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Carl-NC
02-14-2013, 02:50 AM
This is one I don't recall seeing before:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTEK-GTX-711-LONG-RANGE-GOLD-DETECTOR-THE-BEST-OF-THE-BEST-/150994972839?pt=US_Metal_Detectors&hash=item23280070a7

The seller seems to know what it is:

Due to the nature of this product it is being sold "as is" returns will not be accepted.

BENZINAS
02-14-2013, 03:48 AM
'' returns will not accepted '' stay away my friend , the video is fake !

Geo
02-14-2013, 05:34 AM
This is one I don't recall seeing before:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTEK-GTX-711-LONG-RANGE-GOLD-DETECTOR-THE-BEST-OF-THE-BEST-/150994972839?pt=US_Metal_Detectors&hash=item23280070a7

The seller seems to know what it is:

Due to the nature of this product it is being sold "as is" returns will not be accepted.


Carl, nothing special.
Vertical antenna transmitting and the horizon receives the signal.
Before years there was something like this at Greece from a Greek manufactuer and i opened 3 of them. They would say that it received positrons but i don't know HOW????
So for my opinion it is a 2Box type for large objects.

Regards:)

Dave J.
02-14-2013, 07:36 AM
I see we're squarely in the middle of "read the advertisement!" territory again.

The advertisers know what they're selling. They can't make what they know go away while they're writing the advertisement, so the advertisement reveals what they know.

If you want to be lied to, you'll get your wish. If you want the truth, that's available too-- from the same source.

What do you want? Either way, you've got it. Just read the advertisement.


--Dave J.

Sneshko
02-14-2013, 09:30 AM
Carl, nothing special.
Vertical antenna transmitting and the horizon receives the signal.
Before years there was something like this at Greece from a Greek manufactuer and i opened 3 of them. They would say that it received positrons but i don't know HOW????
So for my opinion it is a 2Box type for large objects.

Regards:)

Hi Carl!
Geo is 100% right!
Protek is 2Boks transmitter and receiver that works on the same principle as Possitron.
Regards!
Sneshko

P. S.
Video is a scam!!!

Dedevil
02-16-2013, 10:41 AM
Carl, nothing special.
Vertical antenna transmitting and the horizon receives the signal.
Before years there was something like this at Greece from a Greek manufactuer and i opened 3 of them. They would say that it received positrons but i don't know HOW????
So for my opinion it is a 2Box type for large objects.

Regards:)

Spot on Geo! Positron detection! It looks like a very cheap and nasty piece with a high price tag but the idea of positron detection is good.

Geo defenaltly knows his radios.

rgds

Carl-NC
02-16-2013, 08:22 PM
It's called "positronic detection," not positron detection. Positron detection doesn't even make sense.

Geo
02-17-2013, 07:01 AM
It's called "positronic detection," not positron detection. Positron detection doesn't even make sense.

Carl, "Positron" was the name of a LRL made in Greece before 10...15 years and was about the same as the Protek GTX711. I"ll try to find it and to post a photo

Geo
02-17-2013, 07:09 AM
some photos...

Sneshko
02-17-2013, 08:27 PM
Details Protek GTH 711 at this link:

http://www.gold-detector.gr/template/2012-05-23-16-44-45/protek-gtx-711

Regards!
Sneshko

Qiaozhi
02-17-2013, 10:50 PM
Details Protek GTH 711 at this link:

http://www.gold-detector.gr/template/2012-05-23-16-44-45/protek-gtx-711

Regards!
Sneshko
English (sort of) translation ->
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://www.gold-detector.gr/template/2012-05-23-16-44-45/protek-gtx-711

If you read this carefully, it looks suspiciously to me like it's mounted on a swinging handle, so it's probably nothing more than a glorified dowsing rod.

Dedevil
02-18-2013, 08:31 AM
For positron detection you need a fixed handle and the meter and arm movement shows the way.

Sneshko
02-18-2013, 09:55 AM
If you read this carefully, it looks suspiciously to me like it's mounted on a swinging handle, so it's probably nothing more than a glorified dowsing rod.

Hi Qiaozhi !
Protek GTX 711 has a metal handle fixed to the device.
Metal handle is also GND.
This device is not dowsing rod.
Regards!
Sneshko

Qiaozhi
02-18-2013, 08:27 PM
Hi Qiaozhi !
Protek GTX 711 has a metal handle fixed to the device.
Metal handle is also GND.
This device is not dowsing rod.
Regards!
Sneshko
Thanks for clearing that up.
It was very unclear from the description.

Dedevil
02-26-2013, 05:41 AM
You must admit that proton detection does sound good:)

Sneshko
02-27-2013, 06:34 AM
Hi Geo!
Do you remember what is the value of the variable capacitor ?
Thanks in advance for the answer !

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8425/geopossitron.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/geopossitron.jpg/)

All the best and regards !
Sneshko

Geo
02-27-2013, 09:20 PM
I think... near to 80pF.

kaligula
05-23-2013, 09:46 PM
can anyone plz to put shematic for this lrl here??:rolleyes:

Seden
05-24-2013, 06:52 AM
I suspect that it's tuned to 6 khz and is looking for a phase difference between the vertical and horizontal antennas.

Randy

goldfinder
05-25-2013, 05:53 PM
It's called "positronic detection," not positron detection. Positron detection doesn't even make sense.

As I recall, the circuits were positronic from the character "DATA" from star trek 2nd generation.

Sounds like their detector is sci fi too!

Goldfinder

g-sani
05-25-2013, 07:31 PM
I sell the same machine for 1900 euro if anyone is interested.
:D

reza vir
05-27-2013, 02:19 PM
hi carl :)
Any type of device is Wolf?
The transmitter antenna is up and
Antenna receiver front?
Operating frequency range of the device is it?

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Before you start operating the PROTEK, carefully follow the following instructions:
1. Screw well and as tightly as possible the antenna system and the base handle/gear.
2. Insert the security key and turn it to the right, in order to supply the device with electrical power.
3. Hold the device horizontally and now turn on the PROTEK GTX 711 by switching the ON/OFF volume switch to the right and adjust sound to the desired volume.
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· POWER ON – lights up when in operation
· SEC KEY – LOCK - use it to secure the device
· OFF/ON – use it to turn on/off
· FRONT AND REAR PL259 SOCKETS – use them to install the antenna system.
CAUTION!


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The user of PROTEK GTX 711 must keep the devise in a dry and cool place, away from direct sunrays or extremely high temperatures.
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The PROTEK GTX 711 system includes the following parts:


Instruction manual
Special dimensional antenna system 2 antennas
Special aluminium hand gear
Charger
Aluminium carrying case

It is being sold as used .
Auction includes only what is shown in picture. Due to the nature of this product it is being sold "as is" returns will not be accepted.

Thank you for Looking
Happy Bidding

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janise koestner
08-09-2013, 01:18 PM
This gold detector sounds good. Anyone heard the white metal detector? Is that suitable for metal detecting beginners?

janise koestner
08-13-2013, 02:02 AM
Metal detecting beginner here. Anyone can recommend some easy operation metal detectors for beginners. Well, I prefer the white metal detectors (http://www.detectorall.com/categories/Gold-Metal-Detectors/).

Dave J.
08-13-2013, 03:17 AM
Janise, this is an LRL forum, it's not about metal detectors. The metal detector websites I recommend are TreasureNet and Findmall.

--Dave J.

LRLMAN
08-20-2013, 07:54 PM
Hi Geo, I think the capacitor is of a value of 820 PF and the working frequency is 27Hz

Geo
08-22-2013, 05:42 AM
Hi Tim.
Capacitor is 80pf and frequency is 800Khz.

Regards:)

Geo
12-26-2013, 07:54 PM
This is one I don't recall seeing before:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROTEK-GTX-711-LONG-RANGE-GOLD-DETECTOR-THE-BEST-OF-THE-BEST-/150994972839?pt=US_Metal_Detectors&hash=item23280070a7

The seller seems to know what it is:

Due to the nature of this product it is being sold "as is" returns will not be accepted.

Carl a photo from inside the Protek.
I have one for repairing:cool:

Carl-NC
12-26-2013, 11:19 PM
Geo, I'm not at all disappointed. Like most LRLs I've dissected, it appears to have been built by preschool youngsters.







Wait for it... wait for it...

Geo
12-27-2013, 06:09 AM
Geo, I'm not at all disappointed. Like most LRLs I've dissected, it appears to have been built by preschool youngsters.







Wait for it... wait for it...

I agree, the more lrls manufactured by private individuals rather than companies.

But if they work..... it's an other story :lol:

Mehr076
03-28-2023, 09:43 PM
some photos...

Hello, please send me this file sechematic

alibruce076@gmail.com

sinclairuser
05-25-2023, 03:28 PM
i thought positrons can not exist in our universe(without magnetic constriction)?.:lol:

arben
07-26-2023, 10:19 AM
hi geo
can you send schematic diagram of protek gtx711 pleace?

Dubulumach
07-26-2023, 11:25 AM
I agree, the more lrls manufactured by private individuals rather than companies.

But if they work..... it's an other story :lol:




Hello my friend Geo.


I've personally known one man from a very beautiful town known as Karditsa which LRLs work. :) And work perfect.:) I have tested at my own. Gold was a target, what do you want more...:razz:


The secret of LRL must not be public. What the point is if anyone have perfect GOLD detector at very large distance. :nono:

stampa
08-02-2023, 10:03 PM
The world is full of junk at tempting prices. Starting prices 5000+ euros ... hurry up

folharin
08-04-2023, 04:53 AM
Carl a photo from inside the Protek.
I have one for repairing:cool:

my friend geo! i respect and admire you as a good connoisseur of long distance devices

Geo
12-07-2023, 08:29 PM
:cheers:
:):)

ERDOGAN37
03-13-2024, 09:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faNME9xRxUU

Geo
03-17-2024, 06:35 PM
It seems more with a Totem than a Protek