Sell LRL

[goldfinder]

Hi Mr. Q,
I have a zahori type LRL I built and experimented with and would like to sell it for someone else to play around with. Basically selling for less than parts ($25+shipping). Can we sell stuff on this forum as there seems to be no place to sell things?
Goldfinder

[J_Player]

Hi Mr. Q,
I have a zahori type LRL I built and experimented with and would like to sell it for someone else to play around with. Basically selling for less than parts ($25+shipping). Can we sell stuff on this forum as there seems to be no place to sell things?
GoldfinderHi goldfinder,
This is very cool.
There are a number of forum members asking for help to build circuits while they seem to have no clues of what components to use or how to build circuits.
This is exactly what they want -- a project that an LRL experimenter built and tested to insure that the internal parts are correctly connected.

You could actually run a small business to produce completed projects for people who are incapable of building their own.
Rather than being an LRL manufacturer, you can simply be a builder of circuits that people want someone to build for them.
This would certainly fill a void in the market for ready-built circuits that range from frequency generators to static field detectors and ion sensors.
Who knows? ... this could be a way to solve the crisis for some people who are in extreme urgent need of circuits that can send out VLF signals, and receive them.

I hope you will find a place in this forum to sell your Zahori, and perhaps more diverse circuits that forum visitors have urgent needs to acquire. http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/good.gif

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

So, Qiaozhi must add a Buy-sell forum for lrl :):)

[J_Player]

So, Qiaozhi must add a Buy-sell forum for lrl :):)Maybe Mr. goldmaniac from the Greek forum wants to sell some of his LRL kits in Buy-sell forum?

[Morgan]

Hi Mr. Q,
I have a zahori type LRL I built and experimented with and would like to sell it for someone else to play around with. Basically selling for less than parts ($25+shipping). Can we sell stuff on this forum as there seems to be no place to sell things?
Goldfinder

this is good ideia,i also have some LRL´s for sale,very cheap,example the Karl´s MFD with Rods,was my first LRL project...

[Morgan]

Hi Mr. Q,
I have a zahori type LRL I built and experimented with and would like to sell it for someone else to play around with. Basically selling for less than parts ($25+shipping). Can we sell stuff on this forum as there seems to be no place to sell things?
Goldfinder

and ,what is not working for you,maybe others can put to work.

[g-sani]

Selling something is just a right of an owner and nothing else.
Anybody can sell anything he likes as long as he doesn't force anybody to do so.
Yes, I think we need a "Buy & sell" place in this forum as well.
I regularly sell my LRLs or detectors in order to buy something new or something different.
Is this a bad thing to do? No it isn't.
This is what people doing everyday all over the world.
Selling and buying.

Regards
g-sani

[Geo]

Maybe Mr. goldmaniac from the Greek forum wants to sell some of his LRL kits in Buy-sell forum?


Hahaha... yes.
It is time to sell my Andy Flind magnetic field detector at low price:lol:, but I am afraid, lest Cryfton ask from me the copyright. :lol::lol::lol:

[Geo]

and ,what is not working for you,maybe others can put to work.

or...can and other people to see that it do not work. If the price is not high then no problem

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Mr. Q,
I have a zahori type LRL I built and experimented with and would like to sell it for someone else to play around with. Basically selling for less than parts ($25+shipping). Can we sell stuff on this forum as there seems to be no place to sell things?
Goldfinder
OK - go for it!
There is now a Buy-Sell-Trade forum in the Misc section.

[Morgan]

OK - go for it!
There is now a Buy-Sell-Trade forum in the Misc section.

not working yet...

[Morgan]

or...can and other people to see that it do not work. If the price is not high then no problem

yes,the price for this circuits and projects must be cheap,we are not LRL scams or opurtunists,but the fact that some LRL cant work for you, other can buy and with new ideias and modifications there is great possibility to work as LRL.

[goldfinder]

OK - go for it!
There is now a Buy-Sell-Trade forum in the Misc section.

It seems I am not alone in letting others experiment with my old circuits I got around gathering dust. Maybe they can even make them work better - ha.

Goldfinder

[Morgan]

yes,the price for this circuits and projects must be cheap,we are not LRL scams or opurtunists,but the fact that some LRL cant work for you, other can buy and with new ideias and modifications there is great possibility to work as LRL.

Here some more LRL´s i have for sale :


ICONOS-750E(very used,damage box,but in working condition)belong to a friend

DCH85-500E also belong to a friend

Alonso´s Passive Receiver PDK-1.5 version superior to the PDK-1, enough power to find medium and big targets. sealed circuits, - 250E

Karls MFD and a pair of Rods -50E

[Geo]

Here some more LRL´s i have for sale :


ICONOS-750E(very used,damage box,but in working condition)belong to a friend

DCH85-500E also belong to a friend

Alonso´s Passive Receiver PDK-1.5 version superior to the PDK-1, enough power to find medium and big targets. sealed circuits, - 250E

Karls MFD and a pair of Rods -50E


Hi Morgan.
What id the differences at your new version of PDK(1.5)??


Regards:)

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
What id the differences at your new version of PDK(1.5)??


Regards:)

Hi Geo


Diference in price and a few extra things in the circuit.But is SEALED.

I have one PDK-1 for sale,its 100E

Very cheap prices for WORKING REAL LRL´s

Question -WHY I SELL ?

ANSWER- BECOUSE I DONT NEED THEM,I HAVE MUCH BETTER.


I feel sorry for the people who buy OKM, MINEORO,RANGERTELL etc, they spend a lot of money with C.R:A.P , now is time to change.

BTW: also i have the so called MINI ZAHORI, 75E,this one who can catch radio band .


regards

[MIJ]

Hi Geo


Diference in price and a few extra things in the circuit.But is SEALED.

I have one PDK-1 for sale,its 100E

Very cheap prices for WORKING REAL LRL´s

Question -WHY I SELL ?

ANSWER- BECOUSE I DONT NEED THEM,I HAVE MUCH BETTER.


I feel sorry for the people who buy OKM, MINEORO,RANGERTELL etc, they spend a lot of money with C.R:A.P , now is time to change.

BTW: also i have the so called MINI ZAHORI, 75E,this one who can catch radio band .


regards

Hi Morgan,

Can you put some pictures up of the different detectors you have for sale also any info on detecting range & target size / working or not working etc?

I think they should go into the “Buy-Sell-Trade” section though.

Thanks :)

[hung]

I feel sorry for the people who buy OKM, MINEORO,RANGERTELL etc, they spend a lot of money with C.R:A.P , now is time to change.


Don't be sad.
If I get some spare time for vacations in Europe this year, I will drop by your place and personally teach you how to use the Mineoros. I would not take any device of mine tough. I would use your own DC2008 to find gold for you.
For the Rangertell, as far as I know you don't own one so the learning curve is steeper. But you could have some lessons from Art next time you go to USA if you wish.

Regarding the OKMs, a friend of mine who owns one and who is a gold dealer now, tells me that it's easier to use than programming a toaster.
But I can show you also how it works finding gold if you ever get one later on.
In fact we are getting a Bionic X4 this month and probably a roverC II also if the jeohunter does not prove to be professional enough for underground imagings.

Is it also true that ALL portuguese appreciates bacalhau? You included?

[WM6]

I have one PDK-1 for sale,its 100E

Very cheap prices for WORKING REAL LRL´s




Fair price, Morgan, even in case that it is not working.

[WM6]

IfI get some spare timefor vacations in Europe this year,

I would use your own DC2008 to find gold for you.



If ... a big blowing IF ..... mean no way that you get some spare time ..... or ...

we will see old cheap mineoro trick ... you hide gold in secret ... and on other day you discover the same gold with Morgan's DC2008.

I will be there to prevent those cheap scamming trick - I hide my gold in secret and invite you to find it with any of the mineoro boxes.

[J_Player]

If ... a big blowing IF ..... mean no way that you get some spare time ..... or ...

we will see old cheap mineoro trick ... you hide gold in secret ... and on other day you discover the same gold with Morgan's DC2008.

I will be there to prevent those cheap scamming trick - I hide my gold in secret and invite you to find it with any of the mineoro boxes.Hmmmm.... Yes..
The Mineoro FG models like the FG78, FG79, FG80 and FG90 are claimed to find fresh gold.
This means the factory advertises they will locate gold that is freshly buried, so no problem if it is buried for only one day.


http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15344&d=1305427631

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15247&d=1304774054

You can verify there are no fake magician tricks like rubbing to make a static charge or putting plastic markers on the ground, or dropping jewelry where the demonstrator wants the detector to beep.


Best wishes, :)
J_P

[detectoman]

hahahahaha in english
juark juark in griego
jiar jiar en indigena
juas juas en chilango
kakakaka chat stile
jajajaja in mexican
hung ever mineoro promotor
jijijiji

[detectoman]

brodhy morgan has try any mineoro for years, no good, only a expensive sound toy´s
jiar jiar

[Morgan]

Don't be sad.
If I get some spare time for vacations in Europe this year, I will drop by your place and personally teach you how to use the Mineoros. I would not take any device of mine tough. I would use your own DC2008 to find gold for you.
For the Rangertell, as far as I know you don't own one so the learning curve is steeper. But you could have some lessons from Art next time you go to USA if you wish.

Regarding the OKMs, a friend of mine who owns one and who is a gold dealer now, tells me that it's easier to use than programming a toaster.
But I can show you also how it works finding gold if you ever get one later on.
In fact we are getting a Bionic X4 this month and probably a roverC II also if the jeohunter does not prove to be professional enough for underground imagings.

Is it also true that ALL portuguese appreciates bacalhau? You included?



Hung,if you want to visit my country,you wellcome.

I think you cant find nothing here with MINEORO. Anyway ,why i need MINEORO? I have PDK :D

HERE most recent report from field test in Greece,by our friend Takslambos :




hi again. today i buy one garrett metal detector pinpointer i went again to the place with the hunting bulets and the aluminioum pieces i found more and more many small pieces of difrent metal mostly iron.finaly i found one more SILVER COIN...........i used again the pdk (after i took the silver coin)NO signal at all.CONCLUTION:THE PDK LOCATE FROM THE FIRST DAY THE SILVER COIN AND IS WORKING PERFECT.it was dificalt for me to locate the coin with the minelab 11"coil with all this small metal thinks in the area.......THANKS AGAIN MY FRIEND.....

[Morgan]

Don't be sad.
If I get some spare time for vacations in Europe this year, I will drop by your place and personally teach you how to use the Mineoros. I would not take any device of mine tough. I would use your own DC2008 to find gold for you.
For the Rangertell, as far as I know you don't own one so the learning curve is steeper. But you could have some lessons from Art next time you go to USA if you wish.

Regarding the OKMs, a friend of mine who owns one and who is a gold dealer now, tells me that it's easier to use than programming a toaster.
But I can show you also how it works finding gold if you ever get one later on.
In fact we are getting a Bionic X4 this month and probably a roverC II also if the jeohunter does not prove to be professional enough for underground imagings.

Is it also true that ALL portuguese appreciates bacalhau? You included?

I also made a lot of recent finds with my personal PDK-2 and 3,but most objects and coins are SILVER.

one thing is interesting,not all the objects send the signals more strong to North,but to West or East, and Takslambos confirm this in the search for treasure with his PDK-2.

I would like to show here many films with me locating targets,and teaching how to locate objects, or how to follow direction of one far away signal when is big object,need EXPERIENCE.

[hung]

Morgan,
The purpose of my possible trip to your place would be to prove that you are wrong about the DC2008... you are wrong about the rangertell and you are wrong about the OKM LRL.

Talking about comercial LRLs, the Bionic 01 ferinstance, is currently many levels up compared to the original Alonso's PD and your own device whatever you turned it into. Given the distance and the percentage rate gold was found by a friend, the owner of one unit, it's not fair making any comparisons.

I bet, better yet... I know your DC2008 is superior in range than your PD. In a post you claim that your device requires critical knob calibration for sensitivity detection. I watched your old DC2008 video detecting your gold sample and you did not have this kind of care and concern with the DC's knob. You just did a quick set and despite of that it beeped to your sample. In fact with the right adjustment, it SHOULD pick your sample at many meters away.

And... tackslambos used to be around here whining about getting a device that could detect his mythical gold treasure. It seems he's got some devices including a FG79 for this purpose and as far as I know and according to your reports, he's been busy in the field with your PDK prospecting for small all-metal objects. Maybe he gave up his mythical treasure quest or he simply couldn't find it? It must be a special treasure as no device seems to find it yet.

Once more, I don't have any interest to support Mineoro. My interest is concerned to refute false and unfair claims by people who owns these devices, still could not find their dream treasures and keep claiming the devices don't work. This is so silly as I know this is not true. They might not be perfect devices as there is no perfect device but they work as it should. To find gold.
If someday you get a bionic as we here are about to get and... we keep finding gold but you don't and start bashing the device, I would be here ready to contradict you as well.
But this is your problem and I certainly would not die worrying about it.

Again, I wish someday you find your 'dream treasure' be this either with your PD, DC, PDK, zahori, L rod or wishstick. You will learn in the end that these are just tools. Finding treasure requires A LOT more, being persistence, expertise, determination and MUCH sweat among them.

[WM6]

The purpose of my possible trip to your place would be to prove that you are wrong about the DC2008... you are wrong about the rangertell and you are wrong about the OKM LRL.



Dear mister Fraud Scam,

your dirty business is out.

Kilometres more of your deceptive blabbering will not help anymore.

[g-sani]

Morgan,
.................................................. ...............
.................................................. ...............

...................Again, I wish someday you find your 'dream treasure' be this either with your PD, DC, PDK, zahori, L rod or wishstick. You will learn in the end that these are just tools. Finding treasure requires A LOT more, being persistence, expertise, determination and MUCH sweat among them.

Yes, this I also believe is what most people don't understand.
Everybody is in the search of an LRL that does the job and they think that they will be rich the same time they put their hands on it.
But truth is different, there are so many other factors that have to be in the right path and at the same time to discover a treasure.
This is to my opinion one of the stages that somebody must go through before he could be successfull on Treasure hunting.:D

Regards
g-sani

[WM6]

This is to my opinion one of the stages that somebody must go through before he could be successfull on Treasure hunting.:D



Agree, at least you need to be skilled in metal detecting, otherwise you cannot find nothing.

[Fred]

Agree, at least you need to be skilled in metal detecting, otherwise you cannot find nothing.
The problem is that the only skilled persons in the world are LRL sellers and their sponsor: Hung and mineoro team.

[J_Player]

The problem is that the only skilled persons in the world are LRL sellers and their sponsor: Hung and mineoro team.Michael believed the hung propaganda, then he bought a Mineoro FG80. You can send him a PM to see how well it worked for him.
Carl-NC bought a Mineoro FG-80. You can send him a PM to see how well it worked for him.
Neronc bought a Mineoro FG-80. You can send him a PM to see how well it worked for him.

Wait... you don't need to send any PMs....
They already made reports to tell how well Mineoro worked for them, as well as many other people who used Mineoro... http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/good.gif

michael: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47738#post47738
Carl-NC: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47488#post47488
neronc: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=48814#post48814
mosha: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45337#post45337
vconic: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46044#post46044
Alexismex: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=41017#post41017
resamery: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=48025#post48025
neronc: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=50315#post50315
Seeker: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=50318#post50318
Morris_jo: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53459#post53459
Geo: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=125589#post125589
hawk17966: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46622#post46622
Alexismex: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47559#post47559
vcrb: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47501#post47501
connie: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=96087#post96087
Morgan: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=127935#post127935
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128523#post128523
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128080#post128080
bugwhiskers: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=60207#post60207
gibon: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128069#post128069
Agraz: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128685#post128685
hawk17966: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=46547#post46547
michael: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=47738#post47738


Best wishes, :)
J_P

[g-sani]

The problem is that the only skilled persons in the world are LRL sellers and their sponsor: Hung and mineoro team.

Even in soccer some of the best players are todays best coaches.
So we better learn to live whith it. :D

[WM6]

Even in soccer some of the best players are todays best coaches.
So we better learn to live whith it.

:D

This is not valid for scam players as hung and mineoro team.

[Fred]

Even in soccer some of the best players are todays best coaches.
So we better learn to live whith it. :D

And it may be true but with real players, not imaginary ones...

[J_Player]

And it may be true but with real players, not imaginary ones...Hmmm....
Is it true with real signal lines or imaginary signal lines? http://www.geotech1.com/forums/images/smilies/remember.gif


Best wishes, :)
J_P

[BENZINAS]

Hi Geo


Diference in price and a few extra things in the circuit.But is SEALED.

I have one PDK-1 for sale,its 100E

Very cheap prices for WORKING REAL LRL´s

Question -WHY I SELL ?

ANSWER- BECOUSE I DONT NEED THEM,I HAVE MUCH BETTER.


I feel sorry for the people who buy OKM, MINEORO,RANGERTELL etc, they spend a lot of money with C.R:A.P , now is time to change.

BTW: also i have the so called MINI ZAHORI, 75E,this one who can catch radio band .


regards
Hi , i'm a new member and i would like to ask you about the PDK-1 in 100 euro , i'm interesting to buy it if you still have it but i can pay only with paypal !

[Morgan]

Hi , i'm a new member and i would like to ask you about the PDK-1 in 100 euro , i'm interesting to buy it if you still have it but i can pay only with paypal !

Sorry, already sold...

[BENZINAS]

Sorry, already sold...
Goodmorning my friend , i would like to ask you is there a chance to make a new one for sell or if you have any other lrl working like pdk and detecting only gold for sell , thank you for your time !

[Morgan]

Goodmorning my friend , i would like to ask you is there a chance to make a new one for sell or if you have any other lrl working like pdk and detecting only gold for sell , thank you for your time !

This is the PDK-1.5

And the way is working,the same like the PDK-2 ,TX/RX


18012

18013

18014

[Morgan]

Hi , i'm a new member and i would like to ask you about the PDK-1 in 100 euro , i'm interesting to buy it if you still have it but i can pay only with paypal !

This is a simple LRL,turn ON,the front knob is to use in the Max. Sens. allways and the Top knob behind the search coil is to use in the limit right before the buzzer start bippers.
There is one Yellow LED who open when batteries are low.

Is very small LRL,can put in my pocket.

[Morgan]

This is a simple LRL,turn ON,the front knob is to use in the Max. Sens. allways and the Top knob behind the search coil is to use in the limit right before the buzzer start bippers.
There is one Yellow LED who open when batteries are low.

Is very small LRL,can put in my pocket.



Hello

Here some explanations about PDK and the VHF electromagnetic waves:



hello morgan

i need your advice about my problem
i m order the pdk 2 from 5 july to paulo and he told me it finished that about 2 weeks later.
two weeks later he told me he cant find free time. at the last week he told me make the vhf transmitter and its ok.im contact with him today he told me that he cant find free time to build my pdk2.
i dont know what i can do with that situation.
im awful i dont know maybe yes.
is there anyone can give me the pdk2 in real time?

friendly regards
jimmys


My honest answer is :

Hello

I was informed that the VHF ANALOG TV transmittions finish in Greece three weeks ago. Maybe you not know yet but the PDK-2 is working using VHF electromagnetic waves that activate the underground metals,this way is possible to locate the objects very far,one coin 10 meters,one treasure 80 meters.The PDK-2 is RECEIVER.
Without VHF waves the PDK only give sparzed signals in the area of buried objects and it will be extremly dificult to PINPOINT them.
Actualy I made a few tests with small portatil VHF trasmitter but the results not satisfy me,it realy need the strong power of the old local VHF TV transmitter working in 175 to 220 MHz. The VHF ANALOG transmittions stop in my country at 24/April/2012.
The modern DIGITAL UHF transmitters working at 842 MHz not good.
Now i´m working on modifications in PDK-2 , i think is possible to make it much more powerful in the way to locate very easy the Gold/Silver without the need of VHF or RF waves from transmitters.

Its your choice to buy one normal PDK-2 or to waith for a better one...

Regards


18039

18040


here the schematic of one small transmitter ,unfortunatly is not powerfull enough...

[Sneshko]

Dear friends!
Link for complete Low power VHF Video Transmitter:

http://electronics-diy.com/electronic_schematic.php?id=889

Ragards!
Sneshko

[Morgan]

Dear friends!
Link for complete Low power VHF Video Transmitter:

http://electronics-diy.com/electronic_schematic.php?id=889

Ragards!
Sneshko

yes,that is the one i made...

[Sood]

yes,that is the one i made...

Hello!
PDR in the future will work without FM-transmitter?

[Barbarossa]

mr morgan is posiple to work the pdk 2 withaout this vhf transmiters?

[Morgan]

Hello!
PDR in the future will work without FM-transmitter?

Hello

The PDK-2 need the VHF electromagnetic waves to locate the targets at great distances,however it still locate the targets without the VHF transmitter,losing 50% of the power.
The VHF transmittions stop in my country at 24/April/2012 ,and i still finding objects and can make LRL tests in my field test,i note 50% reduction of power compare with other results before 24 April.

There is one person in Ukrain using PDK-2,name Iuri,he lives 150 Km from Kiev,this weekend he go to dig two targets located last week with his PDK,the targets are very deep in a well searched place ,and he already experienced more objects found.
I will ask him permition to give your contact to him if you interested,it will be interesting you try your PDK in this place before he dig the targets,and it will be nice to make a film too.

[Morgan]

Hello!
PDR in the future will work without FM-transmitter?

Actualy i´m working in a new PDK project that no need any kind of transmitters.

[Sood]

Hello

The PDK-2 need the VHF electromagnetic waves to locate the targets at great distances,however it still locate the targets without the VHF transmitter,losing 50% of the power.
The VHF transmittions stop in my country at 24/April/2012 ,and i still finding objects and can make LRL tests in my field test,i note 50% reduction of power compare with other results before 24 April.

There is one person in Ukrain using PDK-2,name Iuri,he lives 150 Km from Kiev,this weekend he go to dig two targets located last week with his PDK,the targets are very deep in a well searched place ,and he already experienced more objects found.
I will ask him permition to give your contact to him if you interested,it will be interesting you try your PDK in this place before he dig the targets,and it will be nice to make a film too.

I live 30 km from Kiev and I will be useful to talk to Yuri. Buda grateful for contact details with Yuri.
Regards

[Sood]

Actualy i´m working in a new PDK project that no need any kind of transmitters.
We believe in your power to create a new PDK :)
Regards

[Morgan]

I live 30 km from Kiev and I will be useful to talk to Yuri. Buda grateful for contact details with Yuri.
Regards

Ok,i will inform you if Yuri agree with this TH´s meeting.

[Sood]

Ok,i will inform you if Yuri agree with this TH´s meeting.
All right. Thanks for the help! :)

[epitopios]

I was informed that the VHF ANALOG TV transmittions finish in Greece three weeks ago. Maybe you not know yet but the PDK-2 is working using VHF electromagnetic waves that activate the underground metals,this way is possible to locate the objects very far,one coin 10 meters,one treasure 80 meters.The PDK-2 is RECEIVER.
Without VHF waves the PDK only give sparzed signals in the area of buried objects and it will be extremly dificult to PINPOINT them.
Actualy I made a few tests with small portatil VHF trasmitter but the results not satisfy me,it realy need the strong power of the old local VHF TV transmitter working in 175 to 220 MHz. The VHF ANALOG transmittions stop in my country at 24/April/2012.
The modern DIGITAL UHF transmitters working at 842 MHz not good.
Now i´m working on modifications in PDK-2 , i think is possible to make it much more powerful in the way to locate very easy the Gold/Silver without the need of VHF or RF waves from transmitters.

to Morgan
propably you need something like this:
TV VHF LINEAR AMPLIFIER 10 W IN CLASS AB
http://www.electronicstudio.net/pdf/AMP-10VHF.pdf
from:http://www.electronicstudio.net/rf-amplifier.html
friendly , epitopios

[Morgan]

to Morgan
propably you need something like this:
TV VHF LINEAR AMPLIFIER 10 W IN CLASS AB
http://www.electronicstudio.net/pdf/AMP-10VHF.pdf
from:http://www.electronicstudio.net/rf-amplifier.html
friendly , epitopios

Thanks


but better if working with no VHF waves,anyway i think you are right.

[epitopios]

to Morgan
a TV Transmitter in VHF band somewhat between 50 – 210MHz.
http://tmnasik.blogspot.gr/2012/07/tv-transmitter-circuit.html

with: 1 watt C-class RF amplifier for 200 Mhz
http://www.newcircuits.com/circuit.php?id=rfr001

..or even better , TV RF Amplifiers at:
http://www.electronicstudio.net/rf-amplifier.html
have a look at RF AMPLIFIER 7 W UHF MITSUBISHI ASSEMBLED 220 MHz
TV AM transmitters 220 MHz Price: $ 38.00 !!!

and of course if you need an atenna for 200-220 Mhz
http://jplarc.ampr.org/calling/1978/apr/apr78.html

friendly , epitopios

[Morgan]

to Morgan
a TV Transmitter in VHF band somewhat between 50 – 210MHz.
http://tmnasik.blogspot.gr/2012/07/tv-transmitter-circuit.html

with: 1 watt C-class RF amplifier for 200 Mhz
http://www.newcircuits.com/circuit.php?id=rfr001

..or even better , TV RF Amplifiers at:
http://www.electronicstudio.net/rf-amplifier.html
have a look at RF AMPLIFIER 7 W UHF MITSUBISHI ASSEMBLED 220 MHz
TV AM transmitters 220 MHz Price: $ 38.00 !!!

and of course if you need an atenna for 200-220 Mhz
http://jplarc.ampr.org/calling/1978/apr/apr78.html

friendly , epitopios





Thanks

but i think only the BIG VHF transmitters from local TV can produce the efect that we want for LRL PDK and others,i already try two VHF same like you present here,but no diference in LRL detection distance.
There is also the possibility that the local VHF transmitters make the desired efect only after a few months or years ofcontinous working,waves process,maybe is not imediatly...
I stay one VHF transmitter working with a 12V car battery,for one week,but no results...
I think this VHF waves question is not for our generation,is complicated thing.

Regards

[WM6]

There is also the possibility that the local VHF transmitters make the desired efect only after a few months or years of continous working,waves process,maybe is not imediatly...



Hi Morgan

It is distance of transmitter that take effect (so called transmitted wave polarisation) and not time of TX working. In this case also terrain configuration is of a significant impact.

You can reach this effect in two way: by changing distance (if transmitter is in range of 0.5W of transmitting power) or by changing antenna polarisation (eg antenna rotating) in case of very weak transmitter (in range of couple mW of transmitting power).

You can use sweeped TX frequency on relative weak transmitter also (100mW or so), to get similar effect.

[Geo]

Hi Morgan

It is distance of transmitter that take effect (so called transmitted wave polarisation) and not time of TX working. In this case also terrain configuration is of a significant impact.

You can reach this effect in two way: by changing distance (if transmitter is in range of 0.5W of transmitting power) or by changing antenna polarisation (eg antenna rotating) in case of very weak transmitter (in range of couple mW of transmitting power).

You can use sweeped TX frequency on relative weak transmitter also (100mW or so), to get similar effect.

Hi WM6.
I did it without results

:)

[J_Player]

Hi Morgan

It is distance of transmitter that take effect (so called transmitted wave polarisation) and not time of TX working. In this case also terrain configuration is of a significant impact.

You can reach this effect in two way: by changing distance (if transmitter is in range of 0.5W of transmitting power) or by changing antenna polarisation (eg antenna rotating) in case of very weak transmitter (in range of couple mW of transmitting power).

You can use sweeped TX frequency on relative weak transmitter also (100mW or so), to get similar effect.When you are walking on the ground to receive a signal from a distant VHF transmitter, the polarization will be determined by the ground plane.
However, there may be a solution to this problem.... have you considered using the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna? These antennas are immune to any ground-induced polarization.

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9547&stc=1&d=1251472890 http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9548&d=1251473676

See here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=96324&postcount=48


Best Wishes,
J_P

[epitopios]

Hi Morgan
I Have the Last TV national channel analog transmission (07 VHF ) in my area before they change (2013)
its at 7 channel with enough ΚW power for many years now
and also from this Mountain they have 2 Radio stations at 88- 92 FM
The whole reason is that nearby this mountain there is an old treasure from 2WW
I try to make this schematic to coordinate at 7 channel
I want your opinion , is it possible to achieve the effect we're looking for ?
have a look at the schematic

http://i.imgur.com/gMSVD.jpg

if it can work at 180 - 220 Mhz as a receiver ???
friendly , epitopios

[WM6]

.... have you considered using the pyramidal logarithmic quadro spiral antenna?

Best Wishes,
J_P

Yes, I even made some improvement in wires colour. I change wire supplier to Illuminati.

[J_Player]

Yes, I even made some improvement in wires colour. I change wire supplier to Illuminati.On a more serious note, for experimenters who are actually broadcasting VHF signals in their treasure hunting area, I have noticed many of them use a 1/4 wave whip antenna
(This is the kind that is a simple telescoping aerial).
This kind of antenna may not be the best to use when you are interested in broadcasting RF to simulate what you receive from a distant studio transmitter.
The simple aerial antenna will have vertical polarization if it is held upright.
But the signal is broadcast in omnidirectional strength in all directions, which means most of the signal is wasted by being sent some other direction than where you are treasure hunting. Also, what you say is true about distance. If your transmitter is within rock-throwing distance, then you will probably sending RF which behaves as near-field waves, rather than the waves that come from a distant studio transmitter.

There are several things an experimenter can do to more closely approximate the RF that comes from a transmitter.
Here are some things I would do if I wanted to simulate an analog TV VHF broadcast from a distant station:

1. First measure the signal strength of an existing analog VHF station.
You can use a meter, or if you don't have the proper equipment, you could use an old TV, and shorten the antenna until you see the signal is getting bad.
Then you will have a way to know what relative strength the signal is for an existing VHF broadcast that you want to imitate.
Later (after you build your new transmitter), you can check with your meter or with the old TV to see if the new signal is the same strength as the previous TV station was.
You can adjust the signal strength of your new transmitter by moving it at different distances from where you want to hunt for treasure, or you can adjust the gain of the power transistor by adjusting the resistors surrounding it.

2. Do not use a simple aerial antenna. Use a dipole.
A yagi antenna is an excellent choice.
You should make the dipole antenna set to the correct length for the frequency that you are transmitting.
There are many online calculators that can show you how to set up a yagi antenna for whatever frequency you are using.
The advantage of the yagi antenna or similar designs is it will focus the RF so most of it goes forward of the antenna.
A yagi antenna will send a strong signal in a 60 degree path to the front of the antenna, but will only lose a small amount of RF to the sides and back of the antenna.
The RF beam will be MUCH stronger, which will allow you to move the transmitter and antenna much farther away from the search area in order to get the desired signal strength.
The difference between a simple aerial and a yagi antenna is much the same as the difference between connecting a light bulb to a battery in the night, or using the same battery and light bulb in a flashlight that focuses the light into a beam.
An aerial will work like the simple light which makes a dim light in all directions, while the yagi antenna will send out a beam that is focused to a 60 degree angle.
Another good feature of yagi antennas is the polarization can easily be changed by rotating it so that instead of having the antenna "arms" at the sides, you can turn them to be in the up and down position, while the front of the antenna is still pointing toward the treasure hunting area. The idea is to move the transmitter as far away from the treasure searching area, and to still have the same signal strength as the old TV station sent. The distance is necessary move out of the near-field wave effects. With any luck, you may be able to simulate the signal that comes from a distant TV transmitter.

3. Connect a TV camera to the transmitter and connect the sound.
With no video camera connected to the transmitter, you will be sending only a carrier wave, with no TV picture or sound signals.
Why does this matter?
It matters because the TV picture and sound add a lot of new frequencies to be modulated in the carrier, which include everything from audio frequencies up to nearly the carrier frequency that your transmitter is set to. There is both AM and FM modulation in most TV transmitter signals that are broadcast from a station. If your new transmitter does not have these same modulated audio and video signals encoded into it, then you have not simulated the old TV station.

Final thought:
I don't think any of this will work to improve the operation of a Morgan-style PD.
But I could be wrong.
If I wanted to find out, then I would do it the way I described above.


Best Wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Good explanations and suggestions. As usual from you J_P.

Serious LRL experimenter have to considered this, if step toward some improvement is a goal.

Otherwise a bunch of telescopic antennas on PD's look very spacey.

[Geo]

There is a new type antenna special for PDs :lol::lol::lol: