I need Digital Mdf project

[wtrk]

Hey all.
Some of my friends have a project works with brass rod.
There are 12 type of selection unit ( gold,silver,metal, hole or void etc. )
2 brass rods putting inside the ground and people take another L brass pod , walking around this device.

I think some signals are sending and receiving between L pods and device pods.
Can anyone see or done this kind of Mdf

http://i.hizliresim.com/XBjjgD.png (http://hizliresim.com/XBjjgD)

[Mike(Mont)]

You can buy a cheap signal generator for under $30. Battery operated. Just remember it is 80% operator skill and knowledge. And that is assuming you have everything correct and know what you are supposed to know and have good locating conditions. They've been around since the 1980's. Nobody even wants to talk about them any more. Dell Winders, one of the pioneers in MFD, quit selling them. Said they don't work reliably any more. His advice is don't buy one.

[wtrk]

You can buy a cheap signal generator for under $30. Battery operated. Just remember it is 80% operator skill and knowledge. And that is assuming you have everything correct and know what you are supposed to know and have good locating conditions. They've been around since the 1980's. Nobody even wants to talk about them any more. Dell Winders, one of the pioneers in MFD, quit selling them. Said they don't work reliably any more. His advice is don't buy one.

Thanks for your answer.
Bu t some of my friend use this and they said definitely work..
I would like to create my own, if I find project files.

According to me; you mean " dont buy it or use " right ?

[Mike(Mont)]

I didn't say they don't work. If you want my advice (not likely LOL) get a cheap one and see if you can get it to work. People use a cheap one and sell it for high price. I suspect you already.

[wtrk]

Im a newbie in electronic and interested in treausre more than 8 years.
After that I want to make my own device and I saw some device.

I want to make " which is I explained before " that kind of device.
So ; If I buy a signal generator
1- Can I set with programming some value of that device. for example
Gold 2000-5000hz
Silver 5100-6000hz
Metal 7000-80000hz
Void 700-800hz

like this ?
Is that possible ?

I dont know how can I programming hex

[Mike(Mont)]

No, no. You buy a cheap frequency generator, read the instructions and just use the keypad to enter the frequency you want to use. The controls don't work worth crap on those cheap ones.

You might look at the Eliminator e-120 at imagelocators.com The euro is low price now.

[wtrk]

No, no. You buy a cheap frequency generator, read the instructions and just use the keypad to enter the frequency you want to use. The controls don't work worth crap on those cheap ones.

You might look at the Eliminator e-120 at imagelocators.com The euro is low price now.

could you please show me some of them ?
A few friends diverted me here, and they said I can get help here..

[Qiaozhi]

Bu t some of my friend use this and they said definitely work..
I would like to create my own, if I find project files.

You can build your own MFD here ->
http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/projects/mfd1/index.dat
Guaranteed to work as least as well as any MFD on the market.

[wtrk]

You can build your own MFD here ->
http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=/projects/mfd1/index.dat
Guaranteed to work as least as well as any MFD on the market.

Thank you Qiaozhi.
After I done this project, can some one help make this digital??

[Mike(Mont)]

Yeah, you can build Carl's and probably sell them for a thousand bucks.

[wtrk]

Yeah, you can build Carl's and probably sell them for a thousand bucks.

Is there any digital type of this mdf project ?
It could be difficult to set frequency settings.

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't understand why you want to reinvent the wheel. If you can't locate how do you expect to get it right? Did you look at the Eliminator e-120?

[Mike(Mont)]

Why are you trying to put a hex on somebody? :lol: This ain't witchcraft.

[Mike(Mont)]

I guess nobody has a sense of humor around here. :nono:

[wtrk]

I think analog system settings are more difficult than digital system.
I just want to do it this ;
for example
1- Gold ( 500hz - 1500hz )
2-Silver ( 1500hz - 2500hz )
3-Void ( 2500hz - 3500hz )
4-Brass ( 3500hz - 5000hz )

after I done it, I want to choose some time gold mode, some time void mode etc..
It could be easier for me.
I dont want to reinvent wheels.
Could you please help me ?

[Mike(Mont)]

I guess i don't understand. You put up a range of frequencies. Are you trying to sweep through these? I've never known anyone to do that. MFD uses one specific frequency like 8.7 KHz for silver. Possibly you might adjust that one way or the other like 8.6 KHz. It takes some time for the frequency to lock on what they call phase loop lock. If you are constantly changing the frequency this will not happen.

[wtrk]

I guess i don't understand. You put up a range of frequencies. Are you trying to sweep through these? I've never known anyone to do that. MFD uses one specific frequency like 8.7 KHz for silver. Possibly you might adjust that one way or the other like 8.6 KHz. It takes some time for the frequency to lock on what they call phase loop lock. If you are constantly changing the frequency this will not happen.

Hmm..
Not constantly changing.
For example : X place I just set void mode and will look for void. 1 hour later I will set gold signal frequency and will look gold..

Is that possible ?

maybe Im a new in electronic and cant explain what I want. sorry

[Mike(Mont)]

I already told you that's what a frequency generator does. Your brain is locked.

[wtrk]

I already told you that's what a frequency generator does. Your brain is locked.

Gold : 5.25 khz
Silver : 8.95 khz
Lead : 4.25 khz
Void : 700 hz

[Nicolas]

Hi this is our digital MFD not MDF that mean

Magnetic frequency detector and other Synonyms hhhhh:D

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Magnetic+Frequency+Detector


http://cdn.top4top.net/i_5e6f7a47f91.png

[wtrk]

Hi this is our digital MFD not MDF that mean

Magnetic frequency detector and other Synonyms hhhhh:D

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Magnetic+Frequency+Detector


http://cdn.top4top.net/i_5e6f7a47f91.png

Hey I didnt find something the link.
So, I want to make, 1st picture left place located kind of MFD.
It looks fine

[Nicolas]

Hey I didnt find something the link.
So, I want to make, 1st picture left place located kind of MFD.
It looks fine


Hi it's work both together the 1st left is for ground the second work same rods.

[wtrk]

Hi it's work both together the 1st left is for ground the second work same rods.

Do you sell it or defining to make it

[Nicolas]

Do you sell it or defining to make it

Dear it is for sell is commercial not for free project

[wtrk]

We have a problem to buy something here..
Prices more than 70 euro or 70 $, we have to go to gate and should pay %18 tax.

So I should make it myself..

[Mike(Mont)]

try ebay.com do a search:

dds generator 0-50 khz

[wtrk]

try ebay.com do a search:

dds generator 0-50 khz

Thanks Mike for your helps.

If I buy this one , what I need more ?
Is that enogh for me or I need more schematic, system or sth.
http://i.hizliresim.com/1Yb6lj.png (http://hizliresim.com/1Yb6lj)

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know if anything will help you. LOL Many people say they don't work including almost everyone on this forum and Dell Winders one of the pioneers. You have to learn how to use L-rods and that can take, well, for most people, never. Some form of meditation is essential. I've been using this type of equipment almost every day for 25 years and I ain't rich and I still have problems using the rods. I think most people who try it think they are smarter than everyone else, that they can learn the rods, learn meditation in twenty minutes, or that they don't need to learn meditation. Above all, you need to be close to God and nature, and follow the principles in the Holy Bible. That rules out almost everyone on the planet.

[Mike(Mont)]

In the early 1900's many of the famous dowsers were Catholic priests. Boy do the atheist skeptics hate that. There are a lot of people who hate me for saying that. That's in the Holy Bible, too. I'm basically just repeating what I learned, and it's "Kill the messenger!". You don't have to be Catholic and you don't have to memorize the Holy Bible, but you have to follow the principles there. It's all there. "Seek and ye shall find..." I suppose you can learn them somewhere else.

[Mike(Mont)]

You should probably check the output with a multi-meter because the controls are faulty.

Watch the videos at imagelocators for the rayfinder, etc.

[Mike(Mont)]

The part that drives most people crazy is sometimes they work and sometimes they don't work.Takes a lot of patience that most people do not possess.

[wtrk]

Thanks for your amazing answers..
I really appreciate for this..
L rods dont work with me, but my friend make a device and now its working..
But just only void..
1- our device generating 700hz wave
2- We connect 2 rods out and minus(-) place.One of them using (-) place with dc voltage together..
3-After putting 35-40 cm inside the ground rods.
4-We using L rods.

I want to improve only this and same device.
if you want I may give you schematic and some more info.

Thats the case How can I improve it??

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know what you have so there is no way of knowing. If it's the photo on the first post, get rid of the AC power.

Go back and read what i said about meditation. L-rods require a pure, clear focus. That is very difficult. It takes many weeks. Most people never get it. They think they are smarter, but that is the way Satan works--the Great Deceiver.

[Qiaozhi]

I've been using this type of equipment almost every day for 25 years and I ain't rich and I still have problems using the rods.
Surely there's a lesson here somewhere. :D

[Mike(Mont)]

Well, at least you are smart enough not to claim you know what that lesson is.

[Mike(Mont)]

WTRK, there is a lot to learn. One thing is do not rely on the equipment completely. Yes, equipment is necessary but in the end your brain has to process the info it receives. Like I said it takes several weeks of daily practice before you can expect to see any results from learning meditation. Don't fall in the trap that it is going to be easy because you think you are smarter. That's why the skeptics failed. Just remember that. Probably the main thing in the Holy Bible is you have to let go of your ego. Nobody wants to do that, but that's where the problems are when you try to play God. Nowadays these so-called scientists claim that science and math is God. This is the Great Deceiver at work. Man-made stuff is not God.

[Mike(Mont)]

i know people must have crazy thoughts in their head when i say meditation. Visions of some guy cross-legged in a robe with a turban on his head chanting "AUM". I didn't say formal meditation with a guru, I said SOME FORM OF MEDITATION. The easiest one is the yoga breath. You'll have to do your own search. It's so easy but it takes several weeks of daily practice to open the new channels in your brain. You are shorting yourself if you try to cheat.

[Mike(Mont)]

There are many people who will tell you differently. Some are sellers and will tell you what you want to hear. Others don't want you to know and other just don't know in the first place. Everybody has gold fever and wants the easy way. Like the saying goes, "There's never enough time to do it right the first time but there's always time (and money) to do it over again." Nobody wants to hear it. Everybody thinks they are smarter and don't need it. :nono: yeah, I am speaking from experience.

[Mike(Mont)]

I call the internet pretenders the "false profits". :lol:

[wtrk]

This topic going to religion :)
Im Muslims , fallow Quran definitions and draw my way this type..
And I dont do meditiation, so I dont know how does it make ? :)
So at the fallowing picture void finder and working fine for everybody..

Just set trimpot frequency 700hz, and test it.


http://s29.postimg.org/t40tvrvgn/void_finder_2_yerle_im_ve_malzeme.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
fotos kostenlos (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=german)

[Mike(Mont)]

I think you are mistaken about "going to religion". It's about consciousness.

[Mike(Mont)]

You waste your time and money on unstable 555. You do not understand this is obsolete.

[Qiaozhi]

Well, at least you are smart enough not to claim you know what that lesson is.
The lesson is bleedin' obvious.
25 years doing the same thing, with no results! Go figure... ;)

[Mike(Mont)]

That's right, never found nothin.

[Mike(Mont)]

Oh, I take it back, I got skunked several times.

[wtrk]

You waste your time and money on unstable 555. You do not understand this is obsolete.

Ok, lets say me stable one .

[Mike(Mont)]

Your choice. Sorry for trying to help.

[Mike(Mont)]

Forgive me for being so slow. Yes. your device when set to 700Hz will do very well at finding an empty hole.

[Mike(Mont)]

If you get a cheap frequency generator with a frequency counter function you could hook it up to your 555 and set the frequency to 700Hz.

[wtrk]

Hole Frequency is ok..
But this device should be set 4-5 different mode..
My friends programmed it like below in video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSrUTBPw6LQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSrUTBPw6LQ)

also I have code.

[Mike(Mont)]

Must be some kind of language barrier here.

[wtrk]

Its Turkish language..
Altın : Gold 5.25 khz
Gümüs : Silver 8.95 khz
Kursun : Lead 4.25 khz

Like this.

[Mike(Mont)]

Sounds like that will work much better than the cheap Chinese stuff. Save a lot of money, too. The time it takes to build it is free, too!

[wtrk]

So at the attachment is Proteus 8 file.

[wtrk]

I done digital project.
Some one draw project for me and now I can do it digital.

[reza vir]

Many circuits have been made to produce a signal:)
Well is not alone digital signal generators for Search:frown:
Because the square and sinusoidal signal search should be used at the same time to lower the error;)
Let's share your hex file you want to work.

[reza vir]

http://s3.picofile.com/file/8188094376/Sch.PNG

[wtrk]

http://s3.picofile.com/file/8188094376/Sch.PNG

Have you PCB file this bro ?

[reza vir]

Hello friend
Yes to ancient times
If the find
I send you

[Hadi]

Hi reza vir
this is perfect DDS. does it can to adjust the pwm or duty cycle of out signal?
and if is possible you may I have complete file hex and pcb.
thanks

[reza vir]

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