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roccocoin
02-12-2014, 12:02 PM
I'm new here, I greet all the members of this noble forum,I'm Italian, fond of long mainsails locator search for gold and metals, turning I saw this video on youtube;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtOZJXwRDH4&feature=youtu.be

and can someone help me to show me a list and pcb components to build it?
tanks

WM6
02-12-2014, 02:26 PM
Salutti Rocco

Of course someone can help you here.

Author of LRL creation from your video, is "detectoman", member of this forum.

roccocoin
02-12-2014, 05:43 PM
Salutti Rocco

Of course someone can help you here.

Author of LRL creation from your video, is "detectoman", member of this forum.


hope detectorman help me to build this tool, or even someone else who could help me

WM6
02-12-2014, 07:16 PM
hope detectorman help me to build this tool, or even someone else who could help me



I think that this is the same construction as published in ITMD book.

Qiaozhi
02-12-2014, 09:59 PM
I think that this is the same construction as published in ITMD book.
TOTeM does not use an omega coil.

roccocoin
02-13-2014, 10:17 AM
TOTeM does not use an omega coil.


hello everyone, I'm trying to build a long range that can find gold like the one in the video that I posted, there are several models, if someone want to help me with stupid, pcb ecomponenti, I'd be grateful, I'm in Italy so do not take off your gold from your areas are far away.
are not so good at electronics so I can not even read a wiring diagram, so I need some help I'm really interested to this equipment long range, and then what the coil and OMEGA as we build? a big hello to all members of this noble forum

roccocoin
02-13-2014, 10:19 AM
I see that but nobody helps me, I only asked to build a long range, I asked only photo of pcb and components, then build it to me I am in Italy

WM6
02-13-2014, 10:31 AM
Why you need to copy whole page of your translator?

http://hobidetektori.serbianforum.info/t110-alonso-pistol-detektor

Qiaozhi
02-13-2014, 11:58 AM
hello everyone, I'm trying to build a long range that can find gold like the one in the video that I posted, there are several models, if someone want to help me with stupid, pcb ecomponenti, I'd be grateful, I'm in Italy so do not take off your gold from your areas are far away.
are not so good at electronics so I can not even read a wiring diagram, so I need some help I'm really interested to this equipment long range, and then what the coil and OMEGA as we build? a big hello to all members of this noble forum
If you want to experiment with an all-electronic pistol-type detector, but you cannot even read a schematic, you are going to have enormous problems. I would first suggest that you study some basic electronics, otherwise you are most likely doomed to failure.
After some time in electronics study, you should read these articles ->
http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reports.dat
and maybe get a copy of ITMD in order to build TOTeM ->
http://www.geotech1.com/itmd
Although TOTeM is a completely documented experimental pistol detector, it would be difficult to build for a non-electronics person, and even then there is no guarantee that you will find treasure. As stated in ITMD - Here there be dragons!

Dave J.
02-14-2014, 07:22 AM
I'm new here, I greet all the members of this noble forum,I'm Italian, fond of long mainsails locator search for gold and metals, turning I saw this video on youtube;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtOZJXwRDH4&feature=youtu.be

and can someone help me to show me a list and pcb components to build it?
tanks

That's a short range locator (several centimeters), not an LRL. The cheapest metal detector we manufacture here in El Paso TX (the BH Junior, about US$60 retail) will detect a ring like that in air out to about 10-15 cm, and we have other metal detector models that will air test a ring like that past 25 cm. Not only that, nobody disputes whether real metal detectors work or not, the disputes are over how well they work in certain situations.

This is very different from "LRL's", where nobody's identified one yet that can be demonstrated to actually locate what it's supposed to locate without fakery, and the people who sell them can't even agree on how they work. See the 10 Hz thread for how silly it gets, I tell people how to buy a 10 Hz transmitter and receiver system that actually work, and they refuse to talk about it! Meanwhile one guy insists that if a fellow in Eastern Europe can make a pan stick to his forehead, that proves LRL's work scientifically, did you follow that line of reasoning?

Meanwhile back to the video you've linked, here's how funny it gets: a guy who says he's got an LRL (!) is proudly demonstrating in a video (!) that it can't see a ring farther than several cm(!)

Through fantasy, one can pretend that cm's are km's, but the real world does a poor job of obeying the fantasies of mere mortals.

roccocoin
02-14-2014, 11:34 AM
ok, anyway thank you all for giving me answers, and at the same time I appeal to you to know what I could build for gold that feels pretty underground gold.

Nicolas
02-14-2014, 07:01 PM
That's a short range locator (several centimeters), not an LRL. The cheapest metal detector we manufacture here in El Paso TX (the BH Junior, about US$60 retail) will detect a ring like that in air out to about 10-15 cm, and we have other metal detector models that will air test a ring like that past 25 cm. Not only that, nobody disputes whether real metal detectors work or not, the disputes are over how well they work in certain situations.

This is very different from "LRL's", where nobody's identified one yet that can be demonstrated to actually locate what it's supposed to locate without fakery, and the people who sell them can't even agree on how they work. See the 10 Hz thread for how silly it gets, I tell people how to buy a 10 Hz transmitter and receiver system that actually work, and they refuse to talk about it! Meanwhile one guy insists that if a fellow in Eastern Europe can make a pan stick to his forehead, that proves LRL's work scientifically, did you follow that line of reasoning?

Meanwhile back to the video you've linked, here's how funny it gets: a guy who says he's got an LRL (!) is proudly demonstrating in a video (!) that it can't see a ring farther than several cm(!)

Through fantasy, one can pretend that cm's are km's, but the real world does a poor job of obeying the fantasies of mere mortals.


Hi Dave J

Why you have said the PDK or LRL detect only ... Cm??

Hi Roccocoin

look then this video


http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=15i97jt&s=6#.Uv5zu4Uqcih

and this topic

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18933

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18771

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18145

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18964

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18587&page=5

Buona fortuna amico

roccocoin
02-14-2014, 07:28 PM
thanks really thanks for the help

roccocoin
02-15-2014, 05:08 AM
hello nicolas, then you say that you can build your totem? how far can feel 1 or 2 gold rings? underground and how many cm? but I need to attach the pcb already developed and parts list, pcb already developed because I'm not able to develop a huge thanks

detectoman
02-16-2014, 03:11 PM
hello roccocoin, for me isnt easy gave to you any tegnical explanations in english or italian on this lrl detector if you cant read in spanish, in these video the ferrite only is doing how null part, in other order,s thing, i no remember the exacly number coils turns of these detector so i think i cant help to you, these circuit no respond at menor turn error,s coil or thicknees coper wire, too my english is very bad doing great difficultous for my forum comunications excusme

hola roccocoin, para mi no es facil dar a usted algunas explicaciones tegnicas en ingles o italiano sobre mi lrl detector, si usted no puede leerme en español, la ferrita solo la esta haciendo como anulador, entre otras cosas yo no recuerdo el exacto numero de vueltas de los coils de ese detector, ya que los tome de aparte, yo creo que yo no lo puedo ayudar correctamente a usted a hacer ese detector, ya que ese circuito no responde eficientemente al menor cambio de numero de vueltas de las bobinas y gruesor del alambre de cobre, tambien mi ingles no es nada bueno y es mi dificultad para comunicarme con el foro

detectoman
02-16-2014, 03:25 PM
roccocoin, my opinion on other points, see the circuit 5 of morgan pd, is very much major what this circuit of my video, the range of this dectector of my video, isnt how lrl but how metal detector and isnt good by little gold particuls, so i have our operation for me prospections :)

detectoman
02-16-2014, 03:47 PM
i suggest always how lrl the circuit 5, but today exist distinct circuit 5 modifications, the circuit 5 show any difficult on electronic put at point, take appropiate operation adjust automatic optime nivel, any cir 5 pcb configurations no respond good due a nearby error of transistor distances these transistor can satured if is near, or far, or inadecuate power regulator, the circuit 5 pd isnt easy in field operation due to ferrite system, for the need of cardinal direction detection, each personal model circuit configuration of cir 5 pd need specific power regulation too any brand transistors bc´s no have the specificied gain for pd right function, no exist a easy lrl circuit, the reason is because the lrl are critic circuits equilibre, those no detect large distance, in low point of power

roccocoin
02-16-2014, 05:49 PM
detectorman ok, thank you for the explanation, not ever I'll be able to build this metal

roccocoin
02-18-2014, 11:02 AM
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18794

hello I might be able to project this totem how many turns per coil tx and rx for how much? thanks