PDK inside

[ANDREAS]

Hi all
Last month via a friend i have my hands a PDK 2.1 from Morgan.
The machine fell from the hands of my friend in a ravine and destroyed. After this my friend gave to me PDK if I can do repairs.
More out of curiosity and less for repairs, I decided to open foam and see what I can do.
I can not post here contains what and how exactly it worked, because is commercial project by Morgan.
But i can publish some photo's inside machine for view all members this amateur work
I published this thread because, as others don't like them publish personal schematics or circuits without their approval, so i don't like use my modifications that I've done without my approval. Sometimes a small courtesy is enough.
But if approval is not given or there is no courtesy, but only ironically etc, i forced to use the same methd
Yes PDK use many modifications by me
So this is enough for me (use my mods for commercial project without my remission or a small note from my mods) start again with this LRL and draw new modifications, because PDK with standards schematic-circuit is a circuit without something more interest for me.
What i can do. It will maintain the basic design without extra something in the circuit. Basically i need change the final drive piezo stage and sensitivity the first preamp stage with small tips for reject more false signals. In the basic circuit i would only add one extra mod for the appliance can be adjusted by me in the search-area without protection calibration very-very easy. I feel this way everything can work properly.
You know the big problem is calibration. If i calibrate and protect all circuits or coils my lab, maybe don't work this LRL other search-area. Please you remember some LRL need extreme calibration for fine work. It's so difficult use this method, because, with ONLY difference temperature sometimes LRL can untune.
Honestly, I want to mention something. There was no case to deal with this PDK or i try to copy the circuit.


But here I have a different situation. Supposedly there is a forum for amateurs, but only see attempts to replicate and exploitation.
And the funny thing is that some want to hide and posing for amateur and they helps others, in practice many members has double face
At least here , I feel good about myself, why i work again with something i studied enough time before and nobody can tell me that I make a copy.
I will publish here the progress of the whole structure in my free time
Ways of presenting work correctly my personal LRL or not, I think i have something, that no one can have doubts
regards

[aft_72005]

Hi Andreas
Interesting !! magic pdk removed foam . my question from Morgan but without reply by him,
I ask from you , is pdk regenerative receiver??????
Best regards.

[vali]

hi andreas .hi andreas .I know that the project has a ferrite-based Morgan? But Professor Andreas . Hide glue circuit Stone A circuit assembly in the air. Morgan :nono:

[nelson]

Hi Andreas

Very nice pictures and i will like to ask whats below the green plate, is it a coil for transmitter?

Best regards

Nelson



Hi all
Last month via a friend i have my hands a PDK 2.1 from Morgan.
The machine fell from the hands of my friend in a ravine and destroyed. After this my friend gave to me PDK if I can do repairs.
More out of curiosity and less for repairs, I decided to open foam and see what I can do.
I can not post here contains what and how exactly it worked, because is commercial project by Morgan.
But i can publish some photo's inside machine for view all members this amateur work
I published this thread because, as others don't like them publish personal schematics or circuits without their approval, so i don't like use my modifications that I've done without my approval. Sometimes a small courtesy is enough.
But if approval is not given or there is no courtesy, but only ironically etc, i forced to use the same methd
Yes PDK use many modifications by me
So this is enough for me (use my mods for commercial project without my remission or a small note from my mods) start again with this LRL and draw new modifications, because PDK with standards schematic-circuit is a circuit without something more interest for me.
What i can do. It will maintain the basic design without extra something in the circuit. Basically i need change the final drive piezo stage and sensitivity the first preamp stage with small tips for reject more false signals. In the basic circuit i would only add one extra mod for the appliance can be adjusted by me in the search-area without protection calibration very-very easy. I feel this way everything can work properly.
You know the big problem is calibration. If i calibrate and protect all circuits or coils my lab, maybe don't work this LRL other search-area. Please you remember some LRL need extreme calibration for fine work. It's so difficult use this method, because, with ONLY difference temperature sometimes LRL can untune.
Honestly, I want to mention something. There was no case to deal with this PDK or i try to copy the circuit.


But here I have a different situation. Supposedly there is a forum for amateurs, but only see attempts to replicate and exploitation.
And the funny thing is that some want to hide and posing for amateur and they helps others, in practice many members has double face
At least here , I feel good about myself, why i work again with something i studied enough time before and nobody can tell me that I make a copy.
I will publish here the progress of the whole structure in my free time
Ways of presenting work correctly my personal LRL or not, I think i have something, that no one can have doubts
regards

[Seden]

Andreas,

Picture didn't show any of the circuit,just the box with foam and a cover over whatever's there. At least show the sensor on the outside of the mystery box.

Randy

[ANDREAS]

For aft_7205, vali, nelson.... etc
I don't like publish false infos, of course I respect the hard work by morgan etc (amateur or not no matter for me) and don't allow me to give you, more information without permission. The photo's shows the "General" inside the device.
If you need more infos, you can ask morgan.
I just want to correct a mistake. Τhis is last version PDK2.2
Personally, i will deal only with my mods,i will improve and presentations. I Repeat again. If my personal LRL (build my free time) work or not, I have found a method, with this method not there by any doubt.
regards

[aft_72005]

For aft_7205, vali, nelson.... etc
I don't like publish false infos, of course I respect the hard work by morgan etc (amateur or not no matter for me) and don't allow me to give you, more information without permission. The photo's shows the "General" inside the device.
If you need more infos, you can ask morgan.
I just want to correct a mistake. Τhis is last version PDK2.2
Personally, i will deal only with my mods,i will improve and presentations. I Repeat again. If my personal LRL (build my free time) work or not, I have found a method, with this method not there by any doubt.
regards

Hi Andreas
I asked from Morgan but without reply yet , therefore I asking from you .
Best regards.

[vali]

hi aft . Maybe your question here :cool::cool::cool: ???
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18145&page=11

[Morgan]

For aft_7205, vali, nelson.... etc
I don't like publish false infos, of course I respect the hard work by morgan etc (amateur or not no matter for me) and don't allow me to give you, more information without permission. The photo's shows the "General" inside the device.
If you need more infos, you can ask morgan.
I just want to correct a mistake. Τhis is last version PDK2.2
Personally, i will deal only with my mods,i will improve and presentations. I Repeat again. If my personal LRL (build my free time) work or not, I have found a method, with this method not there by any doubt.
regards

Hello

Thanks Andreas,to not desmantle completly this PDK-2,yes is the old model 2, not the 2.1 or 2.2 this last models are more powerful.

I know from the picture ,this PDK-2 was sold long time ago to a person from Atens,name Charris Dimitris G., this person ask me a few questions about if was possible to change the FINE TUNING linear Potentiometer for a MULTITURN and this make the calibration more easy,i said NO,if he change the Pot. this PDK cant locate more targets,i made many tests using Multiturns...

BTW: I have a few emails from Charris telling about his finds with this PDK-2, that i ask him photos but never get this photos...

I dont understand why he not contact me for repair the PDK-2,and i can easily upgrade this one for the 2.1, as i told,the model PDK-2 is very dependent of VHF electromagnetic waves ...

keep your mind just on repair and not say too much about this AMATEUR LRL,if you respect others,others will respect you,not break the line ;)


Regards

[Morgan]

Hello

Thanks Andreas,to not desmantle completly this PDK-2,yes is the old model 2, not the 2.1 or 2.2 this last models are more powerful.

I know from the picture ,this PDK-2 was sold long time ago to a person from Atens,name Charris Dimitris G., this person ask me a few questions about if was possible to change the FINE TUNING linear Potentiometer for a MULTITURN and this make the calibration more easy,i said NO,if he change the Pot. this PDK cant locate more targets,i made many tests using Multiturns...

BTW: I have a few emails from Charris telling about his finds with this PDK-2, that i ask him photos but never get this photos...

I dont understand why he not contact me for repair the PDK-2,and i can easily upgrade this one for the 2.1, as i told,the model PDK-2 is very dependent of VHF electromagnetic waves ...

keep your mind just on repair and not say too much about this AMATEUR LRL,if you respect others,others will respect you,not break the line ;)


Regards

Here is a photo of this PDK,i allways take photos of all PDKs i sold

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[Morgan]

Hello

Thanks Andreas,to not desmantle completly this PDK-2,yes is the old model 2, not the 2.1 or 2.2 this last models are more powerful.

I know from the picture ,this PDK-2 was sold long time ago to a person from Atens,name Charris Dimitris G., this person ask me a few questions about if was possible to change the FINE TUNING linear Potentiometer for a MULTITURN and this make the calibration more easy,i said NO,if he change the Pot. this PDK cant locate more targets,i made many tests using Multiturns...

BTW: I have a few emails from Charris telling about his finds with this PDK-2, that i ask him photos but never get this photos...

I dont understand why he not contact me for repair the PDK-2,and i can easily upgrade this one for the 2.1, as i told,the model PDK-2 is very dependent of VHF electromagnetic waves ...

keep your mind just on repair and not say too much about this AMATEUR LRL,if you respect others,others will respect you,not break the line ;)


Regards

the great problem on this PDK-2 or others 2.1 or 2.2 or even 3 , once opened and the wires moved from the original position,they cant work the same again...

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???

[Morgan]

For aft_7205, vali, nelson.... etc
I don't like publish false infos, of course I respect the hard work by morgan etc (amateur or not no matter for me) and don't allow me to give you, more information without permission. The photo's shows the "General" inside the device.
If you need more infos, you can ask morgan.
I just want to correct a mistake. Τhis is last version PDK2.2
Personally, i will deal only with my mods,i will improve and presentations. I Repeat again. If my personal LRL (build my free time) work or not, I have found a method, with this method not there by any doubt.
regards

I check my emails , Charris receive his PDK-2 at 02-04-2012

and here is a very positive claim of objects he found in the field,if there is someone want and dont believe,i can post a photo of this emails

here the PDK-2 report of Charris data 26-04-2012 :

the PDK2 works very good...I found silver coin not so old and an old Necklace which they use before many years to put there wishes...off cource i use as well my detector.


The think that the last 6 months i work a very big project (maybe one of the biggest in Greece) is a truly story after the war more than 10 bullet boxes. The problem that i have is that i bought also the PD (with ferrite) you remember the scematic of Qiaozhi but realy i dont trust it at all, the only good think is i can detect gold more than 1,5 km (and all the scrup) but i cant go near to the target .


I need your help If you event anyLRL that i can use it for a big distance.


After 15 days ill travel to Germany to see KS700, i know so many works here in my country and im trying to have the best detectors to avoid any mistakes.


Anyway any help from you will be very helpfull.


Regards


Charris

[Morgan]

For aft_7205, vali, nelson.... etc
I don't like publish false infos, of course I respect the hard work by morgan etc (amateur or not no matter for me) and don't allow me to give you, more information without permission. The photo's shows the "General" inside the device.
If you need more infos, you can ask morgan.
I just want to correct a mistake. Τhis is last version PDK2.2
Personally, i will deal only with my mods,i will improve and presentations. I Repeat again. If my personal LRL (build my free time) work or not, I have found a method, with this method not there by any doubt.
regards

this is the circuit of a PDK-2.2 ,is diferent :


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[humhum]

Hi Master , before you said that PDK use St. Oscillator + Toroid where is this two parts in this Picture.


http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=144638&postcount=267
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=144638&postcount=267

[aft_72005]

hi aft . Maybe your question here :cool::cool::cool: ???
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18145&page=11

Hi vali
No , there wasn't reply . I think I asked very difficult question !!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

[vali]

hi aft .Morgan from one sender to one receiver for detection of ions disrupt the way it is used.:):) best regards

[Morgan]

Hi Master , before you said that PDK use St. Oscillator + Toroid where is this two parts in this Picture.


http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=144638&postcount=267
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=144638&postcount=267

Hi

when someone OPEN PDK-2.1 you will see this , but Andreas is opening and reparing the PDK-2 ...

[Morgan]

Hi

when someone OPEN PDK-2.1 you will see this , but Andreas is opening and reparing the PDK-2 ...

I have the information of greek forum PSAXTIRIA that a few people is making a PDK clone, they call this one the PDK-2.4 ,this is realy funny but not a good ideia :nono:


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[taxma1981]

Und das ist 2.5 pdk


http://s23.postimg.org/tj8huqvlz/13112010141.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/tj8huqvlz/)

[Morgan]

Und das ist 2.5 pdk


http://s23.postimg.org/tj8huqvlz/13112010141.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/tj8huqvlz/)

ok, i know also there is one person who claim to have copy completly one PDK-2.1 and start massive sales in Greece, good luck ,im not interested at all,i quit from this project some time ago.

What i not like is some PSAXTIRIA forum member Goldmaniac tell that is waithing for a PDK-2.4 from me, at the same time that he is building this clone,what is that???

this is big LIES, PDK-2.4 NOT EXIST, now starts LRL greek FORGERIES ???

EVEN IF THEY CLONE A PDK, IT WILL NEVER WORKS LIKE THE ORIGINAL

[aft_72005]

hi aft .Morgan from one sender to one receiver for detection of ions disrupt the way it is used.:):) best regards


Hi vali
This is old story , Real is other thing . :cool:

[vali]

hi aft .2x2=4 ? no)(2+2=4) 1.2.3.4=4 ?no :nono:

[nelson]

Morgan
Why you said that?
If PDK wires are moved, it means that your circuit is very unstable and has frequency drifts. We all know that this circuit has basic electronics, and also work on very low frequency spectrum, so moving some cables must not affect performance has you point out and if you have to do some tunning, it´s just easy to have a field test to work on and go for try and errors until you get the signal.
Today we also know that frequency is not to critical.
About problems with VHF, for me is just a problem with harmonics, so is just a matter of changing frequencies a little.

Regards

Nelson



the great problem on this PDK-2 or others 2.1 or 2.2 or even 3 , once opened and the wires moved from the original position,they cant work the same again...

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???

[ANDREAS]

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???
What do you say. I can do or not this is a question?
..this is the circuit of a PDK-2.2 ,is diferent : (post #13 photo)
My drawing and PCB two years ago.
All members can see the same philoshophy drawing PCB and my "signature" design.
My PCB as same "your" PCB or not?
Also this is a question

[Geo]

The point is that with the PDK some users found buried objects from long distance. If the interior is beautiful or not , i don't think that it matters.

[Morgan]

The point is that with the PDK some users found buried objects from long distance. If the interior is beautiful or not , i don't think that it matters.

I Agree ,but for some people the beauty of the box and the perfection in the circuits seems more important,even if not work as LRL,and of course the price makes the diference...

I sold only LRLs that i test here and locate the PHENOMENON,so im happy,and still hope for someone to fing a very large treasure with PDK-2.1,one original.

Regards

[Morgan]

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???
What do you say. I can do or not this is a question?
..this is the circuit of a PDK-2.2 ,is diferent : (post #13 photo)
My drawing and PCB two years ago.
All members can see the same philoshophy drawing PCB and my "signature" design.
My PCB as same "your" PCB or not?
Also this is a question

Very similar,but not the same circuit.

[Morgan]

Very similar,but not the same circuit.

Here the PCBs for compare


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18437

Your design,i dont think so,WHERE I GET YOUR PCB DESIGN ???,and the PDK-2.2 from Jimis was sold and the person who bought it try to copy the circuit,words from Jimis,want to see the emails???,well ,well...

[Morgan]

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???
What do you say. I can do or not this is a question?
..this is the circuit of a PDK-2.2 ,is diferent : (post #13 photo)
My drawing and PCB two years ago.
All members can see the same philoshophy drawing PCB and my "signature" design.
My PCB as same "your" PCB or not?
Also this is a question

Andreas, i try to have a normal conversation with you, but with this false acusations you put me on the battlefield.

Answer this simple questions :

1- Is the PDK-2.2 circuit,same as your circuit ?
i think no,but lets see your answer.

2- If my PDK-2.2 is your signature DESIGNE, where i get the schematic to copy your
design PCB ?

3-Do you put your above PCB available in internet for everybody to copy ?

4-Where do you think i get your PCB designe ???


regards

[Morgan]

Here the PCBs for compare


18436

18437

Your design,i dont think so,WHERE I GET YOUR PCB DESIGN ???,and the PDK-2.2 from Jimis was sold and the person who bought it try to copy the circuit,words from Jimis,want to see the emails???,well ,well...

No,you not behind the copy of the Jimis PDK-2.2, sorry to think about that.

your circuit above is noting similar with my PDK-2.2

you using much more material ICs,Transistors,etc, check that there is no similarities at all...

regards

[WM6]

Not very same design:

[Morgan]

Not very same design:

Thanks a lot, but lets see Adreas answer.

[Morgan]

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???
What do you say. I can do or not this is a question?
..this is the circuit of a PDK-2.2 ,is diferent : (post #13 photo)
My drawing and PCB two years ago.
All members can see the same philoshophy drawing PCB and my "signature" design.
My PCB as same "your" PCB or not?
Also this is a question

Here is other PDK-2.2, with diferent shape PCB boards.

Adreas,where is your DESIGN SIGNATURE in this one ? ;)

[Morgan]

Here is other PDK-2.2, with diferent shape PCB boards.

Adreas,where is your DESIGN SIGNATURE in this one ? ;)




I believe this one looks more beautyfull than that from Charris ,but more ugly they are better they work :D

[ANDREAS]

Here is other PDK-2.2, with diferent shape PCB boards.

Adreas,where is your DESIGN SIGNATURE in this one ? ;)



No comments, only a pic

[vali]

???

[nelson]

Yes, this was the schematics i talk earlier and i new it was posted and signed by Andreas.

Morgan you must admit that you got your pdk from this schematics, because when i asked about your pdk design and if i remember well i told you about this schematic that you build over a pice of wood. Well here it is, this is the one i was asking about.

Now, we all know you had made some mods to this circuit, but this is just some minor changes on sensitivity and frequency (LC tank)

In conclusion, i think that if we need a working pdk or lrl, is just a matter to have a good field test like Morgan does, and then start to play with the circuit to get the signal, increse sensitivity and get the best RX frequency.

Regards
Nelson


No comments, only a pic

[WM6]

OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:

[ANDREAS]

As I said, I do not intend to present inside more PDK. This is Morgan's and he wants to do is his own right. Just give me the right to be personally involved with a circuit that I had left too long without worrying if someone told me "this is a clone."
The circuit can have many improvements if calibrate, if actual work, etc. When I have free time i build it with more modifications, I just have way to do tests without any doubt from anyone.
I try only one interesting point for me. A method for simple calibration via user in practice with a real sample-target
But if continued or ironic and comments from "experts", i will stop dealing "personnaly use".
Only a point morgan is correct 100%. My country this time 1-2 men build and sell 600euro PDK clones with same plastic-box, same knobs and same design. without results. Scrap machines and i see one with my eyes. If i find a photo i can publish here.
Morgan, I hope you understand me. I don't have anything personal with you, also I don't interested for your projects. I am only interested you stop comments and ironic and your friends or partners. Sometimes silence is gold and i love silence for long time, before start again something
best regards

[Morgan]

No comments, only a pic

Hello

this project still Alonsos PASSIVE RECEIVER pheraps with the signature Adreas ( Christi ? ) a friend ofered me this project and i decide to try it,as everybody knows i put photo and a video of this project and SAID THAT IT WORKS AS LRL ,however it works only with my MODIFICATIONS after change many FERRITES, also COILS and of course doing mods in TRANSISTORS and the obvious TUNING capacitor near the RX COIL,this is what is called the PDK-2,where is nothing to hide,is modifications by GEO,Esteban,Andreas,and MORGAN put it to work as a LRL,but there is a base in Alonsos Passive Receiver.


regards

[WM6]

My country this time 1-2 men build and sell 600euro PDK clones with same plastic-box, same knobs and same design. without results. Scrap machines and i see one with my eyes.



How do you know that "without results"?

I am sure that re-builders can claim valuable finding examples at huge distance. As you and any other LRL manufacturer.

[aft_72005]

Hello

this project still Alonsos PASSIVE RECEIVER pheraps with the signature Adreas ( Christi ? ) a friend ofered me this project and i decide to try it,as everybody knows i put photo and a video of this project and SAID THAT IT WORKS AS LRL ,however it works only with my MODIFICATIONS after change many FERRITES, also COILS and of course doing mods in TRANSISTORS and the obvious TUNING capacitor near the RX COIL,this is what is called the PDK-2,where is nothing to hide,is modifications by GEO,Esteban,Andreas,and MORGAN put it to work as a LRL,but there is a base in Alonsos Passive Receiver.


regards



Hi all
I think must be say something here , I asked from Geo , Morgan , Andreas , detectoman , to build really work LRL many times ago . Geo didn’t nothing only some pictures . detectoman Under my promise give me some data ( I am thanking from him) .
My request from Andreas , he help me with more data, and more circuits . also I am so thanking from Andreas .
Morgan , I gave you the circuit picture with Andreas name at below.
It was project which Andreas helped to me . I gave you this circuit without Andreas permit . I remember well that modified circuit easily detected 1.5 volt short circuit from 1 meter . also I asked Morgan , said me About Alonso Pd and other data .
But only Andreas data was very valuable for me , i did incorrect work , my false work was Without permit by Andreas, I gave circuit to Morgan . Andreas, I am sorry for my
False:frown::frown: .

[nelson]

My friend

Just copy the know pdk schematics and also you can build my pcb that i posted earlier.
My pdk works, but it needs just some good adjustments for sensitivity and also to use the correct frequencies
I compared my pdk signals with another LRL that was factory build, and it detects almost the same with just diferent sensitivity
For me the clue is to do same has Morgan, to buried some gold or silver and then go for a field test. This is the only way to get a real signal from buried gold or silver.
Regards
Nelson



OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:

[nelson]

My friends stop comments in excess, just build pdk and go for some test on diferent frequencies that implies to retune frequency and sensitivity.
Also very important is to have a good field test (gold or silver buried for long time)

Regards

Nelson

Hello

however it works only with my MODIFICATIONS after change many FERRITES (FREQUENCY CHANGE), also COILS and of course doing mods in TRANSISTORS (TO GET MORE SENSITIVITY)and the obvious TUNING capacitor near the RX COIL (FREQUENCY RETUNE)


regards

[nelson]

I agree with you and just ask who help with TOTem schematics?

Regards

Nelson




Hi all
I think must be say something here , I asked from Geo , Morgan , Andreas , detectoman , to build really work LRL many times ago . Geo didn’t nothing only some pictures . detectoman Under my promise give me some data ( I am thanking from him) .
My request from Andreas , he help me with more data, and more circuits . also I am so thanking from Andreas .
Morgan , I gave you the circuit picture with Andreas name at below.
It was project which Andreas helped to me . I gave you this circuit without Andreas permit . I remember well that modified circuit easily detected 1.5 volt short circuit from 1 meter . also I asked Morgan , said me About Alonso Pd and other data .
But only Andreas data was very valuable for me , i did incorrect work , my false work was Without permit by Andreas, I gave circuit to Morgan . Andreas, I am sorry for my
False:frown::frown: .

[WM6]

For me the clue is to do same has Morgan, to buried some gold or silver and then go for a field test. This is the only way to get a real signal from buried gold or silver.



Nelson, if you build geomagnetism sensor (as we can see that some LRL manufacturer do), you can get real signal from those buried silver things with a lot of imagination only.

You only sense movement of your sensor in geomagnetic lines all other conclusions are self deception.

[aft_72005]

I agree with you and just ask who help with TOTem schematics?

Regards

Nelson


Qiaozhi is main designer and experimenter of totem PD . yes, totem designed step
By step by Qiaozhi

[Qiaozhi]

I agree with you and just ask who help with TOTem schematics?
What are you asking here? :???:

Qiaozhi is main designer and experimenter of totem PD . yes, totem designed step
By step by Qiaozhi
Aft is correct. TOTeM is my own design based on information freely available in the public domain. It is not a clone of anybody's work. There are even some new concepts in TOTeM that enable the coils to be balanced more easily.

[Morgan]

Hi all
I think must be say something here , I asked from Geo , Morgan , Andreas , detectoman , to build really work LRL many times ago . Geo didn’t nothing only some pictures . detectoman Under my promise give me some data ( I am thanking from him) .
My request from Andreas , he help me with more data, and more circuits . also I am so thanking from Andreas .
Morgan , I gave you the circuit picture with Andreas name at below.
It was project which Andreas helped to me . I gave you this circuit without Andreas permit . I remember well that modified circuit easily detected 1.5 volt short circuit from 1 meter . also I asked Morgan , said me About Alonso Pd and other data .
But only Andreas data was very valuable for me , i did incorrect work , my false work was Without permit by Andreas, I gave circuit to Morgan . Andreas, I am sorry for my
False:frown::frown: .

The schematic you gave me,i even not note that name Andreas ,otherwise i delete the name to protect you,i thought this was your project...
But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects, after many of MY MODIFICATIONS the circuit starts locating the objects.
What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?
I insist in this schematic becouse of the simplicity,and more easy to calibrate than the Alonsos PD


Regards

[aft_72005]

The schematic you gave me,i even not note that name Andreas ,otherwise i delete the name to protect you,i thought this was your project...
But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects, after many of MY MODIFICATIONS the circuit starts locating the objects.
What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?
I insist in this schematic becouse of the simplicity,and more easy to calibrate than the Alonsos PD


Regards




""i thought this was your project...""
No, it was common project with Andreas . But you are correct because you don’t know
This subject .
""But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects""
I believe Andreas is honest man , he did real test with real target the circuit which I gave you,. It could locate long buried metals .
""What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?""
Andreas help me Until I built modified LRL , my PD working well . also remember Andreas movie in YouTube ( Alonso clone PD) . in movie clearly show PD working .



Regards.

[aft_72005]

The schematic you gave me,i even not note that name Andreas ,otherwise i delete the name to protect you,i thought this was your project...
But tests in the field with the schematic NOT MODIFICATED shows not possible to locate burieds objects, after many of MY MODIFICATIONS the circuit starts locating the objects.
What Andreas give you was schematic that probaly he not get good results too,otherwise you think he offer you a good working LRL ?
I insist in this schematic becouse of the simplicity,and more easy to calibrate than the Alonsos PD


Regards

What are you asking here? :???:


Aft is correct. TOTeM is my own design based on information freely available in the public domain. It is not a clone of anybody's work. There are even some new concepts in TOTeM that enable the coils to be balanced more easily.

Yes, not any part of TOTeM PD similar to other PDs . it was design 100% from basic
Step by step , until complete ready to use PD .

[vali]

hello qiaozhi .It is the only publication to serve the community happy detector. :) What we :frown:

[Qiaozhi]

hello qiaozhi .It is the only publication to serve the community happy detector. :) What we :frown:
I don't understand what you're asking. :shrug:

[vali]

hi to all

[nelson]

Thankls for the advice, but i prefer to test this with real buried gold or silver.

Regards

Nelson



Nelson, if you build geomagnetism sensor (as we can see that some LRL manufacturer do), you can get real signal from those buried silver things with a lot of imagination only.

You only sense movement of your sensor in geomagnetic lines all other conclusions are self deception.

[nelson]

Hi Qiaozhi

I know is your own design, and i m not saying is a clone, you are correct

What are you asking here? :???:


Aft is correct. TOTeM is my own design based on information freely available in the public domain. It is not a clone of anybody's work. There are even some new concepts in TOTeM that enable the coils to be balanced more easily.

[folharin]

this is the image attached pdk 2.2 of morgan?

[vali]

Maybe ?

[iron1944]

Dear Nelson
I am an amateur elektronikçiyim. Longrangelocators form
You said you sent PDK circuit. Despite all my research I could not find such a circuit. Can you send the same circuit in the form of longrangelocators again? thanks

[ionios]

Hello to all,
I am from Greece and i have buy a pdk from morgan,
I like to say a big thank you to morgan,
First because he is honnest about the transactions,
Second because the pdk it really works as lrl,
And third for the really valuable price,
About the rest i dont have many thinks to say,
Only that if at the position of morgan was somebody else
for a working lrl, the price will had be at list 2000-3000 euros.
and i really dont care were he found the circuit,
because nearly all the lrl are copies from somethink similar.
thank you.
:):):):):):)

[Morgan]

Hello to all,
I am from Greece and i have buy a pdk from morgan,
I like to say a big thank you to morgan,
First because he is honnest about the transactions,
Second because the pdk it really works as lrl,
And third for the really valuable price,
About the rest i dont have many thinks to say,
Only that if at the position of morgan was somebody else
for a working lrl, the price will had be at list 2000-3000 euros.
and i really dont care were he found the circuit,
because nearly all the lrl are copies from somethink similar.
thank you.
:):):):):):)

hello


yes,i remember you,fortunatly your sucess with the PDK-2.1 means you understand how to calibrate this LRL
Hope you will find one big treasure :D

regards

[vali]

the big lie :angry: :nono:

[Morgan]

the big lie :angry: :nono:

what is the big lie?

[detectoman]

what is the big lie?

[nelson]

Hi my friend

Please go to this link

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15021&highlight=pdk&page=11

Then do a search between pages 4 and 9 of this forum

Regards

Nelson



Dear Nelson
I am an amateur elektronikçiyim. Longrangelocators form
You said you sent PDK circuit. Despite all my research I could not find such a circuit. Can you send the same circuit in the form of longrangelocators again? thanks

[Morgan]

what is the big lie?

some months ago Vali ask me to give him my complete schematic of a working LRL,my answer was NO

here is the consequences...

[Morgan]

what is the big lie?

some months ago Vali ask me to give him complete schematic of a working LRL,my answer was NO

here is the consequences...

[WM6]

Hi my friend

Please go to this link

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15021&highlight=pdk&page=11

Nelson

Hi Admin

what special rights do I need to access page given by nelson?

If I am trying to access given link I always got in return this:

[nelson]

Mmmm i forgot this is the private room, so i recomend you to contact Carl.

Regards

Nelson


Hi Admin

what special rights do I need to access page given by nelson?

If I am trying to access given link I always got in return this:

[WM6]

Mmmm i forgot this is the private room, so i recomend you to contact Carl.



Ok, thanks for explanation. I do not need, nor wish, to go on others private debate.

[humhum]

Hi WM6 , and I have also this problem with private room .
Why not have allow for enter to here ?? :angry:
This forum is for All member.

[Morgan]

As I said, I do not intend to present inside more PDK. This is Morgan's and he wants to do is his own right. Just give me the right to be personally involved with a circuit that I had left too long without worrying if someone told me "this is a clone."
The circuit can have many improvements if calibrate, if actual work, etc. When I have free time i build it with more modifications, I just have way to do tests without any doubt from anyone.
I try only one interesting point for me. A method for simple calibration via user in practice with a real sample-target
But if continued or ironic and comments from "experts", i will stop dealing "personnaly use".
Only a point morgan is correct 100%. My country this time 1-2 men build and sell 600euro PDK clones with same plastic-box, same knobs and same design. without results. Scrap machines and i see one with my eyes. If i find a photo i can publish here.
Morgan, I hope you understand me. I don't have anything personal with you, also I don't interested for your projects. I am only interested you stop comments and ironic and your friends or partners. Sometimes silence is gold and i love silence for long time, before start again something
best regards

here it is a greek copy of a PDK-2.2

i not believe they work the same as original


18461

[nelson]

Just request Carl you are interested to join the private room
Regards

Nelson



Hi WM6 , and I have also this problem with private room .
Why not have allow for enter to here ?? :angry:
This forum is for All member.

[folharin]

please post the schematic, or causes to this pdk folharin@hotmail.com ... best regards.

[vali]

HI MORGAN ?

I requested a pdk from you to buy it. Of course ,after we wanted so much . at the end you said us i
Also bought from another person even you said his name to me I email to him . but he didn't any
Answer to me so not put the blame on me and not disturb of me . because you said I don't produe pdk myself and I buy it from others so I don't believe that you are a producer at the end for what you say these so mach lying . regard

[Morgan]

HI MORGAN ?

I requested a pdk from you to buy it. Of course ,after we wanted so much . at the end you said us i
Also bought from another person even you said his name to me I email to him . but he didn't any
Answer to me so not put the blame on me and not disturb of me . because you said I don't produe pdk myself and I buy it from others so I don't believe that you are a producer at the end for what you say these so mach lying . regard

بله، من به یاد داشته باشید، شما در حال درست را نداشته باشند، کارخانه آشکارساز، و ارسال آشکارساز به کشور خود؛ زیرا تقریبا غیر ممکن است تشریفات است.

با توجه به


yes,thats correct,i dont have LRL factory,its hobby.
The other problem ,is not possible to send PDK to your country becouse of formalities.

regards

[Nicolas]

بله، من به یاد داشته باشید، شما در حال درست را نداشته باشند، کارخانه آشکارساز، و ارسال آشکارساز به کشور خود؛ زیرا تقریبا غیر ممکن است تشریفات است.

با توجه به


yes,thats correct,i dont have LRL factory,its hobby.
The other problem ,is not possible to send PDK to your country becouse of formalities.

regards


Hi dear Morgan
Saw this comment here and request schemas as well as from most problems with their territories.
and I saw that you do not pouver produce more than two or three devices in one month.
so you're a designer and you updated 3 or 4 types of PDK.
and you said that even copies of your PDK does not work well.
So I have a proposal for you and to help other people to do his PDK
to give them at least the first scheme first PDK 2.1
And that I do myself. in my LRL. I give the free version first. that can make the first version, can also last and update.

becaufe it there's a proverb "Thing does not have No Gives "

and thanks for all we are all researchers and also poor patients by Gold :razz:

[nelson]

This is not true
If you move cables from the coil, may be but the rest is not affected



the great problem on this PDK-2 or others 2.1 or 2.2 or even 3 , once opened and the wires moved from the original position,they cant work the same again...

Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???

[Nicolas]

OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:


Hi dear WM6

But I can copy that hehehehe look here

and andreas is right

And I have share it free for all

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18964

Yes Nelson you are right not problem if move the cable from coil for PDK !!!!!not tust not work if open the cover or move cables :nono:

and also for OMBD not need calibration is same the PDK Circuit not have special for me.. and Andreas said need 3 hours for calibration!!!!!

Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

[ANDREAS]

.........

Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

Hi Nicolas
I don't want to offend you
You know we'll all about microprocessor or proteus, but... about design a real electronic LRL , I think you know nothing.
The true is one. PDK need a calibration. For example your PCB design from PDK don't work in practice, but.... is not my right to publish here a PCB better for this project or publish more pics about place (inside PDK) distance between parts etc etc
tHe difference between a simple circuit - LRL are... difference design PCB, place wires and small critical extra tips.
Other example. CIrcuit DCH85. This circuit is correct, but ONE part has false value. Logical Alonso need a trimmer for this part, but if he put a trimmer is very easy build a clone and real work a commercial clones project . The better choice by Alonso is .. use a standard value from this part and maybe .. some units work other countries better or not
I think with this method, Alonso try protect unit.
In this case, i think is better for you my friend, you must work only with electronic rods, this "technology" you know well.
Now if you believe you can build a PDK, please try it. All people my country try- build a clone without results outside lab, maybe you are lucky man.
They are my opinions after 25 years learn LRL
best wishes

[Nicolas]

Hi Nicolas
I don't want to offend you

Now if you believe you can build a PDK, please try it. All people my country try- build a clone without results outside lab, maybe you are lucky man.
They are my opinions after 25 years learn LRL


First thank you to not offend me . I also would not do it ever. just some advice and opinions.

Is what I know is that PDK ? Morgan or yours ? ! each of you say what is his. reading this topic .

and after me is a part of receiving circuit of Alonso. proof is here draw by yourself .


http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=18922&stc=1&d=1395620682


http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=2276


http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=2277


Please do not try to say things that are incorrect:nono:. Here is the trust

But I encourage the diligent and works and looking develops and adds

As if you were talking about Morgan 's PDK , nothing special my friend and no clearance between the composents . and no calibration needed

So for your OMBD it is special in its circuit that is a mix between PD and PDK and mineoro

So what to talk you away party electronics . did not care for this type of PDK or Your OMBD . Unless the coils ( for I know that stuff. This is my domain and my specialty is in electrical engineering ) .

of how lucky you were talking about? I built a real LRL long range 1500m
and I built a functional PDK .

and I want to build a machine like yours OMBD = PDK along with a distance more than 1500m without coils. especially using a large IR range 1500m magnetic field detection . and need not etalonage in laboratories.

[nelson]

Hi Nicolas

Is that crypton circuit you posted?



Hi dear WM6

But I can copy that hehehehe look here

and andreas is right

And I have share it free for all

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18964

Yes Nelson you are right not problem if move the cable from coil for PDK !!!!!not tust not work if open the cover or move cables :nono:

and also for OMBD not need calibration is same the PDK Circuit not have special for me.. and Andreas said need 3 hours for calibration!!!!!

Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

[Nicolas]

Hi Nicolas

Is that crypton circuit you posted?


Hi nelson we are talking about PDK and OMBD make with part of circuit Alonso PD and Morgan and Andreas said need Calibration in laboratories.But for me I not saw any Calibration to need

Maybe in PD need Calibrate coils and ferrite to Zero point but in PDK and OMBD nothing come calibrate

[ANDREAS]

Hi nelson we are talking about PDK and OMBD make with part of circuit Alonso PD and Morgan and Andreas said need Calibration in laboratories.But for me I not saw any Calibration to need

Maybe in PD need Calibrate coils and ferrite to Zero point but in PDK and OMBD nothing come calibrate
Please trust me
I am sure 100% PDK need calibration or you can find best point with luck.
I see PCB-pic your post #81, this design PCB is better for PDK
Regarding OBMD only same circuit having with other lrl is the output stage 555 with Βuzzer and small modifications. This section for me is classic and very simple stability. Therefore we can have an opinion, but i assure you that it is wrong why you insult me, ​​when you put in the same category a OBMD as PDK
You know well, never i publish or write opinions about others commercial projects, if i have not my hands.
Especially if i don't know or I have not seen with my own eyes a circuit, i believe my opinions would be fantastic
Always I respect design units of the other because they have worked enough for .
In this case i returning again, PDK need calibration and this is not fantastic.
I have not more , for me this threard is closed
best regards

[Nicolas]

Please trust me
I am sure 100% PDK need calibration or you can find best point with luck.
I see PCB-pic your post #81, this design PCB is better for PDK
Regarding OBMD only same circuit having with other lrl is the output stage 555 with Βuzzer and small modifications. This section for me is classic and very simple stability. Therefore we can have an opinion, but i assure you that it is wrong why you insult me, ​​when you put in the same category a OBMD as PDK
You know well, never i publish or write opinions about others commercial projects, if i have not my hands.
Especially if i don't know or I have not seen with my own eyes a circuit, i believe my opinions would be fantastic
Always I respect design units of the other because they have worked enough for .
In this case i returning again, PDK need calibration and this is not fantastic.
I have not more , for me this threard is closed
best regards

but i assure you that it is wrong why you insult me, ​​when you put in the same category a OBMD as PDK

Do not start your brother Andreas nature and the best of the best handsets
Of course it pooped device, as well as industry and design values
Sorry my brother that I hurt you unintentionally
I told you earlier I no offended you ever. and why Isult you my dear?!!!!! you have missunderstanding me. please not said that.

Especially if i don't know or I have not seen with my own eyes a circuit, i believe my opinions would be fantastic

I also never not talking about something I did not see him and did not have it checked and did not see what's inside after opening

You can look here what I wrote about your OMBD

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=149069&postcount=426

But be confident that I will not Post that information private and out of respect for this course, our friends and trade also because I'm not stupid

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18587&page=7

[Sneshko]

Dear friends
I have PDK 2.1.
Calibration is necessary and required!
Regards!
Sneshko

[humhum]

Hi brother Nicolas , Andreas is right that need very critical adjust between ........ in PDK,
also so need critical adjust Alonso PD with Omega Coil, I build it before 3 years and was very difficult calibration.
But not have stability in Tx-Osc Frequency , have shift of frequency and need continious calibration with potans.

Regards.

[Morgan]

This is not true
If you move cables from the coil, may be but the rest is not affected

maybe you talking about the PDK-1, is less sensitive.

try to move something inside PDK-2 ,stay out of balance... I know why.

[Morgan]

Do not start your brother Andreas nature and the best of the best handsets
Of course it pooped device, as well as industry and design values
Sorry my brother that I hurt you unintentionally
I told you earlier I no offended you ever. and why Isult you my dear?!!!!! you have missunderstanding me. please not said that.



I also never not talking about something I did not see him and did not have it checked and did not see what's inside after opening

You can look here what I wrote about your OMBD

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=149069&postcount=426

But be confident that I will not Post that information private and out of respect for this course, our friends and trade also because I'm not stupid

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18587&page=7

There are PDKs using the voltage regulator,this model is calibrated when turned ON and stay very stable all the time,however this kind of unit need 3X9V ,it more heavy and more expensive construction.Results on field are very good.

The PDKs more simple,no need the V.regulator circuit,and use only 2X9V. Of course it needs calibration time to time after turn ON. Results in field are amazing if the operator is very experienced,testimonials of great treasures found around the World with PDK users are TRUE.

[Morgan]

There are PDKs using the voltage regulator,this model is calibrated when turned ON and stay very stable all the time,however this kind of unit need 3X9V ,it more heavy and more expensive construction.Results on field are very good.

The PDKs more simple,no need the V.regulator circuit,and use only 2X9V. Of course it needs calibration time to time after turn ON. Results in field are amazing if the operator is very experienced,testimonials of great treasures found around the World with PDK users are TRUE.



Its becouse of the many atempts to clone PDK-2.1 that i will never sell any PDK-3 .

With PDK-3 I can CHALLENGE all LRLs in the world ! I think ...

[Nicolas]

Hi brother Nicolas , Andreas is right that need very critical adjust between ........ in PDK,
also so need critical adjust Alonso PD with Omega Coil, I build it before 3 years and was very difficult calibration.
But not have stability in Tx-Osc Frequency , have shift of frequency and need continious calibration with potans.

Regards.

Hi brother Humhum. How are you so times not see you here

My brother I know what I said. For PDK and OMBD not need Calibration my brother

If You or other said that. Ok. can said me where need calibration???

Calibration to find place for Coil or for what ??? please be reasonable.

But in Pd yes need to know the point zero that is correct between Omega coil and Ferrite coils. this is trust

thank you for your comment

[Nicolas]

maybe you talking about the PDK-1, is less sensitive.

try to move something inside PDK-2 ,stay out of balance... I know why.


Hi morgan

You can said me one sample please for PDK 2. because I have that and need try if not working.

I love the work and also clearer and scientific

[Morgan]

Hi brother Humhum. How are you so times not see you here

My brother I know what I said. For PDK and OMBD not need Calibration my brother

If You or other said that. Ok. can said me where need calibration???

Calibration to find place for Coil or for what ??? please be reasonable.

But in Pd yes need to know the point zero that is correct between Omega coil and Ferrite coils. this is trust

thank you for your comment

The RX receiver coil in the PDKs need to be TUNED otherwise the PDK not work fine,we talking about tuning the LRL, the CALIBRATION is made by external potentiometers to adjust sensitivity to desired level.
Tuning the coil is dificult task, i believe Andreas need 3 hours to tune the crypton.
At begining of my PDK-2.1 first model i stay 2 h tuning the coil for the best position according high capacitance in the circuits,to pick the gold target at best distance possible. Today i can tune one PDK coil in just 10 minutes.

[Nicolas]

There are PDKs using the voltage regulator,this model is calibrated when turned ON and stay very stable all the time,however this kind of unit need 3X9V ,it more heavy and more expensive construction.Results on field are very good.

The PDKs more simple,no need the V.regulator circuit,and use only 2X9V. Of course it needs calibration time to time after turn ON. Results in field are amazing if the operator is very experienced,testimonials of great treasures found around the World with PDK users are TRUE.

Yes this is true Morgan

And can build with 9V only but need modif transistor and parts of resistors the imortant is the pot of Gain and the curent base of transistor before out signal. Also the capacitor parallel to the passive coil

The field calibration work is required for all devices built our kind

[Nicolas]

The RX receiver coil in the PDKs need to be TUNED otherwise the PDK not work fine,we talking about tuning the LRL, the CALIBRATION is made by external potentiometers to adjust sensitivity to desired level.
Tuning the coil is dificult task, i believe Andreas need 3 hours to tune the crypton.
At begining of my PDK-2.1 first model i stay 2 h tuning the coil for the best position according high capacitance in the circuits,to pick the gold target at best distance possible. Today i can tune one PDK coil in just 10 minutes.


Nice Morgan this is the trust response 10 mn yes. the position of coils and the Current for base to transistor before out signal, make be Pot (Gain) 20 k or other quite sour after the supply voltage of the circuit (3x9V) or (2x9V) or only (9V).

Thanks also for OMBD same calibration it have big coil center below the motherboard circuitry with two smal coil capacitif in parallel

and current absorpation IR controlled with OAP 741 and this not difficult to find the sensitive point.

Yes for first project need times you are the both or all need that me too in my LRL

Thanks to all, this is my critical opinion not need offended everyone.

The PDK's is good like work in some country but need progress to update that for all country. distance good but also with an other add to bandwith and amplitude...I think that

OMBD it's also good working all country this is his forte but not distance.

With my respect to everyone that seeks and developed and built a good job

[DrTech]

MY GRANDMOTHER SAYS NEED CALIBRATION TO DETECT BURIED METAL8)

[Nicolas]

MY GRANDMOTHER SAYS NEED CALIBRATION TO DETECT BURIED METAL8)

Nice thank you..please ask to Grandmother if we need calibration to detect fresh metal also???

You should be neutral and not aimed Comment miserable .... Leave yourself loved at All

[ouiarabe]

My grandfather said that the great mother of someone requires calibration: Lol:: Lol:

[DrTech]

My grandfather said that the great mother of someone requires calibration: Lol:: Lol:

PD NEED CALIBRATION ..

[Nicolas]

We are not stupid not offended people please
respect all member here in forum

We know you built that but not send messages provocative

MY GRANDMOTHER SAYS NEED CALIBRATION TO DETECT BURIED METAL8)

We are all hère looking for information. So then stop with your stupid message and let your family at house.

[iron1944]

Mr. Nicolas Grand Masters. Can you help me? ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you. You are a great man, Thank Teşeklk. (http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/Mr. Nicolas Grand Masters. Can you help me? ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you. You are a great man, Thank Teşeklk.)

[iron1944]

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/Mr. Nicolas Grand Masters. Can you help me? ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you. You are a great man, Thank TeÅŸeklk.





Mr. Nicolas
Grand Masters.
Can you help me?
ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you.
You are a great man,
Thank Teşeklk.

Mr. Nicolas Grand Masters. Can you help me? ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you. You are a great man, Thank Teşeklk. (http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/Mr. Nicolas Grand Masters. Can you help me? ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you. You are a great man, Thank Teşeklk.)

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Hi iron, i have the schematic, e-mail me. Errel74@yahoo.com

[iron1944]

Mr. Nicolas
Grand Masters.
Can you help me?
ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you.
You are a great man,
Thank Teşeklk.http://hizliresim.com/oQ97VQ

[iron1944]

Mr. Nicolas
Grand Masters.
Can you help me?
ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you.
You are a great man,
Thank Teşeklk.http://i.hizliresim.com/oQ97VQ.png

[iron1944]

Mr. Nicolas
GREAT MASTERS
INTERESTS FOR PDA and hope you will answer Alanson BEKLİYORUM.S get the big man GOD protect you from harm.
THANK YOU.

[iron1944]

İngilizce
Rusça





Metin veya web sayfası çevirin
SAYIN reza viralanso pd circuit ait eksik parçaları put hereTeeşekkür ederim.











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Bunu mu demek istediniz? SAYIN reza vir alonso pd circuit ait eksik parçaları put here Teeşekkür ederim. (javascript:void(0))



Mr Reza vir
Alanson circuit pd put the missing pieces belong here
Thank .

[iron1944]

BUY NİCOLAS
GREAT MASTERS
Your NEREDESS CENTER WOULD,
GOD bless YOU EVIL,

[iron1944]

DEAR WM6
THE MISSING PARTS LOCATION koyarmýsýn to Alanson PDA
THANK YOU

[iron1944]

http://i.hizlirehttp://i.hizliresimhttp://i.hizliresim.com/oQ97VQ.png.com/oQ97VQ.pngsim.com/oQ97VQ.png

[iron1944]

http://imgDEAR of QİOZH.
Can you put the PDA in Alanson MISSING PARTS LOCATION?
THANK YOU
545.imageshack.us/img545/8540/alonsoferiterxcircuit.png

[Nicolas]

Mr. Nicolas
Grand Masters.
Can you help me?
ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you.
You are a great man,
Thank Teşeklk.http://i.hizliresim.com/oQ97VQ.png

Oh dear sorry because I m not here for a few times and not see your request and I m busy little this days

ok you can find here what you asked to me. and you know my Email

Wait me I correct it for you

Good wish for you and other

[iron1944]

Mr. Nicolas

GREAT MASTERS
Thank you very much for your help
God bless

[iron1944]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSa2b1xdJgeaYbXn314UT0FiM-RpDYAzMk_k0iAsK6xVWMzMdZd8ArRQd8S (https://www.google.com.tr/url?q=http://www.kounooz.com/vb/showthread.php%3Fp%3D19329&sa=U&ei=6KdiU6iDKYnpygPu54HwAQ&ved=0CEwQ9QEwEDgU&sig2=ho2uYL3RsjuP_ABc__DXjw&usg=AFQjCNEwPbsQnDld2dXeLLWSHJpJz2nyeg)
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Yunanca







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SAYIN ANDREASBÜYÜK USTA BENDE KOUNOOZ COM ÜYESİYİM: FORUMDA ARAŞTIRMA YAPARKEN SİZİN GÖRDÜĞÜNÜZ DEVREYİ GÖRDÜM FAKAT AÇIK CİRCUİT VE SCHMATİCŞEMASINI BULAMADIM BU DEVRENİN AÇIK ŞEMASINI LONGRANGELOCATORS FORMUNA KOYABİLİRMİSİN?NİCOLAS SEN BÜYÜK ADAMSIN TANRI SENİ KÖTÜLÜKLERDEN KORUSUNTEŞEKKÜR EDERİM.











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Mr. Andreas
COM KOUNOOZ am a member of the USTA BIG BENDER: FORUM RESEARCH BUT WHEN I SAW YOU SEE ON CIRCUIT CIRCUIT AND SCHMATİCŞ AmAsInI LONGRANGELOCATORS CHART FORM ON THIS CIRCUIT BULAMADIM could you put on?
Your great man NİCOLAS you're GOD protect you from harm
THANK YOU.

[Nicolas]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSa2b1xdJgeaYbXn314UT0FiM-RpDYAzMk_k0iAsK6xVWMzMdZd8ArRQd8S (https://www.google.com.tr/url?q=http://www.kounooz.com/vb/showthread.php%3Fp%3D19329&sa=U&ei=6KdiU6iDKYnpygPu54HwAQ&ved=0CEwQ9QEwEDgU&sig2=ho2uYL3RsjuP_ABc__DXjw&usg=AFQjCNEwPbsQnDld2dXeLLWSHJpJz2nyeg)
İngilizce
Türkçe
Yunanca




Mr. Andreas
COM KOUNOOZ am a member of the USTA BIG BENDER: FORUM RESEARCH BUT WHEN I SAW YOU SEE ON CIRCUIT CIRCUIT AND SCHMATİCŞ AmAsInI LONGRANGELOCATORS CHART FORM ON THIS CIRCUIT BULAMADIM could you put on?
Your great man NİCOLAS you're GOD protect you from harm
THANK YOU.


thx you are Welcome here or in my site and all. If can help you or other not have problem for that

[Funfinder]

bla bla bla -
this whole thread is just to seduce innocent people to waste their money, time, work and other precious ressources.

Nicolas the big LRL saviour..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


@ iron1944
turkish:
Burada bu bok tavsiyesi ile bir çalışma dedektör alacak, bize inanıyorum!
Bu bok ile hayat ve sınırlı hazine avı zamanı israf etmeyin!
english:
You will get not a working detector with this crap advice here, believe us!
Don't waste your life and limited treasure-hunting time with this crap!


@ all LRL fanatics:
Show us our real good test results and prove them at some technical university. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Nicolas]

bla bla bla -
this whole thread is just to seduce innocent people to waste their money, time, work and other precious ressources.

Nicolas the big LRL saviour..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Shut up and watch your business. you do nothing with the LRL :nono:

:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtCgOeAmcpI&list=PL0FD717F9EE55A230

[nelson]

My Friend Nicolas

Don´t waste your precius time responding to stupid comments.

For me this guy doen´t exist anymore, so any comments he put here i just past and i don´t read it.

I prefer to write between people that are serius interested on investigation of LRL. Fundfinder has lost his mind writing and writing ofenses to people and never sees that if we like to experiement about something is our problem and not his problem. If he think LRL doesn´t work thats fine, we respect his opinions, but doing this all the time gets boring and no sense comments or may be he likes to fight and to be on the news has the man who wants to insult with no respect to others who like to experiment. Experimenting is the way to probe things and if we do not experiment will never know if we can discover something new. The gretest genius of history had to face this king of people, but thaks to they hard work they finally made the goals to show the world they were correct.
Regards
Nelson

Shut up and watch your business. you do nothing with the LRL :nono:

:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtCgOeAmcpI&list=PL0FD717F9EE55A230

[reza vir]

Hi ANDREAS and Nicolas
Please share a new list of components
Some parts not listed?

[Nicolas]

Hi ANDREAS and Nicolas
Please share a new list of components
Some parts not listed?

Look this is part from Alonso PD
Supply and receiver

[reza vir]

thanks nicolas
I mean this circuit
Do You and Morgan have copied the designs Andreas ????
There are many similarities


http://s5.picofile.com/file/8122189618/08160007.jpg

[Nicolas]

thanks nicolas
I mean this circuit
Do You and Morgan have copied the designs Andreas ????
There are many similarities


http://s5.picofile.com/file/8122189618/08160007.jpg


Yes but why not understand or what?? I have given you
and I have told you is the supply and receiver of alonso PD

mmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe dont have mind you hheheheheh :angry:

Ok I repeat here for you... me I work only for you and Okantex not have other :oh:

Friend need make your research you find here all. if you ask much not one give you nothing

[iron1944]

Mr. Nicolas
GREAT MASTERS Can you help me please?
Send me the FR iron1944. Rar. A passive circuit in the receiver part of Alanson
circuit components to be connected to each other?
- J2 where to connect?
- J6 where to connect?
- Reception where the pin will be connected?
- VB VB pin to be connected where?
- SUPLY where j3} VB-vdd to be connected?
Where J5-Audio pin to be connected?
Where J4 antenas to be connected?
PDK 2.1 Modif BY THIS tracks circling each other like nicolas EMS Bauch Training bind to you?
or LAB CENTER operation, such as Electronic Program Will you do the same?
I look forward to your reply.
GOD bless YOU ALL EVIL.
You're a great guy NİCOLAS
I'm sending you my love and respect

[Nicolas]

thanks nicolas
I mean this circuit
Do You and Morgan have copied the designs Andreas ????
There are many similarities


http://s5.picofile.com/file/8122189618/08160007.jpg


Look this scheme please ... here if make research yiu find all

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=2276

[iron1944]

Nicolas
GREAT MASTERS Can you help me please?
Send me iron1944 Fr. RR. Alanson and the receiver of a passive circuit
circuit elements connected to each other?
- Where J2 is connected?
- J6 is connected where?
- Pin Reception will be connected?
- VB VB pin to be connected where?
- SUPLY where j3} VB-vdd to be connected?
Where J5-Audio pin to be connected?
Where to connect J4 antenas?
THIS BY PDK 2.1 Modif NicOlas you were watching each other like EMS monitors Bauchi Education in trouble?
LAB CENTER operations or Electronic Programme, you will do the same?
I look forward to answering.
BAD God bless you all.
You're a great guy Nicolas
I'm sending you love and respect.
NOTE - I will draw Alanson passive circuit will be omitted in the PIC16F877A (will DI






Katkıda Bulun
Kapat

[mustefa ubram]

hi to all
what This circuit is shown in Figure????

[Nicolas]

hi to all
what This circuit is shown in Figure????

The circuit is same Alonso passive receiver my dear a bit modified by Morgan

[reza vir]

Mr. Nicolas
Grand Masters.
Can you help me?
ALONSO schmatik MV below a few parts missing those pieces put into place value Thank GOD bless you.
You are a great man,
Thank Teşeklk.http://i.hizliresim.com/oQ97VQ.png




Very hard to balance my friend. :nerd:

[detectoman]

brother reza vir, may be, you should put good balance, 1; whit very exakly voltage position at 317 regulator, others cause of imbalance 2 are transistors whit no right gain, or 3 any resistences very out of range, 4 very important; bad design of pcb, ( transistors very near one of other of irregular sites ) apologies for my bad english

[Nicolas]

Very hard to balance my friend. :nerd:

Hi dear Mustefa it's this part of Alonso modified but one PCB
hi to all
what This circuit is shown in Figure????


the same answer to my friend Detectoman
and also check two schemes

in the Ultimate picture or scheme you need add two capacitors one value 470 picoFarad parallel to R7 1 M
the second 4n7 or 6n8 or other in parallel to you Coil L8 for having Frequency between 60 and 100 kHz

[reza vir]

hi iron
This is my test

http://s5.picofile.com/file/8129587368/MOV03476.mp4.html

Please test your device and let

Thanks and regards

[mustefa ubram]

hi iron
This is my test

http://s5.picofile.com/file/8129587368/MOV03476.mp4.html

Please test your device and let

Thanks and regards
hi reza very good
What is this circuit?
this is morgan circuit with ferrit?
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19056&stc=1&d=1402362579

[reza vir]

no my dear
this is andreas secret project PDK :rolleyes:
And some of the projects alonso PD :nerd:

[AurumKid]

Any update from this thread? Does anyone here have a good result using this PDK?

[folharin]

no my dear
this is andreas secret project PDK :rolleyes:
And some of the projects alonso PD :nerd:

someone could read how many turns of wire is this drawing?

[folharin]

someone could read how many turns of wire is this drawing?

back to say that this capacitor c6 wrong, look the photos posted as morgan made ​​pistol and reverse engineering this summer that the correct value is 220 nf

[Saiman]

please post the schematic, or causes to this pdk folharin@hotmail.com ... best regards.


this is my e-mail : saiman20001@yahoo.com

[Savio]

Olá Morgan, tenho interesse em adquirir o aparelho que você aperfeiçoou e está comercializando, o último modelo desenvolvido por você, que acredito ser o PDK2.3. Meu e-mail: ssaviio@yahoo.com.br

Dear Morgan, please i need your e-mail. Thanks!

[Savio]

بله، من به یاد داشته باشید، شما در حال درست را نداشته باشند، کارخانه آشکارساز، و ارسال آشکارساز به کشور خود؛ زیرا تقریبا غیر ممکن است تشریفات است.

با توجه به


yes,thats correct,i dont have LRL factory,its hobby.
The other problem ,is not possible to send PDK to your country becouse of formalities.

regards


Olá Morgan, tenho interesse em adquirir o aparelho que você aperfeiçoou e está comercializando, o último modelo desenvolvido por você, que acredito ser o PDK2.3. Meu e-mail: ssaviio@yahoo.com.br

Dear Morgan, please i need your e-mail. Thanks!

[Qiaozhi]

Olá Morgan, tenho interesse em adquirir o aparelho que você aperfeiçoou e está comercializando, o último modelo desenvolvido por você, que acredito ser o PDK2.3. Meu e-mail: ssaviio@yahoo.com.br

Dear Morgan, please i need your e-mail. Thanks!

Olá Morgan, tenho interesse em adquirir o aparelho que você aperfeiçoou e está comercializando, o último modelo desenvolvido por você, que acredito ser o PDK2.3. Meu e-mail: ssaviio@yahoo.com.br

Dear Morgan, please i need your e-mail. Thanks!

Please read the forum rules -> http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10526
and make your posts in English.

[pigeon]

Please read the forum rules -> http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10526
and make your posts in English.

hi all

where'is the complet projet...shematic pcb......

thank you

[enjoykin4]

Signore ANDREAS ,

feel free and comfortable to contact me - here on this forum or via email.

I think we together can design real working extra long range locator ..... and maybe some of Free Energy Devices using some principles of working LRL.

Why so little people can make and tune such device. Because is is a Metaphysic device - need new understanding of nature new priciples and new schematic ideas which have very little with conventional "official permited" electronics.


For the begining - the nature of "Gold signals" IS NOT ELECTROMAGNETIC but have very large influence on classicl electromagnetics. It is a new source - one of ELEMENTAL FORCES (from 7 in our universe).

Tesla had woked on it - made greta results and have been "terminated" by ************* - Morgan J.P and CO... in 1943.

Today we don't have FREE ENERGY, better life and many many more - because ******************************.

So i think it is time to chage all ************************************************


My email is
enjokin4@andex.ru
Russia


I wish ou luck and success :)
Best regards Enjoykin4

[Qiaozhi]

I have just had a complaint from another forum member.

Enjoykin4 - This is now the 3rd time I've had to warn you about posting insults. Please read the forum rules.
Any more posts like this and you'll find yourself taking a sabbatical from the forum.

[pigeon]

Very hard to balance my friend. :nerd:

hi


someone have a pcb

best time

[vlf]

I am a radio amateur and my other hobby is the metal detecting.
I built this modificated PDK 2.1 (circuit and picture in appendix). My PCB is 70*30mm without LM371 circuit instead I use a separate step down pcb (18V input and adjust 9.0V out regulated). The inductance of the coil is 286 mikrohenry d70mm with 50 turns. I can switch several capacitors paralel to the coil for extr tuning. The PDK is ready it works for the first test outdoor. (but not with buried metal)
Test result: The sensitivity is very poor. After tuning the led shines if I touch the poti with the hand but when I turn the coil near metal no signal appears. I transmitt a VLF signal sinus wave into a short wire antenna in the range of 70-120khz no reaction farther than 15cm from the coil.
Anybody help?


Thanks in advance


VLF

[vlf]

Sorry I forgot the pictures.

VLF

[perzo]

HI ALL:Ithink If the coil is made with ferrite, the sensitivity for metal is better Further.
Sorry for bad my english.
Regards
perzo
http://s8.picofile.com/file/8323273900/DSC09733.JPG

[Nicolas]

I am a radio amateur and my other hobby is the metal detecting.
I built this modificated PDK 2.1 (circuit and picture in appendix). My PCB is 70*30mm without LM371 circuit instead I use a separate step down pcb (18V input and adjust 9.0V out regulated). The inductance of the coil is 286 mikrohenry d70mm with 50 turns. I can switch several capacitors paralel to the coil for extr tuning. The PDK is ready it works for the first test outdoor. (but not with buried metal)
Test result: The sensitivity is very poor. After tuning the led shines if I touch the poti with the hand but when I turn the coil near metal no signal appears. I transmitt a VLF signal sinus wave into a short wire antenna in the range of 70-120khz no reaction farther than 15cm from the coil.
Anybody help?


Thanks in advance


VLF

Bad coil read good my topic.

[putrechigi]

Hello everyone, I'm not here to criticize anyone but only to bring to light my results of 4 years of research with the morgan PD, after 4 years of tests in Italy in almost all environmental and soil conditions I can say that the my pdk version 2.1 if I'm not mistaken DOES NOT WORK !!!!! I'm not here to declare that the PDK is a rip-off but my data are todayadays and god knows only how much I wanted to find something with it, following the changes written by him on the condenser I opened the PD but it is practically covered by foam polyurethane and you run the risk of breaking the circuit in the cleaning. I'm here to write because 'I asked the problem to Morgan for more' unanswered days, I asked if I could send the pd paying for him to do the change but without an answer , I invited him to Italy paying all expenses for any test of my land without ever having an answer, I would like to know if someone is able to help me in cleaning and replacing the condenser thanks.
my invitation is always valid as the possibility to buy the pdk3
best regards to the whole forum

[putrechigi]

photo of my PDK

[WM6]

my pdk version 2.1 if I'm not mistaken DOES NOT WORK !!!!!



You are not mistaken.
Such design is able to work as very poor metal detector from vicinity only.

[abdou2014]

Mr WM6 , do you have a fonctionel LRL ???

[Morgan]

Hi

all your emails I answer in geotech forum, its very strange that you didnt get them,however next time send mesage direct to my email


you need to change the original capacitor for a 4N7 capacitorthat is not covered by epoxy foam, is visible in your photo.

[Morgan]

to change the capacitor remove the original that you can see in yout photo on the right,is the light brown ceramic capacitor near the blue cables that goes to the receptor coil

change this one for other of 4N7 value and check for results in the field.


DID YOU ALREADY MADE A FIELD TEST FOR LRLs ?

a field test is very easy to build, just use the silver LOOP acording my instructions in previous threads, after one year underground the silver in field test is ready to use as energy field to test all kind of LRLs

[Morgan]

buried this silver wire at 40 cm with some salt, this is the fast ENERGY FIELD , the loop shape


20243

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Hi morgan, i made several pdk's in the past but i cannot get the correct tune up of the coil and the tuning capacitor. My question for you is what is the correct coil for the pdk? I mean the correct coil specification like wire size, number of turns, coil diameter and if possible coil resistance. I think this information is very important for the proper functioning of the pdk. You are the only person in this forum who perfected the pdk the very reason i ask you this.
I have observed that higher inductance make the pdk sensitive to electrical interference including long distance lightnings but cannot catch the phenomenon.
The information that i ask you would be helpful to all pdk builders in this forum. Thank you...

[Morgan]

I tell several times in this forum that is very important to create a field test for LRLs

of course GOLD is expensive so need to make this silver LOOP according my instructions and the TEST FOR LRLs will be ready in one year

it doesnt matter the number of PDKs you have built,you need a FIELD TEST to tune the PDK using diferent cap. values in paralel with the COIL,

COIL consist of 40 turns 0,30mm wire in 6 cm diameter

CAPACITORS for tuning

6N8 is fine for mediterranean areas

4N7 is fine for eastern countries and north of europe

you can try capacitors start from 2N2 to 12N and try to get the best results

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Thank you for your good advice regarding the coil Franco, it is highly appreciated...

[putrechigi]

hello morgan I received your email this night, I thank you for the answer here on the forum, in addition to your ring I buried 3 silver coins, a pot in silver diameter 15cm 40 -30-50 cm deep I covered with earth and watered abundantly with water very salty. we update to 1 year while you renew also here (when you are free) the invitation to come to Italy all expense to do tests on Italian soil with your PDK3
best regards

hi
all your emails I answer in geotech forum, its very strange that you didnt get them,however next time send mesage direct to my email


you need to change the original capacitor for a 4N7 capacitorthat is not covered by epoxy foam, is visible in your photo.[/QUOTE]

[Morgan]

this information is for the Morgan PDKs

the Franco Italy LRL is diferent and I never build this project

[Morgan]

in answer to your email :

your is PDK-2.1


you can solder cables to the old capacitor pins, and take the cables outside the plastic box ,best place is on the top near the place of the original capacitor, if you put in diferent distances the capacitance may afect the detection if interfere to other components.


IMPORTANT

use only cap. values start from 2N2 and not more than 12 N

[Morgan]

Hello everyone, I'm not here to criticize anyone but only to bring to light my results of 4 years of research with the morgan PD, after 4 years of tests in Italy in almost all environmental and soil conditions I can say that the my pdk version 2.1 if I'm not mistaken DOES NOT WORK !!!!! I'm not here to declare that the PDK is a rip-off but my data are todayadays and god knows only how much I wanted to find something with it, following the changes written by him on the condenser I opened the PD but it is practically covered by foam polyurethane and you run the risk of breaking the circuit in the cleaning. I'm here to write because 'I asked the problem to Morgan for more' unanswered days, I asked if I could send the pd paying for him to do the change but without an answer , I invited him to Italy paying all expenses for any test of my land without ever having an answer, I would like to know if someone is able to help me in cleaning and replacing the condenser thanks.
my invitation is always valid as the possibility to buy the pdk3
best regards to the whole forum

yes,there are some reports that PDKs not work well, I add you to the list ,so we need to solve the problem WHY PDKs not work as LRL in some countries? According my experiments its becouse they are tuned in my country and there are variations in other countries,that can be adjusted with the right capacitor value.

I can tell you that some clients report to have found treasure with PDKs models 2.1, 2.3 and 3 ,most important treasures was found in Greece ,Turkey, also in my country I found recently two large treasures with PDK-3

I RECOMEND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PDK TO START THE FIELD TEST WITH THE SILVER LOOP,THAT IS GUARANTEE THAT WILL CATCH PHENOMENON AFTER ONE YEAR BURIED. OTHER OBJECTS LIKE SILVER COINS OR SILVER RING ALSO GREAT BUT NEED MANY YEARS UNTIL YOU HAVE THE ENERGY FIELD READY FOR TEST AND FOR TUNING WITH DIFERENT CAPACITORS IN THE PDK.

[WM6]

BUT NEED MANY YEARS UNTIL YOU HAVE THE ENERGY FIELD READY FOR TEST

.

Post mortem , for sure.

[Morgan]

hello morgan I received your email this night, I thank you for the answer here on the forum, in addition to your ring I buried 3 silver coins, a pot in silver diameter 15cm 40 -30-50 cm deep I covered with earth and watered abundantly with water very salty. we update to 1 year while you renew also here (when you are free) the invitation to come to Italy all expense to do tests on Italian soil with your PDK3
best regards

hi
all your emails I answer in geotech forum, its very strange that you didnt get them,however next time send mesage direct to my email


you need to change the original capacitor for a 4N7 capacitorthat is not covered by epoxy foam, is visible in your photo.[/QUOTE]

I have here my field test,and all of you who want to try LRLs can use


GOLD MEDAL

SILVER LOOP

17 silver coins

and more objects...

last year in the summer was here to test LRL the forum member Silvino from Brasil, he saw how to tune a PDK-3 in front of the buried object, after many tests he decide to buy a PDK,later he report that have made a SILVER LOOP test in Brasil to try there his PDK, anyway those who not believe in the Phenomenon can ask him what he saw and learn here.

[Dubulumach]

Hello Morgan

why dont you disclose secret about stimulator coil in your pdk.

its not only the frequency problem in all working lrls, but also stimulator coil need to be tunned to correct frequency.

passive receiver with tda7000 like in dch85 work, but have many interferences and hard to be tuned.

also francoitaly both versions work, but catch noble and ferrous metals as i said francoitaly.

alonso pd heatkit gd348 plus passive alonso receiver work but is very unstable and very hard to be tuned, because many variables take part in detection.

my oppinion is the best lrl is alonso new one with big square aluminium loop, and toroidal transformer for impendance matching.

i know how to classify gold and silver or other metal targets but every one need own setup and own nulling. this is due to every metal has different frequency and passive reciver need nulling at that particular frequency.

i think to make multiplex passive recivers for detecting interesting for me metals. platinum and rare elements are at my price list at first position, and they are much valuable than gold or silver.

if you have any frequency information about rare elements, contact me. we could cooperate well, each in own country. :)


ps. i dont sell any lrl i've made like you. they are just for my and my friend. :)

regards
dragan

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Hello morgan, just to ask you few questions on the pdk i built following you coil information, that is 40 turns, .30mm wire and 6 cm diameter. I tried 2.2n to 12n capacitors but it is less sensitive. I am referring to my crt tv as initial test since my buried target is still one month old.
I experimented several capacitors and found out that lower capacitor value just like 500 picofarad or lower, the pdk create a strong capacitance that touching the potentiometers, that is, the gain and sensitivity it will beep. The same is true also when my hand is near to the coil, it will beep. Also, a quarts watch at 5cm can also be detected. Those findings did not happen to the capacitors 2.2 to 12n. I also found out that placing the sensitivity knob to its proper place is very important.
According the instruction on your pdk, the point of sensitivity is reached when a beep is heard by touching the knob and turning the sensitivity to its triangle mark. So i think that capacitance plays a role of the phenomenon detection. Please comment...

[Morgan]

yes, the PDK is hard to dominate becouse of the high level of capacitance, however once you find the right place for the coil you get it mastered.

Since some people decide to expose the circuit of the PDK-2.1 model, the unique secret that remains is HOW TO TUNE THE COIL, for this process you need to build the PDK exactly like the model I build,becouse this is the best arangement for mastering the electronic components that irradiate capacitance, I have tried diferent shapes that was impossible to control.

Once you get this correct shape , need to have a buried test to try the PDK, the tuning of the coil start with a 6N8 cap and you need to move slightly the coil up or down until you can pick the signal of the buried object, if there is no results you need to try other cap value until the receptor coil can catch the PHENOMENON, as you can see its hard to do...and unforyunatly you balance and tune the PDK for your area, if you go to search to other country with the PDK maybe not work, its like IMAGINE YOU GO WITH A METAL DETECTOR USING A FIXED GROUND BALANCE to a remote area where the ground conditions are completly diferent, the results are poor,YOU NEED TO TUNE AGAIN THE PDK.


As to the most asker question,WHAT IS THE STIMULATOR IN THE PDK-2.1, the right answer is the arangement of the electronic elements at the correct disposition that play as stimulator,and by ajusting the RX coil more far or more near the circuit this act as a stimulator for the coil,or FERRIT also can be used.

[Morgan]

I see you know a lot about LRL

I invite you to try your locators here in my field test

at your disposition I have all the LRL models you talk about and many others

however the best treasures I have found was using my PDKs

all mineoro DCH85 ,etc etc as very poor response or no response in my field test,other thaqt works is the old PD Alonso but as critical adjustment and drift a lot.

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Thanks for the prompt reply. I will follow your instructions carefully.
One last question, is the placement of the battery plays important role of the PDK?

[Dubulumach]

Hello morgan, just to ask you few questions on the pdk i built following you coil information, that is 40 turns, .30mm wire and 6 cm diameter. I tried 2.2n to 12n capacitors but it is less sensitive. I am referring to my crt tv as initial test since my buried target is still one month old.
I experimented several capacitors and found out that lower capacitor value just like 500 picofarad or lower, the pdk create a strong capacitance that touching the potentiometers, that is, the gain and sensitivity it will beep. The same is true also when my hand is near to the coil, it will beep. Also, a quarts watch at 5cm can also be detected. Those findings did not happen to the capacitors 2.2 to 12n. I also found out that placing the sensitivity knob to its proper place is very important.
According the instruction on your pdk, the point of sensitivity is reached when a beep is heard by touching the knob and turning the sensitivity to its triangle mark. So i think that capacitance plays a role of the phenomenon detection. Please comment...

Hello GOLDEN LILLY

Would you like to tell me the inductance of your coil, i want to calculate frequency range for Morgan pdk.

your crt tv is irrelevant for testing any lrl. Also battery spark is irrelevant, mobile phone also, any kind of remote transmitters also.

make silver loop target, with 1-2kg salt, and wait a month, if a weather is hot, you will have where to test your pdk.

Esteban cabrera grinok advice is to use big copper plate /as bigger/ you could find, expose it to hot sunlight several hours, and make short therm test but not from long distance. Maybe help....

For temperature stability use only silver-mica high quality capacitors, especially those playing role as resonant capacitors, also use them as decoupling capacitors. instead electrolytic capacitors use tantalum with very small leakage curents, and working voltage 4x bigger than working pdk voltgage. best stability you will get if you connect transistors thermally with each other.

Best regards :)
dragan

[Dubulumach]

yes, the PDK is hard to dominate becouse of the high level of capacitance, however once you find the right place for the coil you get it mastered.

Since some people decide to expose the circuit of the PDK-2.1 model, the unique secret that remains is HOW TO TUNE THE COIL, for this process you need to build the PDK exactly like the model I build,becouse this is the best arangement for mastering the electronic components that irradiate capacitance, I have tried diferent shapes that was impossible to control.

Once you get this correct shape , need to have a buried test to try the PDK, the tuning of the coil start with a 6N8 cap and you need to move slightly the coil up or down until you can pick the signal of the buried object, if there is no results you need to try other cap value until the receptor coil can catch the PHENOMENON, as you can see its hard to do...and unforyunatly you balance and tune the PDK for your area, if you go to search to other country with the PDK maybe not work, its like IMAGINE YOU GO WITH A METAL DETECTOR USING A FIXED GROUND BALANCE to a remote area where the ground conditions are completly diferent, the results are poor,YOU NEED TO TUNE AGAIN THE PDK.


As to the most asker question,WHAT IS THE STIMULATOR IN THE PDK-2.1, the right answer is the arangement of the electronic elements at the correct disposition that play as stimulator,and by ajusting the RX coil more far or more near the circuit this act as a stimulator for the coil,or FERRIT also can be used.


Hello Morgan

From analysis of you words, if they are truth /i think you are talking a truth but not the whole truth/ i can do undestand that your pdk is capacitive long range locator. :) . About ''mastering the electronic components that irradiate capacitance,... '' and ''diferent shapes impossibile to control /capacitance/'' it is perfecly clear that you dont speak about active componets, like transistors or diodes or buzzer. it further mean that you dont speak about capacitors because you have made it and tried different shaps /you cant change the shape of factory capacitors/. only one stuff remain playing your game. inductance or inductor. but it is not ordinary inductor because that strange inductive componet irradiate capacitance. and that capacitance is not at all small value /part of pico farad/. so what is it...... :)
from my electronic skills i know you are talking about coil-capacitor/s. it is only one componet which have twins attributes.

question is only one for me. how did you have coupled that strange coil-capacitor with main parallel LC tank coil. inductive or capacitive coupling or both in some proportions to maintain small oscillation due to target gold signal trigger.

if all i said is correct than your pdk live /work/ on the eadge of super sensitive magnetic receiver and super small output capacitive oscillator. jumping over the eadge and go back when he jumped.

maybe if you are good will, you would give some priceless valuable informations.

ps. i have a strong intuition that pdk operator is a part of passive receiver circuit. /:lol: :lol: :lol:/ point of sensitivity is reached when a beep /oscillations/ is heard by touching the knob /capacitive coupling via operator finger/ and turning the sensitivity to its triangle mark /triangle mode LRLR /*INDUCTOR-CAPACITOR-OPERATOR**including self capacitance of pdk operator/. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Best regards
Dragan
The Highlander /i live in mountain/
South Serbia
East Balkan /not west like eu politician lain.
Inner planet Gea /:lol: :lol: :lol:/

ps. Morgan tell us about real test distance you have pass through a golden sieve of your pdk and how big were treasures /gold coins overjump for public release /:lol: :lol: :lol:/.

[Dubulumach]

Morgan , does it possible that your pdk work as a real long range locator , at kilometer or several km distances.

i think it is very possible. probability 0.98. :)

but you should understand what the ''hallo effect'' is? in very begining.

remember Esteban words, about real lrl hunters in brasil, how they did a job /found a gold/ from a half of mile, and maybe much bigger than half of mile. /:lol: :lol: :lol:/

I know Esteban Cabrera Grinok, had told a TRUTH.
Coul you help him ?

Regards

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Hi Dubulumach, my coil inductance is 170 microhenry. This is from 40 turns, .30mm and 6 cm diameter.

[abdou2014]

170uH ( 2.2nf - 12nf ) = ( 260 khz - 111 khz ) . did you try to fall on the second or third harmony of 77.5 khz ( 155 khz - 232.5 khz ), or on a LW radio station ???

[Dubulumach]

Hi Morgan

have you tested this newest alonso pd with square aluminium loop.
tell me about real test results. do you have schematic and coil data for it.

regards
dragan

''Encontrado Corrente de ouro com Detector de Metais - Protótipo 26/08/2010''
https://youtu.be/uda9gjUEGgg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uda9gjUEGgg/hqdefault.jpg

[GOLDEN LILLY]

This is said to be a static detector. Morgan knows it.

[Dubulumach]

Hi Dubulumach, my coil inductance is 170 microhenry. This is from 40 turns, .30mm and 6 cm diameter.

Thank you GOLDEN LILLY, :)

Do you have original Morgan PDK or self-made.

REGARDS
Dragan

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Self made...and I am still experimenting its behaviour with different coils and tuning capacitors.

[Dubulumach]

Hello Morgan

I am very interesting in this new LRL by Alonso. Have you some technical details about coils and electronics.
Did he used his original passive reciver design or maybe new one with toroidal-wrapped coil. Currently i analyse Mineoro DCH210 which my friend Geo posted long time ago on this forum, and also Esteban Cabrera Grinok modification of DC2008, with new passive receiver, rf sniffer, big printed square loop copper coil and small ellipse loop balance coil. I am extremely interesting in those two designs because i think they are best lrls in the world.

https://s31.postimg.cc/cf5fpeoaz/New_Alonso_Pistoldetektor.jpg
http://dodaj.rs/images/BIP9R.jpg
https://s31.postimg.cc/m8mn1tsvv/P7070093_RESIZED_WITH_TEXT.jpg

ps. Morgan if you wish contact me at my private email. I think i found some very interesting behaviour of passive receiver ferrite core, which can drastic boost detection distance in your PDK-s. Also you should catch tiny mV signals with new active amplitude detector. I already drawn new passive receiver schematic but not made it and not tested on real field with gold and silver targets.

Best wishes
Dragan the Highlander
South Serbia
East Balkan

[Dubulumach]

Morgan analyse this. It is the most informative schematic diagram i've found at this forum.
http://dodaj.rs/images/BORSP.md.jpg

If you like to talk with me write at private email.

note: Estban's pasive receiver work with phase opposite signal at 180 el.degrees. To achieve no-signal mode, ferrite input LC tank circuit must be tuned to sense opposite phase of stimulus signal, so the net phase is zero or in other words ferrite output is hold balanse, was nulled. Halo effect from gold target or silver one, disturb mutual net phase, either from stimulus or ferrite LC tank or both. This avalanche disbalance act up amplitude rise at 2nd dc amplifier stage (rise voltage after diode rectification) and trigger audio beeper generator. Target detected.


Regards
Dubulumach

[Dubulumach]

Server time out problem

repost.....

NOTE:

Estban's pasive receiver (mag.preamplifier) work with phase opposite signal at 180 el.degrees. To achieve no-signal mode, ferrite input LC tank circuit must be tuned to sense opposite phase of stimulus signal (ferrite osc.), so the net phase is zero or in other words ferrite mag.preamplifier output is hold balanse, real null. 1st step is nulling stimulus signal, multiturn sens potentiometer at maximum, very bright stimulus led and retune in opposite side untill the stimulus led is off.

This one is a point of maximum sensitivity but not useful because disbalance mag.preamplifier and led is bright. After finding correct position for magnetic preamplifier pcb and 1 turn coupler coil, passive receiver enter near zero net phase. Critic null point is achieved retining again sens potentiometer untill both leds off. This is a magic null point where lrl is extremely sensitive, To be known catch hold exact null is extremally difficult step, because we need electrical and geometrical balance in only one point at micron precision.

Halo effect from gold target or silver one, disturb mutual net phase eiher from stimulus (ferrite osc.) or ferrite LC tank or both. This avalanche disbalance act up amplitude rise at 2nd dc amplifier stage (rise voltage after diode rectification) and trigger audio beeper generator. Target detected.

Stimulus freq. 80KHz is probably (.99) correct for Esteban background, but sure not good for us at East Balkan.

Nulling could be at any frequency but not all frequencies carry on Halo effect signal. LRL detection belong to class of solving NP-hard problems. So only the real LRL masters like Alonso, Esteban, Geo, Morgan,... could bite up the real null.

"A Solid Roman gold coin signal is gone again! " :lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol:
http://www.metaldetectingworld.com/halo_effect/coin_signal_disappearance.jpg

Best Regards
Dragan the Highlander
South Serbia
East Balkan

[Dubulumach]

Hi Morgan

Any news from you ? :)

Come to south Serbia in my place at the mountain.
There are many old Roman settlements with lot of gold treasures untouched. :lol:
There is a lot of job for you and me.:lol:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzMxWDc1MA==/z/yxsAAOSwYHxWIyhh/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F

Best wishes
Dubulumach

[QH2520QH2]

Hello, master.
I made a PDK according to your circuit.
When it is ready, it will not work.
Does PDK still need to transmit the circuit?
How much is the diameter of your coil, how many circles are you using?
How did you debug it, please?
What is the data of your coil?
Please send a detailed picture of the machine you made.
And detailed data.
Can you give me detailed data for PDK?
Thank you

[lupen]

Do you have a complete DIY PDK tutorial to build it.... many shematics many parts.... the conclusions are many too...

If someone had test somethink please inform - help me!!!

Thank you

*** I found too AlonsoPD Clode schematics here in thsi forum from Andreas.... worth to build it or not???

[brs]

Not worthy of building

[lupen]

Not worthy of building

Why>?

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan

have you tested this newest alonso pd with square aluminium loop.
tell me about real test results. do you have schematic and coil data for it.

regards
dragan

''Encontrado Corrente de ouro com Detector de Metais - Protótipo 26/08/2010''
https://youtu.be/uda9gjUEGgg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uda9gjUEGgg/hqdefault.jpg

field test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVT0OWkwABc

[humhum]

Very Good , congratulation .

[Morgan]

Why>?

is right

if you build it and dont have field test with PHENOMENON to try it, and the tuning of the passive receiver coil is made in front of the PHENOMENON,its the same as have all the ingredients and lost the recipe to make the cake...:|

[Morgan]

is right

if you build it and dont have field test with PHENOMENON to try it, and the tuning of the passive receiver coil is made in front of the PHENOMENON,its the same as have all the ingredients and lost the recipe to make the cake...:|

to tune the passive Receiver you need to step by step adjust the RX coil DISTANCE of the circuit until in a critical point it catch the objective, it shows high capacitance near the coil,

also what the people here didnt experience yet, the coil as a polarity,it works better turned to one side

[Dubulumach]

field test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVT0OWkwABc


Thank you my friend. :)

Morgan's PDK 2 and 3 are extremely sensitive LRL machines. So sensitive they can easy sense small spark from 1.5 batt. at 3,5-4m. I think it's possible much more but mandatory need full electronic tuning, not manual.

I have tested and at some points they both could detect human aura, or even human breath. Also could detect shadows of trees and much more.

Morgan's idea is genous. His secret modification give hyper amplification of several million times which is unavailable for any other classic configuration. Yes very hard to tune if you do it 1st time but is easy when you did it several times.

Worth building and playing with it. There are all informations needed, but you need to read between rows.

Good luck with PDK 4 Morgan. I hope you will public findings with that LRL.

Regards
Dubulumach

[Morgan]

Thank you my friend. :)

Morgan's PDK 2 and 3 are extremely sensitive LRL machines. So sensitive they can easy sense small spark from 1.5 batt. at 3,5-4m. I think it's possible much more but mandatory need full electronic tuning, not manual.

I have tested and at some points they both could detect human aura, or even human breath. Also could detect shadows of trees and much more.

Morgan's idea is genous. His secret modification give hyper amplification of several million times which is unavailable for any other classic configuration. Yes very hard to tune if you do it 1st time but is easy when you did it several times.

Worth building and playing with it. There are all informations needed, but you need to read between rows.

Good luck with PDK 4 Morgan. I hope you will public findings with that LRL.

Regards
Dubulumach

Hello, how are you ?

here one video show how to tune the PDK-3 with DCH variant + TDA for gold resonance, distances are much bigger when all circuits inside a wood box, the video was made for experience test on LRL hobby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eGYVG25u4&feature=youtu.be

[Morgan]

there is no secrets, PDK-2 was put public, and PDK-3 is a DCH + TDA radio FM, the BIG FAYLURE on people here who try to build LRLs is:

THEY NOT HAVE FIELD TEST WITH GOLD AND SILVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE !!!!!!!!!!

many years ago, I buried this metals for tests,and I have more gold and silver buried in remote areas for more accurate tests on all kind of LRLs ;)

[folharin]

Este morgan n?o ? o verdadeiro morgan!!🙊

[folharin]

group moderator this person is not who he really is

[abdou2014]

PDK-3 mission accomplished, real longrangelocators :D

[aft_72005]

Hello, how are you ?

here one video show how to tune the PDK-3 with DCH variant + TDA for gold resonance, distances are much bigger when all circuits inside a wood box, the video was made for experience test on LRL hobby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eGYVG25u4&feature=youtu.be


??????

[abdou2014]

The video link work , you have a local probleme

[Sneshko]

??????

Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8eGYVG25u4&feature=youtu.be

Regards:
Sneshko

[folharin]

I'm about 15 years on the forum .... my doubt and because morgam decided to be good.....:rolar os olhos::n?o n?o: