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Golden_Statue

01-07-2012, 09:50 AM

J_Player

01-07-2012, 10:22 AM

Hello to all
I've searched the internet and I found this circuit.This seems to be a practical circuit.
What is your opinion about this circuit and its performance?
http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reports/tscope/index.dat

:)SincerelyI think if you read the article that you posted for this device you will find the answer.
Look at the bottom where an electronic engineer tests it:
"It is a simple matter for an LRL dealer to "demonstrate" their device using visible targets, showing a prospective customer what to expect when they try it.
And when they try it, they usually get the response they were told to expect, due to psychological conditioning.
This is exactly what Mr. Thomas does at treasure shows.
However, when I saw him performing this misleading demonstration, I asked if he could still detect his target (a gold-and-diamond ring) when he could not see it, and did not know where it was.
He said he could, so I challenged him to a simple test using paper cups to conceal the ring.
He was highly reluctant to do this, but finally agreed.
Although he had been demonstrating his LRLs during the treasure show with 100% "success", when we did the paper cup test, he failed to locate the ring even once in six attempts.
This is explained in more detail in the Treasure Scope Test (http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=info/JimThomas/index.dat) article.

My own tests of the Quad failed to produce any response whatsoever.
The device gave no indication for a 1-ounce gold bar, a 10-ounce silver bar, and a stack of 20 one-dollar bills, even when the targets were very close, and plainly visible.....

...The operational theory of the Quad is bogus.
The claim that the Quad will mechanically lock on a target, is false.
The claim that the Quad will detect any "object", is false. The only "things" the Quad is capable of detecting, are gravity and strong wind.

Copyright © 2004 Carl W. Moreland (carl@geotech1.com), all rights reserved".

After you read the entire article that you posted above, then read this: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=info/JimThomas/index.dat

You will see the manufacturer of this supposed LRL was unable to make it work to find where Carl hid the treasure.
The person who makes this LRL can only use it to find treasure that he already knows the location of.
He cannot make it work to find treasure that he does not know the location of.

If this is the kind of treasure locator that you want, then maybe you should buy it.
But if you want tools to find treasure that you don't know the location of, maybe it is better to save your money and time for better treasure hunting tools.

Best wishes, :)
J_P

hung

01-07-2012, 10:42 AM

Golden_Statue

01-07-2012, 10:54 AM

I think if you read the article that you posted for this device you will find the answer.
Look at the bottom where an electronic engineer tests it:
"It is a simple matter for an LRL dealer to "demonstrate" their device using visible targets, showing a prospective customer what to expect when they try it.
And when they try it, they usually get the response they were told to expect, due to psychological conditioning.
This is exactly what Mr. Thomas does at treasure shows.
However, when I saw him performing this misleading demonstration, I asked if he could still detect his target (a gold-and-diamond ring) when he could not see it, and did not know where it was.
He said he could, so I challenged him to a simple test using paper cups to conceal the ring.
He was highly reluctant to do this, but finally agreed.
Although he had been demonstrating his LRLs during the treasure show with 100% "success", when we did the paper cup test, he failed to locate the ring even once in six attempts.
This is explained in more detail in the Treasure Scope Test (http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=info/JimThomas/index.dat) article.

My own tests of the Quad failed to produce any response whatsoever.
The device gave no indication for a 1-ounce gold bar, a 10-ounce silver bar, and a stack of 20 one-dollar bills, even when the targets were very close, and plainly visible.....

...The operational theory of the Quad is bogus.
The claim that the Quad will mechanically lock on a target, is false.
The claim that the Quad will detect any "object", is false. The only "things" the Quad is capable of detecting, are gravity and strong wind.

Copyright © 2004 Carl W. Moreland (carl@geotech1.com), all rights reserved".

After you read the entire article that you posted above, then read this: http://www.geotech1.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=info/JimThomas/index.dat

You will see the manufacturer of this supposed LRL was unable to make it work to find where Carl hid the treasure.
The person who makes this LRL can only use it to find treasure that he already knows the location of.
He cannot make it work to find treasure that he does not know the location of.

If this is the kind of treasure locator that you want, then maybe you should buy it.
But if you want tools to find treasure that you don't know the location of, maybe it is better to save your money and time for better treasure hunting tools.

Best wishes, :)
J_P
tanks j-p
If the voltage and current in the antenna is up to you to solve this problem?

Golden_Statue

01-07-2012, 11:11 AM

Let us help make changes for the implementation of this:
Adding filters to improve and enhance the efficiency of this device is?

J_Player

01-07-2012, 11:27 AM

tanks j-p
If the voltage and current in the antenna is up to you to solve this problem?Hi Golden_Statue,
There is nothing here for me to solve.
The solution was already determined by an electronic engineer who was sued for telling the truth that it did not work when manufacturer tested it.
The person who manufactured this locator could not make it work at all.
So we know it does not work unless you already know the location of the treasure.
The solution is known... trash can.

Solution for antenna... no extra power is needed. It already is working to find treasure exactly as it does for the manufacturer.
You can hide a ring and then use this locator to find the ring as long as you know where the ring is hidden.
So you can see it works perfectly just as it did for the manufacturer, with no modifications needed.
Modifications to increase the power at the antenna will destroy the ability to find hidden rings that you know the location of.
Say hi to mesy64 and Jack for me. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/good.gif

Best wishes, :)
J_P

Golden_Statue

01-07-2012, 12:22 PM

Say hi to mesy64 and Jack for me. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/good.gif

J_P

why mesy64 and jack?????????????????????8)

usta

01-07-2012, 02:53 PM

Hi Golden_Statue,
Say hi to mesy64 and Jack for me.

Best wishes, :)
J_P

Hahahha... yes :lol::lol::lol: Hi J-P, you are very clever!
mesy64 is in any where, wow...!

J_Player

01-07-2012, 04:21 PM

why mesy64 and jack?????????????????????8)Hahahahaaa.... http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/roll.gif

Because they use the same google translator that you use, and send their posts from the same PC that you do.
Did you ever stop to wonder if you are being watched by more people than a few Middle Eastern government officials?
:
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:
From the desktop of mesy64/Jack/Golden_Statue:

Translate from: Arabic (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:void%280%29)

Type text or a website address or translate a document. (http://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en)
Cancel (http://translate.google.com/?tr=t&hl=en)

Persian - detected to English translation
If the voltage and current in the antenna is up to you to solve this problem?

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17599&stc=1&d=1323729073

Best wishes, :)
J_P

WM6

01-07-2012, 05:15 PM

Hahahahaaa.... http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/roll.gif

Because they use the same google translator that you use, and send their posts from the same PC that you do.
Did you ever stop to wonder if you are being watched by more people than a few Middle Eastern government officials?
:
:
:
From the desktop of mesy64/Jack/Golden_Statue:

Translate from: Arabic (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:void%280%29)

Type text or a website address or translate a document. (http://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en)
Cancel (http://translate.google.com/?tr=t&hl=en)

Persian - detected to English translation
If the voltage and current in the antenna is up to you to solve this problem?

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17599&stc=1&d=1323729073

Best wishes, :)
J_P

Messy, be careful, J_P use working Long Range Locator.

Fred

01-07-2012, 08:05 PM

Back in 2006 a guy in my team built this device and it worked for him.
I suggest you do the same. Build it and test it yourself. Don't rely on anybody's 'reports'.
(...)
The only person who can tell you if it works or not for you is yourself.

As a sidenote, I think XR2206 might be discontinued. You could try a 8038 or another function generator.

Well, this is a good demonstration of hung´s scientific spirit :rolleyes:

Of course with this kind of afirmations everything "works"...And can be sold to multi K$ , even if constitued of a simple XR2206 ic

J_Player

01-08-2012, 01:19 AM

Well, this is a good demonstration of hung´s scientific spirit :rolleyes:

Of course with this kind of afirmations everything "works"...And can be sold to multi K$ , even if constitued of a simple XR2206 icHi Fred,
I do not think Dr. hung believes everything works.
If you want to understand the science of gold DNA, you must first accept that double blind testing does not work.
This kind of testing does not prove anything.
And you must accept that electronic engineering and electronics theory does not work either because of new revisions in quantum mechanics and quantum physics which Dr. hung's associate, Myron Evans discovered.
Not only do the LRLs that hung recommend work, he also has access to circuits which produce free power from a vacuum.
This proves that all metal detectors are only toys, and the real detectors are Mineoro, OKM, and Rangertell.

Where is the proof?
Not from double blind testing,
Not from reading hundreds of reports from people who used these locators and tell how they saw they do not work.
The proof can only come if you do as Dr. hung says: ...test it yourself -- Don't rely on anybody's 'reports.

The method to find proof is to send money to the manufacturers of these LRLs to buy them.
Then after you receive your new LRL, you can make more forum posts to tell how you saw proof that they work... Just like Michael did.
...But wait... Michael did not report that his new Mineoro FG80 worked.
He reported that it did not work...! http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17736&stc=1&d=1325442464

Hmmmm... it seems to me everyone who bought the LRLs recommended by Dr. hung reported they do not work as they were advertised to work. :nono:

Originally Posted by michael
"we searched all the hole by our MD, no metal, no metal,....
now we are in high hesitation to dig only based on FG80 results. maybe we need some special leadings, maybe it has problem in pinponting,... anyway we are going to loose our temper for this device as it behaves crazy many times ( continuous and meaningless beepings).
sometimes we have signal in 1-3 times horizontal movement then disappears whereas have it only in vertically movement!!!,......."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47738#post47738

originally posted by Carl-NC
"...the FG80 does not detect the gold test sheet (actually, gold-plated brass, I think) that was included with the detector. It also does not detect my 10-ounce gold bar...."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47488#post47488

originally posted by mosha
"I bought DC2007 before two months but there is no success yet!"
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45337#post45337

originally posted by ivconic
"...WITH MINEOROS PRODUCTS I DO HAVE ONLY NEGATIVE,BAD EXPERIENCES
SO I CAN NOT RESPECT MINEORO UNTIL SOMETHING GOOD SHOWS UP FROM THEM!
NAKED TRUTH!..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46044#post46044

originally posted by Alexismex
"...for the Forum many people here in Mexico was trapped in internet and pay cash these funny detector for to find NOTHING , not gold not silver not a small piece of iron.... nothing only the big laughing of Mineoro "inventor"....with the cash in his pocket..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=41017#post41017

Originally Posted by resamery
"Do not waste your time on LRLs. I myself have used different brands available in the market and also have heard many feedbacks and observations from those having used LRLs... "
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=48025#post48025

originally posted by neronc
"For my part I begin to be tired of Mineoro.
I bought a Fg80 in July and this appariel sounded on everything.
He had to take the cool gold and nothing not even to 50cm.
Mineoro sent me an automatic Fg80 and this one doesn't react anymore of the all.
They explain that it sounds on the electric circuits and on the grooves provided gold with......... nothing, more of reaction of the all.
I find incredible that Mineoro provides you a device that doesn't work.
Does this device have of the to be tested before its departure of the factory????..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=50315#post50315

originally posted by Seeker
"Poor, poor neronc ! To spend 7500 Euro for nothing !
For that money you can buy 5 excellent MD or one GPR !
So, what deal !"
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=50318#post50318

Originally Posted by Morris_jo
"Since 3 years, i was very interested to buy a mineoro device, i thought it do magic through T.H , as you can find a treasure from a distance that may reach 800 meter, even to determine the depth and the center point to DIGG !!
But for now, i am sure 100% it`s A very high techniques used in T.H SCAM, to fool PPL. and steal their money as piece of cake ....
I wonder, Why all these Manuafactures or Companies or " Inventors " take alot of time, money, efforts, tests .... etc , after while they came up with a miracle " The Big scam Of LRL " !!!!..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53459#post53459

Originally Posted by Geo
"Don't spend your time with Mineoro!!!"
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125589#post125589

Originally Posted by hawk17966
"I had chance to check and go on the field with very few of those: PDC210,FG78 and last week with FG80.....None of them is mine,but from people who comes to me to ask for some explanation cose they realised that they made mistake and waste money....."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46622#post46622

originally posted by michael
"...If I hadn't seen found treasures by LRLs ,I would never have bought FG80, anyway it is a new experience albeit maybe thoroughly useless..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47738#post47738

Originally Posted by Fred
"...-The mineoro´s movie is obviously a fake.It would definitively dissuade me of buying such a detector, and anything from them, if it ever had this intention .
The beeping is not real, does not correspond to the movements of the operator, and worst , we can clearly see the grass has been carefully cut and put back on place before digging it again..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=81512#post81512

originally posted by Alexismex
"...For the Mineoro Fg80 we make many test: east west north south , trim the control another and another and another time , waiting for warming electronic...,we have "fresh gold" to test ,from 1 inch to several feet no response , NEVER ONE TIME , sometime when you move the test card you have a beep ...
but shure when you want a beep you must lower towards to the earth, shure you have your beep...."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47559#post47559

Originally Posted by vcrb
"Well-Well-Well............... seems that you gentlemen are starting to get the same results that we did. Did not work on pure gold, alloyed gold, gold that was buried for several years and just about anything you can imagine. We did EXTENSIVE testing in all types of weather and at different times of the year. It really only took about one day to know that the units did not work. We tried and tried but to no avail."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47501#post47501

originally posted by connie
"...I bought a DC2008 from mineoro. ( I really had a brain wash from Brazil )..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=96087#post96087

originally posted by Morgan
"MINEORO LRL´s are very EXPENSIVE,they not work as advertised,so they must reduce the price,or stop sales !!!..."
"...we can see,this is the consequence of so many lies coming from mineoro factory,field test and movies..."
"...Yes,Connie was very happy in Brazil but when return to her country discover that MINEORO is not what THEY DEMONSTRATE IN THE FACTORY !!!.
She conclude they make a brain wash,until the point they hipnotize people to believe in their tricks, its a shame...."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=127935#post127935
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128523#post128523
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128080#post128080

originally posted by bugwhiskers
"...If they fake their promotional videos you can bet your last dollar the product will be equally fake..."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=60207#post60207

Originally Posted by neronc
"I have the automatic model with 999 upgrade
You pass the gold sheet in front, at 4 meters,1 meter, 20 cm and nothing.
Switch the light on ,off......nothing"
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=48814#post48814

originally posted by gibon
i stll have my Dc . Wanted to sell it but the guy test it and ask garanti. Mineoro garanti ? What For ? Send it back to Brazil !!
I gave him back the money. I don't want have problem and be prossecuted .
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128069#post128069

originally posted by Agraz
"...I have DC2006, but are erratic, may be I cant read or understand good the instructions."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128685#post128685

Originally Posted by hawk17966
"...As i experimented with PDC210 so many times and later with Zahori...both devices "beep"-ed so many times in so many directions that made me crazy and of will to dig anywhere...."
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46547#post46547 (http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46547#post46547)

So remember... do not believe these reports....
Buy your own Mineoro locator and see for yourself if it works or not, then make your forum post to tell us how well it works for you. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/good.gif

Best wishes, :)
J_P

daryo

02-05-2012, 07:30 PM