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jack
12-14-2011, 08:06 AM
hi to all
1-Do you send a low frequency, high voltage and amps to stimulate earth metals and their reaction is severe?
2-This reaction can be downloaded by Lrod??
3-Who has the schematic for LROAD brass rods of land to filter some streaks?
4-What is the sensitivity of the orbital accuracy LROAD (brass rods) to the reaction was carried out by the brass wire is connected to the circuit?
5-What do you recommend brass rods for the circuit?
6-Brass rods should be dealt with whether the man is or insulation?
WHITH RESPECT
JACK

WM6
12-14-2011, 08:39 AM
hi to all
1-Do you send a low frequency, high voltage and amps to stimulate earth metals and their reaction is severe?
2-This reaction can be downloaded by Lrod??
3-Who has the schematic for LROAD brass rods of land to filter some streaks?
4-What is the sensitivity of the orbital accuracy LROAD (brass rods) to the reaction was carried out by the brass wire is connected to the circuit?
5-What do you recommend brass rods for the circuit?
6-Brass rods should be dealt with whether the man is or insulation?
WHITH RESPECT
JACK



In field of dowsing it is not about sort of dowsing rod.

Dowsing rods are only matter of personal preference.

It is all about dowser and his extrasense ability only.

If one has extrasense ability for unconscious perception some sign in nature which are usually overlooked by ordinary people, this one has dowsing predispositions, no matter of dowsing rod they used.

Extrasensing ability can be replaced by knowledge in natural science (geology, bothanic, chemistry etc.). In this case you even do not need dowsing rod to find undergrund water, mineral ore etc. You need only to observe carefully the surroundings natural phenomena and conclude on your knowledge basis.

jack
12-14-2011, 10:37 AM
TANK YOU DEAR WM6
You did not answer my questions:frown:

WM6
12-14-2011, 12:33 PM
TANK YOU DEAR WM6
You did not answer my questions:frown:



I think I answered in essence, if you understand what I am saying. In topic subject you asking for theory not for practical solutions.

In your question you are trying to mix L-rod with electronic remote detecting devices. It is not the same. L-rod is dowsing utility and technicaly cannot be treated as electronic remote detecting device. And, sorry, all your questions are not clear to me.

1-Do you send a low frequency, high voltage and amps to stimulate earth metals and their reaction is severe?

You do not need to do this. There are a broad band spectrum of frequencies from natural and artifical sources down to earth, that "stimulate" metals in soil. You need only to detect proper one and correctly explain what you detect.

2-This reaction can be downloaded by Lrod??

If you are extrasensor in ULF/VLF/RF spectrum, then YES, otherwise NO.

3-Who has the schematic for LROAD brass rods of land to filter some streaks?

I dont know, and I dont fully understand this question too.

4-What is the sensitivity of the orbital accuracy LROAD (brass rods) to the reaction was carried out by the brass wire is connected to the circuit?

I dont fully understand this question.

5-What do you recommend brass rods for the circuit?

I dont fully understand this question.

6-Brass rods should be dealt with whether the man is or insulation?

According most of dowsing theories: for proper dovsing, your body need to be in direct touch with Brass rods, without any insulation between your hand and brass (or other metal or wooden/best fresh/) rods. From science poits of view dowsing rods are only tools to help dowser keep concentration on matter.

jack
12-16-2011, 09:34 AM
tank you very much
I want a circuit that is sensitive to signal the brass rods of metal which is located in the basement?
What is the phenomenon which occurs when the metal is brass wires underground will be multiplied to arrive?
I want to sensitize the orbital brass rods.Diagram is similar to that shown in the picture??same spectra lrl
please help me
with respect jack

WM6
12-16-2011, 12:44 PM
As I understand, you are asking for this circuit? (in this case hands have to be well isolated from brass rods):

Morgan
12-16-2011, 01:51 PM
As I understand, you are asking for this circuit? (in this case hands have to be well isolated from brass rods):

I allways thougt no need a second circuit to oprerate the Rods in Karl´s MFD...

WM6
12-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Or if you prefer digital with sound in conjunction with LED (you need to isolate your hand from brass rods here too):

WM6
12-16-2011, 02:01 PM
I allways thougt no need a second circuit to oprerate the Rods in Karl´s MFD...

Maybe our friend "jack" know more .... people should be happy, so I gave him schematic.

jack
12-16-2011, 03:09 PM
tank you very very much wm6
In general, what occurs when brass on metal wires are multiplied?
Circuits that what you are doing?
What do I have attached the circuit?

WM6
12-16-2011, 04:47 PM
In general, what occurs when brass on metal wires are multiplied?
Circuits that what you are doing?
What do I have attached the circuit?

"multiplied?" - I guess nothing, you only have heavier dowsing rods.

No, I do not make this circuit - this is special schematic for born dowser only.

Connection points between circuit and dowsing rods are this:

jack
12-16-2011, 05:05 PM
tank you dear wm6
For these circuits should be insulated with a brass rod?
his circuit, how to help brass rods for metal?
Reception rod is brass with more circuits?

WM6
12-16-2011, 05:19 PM
For these circuits should be insulated with a brass rod?
his circuit, how to help brass rods for metal?
Reception rod is brass with more circuits?



Yes brass rod handle have to be insulated from your hand, otherwise circiut will not work.

Other questions are not clear to me, sorry. My English knowledge is too limited to decipher your words.

If you use translator, try to build as much correct sentences as you can in your native language, othervise translator give you (and me too) wordish nonsence.

jack
12-16-2011, 05:37 PM
Yes brass rod handle have to be insulated from your hand, otherwise circiut will not work.

Other questions are not clear to me, sorry. My English knowledge is too limited to decipher your words.

If you use translator, try to build as much correct sentences as you can in your native language, othervise translator give you (and me too) wordish nonsence.
njegov krog, kako pomagati medeninaste palice za metal?
Sprejem palica je iz medenine z več vezij?

Geo
12-16-2011, 07:58 PM
tank you very much
I want a circuit that is sensitive to signal the brass rods of metal which is located in the basement?
What is the phenomenon which occurs when the metal is brass wires underground will be multiplied to arrive?
I want to sensitize the orbital brass rods.Diagram is similar to that shown in the picture??same spectra lrl
please help me
with respect jack

You can try with a 9V battery and a 100k resistor in series with one rod. It is very strange, but with this you will have an increase at sensitivity.

Geo
12-16-2011, 08:00 PM
As I understand, you are asking for this circuit? (in this case hands have to be well isolated from brass rods):

With this schematic you try to take the signal from lrods and to turn on the PLL. I tried it before years without results:(.

WM6
12-16-2011, 09:30 PM
njegov krog, kako pomagati medeninaste palice za metal?
Sprejem palica je iz medenine z več vezij?

Dear jack,

your Slovenian is great, but questions in whole has no sense, so I cannot give you an answer.

What is your native language, cay you put here your question in your native language?
Maybe this will help. Or even better: draw your idea and we will comment.



With this schematic you try to take the signal from lrods and to turn on the PLL. I tried it before years without results:(.

Agree Geo, but, as you can see, jack insist on those construction so we can try to help him. It is better for him to build this than buy something shamelessly overpriced from Mineoro or others similar scam companies.

WM6
12-17-2011, 12:24 AM
Here complete schematic with PCB (PCB 3.5x3.5", Corrections: for D1 use 1N4148 and for C1 22pF) :

WM6
12-17-2011, 02:47 AM
List of material:

Geo
12-17-2011, 06:02 AM
Dear jack,

your Slovenian is great, but questions in whole has no sense, so I cannot give you an answer.

What is your native language, cay you put here your question in your native language?
Maybe this will help. Or even better: draw your idea and we will comment.



Agree Geo, but, as you can see, jack insist on those construction so we can try to help him. It is better for him to build this than buy something shamelessly overpriced from Mineoro or others similar scam companies.

From what i saw at photo attached from Jack, he need something to make the lrods more sensitive, or to make him more sensitive. You can draw with your 3D program a battery 9v with a resistor in series with one Lrod. The other Lrod is connected with the other pole of battery. There are people who says that they have high increase at their sensitivity when they work with Lrods.

Tim Williams
12-17-2011, 02:08 PM
I allways thougt no need a second circuit to oprerate the Rods in Karl´s MFD...


Morgan I noticed you have Au and Ag backwards.

Au 5K
Ag 8.7K

So they say....

Morgan
12-17-2011, 02:27 PM
Morgan I noticed you have Au and Ag backwards.

Au 5K
Ag 8.7K

So they say....

yes,this was one of my first LRL projects,maybe 6 years ago,i made it according Karl instructions in Geotech forum.But dowsing is not my favorite hobby...anyway i saw people with skill ability with rods.

jack
12-17-2011, 07:02 PM
Here complete schematic with PCB (PCB 3.5x3.5", Corrections: for D1 use 1N4148 and for C1 22pF) :
tank you very very much dear wm6
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect
jack

Sneshko
12-18-2011, 07:59 PM
Dear WM6!
You are very generous.
On behalf of all LRL fanatics,
Thanks for this electronic dowsin rods!
Regards!
Sneshko

WM6
12-18-2011, 08:00 PM
hi jack

I think it is better for you to buy one completed device, like this from Morgan:

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=140676&postcount=7

It is cheap in build with soul, which is by dowsing devices most important, namely, that it was build with soul and positive intention, not like mineoros and other scam devices which was build mechanically and with negative fraud intentions.

Geo
12-18-2011, 08:41 PM
Morgan I noticed you have Au and Ag backwards.

Au 5K
Ag 8.7K

So they say....

At my new dowsing rod i use 34Hz for Au, 60... 62 Hz for Al and 4.5 hz for Cu.
I will try to give photos and schematic at a new thread.
:)

WM6
12-18-2011, 09:13 PM
You are very generous.
On behalf of all LRL fanatics,
Thanks for this electronic dowsin rods!



You are welcome Sneshko.

Here suggested realisation design:

jack
12-18-2011, 10:26 PM
hi
Attachment is in the format sprint layout ;)
dear wm6 There is a brass rod with a wire connected to the circuit?
The circuit is located away from the bars? Similar images

WM6
12-18-2011, 10:53 PM
hi
Attachment is in the format sprint layout ;)
dear wm6 There is a brass rod with a wire connected to the circuit?
The circuit is located away from the bars? Similar images

Sorry, I use linux and cannot read your Sprint layout file.

Qiaozhi
12-18-2011, 11:36 PM
Sorry, I use linux and cannot read your Sprint layout file.
Go to http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html
Scroll to bottom of page.
Download "The Sprint-Layout Viewer"
View properties of viewlayout50.exe and tick the "Allow executing file as program" box, or use "su chmod 777 viewlayout50.exe" on the command line.
Start viewlayout50.exe and open the .LAY file.
File can be viewed in Ubuntu Linux, no problem. :cool:

Note - you must have WINE installed for this to work.

WM6
12-18-2011, 11:48 PM
Go to http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html
Scroll to bottom of page.
Download "The Sprint-Layout Viewer"
View properties of viewlayout50.exe and tick the "Allow executing file as program" box, or use "su chmod 777 viewlayout50.exe" on the command line.
Start viewlayout50.exe and open the .LAY file.
File can be viewed in Ubuntu Linux, no problem. :cool:

Note - you must have WINE installed for this to work.

Thanks Qiaozhi.

I have installed Wine and it works fine.

I am simply not interested to install additional software to view only what others wont pop-up in his posts. If others are lazy, I am lazy too.

jack
12-19-2011, 05:51 PM
tank you very very much dear wm6
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect
jack


please answer dear wm6

jack
12-19-2011, 10:20 PM
hi to all
This is a photos from MFD & LRODS & CIRCUIT (WM6) :razz:;)

WM6
12-19-2011, 11:07 PM
Nice handwork, jack.

Congratulations.

I wish you a lot of gold findings.

Seden
12-20-2011, 01:00 AM
Geo,

Regarding the PLL circuit, their is one that has the input going to one hand and the other input going to the other hand(with brass dowsing rods in each hand). I don't know if that is the circuit you built with no results but the one I describe here works on the basis of detecting changes in the brains waves in response to locating said target-not using the 567 to detect any VLF waves just so you know.

I remember buying that PLL schematic off some site that sells plans and I recognized how it worked once I thought about it. In that case it could possibly work (detecting the change in brain waves-alpha versus beta,etc.).

All speculation though,

Randy Seden

God's Country,California

jack
12-20-2011, 08:05 AM
Nice handwork, jack.

Congratulations.

I wish you a lot of gold findings.
tank you very much dear wm6 please answer to me
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect

WM6
12-20-2011, 09:52 AM
tank you very much dear wm6 please answer to me
Please explain the workings of the circuit for me?
How to help brass rods?
What makes a beep?
whith respect


All already explained, except questions which are out of my poor English knowledge.

At the end, dowser do not need to know how dowsing rod works, it is enough that those rods works for him as dowsing rods. So, make it and you will get all answers. It is very cheap and simple to use. And what is most important: works the same on all continents.

If you wish to discuss here your construction from your photo, then you need to post here at least shematic you use.

J_Player
12-21-2011, 12:55 AM
Morgan I noticed you have Au and Ag backwards.

Au 5K
Ag 8.7K

So they say....Hi Tim,
I am surprised to see you consider the frequencies for gold and silver to be Au 5K, Ag 8.7K. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/remember.gif

If I recall you previously said the MFD should be adjusted to the NMR frequency which is somewhere less than 60 Hz for gold here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125471#post125471

After a lot of discussion and research we figured all the details for calculating the correct NMR frequencies for gold and silver.
A summary can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125686#post125686 (http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125471#post125471)
Throughout that topic, you agreed that you use your magnetometer to take a reading where you are hunting for treasure before you adjust your frequency.
And you use frequencies for gold somewhere in the range of 32 Hz, not 5000 Hz.
You say in that post that you use 81 Hz for silver.... not 8.7K: "Lets say Ag @ 47000 nt is 80.99 hz. At 47010.5 it's not changed much but to 81.0. In my area the most it changes is about .1 hz from day to day".

We actually find that the NOAA daily averages for Chauvin, LA is average of 35,067.4 nT, not 47,000 nT.
The final gold formula reduces to NMR Frequency = nT measured at location/1339.8.
This calculates to a NMR frequency of 26.17 Hz for gold in the average earth magnetic field of Chauvin, LA today.
But we know the actual NMR frequency will vary between 16Hz and 50 Hz depending on where you are hunting for treasure in the Chauvin area.
This is because the magnetic field daily averages are only averages, and do not take into account the big variations in earth magnetic fields when we walk a few meters distance.
The actual earth field strength often doubles when we walk 100 feet distance across a treasure hunting field.

So, unless we actually measure the magnetic field strength within a few feet of where we are searching for treasure, we cannot know what is the NMR frequency of gold or any other element.
But if we do measure the actual magnetic field strength, we will find that the true NMR frequency for gold is between 16Hz and 50Hz for different location in the Chauvin area.
We will see that the NMR frequency cannot possibly rise above 50 Hz unless we introduce a very strong artificial magnetic field at the location where the metal is buried.

In order for the NMR frequency of gold to reach 5000 Hz, the gold must be in a magnetic field 191 times stronger than the average earth field of the earth in Chauvin, LA.
This means 5000 Hz cannot possibly be the NMR frequency of gold buried in the ground unless you put a very large and expensive coil to make a huge magnetic field where the gold is buried.

The same is true for silver.
The two NMR frequencies for stable silver isotopes are 69.44 Hz and 60.40 Hz in the magnetic field we see in Chauvin, LA today.
These frequencies are not 8.7K...!

In no case will we ever see the NMR frequency of gold or silver rise over 100 Hz without putting the metal in a very strong magnetic field.
The true NMR gold frequency is closer to what Geo says --- "...i use 34Hz for Au"

My question is:
Have you changed your mind to think that the NMR frequency of gold and silver have now been changed to the KHz frequencies instead of 18-100 Hz frequencies?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Tim Williams
12-21-2011, 01:14 AM
Hi Tim,
I am surprised to see you consider the frequencies for gold and silver to be Au 5K, Ag 8.7K. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/remember.gif

If I recall you previously said the MFD should be adjusted to the NMR frequency which is somewhere less than 60 Hz for gold here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125471#post125471

After a lot of discussion and research we figured all the details for calculating the correct NMR frequencies for gold and silver.
A summary can be found here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125686#post125686 (http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125471#post125471)
Throughout that topic, you agreed that you use your magnetometer to take a reading where you are hunting for treasure before you adjust your frequency.
And you use frequencies for gold somewhere in the range of 32 Hz, not 5000 Hz.
You say in that post that you use 81 Hz for silver.... not 8.7K: "Lets say Ag @ 47000 nt is 80.99 hz. At 47010.5 it's not changed much but to 81.0. In my area the most it changes is about .1 hz from day to day".

We actually find that the NOAA daily averages for Chauvin, LA is average of 35,067.4 nT, not 47,000 nT.
The final gold formula reduces to NMR Frequency = nT measured at location/1339.8.
This calculates to a NMR frequency of 26.17 Hz for gold in the average earth magnetic field of Chauvin, LA today.
But we know the actual NMR frequency will vary between 16Hz and 50 Hz depending on where you are hunting for treasure in the Chauvin area.
This is because the magnetic field daily averages are only averages, and do not take into account the big variations in earth magnetic fields when we walk a few meters distance.
The actual earth field strength often doubles when we walk 100 feet distance across a treasure hunting field.

So, unless we actually measure the magnetic field strength within a few feet of where we are searching for treasure, we cannot know what is the NMR frequency of gold or any other element.
But if we do measure the actual magnetic field strength, we will find that the true NMR frequency for gold is between 16Hz and 50Hz for different location in the Chauvin area.
We will see that the NMR frequency cannot possibly rise above 50 Hz unless we introduce a very strong artificial magnetic field at the location where the metal is buried.

In order for the NMR frequency of gold to reach 5000 Hz, the gold must be in a magnetic field 191 times stronger than the average earth field of the earth in Chauvin, LA.
This means 5000 Hz cannot possibly be the NMR frequency of gold buried in the ground unless you put a very large and expensive coil to make a huge magnetic field where the gold is buried.

The same is true for silver.
The two NMR frequencies for stable silver isotopes are 69.44 Hz and 60.40 Hz in the magnetic field we see in Chauvin, LA today.
These frequencies are not 8.7K...!

In no case will we ever see the NMR frequency of gold or silver rise over 100 Hz without putting the metal in a very strong magnetic field.
The true NMR gold frequency is closer to what Geo says --- "...i use 34Hz for Au"

My question is:
Have you changed your mind to think that the NMR frequency of gold and silver have now been changed to the KHz frequencies instead of 18-100 Hz frequencies?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Notice I say "so they say" The 5k and 8.7k are very old frequencies from the 80's! I have a EFNMR program on my site I wrote for earth field nmr frequencies. I was just pointing out the titling was wrong on the switch.

J_Player
12-21-2011, 01:25 AM
Notice I say "so they say" The 5k and 8.7k are very old frequencies from the 80's! I have a EFNMR program on my site I wrote for earth field nmr frequencies. I was just pointing out the titling was wrong on the switch.Hi Tim,
Yes, I did notice you said "so they say".
This is why I was wondering what you actually think.
I see from your previous post you said you think "they" are wrong: "Yes yes to all of the above! Very good.
...They use fixed because they don't know".

So I asked to see if you still have the same idea that "they" are wrong...
Or did you change your idea to think that KHz are the NMR frequencies for gold and silver?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

kostas87
12-21-2011, 01:15 PM
You can try with a 9V battery and a 100k resistor in series with one rod. It is very strange, but with this you will have an increase at sensitivity.

Hello to all ..
this is true .... that is a testament to the combination was something starts working!
maybe we should begin thinking about how he works;
What makes resistance to a battery which gives as your STRONG signals;
and only the battery is not working;
What really should do; and what exactly; :)

Tim Williams
12-21-2011, 01:31 PM
Hi Tim,
Yes, I did notice you said "so they say".
This is why I was wondering what you actually think.
I see from your previous post you said you think "they" are wrong:

So I asked to see if you still have the same idea that "they" are wrong...
Or did you change your idea to think that KHz are the NMR frequencies for gold and silver?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Gold here is 34.98hz Silver 107 is 81.0 and 109 is 94.17hz. Yes these frequencies are good. I still use ring theory to verify.
I think they are using harmonics of these frequencies. The differences between 8.7k and 8.1k may be the difference in location.

If I use the next step up for gold 69.96hz is very close to what I measure using ring theory 70.06hz. So for gold here my body responds the best on the first harmonic for gold.

nelson
12-21-2011, 03:00 PM
Hi Geo.
This is another device i will like to try, so if you can share us a good and woking schematic, will be amazing.
Did your got some theasures with this device?
Regards
Nelson



At my new dowsing rod i use 34Hz for Au, 60... 62 Hz for Al and 4.5 hz for Cu.
I will try to give photos and schematic at a new thread.
:)

nelson
12-21-2011, 03:04 PM
Hi WM6
Can you post your Livewire file for this shematic?
Also, does it work for you?
Are the generator stable?
Thanks a lot and best regards my friend
Nelson

Here complete schematic with PCB (PCB 3.5x3.5", Corrections: for D1 use 1N4148 and for C1 22pF) :

Geo
12-21-2011, 04:29 PM
Geo,

Regarding the PLL circuit, their is one that has the input going to one hand and the other input going to the other hand(with brass dowsing rods in each hand). I don't know if that is the circuit you built with no results but the one I describe here works on the basis of detecting changes in the brains waves in response to locating said target-not using the 567 to detect any VLF waves just so you know.

I remember buying that PLL schematic off some site that sells plans and I recognized how it worked once I thought about it. In that case it could possibly work (detecting the change in brain waves-alpha versus beta,etc.).

All speculation though,

Randy Seden

God's Country,California


Hi Seden.

I tried to find the schematic but i was not lucky:frown:.
As i remember there was a brass wire from one hand to the other. At the middle of the wire we take the signal. I tried it for long time without results. If some time i will be more lucky and find the schematic i"ll attach it here. I had find the schematic at Geotech

Regards

Geo
12-21-2011, 05:09 PM
Geo,

Regarding the PLL circuit, their is one that has the input going to one hand and the other input going to the other hand(with brass dowsing rods in each hand). I don't know if that is the circuit you built with no results but the one I describe here works on the basis of detecting changes in the brains waves in response to locating said target-not using the 567 to detect any VLF waves just so you know.

I remember buying that PLL schematic off some site that sells plans and I recognized how it worked once I thought about it. In that case it could possibly work (detecting the change in brain waves-alpha versus beta,etc.).

All speculation though,


Randy Seden

God's Country,California



I found it at Geotech.
Enjoy:)
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=41314&postcount=1 (http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=41314&postcount=1)

WM6
12-21-2011, 05:11 PM
Hi WM6
Can you post your Livewire file for this shematic?
Also, does it work for you?
Are the generator stable?
Thanks a lot and best regards my friend
Nelson

Hi Nelson

Posting on Livewire will be of little use if you cannot read .CWZ format which I have in origin.
This was reason that I conwert all in .JPG format to make it available to all.

Circuit works as electronic dowsing rod without problem and as good as any other expensive electronic dowsing rod. I did not test it in field because I am not a dowser and cannot find nothing with dowsing rods ever. If you are born dowser maybe it can work for you, otherwise left it in peace and make something like GG AL718 which is at least theorethical step in LRL direction.

Generator shematic is jack's idea not my, I only add antenna solution. I think it can work stable enough for this purposses.

Geo
12-21-2011, 05:16 PM
Hi Geo.
This is another device i will like to try, so if you can share us a good and woking schematic, will be amazing.
Did your got some theasures with this device?
Regards
Nelson

Hi.
I think to put here the full project.
Maybe next week.
But I have a dilemma, to put this project or to put the schematic of Cryfton???
Next week I will know. It will be a gift for the new year.

Regards:)

WM6
12-21-2011, 11:06 PM
Hi.
I think to put here the full project.
Maybe next week.
But I have a dilemma, to put this project or to put the schematic of Cryfton???
Next week I will know. It will be a gift for the new year.

Regards:)

Bravo Geo!
Right decision.
Why not both?

J_Player
12-22-2011, 02:42 AM
Hi.
I think to put here the full project.
Maybe next week.
But I have a dilemma, to put this project or to put the schematic of Cryfton???
Next week I will know. It will be a gift for the new year.

Regards:)Hi Geo,
I think the full schematic is already shown in the Geotech forum.
You can see it here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=41314&#post41314

Scroll up and down the page to see the schematic and photos of the construction.
Also I am wondering why Geotech keeps dowsing schematics in the Geotech forum when they want all dowsing and LRL to be in this forum?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

J_Player
12-22-2011, 02:47 AM
Gold here is 34.98hz Silver 107 is 81.0 and 109 is 94.17hz. Yes these frequencies are good. I still use ring theory to verify.
I think they are using harmonics of these frequencies. The differences between 8.7k and 8.1k may be the difference in location.

If I use the next step up for gold 69.96hz is very close to what I measure using ring theory 70.06hz. So for gold here my body responds the best on the first harmonic for gold.Hi Tim,
I believe you are correct.
The field values I have are only averages for the area.
They do not take into account the large variations that can be seen within any general location.
If you actually took magnetometer measurements, then you will be able to calculate the correct NMR frequency.
I recently found some more NMR information that seems very interesting, which I will post in the MFD frequency thread.
There is a lot to know, and some may help treasure hunters if they are able to use some little known facts.

Best wishes, :)
J_P

Geo
12-22-2011, 06:14 AM
Bravo Geo!
Right decision.
Why not both?
Because it is a good idea to let one for the 2013:lol:
Or not...:rolleyes:

We will see. But i would want and Max and Fred here so all together to analyze the schematic....... :cool:

Geo
12-22-2011, 06:17 AM
Hi Geo,
I think the full schematic is already shown in the Geotech forum.
You can see it here: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=41314&#post41314

Scroll up and down the page to see the schematic and photos of the construction.
Also I am wondering why Geotech keeps dowsing schematics in the Geotech forum when they want all dowsing and LRL to be in this forum?


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Hi J_P.
I don't speak for this schematic.
This schematic is at Tech forum, this is the reason that there is not here

Regards

Morgan
12-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Hi.
I think to put here the full project.
Maybe next week.
But I have a dilemma, to put this project or to put the schematic of Cryfton???
Next week I will know. It will be a gift for the new year.

Regards:)

Maybe i can give to this forum the DC2008,not schematic but all photos from both sides of PCB. That is becouse it needs repairment(one battery wire is broken from inside) and is already out of waranty.

J_Player
12-22-2011, 08:25 PM
Maybe i can give to this forum the DC2008,not schematic but all photos from both sides of PCB. That is becouse it needs repairment(one battery wire is broken from inside) and is already out of waranty.Hi Morgan,
It will be good to post your photos of DC2008.
There is no problem because you are the copyright owner of all photos that you make from your own camera.
Maybe it will be good to start a new thread with the title DC2008 so people will be able to find it when they look for DC2008 information.


Thank you for your help
Best wishes, :)
J_P

Fred
12-23-2011, 10:58 PM
Because it is a good idea to let one for the 2013:lol:
Or not...:rolleyes:

We will see. But i would want and Max and Fred here so all together to analyze the schematic....... :cool:

Hi !
I am back.... I could not read all new posts, but if there is something new in the LRL world, please let me know (end of sarcasm)

Best regards to all, and don´t lose your sense of humour, all those threads looks so serious :razz:

mrmr16
03-25-2013, 11:43 AM
Hi WM6

i saw your schematic in 18 post .

do you updated this schematic .if you did it , please put here ?

what frequency of this circuit ?

best regards

mc_307
10-25-2014, 10:00 AM
Here complete schematic with PCB (PCB 3.5x3.5", Corrections: for D1 use 1N4148 and for C1 22pF) :

hi friends,
I did this circuit. but somehow I can not make the adjustment. best operating frequency is how many?
Produces up to 500-odd kHz frequency. but which one is best?
and how to use?

I'm sorry I do not know English, I use google translate.

mc_307
10-25-2014, 10:10 AM
I also use cd4093 integrated and running

WM6
10-27-2014, 12:18 AM
Hi WM6

i saw your schematic in 18 post .

do you updated this schematic .if you did it , please put here ?

what frequency of this circuit ?

best regards

No need to update, cause classical wooden dowsing rod works the same way.

king40
10-27-2014, 08:38 AM
Here complete schematic with PCB (PCB 3.5x3.5", Corrections: for D1 use 1N4148 and for C1 22pF) :

hi dear wm6
what is your means of this schematic
a receiver for L-rowds ?

WM6
10-27-2014, 12:48 PM
hi dear wm6
what is your means of this schematic
a receiver for L-rowds ?

This is electronic swivel L-rod toy to play around.

To find something with such dowsing devices, you need to be born dowser.

So all is up to you, no matter what dowsing device you use.

king40
10-27-2014, 04:05 PM
This is electronic swivel L-rod toy to play around.

To find something with such dowsing devices, you need to be born dowser.

So all is up to you, no matter what dowsing device you use.

so what is your comment about mfd ?

WM6
10-28-2014, 04:22 PM
MFD's are pure blind alley in remote detecting.

Mike(Mont)
10-29-2014, 02:18 PM
What WM6 is saying is he can't use an L-rod. Anything past that is pure speculation from a biased mind. I know how it works--people want to believe it works but when they don't get instant results they convince themselves that it is the device and not the operator where the source of the problem lies.

Mike(Mont)
10-29-2014, 02:55 PM
I have mentioned this before. I spent years learning an L-rod. Actually gave up until I found out about the frequency generators. Of course they are not perfect and neither is the operator. I've been skunked several times. Being in a hurry is a fatal flaw. Being overconfident is another.

I watched a TV show where a Buddhist monk spent fifteen years throwing a sewing needle at a piece of glass until he throw it just right with enough force to break the glass. Well, learning L-rods was not much easier for me.

osnibueno
05-13-2015, 06:12 PM
hi jack

I think it is better for you to buy one completed device, like this from Morgan:

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=140676&postcount=7

It is cheap in build with soul, which is by dowsing devices most important, namely, that it was build with soul and positive intention, not like mineoros and other scam devices which was build mechanically and with negative fraud intentions.
Mr. Tomada, seeing feedback about the land frequency system has funfamento, I did detector model with cd4093, to test, and I was on the ground next to my house, (photo attached) and as my father was in the military, telegrapher of the army, he had that were in field test car battery (via wireless telegraph earth), and with a maniulador, managed to send and listen to 1km away, and here testing al side of the house, with the detector cd4093 I noticed that I took on the speaker to tune the radio am, clearly, transmission of the same, and everywhere he had buried some can, caught the radio, so I deduce that as the material is already Ha times and buried with a formed magnetic field, sending frequency signal via land, and having a tuner, it is possible check which has metal buried, I am again riding the cd4093 to test.
Dear socket, vc already should have done this experiment, if you please tell me Suas experiences. and what scheme suggests to capture the frequency. okay
Hugs - att Osnihttp://minhateca.com.br/castropox/antena%20radio.jpg

Qiaozhi
05-13-2015, 10:33 PM
This is one of the modes used by pipe and cable locators.
"RADIO mode detects re-radiated ‘Radio’ type signals that are often present on metal pipes and cables."

http://www.cslocators.com/products/product.php?id=303&category=2&title=NEW%20Digital%20Cable%20Avoidance%20Eqpt

osnibueno
05-14-2015, 01:08 AM
Sr. Qiaozi, vendo o feedback sobre o sistema de freqüência terreno tem funfamento, eu modelo de detector com cd4093, para testar, e eu estava no chão ao lado de minha casa, (foto em anexo) e, como meu pai era militar, telegrafista de o exército, ele teve que estavam no campo da bateria do carro de teste (via wireless telegraph terra), e com um maniulador, conseguiu enviar e ouvir um quilômetro de distância, e aqui testando al lado da casa, com o detector cd4093 eu notei que eu assumiu o alto-falante para sintonizar o rádio AM, claramente, a transmissão da mesma, e em todos os lugares que ele havia enterrado algum pode, pegou o rádio, por isso deduzo que como o material já está vezes ha e enterrado com um campo magnético formado, frequência de envio sinal de via terrestre, e ter um sintonizador, é possÃ*vel verificar que tem de metal enterrada, eu estou novamente montando a cd4093 para testar.
Caro socket, vc já deve ter feito esta experiência, se você por favor me diga experiências SUAS. eo que sugere esquema para capturar a freqüência. ok
Hugs - att Osni http://minhateca.com.br/castropox/antena%20radio.jpg

Qiaozhi
05-14-2015, 09:10 PM
Sr. Qiaozi, vendo o feedback sobre o sistema de freqüência terreno tem funfamento, eu modelo de detector com cd4093, para testar, e eu estava no chão ao lado de minha casa, (foto em anexo) e, como meu pai era militar, telegrafista de o exército, ele teve que estavam no campo da bateria do carro de teste (via wireless telegraph terra), e com um maniulador, conseguiu enviar e ouvir um quilômetro de distância, e aqui testando al lado da casa, com o detector cd4093 eu notei que eu assumiu o alto-falante para sintonizar o rádio AM, claramente, a transmissão da mesma, e em todos os lugares que ele havia enterrado algum pode, pegou o rádio, por isso deduzo que como o material já está vezes ha e enterrado com um campo magnético formado, frequência de envio sinal de via terrestre, e ter um sintonizador, é possÃ*vel verificar que tem de metal enterrada, eu estou novamente montando a cd4093 para testar.
Caro socket, vc já deve ter feito esta experiência, se você por favor me diga experiências SUAS. eo que sugere esquema para capturar a freqüência. ok
Hugs - att Osni http://minhateca.com.br/castropox/antena%20radio.jpg
Please read the forum rules -> http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10526
and make your posts in English.

osnibueno
05-15-2015, 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by osnibueno View Post
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Dear taken, u MUST have've tried this, if fast you please tell me YOUR experiences. And What It suggests Scheme To capture a frequency. okay
Hugs - att Osni http://minhateca.com.br/castropox/antena%20radio.jpg

pigeon
03-02-2016, 10:13 PM
HI ALL

ANYONE HAVE THE PCB FOR THIS PROJET


THANK YOU