lrls with ferrite. They can catch an big old buried object from 300+ meters but problem is that they locate all non ferrous metalls.
If i have any photo at my pc then will attach here.

Btw... where are you from??

ozanmelih
12-28-2016, 12:37 PM
Dear Geo. It will be good to send your best devices photo to forum. Did you construct (invent) or modify it? How big should target be for detect by lrl? Do you pinpoit the target well? If you modified that lrl i can buy it and come to you for modify it. Of course if you accept to modify it. I dont need very long distance lrl but can find metal (all non ferrous is ok for me) I am from Thrace/Turkey. I live in Istanbul but i go to Greece very often. My sisters husban trades in Thessaloniki. And very closed friend of us called Stavro lives in Orestia. We visit him often. Greetings

Geo
12-28-2016, 06:57 PM
Hi.
Sorry but i can't make a lrl for you. No free time for this job.
Look two photos from one type of lrl.
I can't find photos from other type.
With this type i can go near to object about 1x1m.

ozanmelih
12-28-2016, 07:11 PM
Dear Mr. Geo its ok. Thank you for your kindness. I hope we can meet face to face someday. Wish
you luck...

BENZINAS
12-29-2016, 08:44 PM
Hi.
Sorry but i can't make a lrl for you. No free time for this job.
Look two photos from one type of lrl.
I can't find photos from other type.
With this type i can go near to object about 1x1m.

Nice job , wooden box......maybe we saw the same dream !!!!

Geo
12-29-2016, 08:53 PM
Nice job , wooden box......maybe we saw the same dream !!!!

......maybe!!!!:lol:

Geo
12-29-2016, 08:59 PM
Dear Mr. Geo its ok. Thank you for your kindness. I hope we can meet face to face someday. Wish
you luck...

One more photo...

Geo
12-29-2016, 09:03 PM
... and here my best lrl
It is not so beautiful but makes very good job.

BENZINAS
12-29-2016, 09:51 PM
[QUOTE=Geo;154578]... and here my best lrl
It is not so beautiful but makes very good job.[/QUOTE ......i was a very good boy this year so i wrote to santa to bring me an ungly lrl this christmas to make the job done , so if you see santa with the big bear tell him '' benzinas was a good boy ''.......:D:D !!!

Geo
01-01-2017, 06:35 PM
Hi.
Now my IGA-1 works fine.
I want to use it for caves detection
Iga inventor was using dedicated frequency to detect caves, different that the frequency for aura etc.
Is there anybody here at this forum that knows who is this frequency so to adjust it????

:)

haver
01-02-2017, 01:54 PM
Hi.
Now my IGA-1 works fine.
I want to use it for caves detection
Iga inventor was using dedicated frequency to detect caves, different that the frequency for aura etc.
Is there anybody here at this forum that knows who is this frequency so to adjust it????

:)

Особенностью прибора является то, что частота, на которой
работает измерение сдвига фаз - около 6-10 кГц (настраивается в зависимости
от применения прибора), а размер антенны - порядка 10 см.

Geo
01-02-2017, 05:39 PM
From what i translated you wrote "A feature of the device is that the frequency at which
running phase shift measurement - about 6-10 kHz (adjustable depending
Application of the device), and the antenna size - about 10 cm".

My Iga works from 6 to 11Khz but i need to learn if i must adjust the frequency at one that is special for caves, or anyone between 6 to 11 Khz will make the same "job".

Mike(Mont)
01-02-2017, 08:44 PM
I'm no expert on this, not even a novice, but a closed chamber has a resonant frequency that is a function of it's length. So to me that means different sized cave means different frequency. Now i saw one website for frequency discriminators said void is 700Hz. Maybe you can just bump that up to 7kHz. Worth a try I guess.:shrug: Or maybe an odd multiple harmonic. Or also heard silver frequency works for void, so you might try 8.6kHz

Geo
01-02-2017, 09:30 PM
Mike course the best solution is to do tests, but it is not so easy.
I have read (I do not remember exactly where) that the inventor Yuri Pavlovitch Kravcenko before selling each unit sets the frequency in accordance with the use which the owner wanted . So I asked here if anyone knows .....
Dragomir might remembers (owns a unit IGA-1), but I do not see him in the forum.

Morgan
01-23-2017, 04:30 PM
Hello Geo

Happy new year 2017 for you and all forum members,sorry for the delay, I just decide to come here to say hello.

hoppe all golden dreams come true .

regards

Geo
01-24-2017, 06:51 AM
Hello Paulo.
Happy 2017 with health.
How are you??
Are you still at Portugal or at Germany??

Regards:)

Morgan
01-24-2017, 11:38 PM
I still in my country, at the same place we met many years ago, of course somertimes I travel to other countries and make a lot of experiments with PDKs and other LRLs, already found some treasures,but not a big one...

Geo
01-26-2017, 06:06 AM
I still in my country, at the same place we met many years ago, of course somertimes I travel to other countries and make a lot of experiments with PDKs and other LRLs, already found some treasures,but not a big one...

Is there any plan to visit Greece??
There are places good for PDK and other very bad for it.
So will be a good experience.

Regards:)

Sneshko
01-26-2017, 06:32 AM
Happy new year 2017 for you and all forum members,sorry for the delay, I just decide to come here to say hello.

hoppe all golden dreams come true .

regards

Happy New Year Morgan!
Welcome back to the forum!
Regards!
Sneshko

Morgan
01-27-2017, 01:40 AM
Happy New Year Morgan!
Welcome back to the forum!
Regards!
Sneshko

Hello

I just looking around to see news

;)

Morgan
01-27-2017, 01:55 AM
Is there any plan to visit Greece??
There are places good for PDK and other very bad for it.
So will be a good experience.

Regards:)

I would like to visit Greece very much, but for the moment I am very busy with work, however it is in my plans to visit Greece, I will inform you about the visit.

About the PDKs, yes you right they not work well in diferente parts of the world, I have my experience in Russia (Moscou) when the PDK-2.3 that I use there was completly silent in place that I know there is silver or gold objects,so I decide to open the LRL and change the capacitors value in the swich for the frequencies,and the PDK start working there the same as in my country, get many targets(silver) and coins,a gold ring , for PDKs to work everywere its a question of tuning the coil with the right cap. value. Actualy I am building a diferente configuration of PDK where the frequency will not be a problema, just adition of extra coil and a diferente configuration and the problem will be solved.

Morgan
01-27-2017, 02:40 AM
Is there any plan to visit Greece??
There are places good for PDK and other very bad for it.
So will be a good experience.

Regards:)

Let me tell one experience I have with my PDK-3 (33 Hz) during the year of 2016 I found 3 treasures,nothing big but something valuable, and in the last treasure I was alone the place was a mountain where already gold coins was found in the past, I get a signal with the PDK-3 and folow the direction of signals,I pinpoint the target and use the PI M.Detector to confirm the target and 70cm depth the first coins start apearing, I dig many coins(most silver and a few gold) then I have the ideia to stop diging and hide the hole returning next day with all my LRLs,including Mineoro ,Iconos etc etc ,to check wich one is the best in locating this target. Next day I return there , made all the tests, note that some LRLs in the market are 100% useless :(:angry:, I made the conclusions and final dig the remains of this treasure ...just one experience confirm what I already suspect,LRLs that are tuned in diferente countries, not work in my country,same hapens with a few PDKs around the world, as you tell me in Greece there are places where PDKs are useless thats right, however some greek clientes told me they found GOLD, the answer for all claims is to build all terrain LRL,it takes time but is possible.

Bill512
01-27-2017, 03:08 PM
Let me tell one experience I have with my PDK-3 (33 Hz) during the year of 2016 I found 3 treasures,nothing big but something valuable, and in the last treasure I was alone the place was a mountain where already gold coins was found in the past, I get a signal with the PDK-3 and folow the direction of signals,I pinpoint the target and use the PI M.Detector to confirm the target and 70cm depth the first coins start apearing, I dig many coins(most silver and a few gold) then I have the ideia to stop diging and hide the hole returning next day with all my LRLs,including Mineoro ,Iconos etc etc ,to check wich one is the best in locating this target. Next day I return there , made all the tests, note that some LRLs in the market are 100% useless :(:angry:, I made the conclusions and final dig the remains of this treasure ...just one experience confirm what I already suspect,LRLs that are tuned in diferente countries, not work in my country,same hapens with a few PDKs around the world, as you tell me in Greece there are places where PDKs are useless thats right, however some greek clientes told me they found GOLD, the answer for all claims is to build all terrain LRL,it takes time but is possible.

Welcome back Morgan,
thanks for the report .
By the way, I guess that on the second day, the PDK-3 had given signals , in contrast with the other LRL's...:cool:

Sneshko
01-28-2017, 08:37 PM
Hello

I just looking around to see news

;)

Well, I was sick, dear Morgan. There was no time for testing and research ... Maybe this spring ...
Regards!
Sneshko

Morgan
01-30-2017, 08:13 PM
Welcome back Morgan,
thanks for the report .
By the way, I guess that on the second day, the PDK-3 had given signals , in contrast with the other LRL's...:cool:

yes it gave signals as well as the PDK-2.1, about Mineoro and Iconos they not locate the spot but this not mean they are useless,maybe in diferent ground or weather conditions possibly they work as LRLs...

Morgan
01-30-2017, 08:13 PM
Well, I was sick, dear Morgan. There was no time for testing and research ... Maybe this spring ...
Regards!
Sneshko

ok

good luck !

humhum
02-04-2017, 08:39 PM
Welcome Master Morgan, How are you. :)

Pahom
12-19-2018, 08:39 AM
The project finished:)
I solved the stability problem but found a new one. Sensitivity is not so good.
Maybe i burned the Mos K140UD13.
I am looking to order some new but the shop that i ordered existings ICs there isn't at ebay now, don't know why.
Any way one more photo;)Full analogue of the given chip-К140УД13 Is the Chip µA727M is a precision pre-DC amplifier with differential inputs, built according to the scheme of modulator-demodulator (MDM).

Geo
12-19-2018, 12:09 PM
uA727 is not a MDM chip.
It is a temperature controlleddifferential preampl.
Here is all the secret....
uA727 needs a clear signal of phenomenon so to amplify it.
UD13 amplify the total signal (adds the noise to the background signal):cool:.

tanrila
12-22-2018, 08:41 PM
uA727 is not a MDM chip.
It is a temperature controlleddifferential preampl.
Here is all the secret....
uA727 needs a clear signal of phenomenon so to amplify it.
UD13 amplify the total signal (adds the noise to the background signal):cool:. replicate К140УД13? My be amp ic 358 or lf412 .... ?

Geo
12-23-2018, 05:35 AM
At IGA-1 schematic you can't replace the UD13 with other chip, even if you replace the first 3 ic's with a very low noise ampl IGA will not work.

tanrila
01-07-2019, 05:47 AM
At IGA-1 schematic you can't replace the UD13 with other chip, even if you replace the first 3 ic's with a very low noise ampl IGA will not work.

Thanks big master geo and happy New year

Pahom
01-07-2019, 09:49 AM
It's not about ud13 or its equivalent. I found out that the scheme with errors and repeat it was not who could not. And they write about it on forums in Russia

Geo
01-07-2019, 10:56 AM
I don't agree. Schematic is OK. My Iga works ok near the city.
Far from City don't catch something but as Dragomir said (he own an original IGA) Iga don't work at all places, especially near the sea.

btw... Pahom can you give any adress of Rusian forum that speak about IGA???



:)

Pahom
01-07-2019, 11:47 AM
I don't agree. Schematic is OK. My Iga works ok near the city.
Far from City don't catch something but as Dragomir said (he own an original IGA) Iga don't work at all places, especially near the sea.

btw... Pahom can you give any adress of Rusian forum that speak about IGA???



:)Otvravil on e-mail. On the manufacturer's website, look carefully there are documents in pdf format there and the diagram and user manual.

Geo
01-07-2019, 03:00 PM
I have read everything on the manufacturer's site and on Реальная нереальность forum.

humhum
01-09-2019, 04:25 PM
Реальная нереальность
:D:lol:

Geo
01-09-2019, 05:19 PM
What are you laughing:???:

humhum
01-17-2019, 03:31 PM
What are you laughing:???:



of the itself word , not of You

Dubulumach
04-13-2019, 02:24 PM
My friend Geo has right ! :)

Use original Russian IC's and parts and make IGA1 work. Schematic is 100% correct.
Remember NOISE IS YOUR FRIEND. HALO signal is in noise not out of him. But keep in mind without test field with induced phenomenon this lrl couldn't be tuned.

Any quality schematic with wide band noise preamplifier is best thing for detecting the phenomenon.

NOISE IS YOUR FRIEND becuase can help you to find a lot of gold coins. :)

And one small secret: Halo Phenomenon is season and geo-position dependent. It means if you have tuned your device and have caught pehnomenon in spring, with same adjustment it woudn't work at summer. Need retune. Also different geographical area need tuning which work only at that area. If you study original Yuriy Kravcenko schematic you could see 5-pole switch (one initial and 4 season switch). Good thing is IGA1 auto phase lock target signal once when catch it out of noise. Very probably this is one of the best and hardest LRL schematic at this forum.

folharin
04-22-2019, 11:44 AM
I can not find the scheme either

Pahom
04-22-2019, 01:40 PM
I can not find the scheme eitherOn the third page is a diagram.

Pahom
05-10-2019, 07:28 AM
I don't agree. Schematic is OK. My Iga works ok near the city.
Far from City don't catch something but as Dragomir said (he own an original IGA) Iga don't work at all places, especially near the sea.





:)Good Day Geo! Have you tried on your site to discover precious metals with the help of IGA-1? If experiments were carried out, in which direction does the indicator arrow move after resetting. Thank you!

Geo
05-15-2019, 06:28 AM
Good Day Geo! Have you tried on your site to discover precious metals with the help of IGA-1? If experiments were carried out, in which direction does the indicator arrow move after resetting. Thank you!

Hi.
I tried only to locate caves.
Most times indicator arrow goes right and the next time left.

Pahom
05-15-2019, 10:56 AM
[/QUOTE]Clear ... and in the cave chest !!!!!! And what current consumes the device? I also began to collect IGA-1. Slowly for now, but little by little the board is picking up the details.

Geo
05-15-2019, 01:17 PM
Don't remember exactly the current but it is not big. I use 10 batteries 18650 for +-15V.

Pahom
05-15-2019, 06:13 PM
Don't remember exactly the current but it is not big. I use 10 batteries 18650 for +-15V.Understood thanks!

Geo
11-02-2019, 05:48 PM
I made all tests on summer but i have read that IGA works better on winter, so it is time to give it some tests more... :cool:

humhum
11-03-2019, 02:41 PM
I made all tests on summer but i have read that IGA works better on winter, so it is time to give it some tests more... :cool:

Yes, IGA all time works ,because not works with Elektromagnetic waves and İons potential.

Dubulumach
11-19-2019, 02:19 PM
My new lrl project IGA-1M.
Work only with original Russian components.This one is cave and hollow locator. Meassure phase shift at the border between two layers. Work at LF. Use capacitive antenna. Very complex schematic with multiple nested feedbacks. Work mandatory with highly polished antenna surfaces. Here is layout.

https://s1.picho.st/2019/11/19/BVDju.jpg

Geo
11-19-2019, 07:57 PM
Hi Dragan.
Congratulation for the new project.
From my experience it works with similar american ICs (maybe a little better) except the K140UD13.
From what Dragomir said, antenna is the most critical part.

Regards:)

Dubulumach
11-20-2019, 04:51 PM
Thank you Geo ! :)

Yes i agree with you Geo,IGA 1M need perfectly made antenna.
I need to know what kind of dielectric ring was used in IGA-1M ?
https://s1.picho.st/2019/11/20/BvL2W.png

There is reason why air haven't used as dielectric insulator.




Regards!
Dragan

Geo
11-22-2019, 06:51 AM
Hi Dragan.
At my Iga i use teflon.
The reason that air haven't used as dielectric insulator is because the case is metalic so is needing at least one insulator.

Regards :)

Dubulumach
11-22-2019, 01:02 PM
Hi Geo.

Yes teflon is excellent insulator. Thank you. :)

Hard to find in Serbia. Need to search at ebay. I have got 2 K140УД13 operational preamplifiers. Very interesting component. There are some secrets inside for fine tuning not shown at schematic. Email me for more info privately.

https://s1.picho.st/2019/11/22/B3fSY.jpg

Regards :)

Geo
11-22-2019, 04:24 PM
You can email me your secrets although my Iga works fine.

Regards:)

Geo
11-23-2019, 04:42 PM
here a photo with insulator...

:)

Dubulumach
11-25-2019, 03:04 PM
Looks perfect Geo.

Probably the best antenna you had built. :)

It's most important it work, with easy detect caves.

Best congratulation !

Geo
11-25-2019, 05:48 PM
The problem is that don't work at every areas, especially near to sea... (as Dragomir said...:()

Geo
11-27-2019, 11:47 AM
I am looking for the original schematic of power supply of the IGA-1.
Does anyone has it???

:)

Dubulumach
11-27-2019, 10:34 PM
Here we go my friend. :)

https://s1.picho.st/2019/11/28/B7p4S.md.jpg


https://www.picho.st/image/B7p4S

Geo
11-28-2019, 06:19 AM
This is not the original schematic:nono:.
There is a reason that i ask for this schematic, other way my power supply with 10x 18650 is OK.

Dubulumach
11-28-2019, 12:31 PM
Hi Geo. :)

Of course if isn't original IGA-1M power supply. I don't think so we can found original schematic in public.
Only way to get correct and original design is reversible engineering of original power supply. Maybe Dragomir can post schematic because he is only man of this forum who has original IGA-1M.

Regards
Dragan

ERDOGAN37
03-16-2020, 12:32 PM
Hello,

I want detailed information about the operation of the ig1 device.
What are the filter stages for?
How to distinguish between metal and cavity.
thank you:):)

Geo
03-17-2020, 05:35 PM
Did you read all the posts of this thread???

ERDOGAN37
03-17-2020, 06:01 PM
hello geo,

Yes, I read all the messages. But I could not find information about the filter tap switch.
I would appreciate if you give me information about the detailed operation of the device.

Thank you.
:):):)

ERDOGAN37
03-20-2020, 06:36 PM
Hello,
I think there is no one on this forum site who can provide information about the ig1 device,
I have completed the Ig1 device, I will soon share the working video of the device.
Thanks for help.: Lol: