Enhancing the Dowsing Ability

[goldfinder]

Dowsing is a personal capability and varies widely across the spectrum from no ability to extreme sensitivity. There are those who claim the ability but simple testing reveals they are either deluded, con men/women, or have have only a slight ability. From observing many dowsers over the years most fall into the poor ability while the very sensitive are very few and far between.

Since I can actually sense the actual energies I believe there is really such a thing as dowsing. I have often wondered if there are any ways to enhance the ability that would up the sensing capability .

Montana Mike is one of the few who advocates meditation to enhance one capability on this forum. I heartily agree with his observation.

I think diet is also important. People who eat heavy foods (meat eaters) I've noticed are usually very poor at dowsing while the few with excellent capability I have seen are close to or are vegetarians. Since I know a lot of vegetarians most of them are quite sensitive people in the nervous system category and the heavy meat eaters are clods in this respect.

The MFD and the LRL for the most part are dowsing machines and claim to enhance the ability although most of the the sellers of these equipment stoutly refuse to call them dowsing machines. This smacks to me of conmen.

If anyone has other inputs in this area I would certainly be interested. This topic, I think, would be of interest to all and maybe has been addressed and if so I'd appreciate the reference(s).
Goldfinder

[Mike(Mont)]

The old joke a guy sees a beatnik walking with a musical instrument case and asks "How do you get the Carnegie Hall?" The beatnik replies "Practice, man, practice!"

Fred Stewart says in one of his books if you start practice when you are five years old and practice every healthy day, by the time you are thirty years old you will have reached your plateau. That does not mean you will be a good dowser, but the level you do reach will depend on how much effort you put into it.

I recently read someone said if you spent ten thousand hours at something you will become a savant. Of course I have to laugh at one skeptic who said anyone can learn to use an L-rod in twenty minutes.

For me I constantly change my routine to keep from getting stale. It's best to keep the sessions short, maybe twenty minutes several times a day. Actual practice with feedback is the only way. It's a b**** sometimes when you don't feel good. One time I drove hours for free to get to a place and i had a migraine headache. Then the dad messed with my equipment when I wasn't looking. It don't get much worse than that. You can say all you want that skeptics don't bother you, but it is Hell. Always try to learn from your mistakes, like Michael Jordan says he learned because he failed. It ain't easy to keep a positive attitude but you got to put that right up front.

Read all the books you can. The internet crap is mostly worthless. Then go back and read the books again. Do this every few months. i swear I learn something new every time I reread a book. Stay away from the hocus pocus psychic crap like map dowsing, etc. That will really f you up.

[Mike(Mont)]

I say it's better to work alone. People try not to bother you but they can't help it. They put an intense stare on you and it ruins things. Even if they aren't staring, their mental energy is on you. Every bit as bad as solar magnetic interference. That's why skeptics can't locate--they have such negative energy.

[Qiaozhi]

Read all the books you can.
I would recommend Chapter 13 of ITMD.
It's best to start with the real facts. :D

[Mike(Mont)]

Well, I recommend you start back with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The Great Deceiver (aka Satan) is comparative knowledge (and phony skeptic logic LOL) instead of direct perception.

[Mike(Mont)]

Here's an old joke.

Skeptic: How do you know all this is true about the Garden of Eden?

Priest: Well, I don't know for sure. When I get to Heaven I will ask them.

Skeptic: And what if they aren't there?

Priest: Then YOU ask them!

:lol:

[goldfinder]

Funny one Mike = fits real well.

As to working alone - depends on how focused a person is. I would never work with a skeptic. Their energies are usually so chaotic I wouldn't have them around me.

I am not in the conversion business. If the skeptics need to get knocked around with all their discord and hatred for a few thousand more lifetimes that is their business. I don't accept their trip in my world!

My observation is that there is what I call a leap of faith. Indiana Jones did it in that movie where he has to cross that canyon and didn't at first see the glass bridge so he took the first step, leap of faith. A person has to take that leap of faith and find the truth on the other side. You can't prove anything to someone who will not take that leap so why waste precious energy. The person's darkness will eventually force them to move forward into the Light.
Goldfinder

[Mike(Mont)]

The MFD and the LRL for the most part are dowsing machines and claim to enhance the ability although most of the the sellers of these equipment stoutly refuse to call them dowsing machines. This smacks to me of conmen.


Goldfinder

Ignorant skeptic. Are you channeling Sam? Or worse. And because you don't know what you don't know you attack others who do know. I know of dogs who know more than you about it. I have personally witnessed a dog "nose " an MFD signal line exactly. The dog would also sit down or lie down on the discriminated MFD signal line but mainly only when it wanted to go for a potty walk. I saw it do this for silver, too. And even with a different transmitter. The guy said he never trained it, it just learned on it's own. Another guy said his dog would dig up the spot the instant he turned on the transmitter. I don't know much about that one but he said it was buried cash.

And don't forget the original MFD's used an electronic receiver. If you've looked at the AGR receiver it only works on large masses and relatively close range (100 feet max). The L-rod is way more sensitive but that's not dowsing. Again, I say study Konstantin Meyl and the scalar wave aka longitudinal wave. Some professor Doeppler or something like that uses a homeopathic remedy with it.

[Mike(Mont)]

Anybody can hook up a frequency generator. But there's more to it. The HID systems for one. And you must know how to use the rods and how to interpret them. Of course that's the hard part and if you think you can learn that on your own without some guidance, you are delusional. And it's more than just learning the rods, that's the meditation part.

The dowsing amplifier I built does not work without a sample or witness. That tells me it is not really dowsing, but i call it that because it uses the witness and most people associate that with dowsing. Of course the skeptics associate anything with L-rods as dowsing. That's simple ignorance. And like they say in AA if you don't admit you have a problem you will continue to play the blame game. Blame the equipment, blame the builder, blame everything except yourself. That's why they say "prisoner of blame". You make your own jail cell. :nono:

[Mike(Mont)]

As for your testing, I wasn't there so I don't know. I know Dell said if a magnetometer could be magnified 300 times, you could pick up the signal line. Now remember that is during conditions without too much interference. And i might add like Meyl says, other resonant objects nearby are going to draw power off the system. That leaves less for your target. And humans can absorb the signal, but you should know that if you studied Meyl.

So the key is resonance. On the witricity, an MIT scientist said resonant transfer is a million times more efficient than not resonant. Of course that's assuming you have resonance in your system. But keep trying. :lol::lol::lol:

[Mike(Mont)]

I doubt you will get a stable mag at 300 times more amplification. I don't know where they got that figure, but it tells me man-made equipment doers not work at well as God-made.

I know Dell has made some misstatements in the past. I assume that is due to his lack of electronics knowledge because he is honest to a fault.

Reminds me of another joke.

This is why seniors don't get hired. A senior is at a job interview. "What is your biggest fault?" he is asked. "Honesty." he replies. "I don't think that is a fault." the interviewer says. The senior replies, "I don't give a crap about what you think!"

I bought an MFD Weight Chek from K-co years ago. The instructions were not accurate. Years later Carl did a pan on one. I noticed mine looked the same, had the same instruction manual, but it was not the same inside. And it did not work like the instructions said it was supposed to. I made some modifications to it and I like it now after i figured out how this one works. I put a fine tuner on it and now I can see the difference of 50 ohms or less how it affects the rod response. Like the bumper stick on the car "I may be slow but I'm ahead of you." Yeah, I'm way slow. Takes me years sometimes but one day the light comes on in my head. I remember stuff from years ago. I attribute it to eating dark chocolate. Serious. That's why i talk about going back and rereading the books. Once you learn one thing, you find other related stuff. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know why dowsers are some of the biggest LRL skeptics on the planet. I guess like most people they think they know it all. Problem is they have their head up their rear. No doubt it is very similar to a religion and anyone or anything that goes against their beliefs of "a coat hanger is just as good" is a sacrilege. Meth users the same way. it's their religion.

[Mike(Mont)]

Just to clarify about the MFD Weight Chek, i am talking about right near the cut-off point for a small target. A difference of 50 ohms on the control dial can start to filter out the target. A couple things happen, the response starts to get weaker and the rods take longer to open back up so usually this means you go past the line. So it's not really more accurate once you get to that point. This is where the fine tuning can really help-tune just enough before the response slows. Now this is for the unit i have. It's not like either of the ones on Carl's pan page and it's not like the ones Dell was selling a couple years ago. I just scabbed this one together with Gorilla tape. :lol: Probably build a new one someday.

[Qiaozhi]

Good grief Mike! ..... 6 posts of rambling gibberish. :help:
Which planet did you say you're from? :shrug:

[Mike(Mont)]

"Mankind is made up of two kinds of people: wise people who know they are fools, and fools who think they are wise."

[Mike(Mont)]

Good grief Mike! ..... 6 posts of rambling gibberish. :help:
Which planet did you say you're from? :shrug:

Yeah, call me "Anti-matter Mike". :lol: At least i am honest.

As far as i am concerned, "politically correct" is a sin.

[Mike(Mont)]

Q, one thing I learned about locating is no matter how insane something appears, if someone who knows how to locate says something, put it away for the day when you understand. Pretty much everything I posted is related to enhanced dowsing, just some people don't want to hear how the skeptic mind needs help like the souls in Purgatory they can't help themselves.

[Mike(Mont)]

And I get no thanks. I posted on another forum about how a rich person will not give up their wealth to get to Heaven. And so the person who has pride in their logic refuses to let it go to learn locating. I realize it is so foreign to the skeptic mind that you really think I'm from another Universe. Maybe i am...:cool:

[Mike(Mont)]

And maybe you ain't Chinese.

[Mike(Mont)]

I've said it before this whole treasure hunting is greed driven. That is the polar opposite of what is needed to be a real locator. All the principles in the Holy Bible that is the blueprint map. Lose the ego. That's why skeptics hate locators and why they will never get it. Remember what Satan said to Jesus--"This is all yours if you bow to me." What good is it to gain the world and lose your soul? If you still don't get it, go back and read the Socrates quote again, especially the last part.

Adios.

[Qiaozhi]

I realize it is so foreign to the skeptic mind that you really think I'm from another Universe. Maybe i am...:cool:
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[Mike(Mont)]

Sorry I don't have unzip. Let's just say my ways are not of this world. I'm really not here to **** anyone off but it's hard sometimes not to. Okay, most of the time. It's the Natural Selection Process, the skeptic makes their choice to be negative. Like I said, I am not skilled in exorcism. I stay away from that. I'm through with this thread.

[Mike(Mont)]

I guess I should do like dowser and sell my device for $3000. That way I'd make about two cents per hour for the time I've spent to get this far. Yeah, no joke.

[Mike(Mont)]

Was watching Brain Games on TV. They said if you imagine throwing a baseball at the camera you not only use 50% of your brain but you force open more/new channels in your brain.

Stress due to lack of time or resources produces adrenaline and noradrenaline. Both affect your brain functioning.

. Hugely increased sensitivity. I suspect this is way over most people's head.

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm not very good at describing things. The other day before I had seen the Brain Games episode, I was using an L-rod (no transmitter) doing a sweep. The thought came to me to imagine that the rod tip is a writing implement. Some might wish to think of it as a paint brush, but i don't paint so I wouldn't know. LOL Of course you still have to have a smooth sweep, no bouncing. Anyway the idea here is to personal with the rod. Some say think of it as an extension of your body.

I've read people describe the target field as having a pressure or even a membrane that the rod can sense. The redneck description would be thumping your truck tires with a tire iron to check the air pressure. Of course this is very crude compared to imagining the rod tip as if you are writing with it. You know how they talk about your signature so much of you in it. Do that with the rod. The opposite of this would be what I call the doofus "duh"--no feeling.

Also the show did an experiment where people would take a tesrt, then listen to classical music of Mozart for a show time then take another test. They scored higher. Then they listened to rock music and took another test. Surprisingly they also scored higher than the first test. It's what they called "enjoyment arousal". Now picture an angry and bitter skeptic with the negative and pompous attitude. Well, hopefully i do not have to explain this one. :lol:

[goldfinder]

From Mike (Montana)
... Also the show did an experiment where people would take a tesrt, then listen to classical music of Mozart for a show time then take another test. They scored higher. Then they listened to rock music and took another test. Surprisingly they also scored higher than the first test. It's what they called "enjoyment arousal". Now picture an angry and bitter skeptic with the negative and pompous attitude. Well, hopefully i do not have to explain this one. :D

Hey Mike - we haven't heard from you in a couple of days. Did you run out of caustic remarks? :)

Mike - for some reason you have vilified me as a skeptic. If you had really read my initial forum note on this you would see that is not the case. :nono:

I haven't seen anything, so far, on ways to enhance the dowsing ability except perhaps meditation which I do agree with. Meditation does increase one's sensitivity and awareness to energies across the spectrum.

Anything else out there in dowsing land that really addresses this topic ?? Any dowsers out there that want to chip in ??
Goldfinder

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know why dowsers are some of the biggest LRL skeptics on the planet. I guess like most people they think they know it all. Problem is they have their head up their rear. No doubt it is very similar to a religion and anyone or anything that goes against their beliefs of "a coat hanger is just as good" is a sacrilege. Meth users the same way. it's their religion.

Yeah, gf, I don't wish to dwell on the skeptic mind that's why I nothing more to say to you. Everybody wants something for nothing, get rich quick at someone else's expense. Abuse them, steal it, then claim ownership, then crap on them again. I call it the pimp mentality.

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm not trying to single anyone out by name. Just saying if I put the info out, someone will steal it. So it ain't gonna happen.

[goldfinder]

... I call it the pimp mentality.

Q is right - 25 years and nada! You should buy a good metal detector and go to your local park and find coins that fall out of the pockets. Your dowsing is obviously seriously lacking in ability. Meditation/Contemplation on perfection those 25 years and you would be light years ahead.

Yours is the BS mentality!
Goldfinder

[Mike(Mont)]

That ain't quite what i said. :nono: First off i said I ain't rich. Then it was a play on words (a double negative--"never found nothin'" meaning i always found something) and then I corrected it to say I had been skunked several times. Sorry I had to explain it to you. Pride is the worst sin.

[Mike(Mont)]

When you put down Dell, that is what made me realize you have skeptic in your blood. Then you do it to me same thing but i don't care what people think about me. Irrelevant is the term that comes to mind.

[Qiaozhi]

..... i don't care what people think about me. Irrelevant is the term that comes to mind.
Many a true word said in jest. :lol:

[Mike(Mont)]

like anyone ever listens to me. I have no need to impress anyone. Everyone should be entitled to say what's on their mind. Just be ready for the backlash. :) People won't change until they are sick and tired of the way they are.

[g-sani]

One way for someone to enhance his dowsing ability is to dowse alone in places where there is nothing else to hear apart from nature's noises.
This will give great results if it is done for long periods practising regularly.
The one that is only practising dowsing this way gets the same benefits as if he was meditating but feels them much stronger

[WM6]

One way for someone to enhance his dowsing ability is to dowse alone in places where there is nothing else to hear apart from nature's noises.
This will give great results if it is done for long periods practising regularly.
The one that is only practising dowsing this way gets the same benefits as if he was meditating but feels them much stronger

Agree!

Even if, at the end, is no out-coming in new finds, such approach provide great benefit to lonely treasure hunter overall health.

[g-sani]

Agree!

Even if, at the end, is no out-coming in new finds, such approach provide great benefit to lonely treasure hunter overall health.

Never mind what you say my friend.
The world is completely different from what you are thinking. When you master dowsing using it to find treasures seems worthless.
You enjoy it not for the money that treasures worth but for the discovery of the exact spot that a treasure is hidden. You gain knowledge from this of how our ancestors worked and how they used to hide their valueables. You can reverse engineering their tactics in other words and I am talking about signs, codes and symbols throughout the centuries
It is an endless subject dowsing and finding treasure is only a small fraction of it.
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Sorry but I have to stop it here, I just remembered that I am talking to a skeptic. :D

[WM6]

Good saying, dear g-sani, I can say that this is my experience too. Despite I am a skeptic.

[g-sani]

Good saying, dear g-sani, I can say that this is my experience too. Despite I am a skeptic.

Then I will send some photos to your email to see what I am talking about.

[WM6]

Thank you g-sani.
At the moment (till Wednesday) I am not at home and without this email password.
Glad to looking at photos and answer to you. Thanks.

[g-sani]

Thank you g-sani.
At the moment (till Wednesday) I am not at home and without this email password.
Glad to looking at photos and answer to you. Thanks.

Ok

[goldfinder]

Thanks to g-santi and wm6 we got some good observations.:)

Any more out there in dowsing land with some constructive helpful ideas ???

I talked to a dowsing friend last week and he just bought himself a new truck with the old gold coins he found using his dowsing ability. The coins were not too far from the Mexican border. My friend has been practicing for several years - finally paid off. He also goes to the local casino and picks up $400-$500 a week by dowsing which slots are about to pay off!

Keep up the good work!
Goldfinder

[g-sani]

To become a dowser first you have to make clear to yourself that dowsing exists.
This can happen by watching other(s) practising it succesfully not only once but many times and probably by using different techniques.
Then and if you are amazed of what you saw you most probably you are on your way to learn and try to practise it yourself and see if you can do it. This usually is the starting point.
And one thing is for sure... If somebody really wants to do something then the possibillities are that he will succeed. Humans are incredible what they can do when they believe in something. Of course it will be different from person to person.
Those that they will only try practising whithout learning about dowsing usually they give up because the results will be poor. And the ones that they will get the knowledge by reading from the experiences of accomplished dowsers which also practise in parallel with it most probably will become better and better and sudenlly they will realise that dowsing is some sort of a tool that takes you in some other understanding of the world around you and not just a tool for finding treasure.
So making a synopsis I will say that somebody will enhance his dowsing ability by reading all sources available to him about the subject and also try to practise and talk with other experienced dowsers in order to get answers to their questions
In other words see what your predecessors have to offer you by choosing all the points from the bibliography were most of them agree and work at this basis to practise and build up your technique

[goldfinder]

It looks like Dragomir has the right idea. EM signal spread and are subject to power losss over distance. Not so with scalar type.
goldfinder

[taxma1981]

the dowsing is fraud:χαχαχα:i m still poor:χαχαχα:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN9q4qULzoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xceRuW4aw

[Douglas]

friend is not training is reality in the detection of metals is simple antenna pointed will have something if not the desired because the science of the antenna is wrong

[nicholas]

First may I say hello to all. Its been 10 years since I signed onto this forum and even though I have lurked from time to time, over the years...hoping to find the Holy grail, I realized that it was a personal quest and the answers I was looking for were to be found within.
With that said, I have been dowsing for 10 years and this is what I have learned.
The dowsing ability is in our dna as a self preservation mechanism so mankind can survive with all that the word implies. From locating water and minerals to self healing etc. so it would be safe to call it a universal energy. In ancient times the ones who showed that they had inclination were chosen through a selective process and trained to enhance their abilities, and naturally there were secrets so that's why the selection process.

Even though there has been a huge effort to hide and destroy these secrets over the millenia, our ancient ancestors, the sea people had the foresight to leave them for us in such a way that they are there for those who seek, although it is not an easy task to connect the dots and since they left it this way, I will just give the direction for whoever is interested.

If you can feel the energies then you have it but something is missing from your repertoire and it's not diet only. If you are searching for the yellow metal and talking about ghosts you are missing something. You should be able to go to ground zero.

Someone once told.me," if you can't find water how do you expect to find the yellow metal."

Here is a simple test for practice, no need to bury anything. It would be good to ground it a few cms though Take 5 plastic containers of the same type and put a different metal in each and spread them out at a distance and dowse for the yellow metal. No cheating. All the containers the same weight the metal inside wrapped in paper so you can't hear the differences in sound, or have someone spread them around . And from distances. 50-100 m. When you can find the gold every time then you will be able to find it in the field just as easily and at greater distances..

But like another poster said, once you can do this, you then realize that there is a higher purpose to it all.Thats why the dowsers are few and far between.

I did miss once today in practice.... but as it turned out, I had this iPhone thing in my pocket.

All the best
Nick

[g-sani]

Τhe only thing nicholas is that when you dowse like that you dowse in the metaphysical level and you don't eventually look for energies.
It is like looking for the action that took place when placing the plastic containers and not the energy that the specimen of the gold spreads in the atmosphere.
This part of dowsing exists but to master it is very very dificult.
One has to dowse in the physical plane if he wants to have some success looking for metals. Trying to tune and distinguish the energies arround him is the way a treasure hunter should follow to get results.
A piece of metal has to stay in the ground for many weeks to be detectable from the majority of the accomplished dowsers which as you correctly stated are only a few.

[nicholas]

Τhe only thing nicholas is that when you dowse like that you dowse in the metaphysical level and you don't eventually look for energies.
It is like looking for the action that took place when placing the plastic containers and not the energy that the specimen of the gold spreads in the atmosphere.
This part of dowsing exists but to master it is very very dificult.
One has to dowse in the physical plane if he wants to have some success looking for metals. Trying to tune and distinguish the energies arround him is the way a treasure hunter should follow to get results.
A piece of metal has to stay in the ground for many weeks to be detectable from the majority of the accomplished dowsers which as you correctly stated are only a few.

Your points are respected and well taken, although there is room for debate, but before any further comments I would like to just humbly state that after 10 years of pendulum and L rod dowsing, I consider myself in grade school level.
Having said that, and to elaborate a little on your points, imo whether it be physics,quantum physics or metaphysics, they all have a part to play, and anyone serious about his art must be in constant evaluation of these balances within himself.

In regards to what percentage of metaphysics is involved in the container game, I admit I can't be certain but suspect that there is also a balance between the above three there.

Whether it be a game or in the field, one must be able to adapt at that particular moment in time to each situation, since very seldom if ever are there two cases the same, and so the balances and percentages are always fluctuating in real time.

It depends on each individual, his character, his level of discipline as this is what imo determines success or failures and also the success rate .

[g-sani]

Hi nicholas,
Everything that you stated is correct. It can't be one thing in dowsing without the other. Metaphysical dowsing has its physical quality in it and the oposite.
So, I agree that whatever you choose to practice the other component is still there. And the persentage of it depends mostly to the person who is practicing dowsing with the rest of the parameters playing only a second role.
But when we are talking about comparing one with the other then physical dowsing is by far the easiest one for someone to practice.
In my opinion one must practice physical dowsing when he is looking for material things(treasures in our case) letting the metaphysical aspect come in by chance. Of course you should be aware that the metaphysical side is always there helping you, but nothing more than this. The truth is that you are thirsty to see some quick results when you start dowsing and to me this is the most crucial point for the beginner because you are in need of building some confidence for yourself and for what you are doing while practicing the art.
Then as time passes by you realise that you become better and better in the metaphysical aspect of it.
And who knows maybe one day you will be able to ask questions and get the right answers for everything you have asked but then you have also opened what they call akashic records.
And this is the beauty of dowsing, it takes you to personal ascension and nothing is the same in your life again.

regards

[nicholas]

G-sani,
In regards to results as you say, this can be misinterpreted in text so let me clarify.
10 years ago when I was chasing Fanta cans 800 meters and 1m deep I was thirsty for results. This went on for years really. I finally realized that I was doing it wrong.

And so 3 years ago I adopted a different attitude, more one of the researcher and decided to not think about the results anymore, to detach. That was when things with meaning started happening for me and took me out of kindergarten shall we say.

To not derail the thread, I will discuss this point and to use a cliche from the movie The Last Samurai,
" too many minds". " No mind " This is the psychological state I strive for when dowsing. To be detached from the outcome and to look at it from the open sphere but with a clear intent.

This for the metaphysics part.


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On the scientific part I would like to work this more in order to achieve a better balance, and not so much for treasure hunting although it is fun. But as you said, after a certain point one is not the same, I have crossed to the other side, there is no going back.

The dowsing spectrum is so vast, I see that clearly now and have come to realize that there is so much more that can be done with it.

Just a small correction here in regards to ghosts. I mentioned in my original post that you should be able to go to ground zero. To correct that, I found the target in the field 1,5meters away, to the east/southeast. Ghost to the north, so if I was to rely solely on dowsing and proceeded to dig, I would have missed. Thankfully we live in the technology age.


All the best

[nicholas]

Little bit of continuation from my last post and ghosts. In the container game I can go to ground zero because I can see the container naturally. In the field ( metaphoricaly speaking since the target was on a slope) my distance fluctuation was as mentioned. Some may say this is ground zero because of the proximity but my conclusion is that as I got closer to the target I hit the ghost first since exactly underneath was nothing but 1,5m away.. Bang bang.

To try and contribute a little to the content here, and maybe help myself in the process, I find that on the physical spectrum it helps me greatly to begin my search with an east/West orientation. If I am standing north south this dosent work for me as well.

This is based on the theory that everything has polarities and in regards to metals all metals have different polarities with gold having the strongest polarity of all. In other words, golds polarity overrides all the other metals so it really can't hide except in certain situations where there is something else ( could be another metal or maybe mineral a stone ) situated on a certain axis or two axies or even on top of the metal and a situated in a certain way in relation to the poles of the earth and the location of the gold and that could throw off the reading and this definately is where a lot of dowsers lose it.

In the case of a treasure, this is just a confusion trick, and the old timers ( going back hundreds and thousands of years) knew this, ( that's why I say we must look back) but there is also the case of this could have also happened by chance since there is so much junk in the ground nowadays. This can be done with the container game for verification to see how readings change.



In regards to polarities everyone is not the same. For example I am left handed so my positive is my left. The conduit from which I receive enters through my left arm so this is my pointer and also my confirmation arm. I imagine for right handed people it's the other way around. This also plays a role in my body orientation in regards to the earth's poles as only this way can I find the true signal.

All the best

[nicholas]

Orientation 101 and to continue what was left out from the last post, Lets say you're in the mountains deep, looking for the big plane drop from ww2, you are lost, the sun is not shining, it's getting late the guys that took you up there turns out are no goods and you are on your own. You don't have a military compass but yes you do.
Make a circle put your trusty fighting knife or your keys,whatever in the center and start circling it with your L rods. One will point to the target and the other will always point magnetic north when you are on the east/West. If you are south of the target they will both point to the target and north,if you are between magnetic north and the target, one will point to the target and the other north or they may both point north depending, not everyone is the same polarity, but east/west can not be misinterpreted it's the same for everyone.

All the best

[g-sani]

G-sani,
................ This went on for years really. I finally realized that I was doing it wrong.
And so 3 years ago I adopted a different attitude, more one of the researcher and decided to not think about the results anymore, to detach. That was when things with meaning started happening for me and took me out of kindergarten shall we say.
............ This is the psychological state I strive for when dowsing. To be detached from the outcome and to look at it from the open sphere but with a clear intent.

This for the metaphysics part.

.........On the scientific part I would like to work this more in order to achieve a better balance, and not so much for treasure hunting although it is fun. But as you said, after a certain point one is not the same, I have crossed to the other side, there is no going back.
The dowsing spectrum is so vast, I see that clearly now and have come to realize that there is so much more that can be done with it.


All your thoughts above nicholas show me clearly that you are in a different level all together.
Very well said!
When somebody comes to this point and understands that dowsing is endless and that is a tool to progress yourself in all sort of planes with all sort of ways then feels the joy the pleasure and the hapinness that comes from the art showing the true world we are living.
Everything arround us is energy and as Tesla said

<< If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.>>

Here is a very interesting link for those they like to think more deeply.
https://www.one-mind-one-energy.com/Law-of-vibration.html

The above web page contains also a briefly meaning of the "Law of Vibration"
............................

EVERYTHING VIBRATES
The Law of Vibration states that everything in the Universe moves and vibrates - everything is vibrating at one speed or another. Nothing rests. Everything you see around you is vibrating at one frequency or another, and so are you. However, your frequency is different from other things in the universe and that?s why it seems like you are separated from what you see around you; people, animals, plants, trees and so on.

In truth you are not separated - you are in fact living in an ocean of energy - as we all are. We are all connected at the lowest level - a level professor John Hagelin calls The Unified Field.

Everything has its own vibrational frequency - the table - the car - the picture frame - the rock - even our thoughts and feelings. It is all governed by The Law of Vibration.

Best wishes

[WM6]

Nothing rests.





Or "Panta rhei" from old Greek (Heraclitus) philosophy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#Panta_rhei,_%22everything_flows%22

Flux

He recognizes the fundamental changing of objects with the flow of time. This is the full expression of the becoming aspect of his philosophy.
Panta rhei, "everything flows"

He is credited with the phrase πάντα ῥεῖ (panta rhei) "everything flows."[93] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-99) This famous aphorism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphorism) used to characterize Heraclitus' thought comes from Simplicius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplicius_of_Cilicia), a neoplatonist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonist), and from Plato (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato)'s Cratylus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cratylus_(dialogue)). The word rhei (as in rheology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheology)) is the Greek word for "to stream", and is etymologically related to Rhea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_(mythology)) according to Plato's Cratylus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cratylus_(dialogue)).[94] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-100)[g] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-101) Compare with the Latin adages Omnia mutantur (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnia_mutantur,_nihil_interit) and Tempora mutantur (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora_mutantur) (8 AD) and the central Buddhist doctrine of impermanence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impermanence).
The River

No man ever steps in the same river twice.


His philosophy has been summed up with another famous adage, "No man ever steps in the same river twice."[95] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-102) It can be contrasted with Parmenides's statement that "whatever is, is, and what is not cannot be." Heraclitus uses the river image more than once: Ever-newer waters flow on those who step into the same rivers.[96] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-103)
We both step and do not step in the same rivers. We are and are not.[97] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-104)
The idea is referenced twice in Plato (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato)'s Cratylus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cratylus_(dialogue)).[98] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-105)[99] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-106) Instead of "flow" Plato uses chōrei, "to change place" (χῶρος; chōros)."All entities move and nothing remains still"
"Everything changes and nothing remains still ... and ... you cannot step twice into the same stream"[h] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus#cite_note-108)

[nicholas]

The reference to orientation was really to show that dowsing is a universal survival mechanism built into our dna and a dowsing test on its own. People are.out there with dowsing rods trying to find metals and can't even find north..

Also it is definitive proof of metal polarity. There is no need to elaborate further, anyone who is seriously interested in enhancing their abilities can understand where I'm going.with this.

Yes G-sani, everything is energy, that is so true and the human body is a supertranceiver but its a little tricky to tune it in because it is so sensitive and because the tuning mechanics are directly connected to the psyche.

It's.all a balance Thanks for the link

All the best

[Douglas]

I simplify Dowsing as a science that few people know:ri muito:

[g-sani]

Dowsing has no limits. Everytime you think you know something you discover as time passes by that you knew nothing. The subject is endless.
I could describe it as a key to one's ascension.

[Mike(Mont)]

Here's the best book on dowsing. It will take you a few years to read it through.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/248999983/DivinersBiblepdf-pdf

[g-sani]

You are miles ahead Mike

[Mike(Mont)]

Carry a quartz crystal in your pocket for more dowsing power.

[g-sani]

Carry a quartz crystal in your pocket for more dowsing power.

Hahahaaa..
I used to do that.
Lapis lazuli is my favourite!

[Mike(Mont)]

I've only tried quartz and it does give more power. Typically when you walk up tot a target the rod will respond from farther away. The Marcel Vogel crystal cut is considered one of the best. The authentic ones are very expensive but you can find cheap imitations that will work.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-VOGEL-12-FACET-CRYSTAL-GENUINE-AND-PROFESSIONALLY-CORRECTLY-CUT/333408121064?hash=item4da0ac30e8:g:GBgAAOSwJYVd2CQ t

[Mike(Mont)]

Natural is better than synthetic but hard to find. So a synthetic one nearly the same shape as the authentic one in the link should work. 12 sided seems more energetic than the 6 sided.

BTW, Marcel Vogel worked for IBM, was the company's most prolific inventor. he invented stuff like the liquid crystal display, the black light, magnetic drives on computers, and countless stuff to do with crystals. When he was young he almost died, basically had a near death experience. he was fascinated by lightning bugs/fireflys, and went on to do work in bioluminescence which went on to become the black light and fluorescent paints. I have a couple videos of him and the guy had the demeanor a little child. No doubt that attitude had something to do with all his inventions.

Here is a link and there are other links at this page:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-Lkry-newtab&hsimp=yhs-newtab&hspart=Lkry&p=marcel+vogel#id=3&vid=b5cf40d633abd5389917563e07ed43f8&action=click

[Mike(Mont)]

Hold a horseshoe magnet in your left hand. There is a book titled "Magnet Dowsing" explains it. Also Hills talks about holding a small bar magnet in your fingers. But you need to read his "Supersensonics" book to get all the details.

[nicholas]

Natural is better than synthetic but hard to find. So a synthetic one nearly the same shape as the authentic one in the link should work. 12 sided seems more energetic than the 6 sided.

BTW, Marcel Vogel worked for IBM, was the company's most prolific inventor. he invented stuff like the liquid crystal display, the black light, magnetic drives on computers, and countless stuff to do with crystals. When he was young he almost died, basically had a near death experience. he was fascinated by lightning bugs/fireflys, and went on to do work in bioluminescence which went on to become the black light and fluorescent paints. I have a couple videos of him and the guy had the demeanor a little child. No doubt that attitude had something to do with all his inventions.

Here is a link and there are other links at this page:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-Lkry-newtab&hsimp=yhs-newtab&hspart=Lkry&p=marcel+vogel#id=3&vid=b5cf40d633abd5389917563e07ed43f8&action=click

Mike thanks for posting that link.

I had the opportunity to hold a synthetic Vogel in my hand recently. Had a negative reading on it right away that's my experience so far and after this, I am working on aquiring an original as soon as possible.

[Mike(Mont)]

I have an authentic six-sided synthetic. I bought a cheap natural twelve-sided non-authentic and it works better.

Another technique involves breathing alternately through your nostrils. Hold your finger to close left nostril, breathe in right side, then close right side, exhale left, then inhale left, exhale right, inhale right, exhale left. For about five minutes. All the time closeing the opposite nostril. This balances I don't know what it is, but your body every two hours or so has a dominate nostril switches to the opposite nostril. This technique balances things and gives better perception. I think it involves the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems, you'll have to read about it.


I think this one came from the book "Energy, Matter, & Form" but there's another book "The Science of Breath" discusses other techniques from ancient India. They've known this stuff for thousands of years. While your breathing is autonomous system, it is the easiest one to consciously control. Kind of a gateway to the control of other autonomous systems.

[WM6]

Had a negative reading on it right away that's my experience so far

.


Hi nicholas

What do you mean by "Had a negative reading on it".

Did you sense some awareness by your brain (your body sense) or
you measure something by electronic meters?

[Mike(Mont)]

Marcel Vogel has a video on clearing the crystal.

[nicholas]

Hi nicholas

What do you mean by "Had a negative reading on it".

Did you sense some awareness by your brain (your body sense) or
you measure something by electronic meters?

Brain/body sense .Negative pendulum reading as soon as I held it in my hand.
Maybe it was glass. She said she paid around 50 euro for it. 12 sided.

[Mike(Mont)]

Most all the natural ones have inclusions/imperfections. But yeah, gotta clear it first. Do you have the video link to Vogel crystal clearing? I'll look for it.

Look here

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-Lkry-newtab&hsimp=yhs-newtab&hspart=Lkry&p=marcel+vogel+crystal+clearing#id=1&vid=b5cf40d633abd5389917563e07ed43f8&action=view

[nicholas]

Most all the natural ones have inclusions/imperfections. But yeah, gotta clear it first. Do you have the video link to Vogel crystal clearing? I'll look for it.

Look here

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-Lkry-newtab&hsimp=yhs-newtab&hspart=Lkry&p=marcel+vogel+crystal+clearing#id=1&vid=b5cf40d633abd5389917563e07ed43f8&action=view

Thanks for that.
After the above posts on crystals and my recent first encounter, I felt it imperative to research this further in a crystal shop and had some very I interesting results. The test time was about 60 minutes so I
it is safe to say that I was quite thorough.




The test involved 5 Vogel crystals which were in a price category of 130-270 euro different sizes but all were 12 sided cuts.

Also tested were 5 crystals in a lower price category, 30-50 euro , these were faceted but not Vogel type. I don't know what to call them but from the little research done online, it seems that they would fall into the " tuning fork " category.

Conclusion is that the crystal strength can be measured in units by a capable dowser and since not all crystals have the same unit measurement, naturally some are stronger than others which equates to a higher resonance, so this was.my criteria in the correct choice of a crystal .

After today's experiment my conclusion is that I would never buy a crystal, especially an expensive Vogel online as I wouldn't be able to measure it .

I did find one Vogel with a very high
measurement this was priced at 157 but also found a tuning fork crystal with a much higher measurement than the Vogel and this cost 29 .

[nicholas]

Hello again. Just to add a little bit more insight in this post and would like to refer back to page 2 and comment made by g-sani in regards to tuning which is the key to it all literally. It is not the dowsers ability or inability because as I stated this a natural gift which all humans have so with practice and time it becomes easier. Where it gets lost and there is frustration is in the tuning part and I will explain later why. Basicly the tool is not tuned and this is where everyone is frustrated. The dowsing rods are not tuned to resonate with the the vibration of the metals so naturally someone's first guess is that their ability is lacking, and the game with the mirrors and ghosts starts to play. There is no mirrors or ghosts only a mistuned set of rods

As I said before all metals have polarities and this should be the basis for any research if you want to enhance your dowsing ability. The next step is to tune the rods to the proper resonances. This happened to me by chance and after results in testing plots plus verifying in the field on actual targets and reverse engineering it all, I dare say I have rods which locate to ground zero and separate yes. How do I know this? Because the targets were found with the untuned rods and verified with a detector, but the Only target not found in the same patch of ground was the yellow. This was found with the tuned rods.

These were made to my specs (which were not correct incidentally) but the cnc man made an "error" on the specs and it turned out that by accident they were correct.
The humorous part of this all is that I had them for two years in my toolbox and took them out last week thinking of selling them and that's how I found it. No need for more details as it takes away from the original post. The " key" is a tuned set if rods. They should and will take you to ground zero and sit in a position as to distinguish the metal. There is nothing else.
To add to my scientific curiosity in the field, my buddy who has never dowsed before but has seen me many times and after doing field tests for locating and metal separation and I showed him where is the yellow, he asked to try. ( because he was not sure if he was believing what he was seeing)
The rods did the same thing for him as they do for me. After this it was all reverse engineered and the conclusion is the tuning of the rods. There is nothing else . Everything vibrates is the key , you need the correct antenna to pick it up. I'm not here selling anything and please do not ask it took me too long to find the answers so I am not prepared to share . I have given many clues. Thank you all for your insight Have a great Summer.

One last word like attracts like, no mineralization...that is a mistuned rod.