New model Crypton OBMD-3

[ANDREAS]

This is the prototype my new design model crypton OBMD-3. This is the first on world real long range detector for all old buried targets and together alarm if the target is gold.
Normal detect all old buried Au,Cu,Ag for long distance, but... if user go near the target OBMD-3 can make automatically discrimination and start a extra yellow led alarm if target is Gold
Now user can detect a target and he know if is gold or not. In this case he don't lost a interest target, because use a unit for gold detection.
He can find other interest targets. As you know many times we have gold inside a box. It's the dream if we believe a unit can detect gold inside a box. With this new design we can detect this box and is our choice if take it
The first stage is 40% more sensitivity from OBMD-2 with auto tune and more extras and of course easy calibration by user and hold calibration. The second stage detect only gold and work automatically near distance from target
Here i draw a new Gold sensor, after study all parameters many many years. Very small size without ferrite, without ionic chamber etc. This sensor is more sensitivity from all.
OBMD-3 has a extra trimmer for calibration sensitivity Gold sensor on your country.
For all old users crypton , they can upgrade with low cost old models with new. This is a policy marketing for all old users trust and use our models. In this case you can contact via email for pre-order.
For new customers you can order for America mr Tim Williams or for middle-East -Greece mr Loizos konstantinou after official presentation new model on our site www.crypton.com.gr Start production and official presentation the first two weeks of December 2014.

P.S Is choice admin if he need to place this thread to another location main forum etc

Best regards

[ouiarabe]

Andreas congratulations on your beautiful Crypton OBMD-3 and its beautiful design
good luck

[aft_72005]

Hi Andreas
Congratulation. Seeing nice work , I hope more success for you:thumb:
Best regards.

[MIJ]

Hi Andreas,

This new addition to your OBMD-3 prototype is certainly a brilliant idea, giving the hunter the option to detect normal good quality finds, with the added benefit of the automatic gold led when gold is detected.

I look forward to hearing more news and test results with this new OBMD-3.

Congratulations Andreas please keep us updated.

[Funfinder]

Seems this is pretty the same "walk from north to south" technology as Mineoro
(read the info written on the front-panel of the OBMD-3)

And what is inbetween north and south? The magnetical field lines.

So even if gold disturbes them in a different way than iron or copper or bronze etc.
this has to be scientifically tested - especially to show the limits how long it works at all.

And resalers like Dell Winders are for shure not good for raising the reputation of it.


btw. the main problem is that most regions are absolutly not free of metal-junk
so even if it would works its a) useless because a detector that shows stuff from
50m away gets totally confused if every 5m is anything (and I doubt the pure gold
only discrimination can handle such an overload of detection-information) and
b) magnetical field conditions, ground mineralization, altitude, humidity and many
more crucial factors are different everywhere and if the detector is not adjustable
to them and still works pretty well unter tougher conditions it doesn't works outside
the well known and "save" or even completly artifical test-field-area.


btw. the main reason why such types like Dell Winders are not sitting in jail are
stupid LRL-believers and users who are ashamed going to the police because they
don't wanna be seen as fooled idiots who are unable to check out if things really
work in the first time!

There is nothing more easy than testing if L-Rods or other crazy dowsing devices
proven work or not - but many superstitious and every stupid lie believing freaks
are even unable to solve such simple issues. But as we know from some religions:


This world is still full with primitive minds and their ridiculous medieval thinking! :angry:

Pick up a stone anywhere you want, tell them its a precious energy-gem and
sell it for 50 bucks - they will love it and "feel" super energized! Hahaha!!! :lol:

Proves or testing stuff before - not for such "mentally challenged" dreamers.


Soon we will find out how good the OBMD-3 really works and if it functions
as described at all, because even if this forum warns about LRLs this world
doesn't gets tired to provide enough persons with uncritical mind and too
much money who seems to be not afraid of losing some bucks as long as
it satisfies their wildest dreams! :D

Puting Dell Winders into the same boat for shure was not the best idea
if Crypton wants to look like a scientific, reliable and seriously working firm!
Such completely stubborn LRL-fanatics will ruin the complete good reputation
if the OBMD-3 really should be an useful detection-device! We will see - good luck.



And you OBMD fans here first should have tested it and provide trustworthy proofs
until you scream, yell and play the big tralala hooray fanfares!

But how the hell should be "fast-believing customers" provide any serious
info if even companies like Mineoro or OKM are completly unable to do it?!

At least the unbelievable crazy work of Dell Winders has been tested wrong
by Carl Moreland which is known as a technical and realistic thinking person
and having a financial and ideologic cooperation with him was probably the
worst decision of Crypton it ever could make.

[ANDREAS]

Seems this is pretty the same "walk from north to south" technology as Mineoro
(read the info written on the front-panel of the OBMD-3)................
...At least the unbelievable crazy work of Dell Winders has been tested wrong
by Carl Moreland which is known as a technical and realistic thinking person
and having a financial and ideologic cooperation with him was probably the
worst decision of Crypton it ever could make.
Thank you for your opinions
If you come next year in my country for holidays or ... It's my pleasure to meet to do together a test and of course to doing video recording
But maybe, is better, have your opinions on thread "real clone Alonso-PD" about video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1alvya5uNW0
If you don't like this video or you have not something more, please wait very soon i have final video and results about PD only for gold.
best regards

[Funfinder]

Thx for the correct answer and for the invitation, I want to visit some countries in that
region anyway. If I use and test this devices the same way you do and I get the same
results of course it would be very convincing to me, but I would not test it that way.

After watching the video(s) I have to say that such tests should be not at some
garden land but deep in the woods and the detector should be placed on some
moveable roller or something so it works without someone holding it and
with always exactly the same distance and angle to the ground.

This way you can drag it with a rope and only if the gold-stuff is nearby
(a golden ring 2meters left or right to show its not some usual
metal detection effect) it should clearly and repeatable induce signals.

Seen from the technical aspect and because of your long years of experience
and how you are convinced that it works perhaps we have here some
directional antenna effect that occures especially strong on rings.
Even a very small AM (world) receiver already receives highly directional
the weak AM waves from hundreds of km away so the effect of a nearby
metal object may be possible somehow if the receiver is extremly directional
and the feedback-circuit with its highly critical adjustment is able to sense
this EM-field distortion caused by the metal object.

However this effect would have nothing to do with "long time ago buried"
because this is a myth that gold would be able to create such interactive-effects
or in other words: The surrounding soil adjusts itselfs EM-field very strong
just because of a little metal-object.

btw. the most simple explaination would be that the receiver gets holded
without that someone self recognizes it just a bit closer to the ground while
coming near the golden objects but I doubt you would not recognize this.
However thats why its so important that the detector needs a fixed track
with all the time exactly the same distance and angle to the ground for
excluding such possible reasons and to get real failproof test results.

It may be also important to find out if the detected object has to be directly
in the extended center-line of the big coil or of the ferrite-coil to create a
possibility of most exact pinpointing (because usual the object is buried).


Anyway, my warning about Dell Winders is serious, because if you wanna
see and have the Crypton as a respected special-detector you must not mix
it up with L-rods, dowsing stuff and all kind of similar pseudo-science-esoteric-crap!

If the Crypton OBMD-3 meanwhile really works on a repeatable testable detection
level this is a huge difference compared with "just by coincidence"-detectors which
just give positive results because every few meters may be something to find anyway.

Don't let your reputation and those of your meanwhile improved detectors get ruined
by persons and companies who can not pass any real reasonable tests at all.
If you think that the OBMD-3 is ready and working for and at America you will
find much better ways or you even can ship it directly from Greece.

Good luck and please consider my positively meant factors.

[ANDREAS]

As you know, i am not dowser, in this case i have not opinions. About OBMD-3 attachment photo. This is IR lens for Gold sensor, was made design and manufactured by me. This Fernel lens work in very critical resonate IR fasma and one video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j951AO6LZv4&feature=youtu.be, experiments this lens with light and placing back panel OBMD-3.
About PD only for Gold, after study very well all results, be sure 100% working. Need only free time for final tests
best regards

[Funfinder]

Its good that you are not a dowser because the "talent" of dowsing is like
the talent of witchcraft, fortune telling or healing just by hands-touching -
nothing seriously, nothing real provable, nothing reliable, nothing at all!

Greece is like Italy a very religious and superstitious country but this
doesn't mean that the angels or spirits will lead people there to tresures.


Andreas, I made myself some thoughts and I found out some important things:


It's not enough that the OBMD works for you, because if you wanna share
it with other people or sell it the meaning is that it works for others, too.

The most simple test would be the following:

Give some person that doesn't know where are your test-objects etc. are buried
the OBMD into his hand, go together to your testfield, explain beforewards how
it works and let them find your buried stuff on its own.
Don't help after you have shown that person how the device work, not even
go closer than 10 meter!
If your detector really works it should be absolute no problem for this person
to get the same good find-results than you do!
You can repeat this whole test with 10 more persons if some are unable to
follow your directions and advices, but really without help and suggestion
this and that!
After the person has entered the testfield it is absolutly on its own
and if it fails to detect your buried stuff everyone else might fail, too!
Especially customers from foreign countries with totally different land-conditions.


And instead of your test-garden you better should first use the OBMD
to find a spot where absolutly no signal is at all and bury stuff there!!!

Because how will you know that the signal you get in your test-garden
really is caused just by the metal-object? You may have very special
mineralic or even ferro-magnetic ground-conditions which cause the
anomaly where the OBMD react without you know it. It can react on
whatever.


And infrared-sensor?!
This only works if there is a cellar below the ground in the morning
or evening because that way the above floor-temperature is slightly
different compared to the other soil. And even gold-objects will not
radiate temperature-rays if was heaten up by the sun if its buried too deep.


The best thing would be if you have 3 persons and you make the test somewhere
at a place where you have tested beforewards that there is absolutly no signal!

At that area you bury something and you test that it works for you.
Next you look for 2 persons, one is controlling that you really don't
give any subtile hints or tips to lead the test person to the detection spot
or that he should hold the detector slightly lower when the area of the
buried item comes closer etc.!
If the test person is unable to locate the find the same good as you can
the detector is clearly not improved and realiable enough for the outside world!

And such tests you should repeat at least 10 times for going shure that minimum
5 out of 10 persons are having real good detection-results without absolutly any
direct help from you at the test region or wood !!!!

If you really built something useful this here is no magic but based on
electro-magnetical principles and if its really works it will work repeatable
and it would be very easy for other persons geting the same results as you.

Good luck.

[anis12kha]

OBMD-3.
About PD only for Gold, after study very well all results, be sure 100% working. Need only free time for final tests
best regards

is it out on the market ?

[ANDREAS]

is it out on the market ?
Need small time for ready

[ANDREAS]

Hi All
I Introduce you, our new model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP_QmBhEnAI
best regards

[anis12kha]

Hi All
I Introduce you, our new model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP_QmBhEnAI
best regards
all the best

[zalloum]

Been fallowing up and trying many detectors ,
what Iam hearing now is encouraging news to work positively and not to waist time and effort, at least have a meaning working and seeing a good results
thanks for all
ZALLOUM

[zalloum]

This is the prototype my new design model crypton OBMD-3. This is the first on world real long range detector for all old buried targets and together alarm if the target is gold.
Normal detect all old buried Au,Cu,Ag for long distance, but... if user go near the target OBMD-3 can make automatically discrimination and start a extra yellow led alarm if target is Gold
Now user can detect a target and he know if is gold or not. In this case he don't lost a interest target, because use a unit for gold detection.
He can find other interest targets. As you know many times we have gold inside a box. It's the dream if we believe a unit can detect gold inside a box. With this new design we can detect this box and is our choice if take it
The first stage is 40% more sensitivity from OBMD-2 with auto tune and more extras and of course easy calibration by user and hold calibration. The second stage detect only gold and work automatically near distance from target
Here i draw a new Gold sensor, after study all parameters many many years. Very small size without ferrite, without ionic chamber etc. This sensor is more sensitivity from all.
OBMD-3 has a extra trimmer for calibration sensitivity Gold sensor on your country.
For all old users crypton , they can upgrade with low cost old models with new. This is a policy marketing for all old users trust and use our models. In this case you can contact via email for pre-order.
For new customers you can order for America mr Tim Williams or for middle-East -Greece mr Loizos konstantinou after official presentation new model on our site www.crypton.com.gr (http://www.crypton.com.gr) Start production and official presentation the first two weeks of December 2014.

P.S Is choice admin if he need to place this thread to another location main forum etc

Best regards
Hello,
when I watch vedios of the instrument ,I cant hear the beb whie diod flashes , would it be posible to have a vibretor or to have a plug for earbud on instrument when i deside to buy the OBMD-3
thanks for your time,
Zalloum :) :) :)

[zalloum]

Hi All
I Introduce you, our new model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP_QmBhEnAI
best regards

HELLO, iS IT GOING TO BE AS PRICED AS THE OBMD-2
REGARDS
zALLOUM :) :) :)

[zalloum]

Need small time for ready

HOW LOOOOOOOOONG ????

[Funfinder]

The question is:

How many years of experience Andreas now has with his
special detectors and how significant are the made tests
if it comes to sell this stuff to the "outside world".

If the tests were not good enough, he is reliable for selling
stuff that doesn't work outside of his test-areas.

If we see it as an improvement of a principle based circuit,
within 4 years (the estimated time Andreas work now with this stuff)
it should be possible to improve it - if it has (had) any good potential of
producing relevant detection-signals at all.

btw. in my opinion this new infared stuff is bullsh*t and will have no
effect at all. A gold-bar 10cm below ground may have heatened up
in daytime so the surface of the soil is "hotter" at dawn - but just 1° perhaps.
And this is no ultra-zoom infrared-lens so it would really see something.

Together with this suspicious connection to Dell Winders this new unproven
infrared-thingy leads both into some not good or serious direction ...
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/images/buttons/edit.gif (http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=150828)

[ANDREAS]

Hi Funfinder
About infrared, i don't read temperature as you say, but somethink other.
For example x-ray you can read about method detection via photodiode as example for learn search google "x-ray detector photodiode" for learn more.
Here we have not x-ray but a other field this is.........
About Dell Winders. Sorry but i cannot understand you. I don't know Dell, never we have contact and of course i am not dowser
best regards