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Qiaozhi
09-19-2011, 09:54 PM
Heavily compressed to reduce size.

Morgan
09-19-2011, 10:13 PM
Heavily compressed to reduce size.

now i´m sendind the test with Alonso´s PD,in the same place,one buried silver bracelet, 50 cm deep(buried 2 years ago).
See the diference,anyway the PD pinpoint is good.

Thanks

detectoman
09-19-2011, 11:15 PM
morgan creatura pero si estas sobre el objetivo, a solo 1 metro, que lrl es ese, ese solo es un md
creature, youre on the point what hig distance be these
this view is totally dark, your is banned how photogrape buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Morgan
09-19-2011, 11:25 PM
morgan creatura pero si estas sobre el objetivo, a solo 1 metro, que lrl es ese, ese solo es un md
creature, youre on the point what hig distance be these
this view is totally dark, your is banned how photogrape buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

You must understand that this silver target is NEW and buried only two years ago,with 200 will be much more distance.

Morgan
09-19-2011, 11:27 PM
morgan creatura pero si estas sobre el objetivo, a solo 1 metro, que lrl es ese, ese solo es un md
creature, youre on the point what hig distance be these
this view is totally dark, your is banned how photogrape buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

And,pay more atention on the PDK videos,usted no tien nocion de distancias, one meter is in the PINPOINT movie ;)

Morgan
09-19-2011, 11:37 PM
morgan creatura pero si estas sobre el objetivo, a solo 1 metro, que lrl es ese, ese solo es un md
creature, youre on the point what hig distance be these
this view is totally dark, your is banned how photogrape buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

See the film " PDK,walking over the target" in one area of 4 meters the PDK beeps over the buried bracelet,i think is very good distance for one silver object buried two years ago. With Alonso´s PD this distance is not possible,i get only 1,50m...Hope Qiaozhi post this PD videos.

detectoman
09-20-2011, 01:35 AM
debiste tomar ese video desde distancia para que se aprecie el panorama, estas reprobado como productor de cine
you sould take this video from far for we see good the panoramic
put any friend to film from wide lateral, but whit sun on scene, also these video be extremely short, sceptics md doing jokes of us, youre banned of our lrl club

LRLMAN
09-20-2011, 05:42 AM
See the film " PDK,walking over the target" in one area of 4 meters the PDK beeps over the buried bracelet,i think is very good distance for one silver object buried two years ago. With Alonso´s PD this distance is not possible,i get only 1,50m...Hope Qiaozhi post this PD videos.

Hola Estimado Morgan, los videos estan muy bien, tomando en cuenta que no debes filmarte a ti mismo; y la respuesta del equipo se ve exelente, suuuuuuper mi estimado Morgan yo en lo personal estaria muy feliz y dando de brincos con un aparato como ese y aun uno que de menos distancia que ese, pero que no falle

Hello Dear Morgan, the videos are very well, considering that you should not take video of yourself, and the LRL response is excellent, my dear Morgan suuuuuuper I personally would be very happy and giving jumps with a device like this and even a less distance than that, but it will not fail.

Regards

LRLMAN.

LRLMAN
09-20-2011, 05:46 AM
Haaa y no le hagas caso a Detectoman tus videos estan bien, ya habra tiempo de exibir mejores videos y bien planeados


Haaa and not pay any attention to Detectoman, videos are fine, there will be time best videos and exhibits well-planned

lrlman.

Geo
09-20-2011, 07:48 AM
My congratulations to Morgan.
May be it is time for sceptics to see with other eyes the LRLs

Qiaozhi
09-20-2011, 09:29 AM
debiste tomar ese video desde distancia para que se aprecie el panorama, estas reprobado como productor de cine
you sould take this video from far for we see good the panoramic
put any friend to film from wide lateral, but whit sun on scene, also these video be extremely short, sceptics md doing jokes of us, youre banned of our lrl club
The original videos were better quality, but had to be reduced in size and compressed in order to upload to the forum. However, you can still see the PDK in operation.

I will post the other videos later today.

WM6
09-20-2011, 10:55 AM
You must understand that this silver target is NEW and buried only two years ago,with 200 will be much more distance.

And,pay more atention on the PDK videos,usted no tien nocion de distancias, one meter is in the PINPOINT mov

See the film " PDK,walking over the target" in one area of 4 meters the PDK beeps over the buried bracelet,i think is very good distance for one silver object buried two years ago. With Alonso´s PD this distance is not possible,i get only 1,50m...Hope Qiaozhi post this PD videos.



Hi Morgan

congratulation for good performance.

As I understand in pinpoint video you have buried silver bracelet? Right?

Does your PDK have switch to switch to pinpoint mode or this is normal detecting but from vicinity?

aft_72005
09-20-2011, 11:45 AM
Hi Morgan
my hot congratulate for your nice PD , " PDK"http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/0011.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/Laie_94.gif

aft_72005
09-20-2011, 11:51 AM
Morgan , one things in movie is very interesting . the phenomenon field
Not discharge at short time !!!!!! . I think the only reason is coil . because
Coil affected as damping in to phenomenon filed .

Morgan
09-20-2011, 12:12 PM
Hi Morgan
my hot congratulate for your nice PD , " PDK"http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/0011.gifhttp://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/Laie_94.gif

Thanks to you !!! It was yours and Esteban project in the begining,i made a few modifications,very lucky.

Morgan
09-20-2011, 12:14 PM
Hi Morgan

congratulation for good performance.

As I understand in pinpoint video you have buried silver bracelet? Right?

Does your PDK have switch to switch to pinpoint mode or this is normal detecting but from vicinity?

No switch for pinpoint mode,just go more near the target and PDK start beeps more intensive enough to see where is the buried object.

Morgan
09-20-2011, 12:17 PM
Morgan , one things in movie is very interesting . the phenomenon field
Not discharge at short time !!!!!! . I think the only reason is coil . because
Coil affected as damping in to phenomenon filed .

If i insist in time during pinpoint,it desapear the Phenomenon,but it returns back in one minute.

I still learning...

WM6
09-20-2011, 02:46 PM
No switch for pinpoint mode,just go more near the target and PDK start beeps more intensive enough to see where is the buried object.



Very well Morgan.

Then I dont understand why you in "PDK, walking over the target" video need to energetic sweep left-right with PDK device, if we can see that you can in "pinpoint" video get clear signal with steady PDK (mean without sweeping left right)?

Are there no signal without sweeping during walking?

maimoune
09-20-2011, 05:04 PM
Hello Morgan...
congratulation for good performance.

michael
09-20-2011, 09:13 PM
Hi dear Morgan, accept my greatest congratulations. Very interesting to see such a stable and steady LRL. Hail to your perseverance.:)
Although you don't have any decision to lead us to such good LRL, thanks a lot for all of your favors to us for making the old PD. I personally never forget what you gave us here.

Let me tell you honestly; this is the only interesting part that attracts my attention nothing else, as in other subjects don't see special thing, from time to time you inject new blood in forum vessels.

I hope best success and improvement in your projects and hope to hit very precious target with this device and share us with your cheers.
BTW, video files are in good quality, thank you, I'm sure other friends here like and wait to see more of your interesting videos, please do it.:rolleyes:

Morgan
09-20-2011, 10:11 PM
Very well Morgan.

Then I dont understand why you in "PDK, walking over the target" video need to energetic sweep left-right with PDK device, if we can see that you can in "pinpoint" video get clear signal with steady PDK (mean without sweeping left right)?

Are there no signal without sweeping during walking?

I can get signals sweeping very slow device, and also when PDK stay static more close to target it start continuous beep, maybe i not understand your question.

Morgan
09-20-2011, 10:23 PM
Hi dear Morgan, accept my greatest congratulations. Very interesting to see such a stable and steady LRL. Hail to your perseverance.:)
Although you don't have any decision to lead us to such good LRL, thanks a lot for all of your favors to us for making the old PD. I personally never forget what you gave us here.

Let me tell you honestly; this is the only interesting part that attracts my attention nothing else, as in other subjects don't see special thing, from time to time you inject new blood in forum vessels.

I hope best success and improvement in your projects and hope to hit very precious target with this device and share us with your cheers.
BTW, video files are in good quality, thank you, I'm sure other friends here like and wait to see more of your interesting videos, please do it.:rolleyes:

hello

i have much better videos but they are from field searching and too big,i will find the way to reduce them and post here.
well, one of this days i can post the PDK version for treasures and big objects,but until now nobody ask me that,are you interested? no problem, you will have it. The recent PDK version for more small targets i dont want to put here,a lot of work my friend,its my golden egg chicken.

Regards

Qiaozhi
09-21-2011, 12:58 AM
Alonso PD

michael
09-21-2011, 08:46 AM
hello

i have much better videos but they are from field searching and too big,i will find the way to reduce them and post here.
well, one of this days i can post the PDK version for treasures and big objects,but until now nobody ask me that,are you interested? no problem, you will have it. The recent PDK version for more small targets i dont want to put here,a lot of work my friend,its my golden egg chicken.

Regards

Hi, yes man, yes. why not? do a favor and question? Anyway it's another precious unforgettable gift.
I'm sure other guys here love your behavior. But before that I want to know PDK advantages to old PD.
Will we have very stable and constant results without crazy beeps near a big target? better for pinpointing? how distant can locate a big target?.

BTW, Qiaozhi, thank you for your efforts to convert and put videos here. I forgot to thank you, pardon me.

Morgan
09-21-2011, 11:53 AM
Hi, yes man, yes. why not? do a favor and question? Anyway it's another precious unforgettable gift.
I'm sure other guys here love your behavior. But before that I want to know PDK advantages to old PD.
Will we have very stable and constant results without crazy beeps near a big target? better for pinpointing? how distant can locate a big target?.

BTW, Qiaozhi, thank you for your efforts to convert and put videos here. I forgot to thank you, pardon me.

Hi Michael

The PDK (version for big objects) is completly AUTOMATIC no need sensitivity adjustments,simple using the GAIN (470K Pot.) in FULL POWER. It will start beeping 20 m distance from soda can size object,gold or silver(found silver plated jar at this distance,40cm deep). You will find the PDK boring to use in field becouse of his SILENCE,but he will be silent only if you are searching in EMPTY PLACES.
If you or others interested in PDK,i sugest we return to the RS FORUM,and start this project,one friend Nelson already start and both together can build the PDK.


Regards

Morgan
09-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Hi, yes man, yes. why not? do a favor and question? Anyway it's another precious unforgettable gift.
I'm sure other guys here love your behavior. But before that I want to know PDK advantages to old PD.
Will we have very stable and constant results without crazy beeps near a big target? better for pinpointing? how distant can locate a big target?.

BTW, Qiaozhi, thank you for your efforts to convert and put videos here. I forgot to thank you, pardon me.

Also you can use in PDK one coil or the Ferrite connected to the Passive Receiver.

Nelson already build one PCB,this make things more easy,my PDK was made with nails placed in one wood tablet.

michael
09-21-2011, 12:28 PM
Hi Morgan.
By all means. I'm the first one who votes positive. my hand is up.:)
I here are some other RS-members who are ready come there to start. although I don't know much about electronic, will do my best or any help can do.

If big knowledgeable members like Qiaozhi, J-Player, Ivconic, Max, Geo(guess dislikes to improve us in this matter) ... agree to help, is an honor and am sure will get good results.

Don't know if nelson agrees to share us with his elaborates or not, if do is our debt on him.
Again thank you man.

Morgan
09-21-2011, 12:38 PM
Hi Morgan.
By all means. I'm the first one who votes positive. my hand is up.:)
I here are some other RS-members who are ready come there to start. although I don't know much about electronic, will do my best or any help can do.

If big knowledgeable members like Qiaozhi, J-Player, Ivconic, Max, Geo(guess dislikes to improve us in this matter) ... agree to help, is an honor and am sure will get good results.

Don't know if nelson agrees to share us with his elaborates or not, if do is our debt on him.
Again thank you man.

I´m sure Nelson will agree,he is a person who like to share,see his threads.

You know i can be a pirate but also can share part of what i have,in this case the PDK.
If you already build the PD,with this new one is more easy.

In the PDK project i want to adapt the BATTERY ALERT,this is very important,becouse when PDK batt. are LOW is not able to find targets.

Regards

Geo
09-21-2011, 12:44 PM
Why RS????
As we saw the schematics from RS have posted at other forums, so there is not any secret. But if Morgan wants to post infos at RS then no problem from me.
:)

Geo
09-21-2011, 12:47 PM
I´m sure Nelson will agree,he is a person who like to share,see his threads.

You know i can be a pirate but also can share part of what i have,in this case the PDK.
If you already build the PD,with this new one is more easy.

In the PDK project i want to adapt the BATTERY ALERT,this is very important,becouse when PDK batt. are LOW is not able to find targets.

Regards

Battery low is very simple. Make the ciscuit from Alonso's PD.

Zocky-Zocky
09-21-2011, 01:01 PM
Hi Michael

If you or others interested in PDK,i sugest we return to the RS FORUM,and start this project,one friend Nelson already start and both together can build the PDK.

Regards

Hi Morgan!
I want to congratulate you on a well made ​​machine and would like to thank their time and extract pages that we present your very interesting successes.
I am very interested to construct such devices as you construct, so I asked you to help me advice:
1st How to construct a valid and functional, "Alonso PD" like yours?, And
2 How to construct a valid and functional PDK like yours?
I hope not asking too much?
In any case, many thanks in advance!
All best wishes
Zocky-Zocky

LRLMAN
09-21-2011, 04:20 PM
Battery low is very simple. Make the ciscuit from Alonso's PD.


Your opinion about put the schematic information, Master Geo, is very important for me.

Mr Geo Excuse me, I could not send the number of integrated that you asked me, I had a lot of work but for today I will try to verify this information and sent it to you and thank you very much for your fine attentions

Best regards.

lrlman

Geo
09-21-2011, 07:06 PM
Your opinion about put the schematic information, Master Geo, is very important for me.

Mr Geo Excuse me, I could not send the number of integrated that you asked me, I had a lot of work but for today I will try to verify this information and sent it to you and thank you very much for your fine attentions

Best regards.

lrlman

Thanks LRLMAN.
I can inform you that as i believe (sorry if i will be wrong:frown:) your modified red lrl is about the same with the Morgan's PDK. Maybe the PDK of Morgan has more sensitivity (only he knows because he made the modifications) but i believe that this is not so big problem.

Regards:)

LRLMAN
09-21-2011, 11:46 PM
Hi Michael

The PDK (version for big objects) is completly AUTOMATIC no need sensitivity adjustments,simple using the GAIN (470K Pot.) in FULL POWER. It will start beeping 20 m distance from soda can size object,gold or silver(found silver plated jar at this distance,40cm deep). You will find the PDK boring to use in field becouse of his SILENCE,but he will be silent only if you are searching in EMPTY PLACES.
If you or others interested in PDK,i sugest we return to the RS FORUM,and start this project,one friend Nelson already start and both together can build the PDK.


Regards



Friends, I want to return to the RS FORUM,and start this project, but which is this forum? I do not understand, can someone help me please?

Morgan
09-22-2011, 12:53 AM
Battery low is very simple. Make the ciscuit from Alonso's PD.

Yes,this one is good to put in the PDK circuit.

Morgan
09-22-2011, 12:56 AM
Hi Morgan!
I want to congratulate you on a well made ​​machine and would like to thank their time and extract pages that we present your very interesting successes.
I am very interested to construct such devices as you construct, so I asked you to help me advice:
1st How to construct a valid and functional, "Alonso PD" like yours?, And
2 How to construct a valid and functional PDK like yours?
I hope not asking too much?
In any case, many thanks in advance!
All best wishes
Zocky-Zocky

What i have to give here is the PDK first version,enough to find big objects.
I think is also interesting?

Morgan
09-22-2011, 01:04 AM
Friends, I want to return to the RS FORUM,and start this project, but which is this forum? I do not understand, can someone help me please?

This is the secret forum, not available for everybody,the place where we put advanced ideias and LRL schematics.
To enter,need to talk with Qiaozhi or Carl .

Morgan
09-22-2011, 01:33 AM
Why RS????
As we saw the schematics from RS have posted at other forums, so there is not any secret. But if Morgan wants to post infos at RS then no problem from me.
:)

Anyway is better to put there the PDK project,this was started by Esteban long time ago,i go to find the tread,and post the information there.

Tim Williams
09-22-2011, 01:33 AM
This is the secret forum, not available for everybody,the place where we put advanced ideias and LRL schematics.
To enter,need to talk with Qiaozhi or Carl .


I didn't know there was a secret forum?

Tim

Morgan
09-22-2011, 02:34 AM
Anyway is better to put there the PDK project,this was started by Esteban long time ago,i go to find the tread,and post the information there.

Project is already there.
Good luck for those who want to build.
I will give coil information later.

nelson
09-22-2011, 04:18 AM
Hi Morgan
First of all, let me congratulate your big effort to finally show to all members here that PDK and the phenomenum really exist and works. We all know how deep you have to work to get this fantastics results.
I also appreciate the others members succes on this, but i also will like to let all know that Morgan is correct. He said that he will share this proyect to the people that is really interested to build it and test it. All the work behind this, need to be develop on the base of making your own pcb´s, test it, get some conclusions, recheck for errors and better performance and so on.
We don´t have to wait for a schematic and just build a working PDK. I think each one should build the basic project, experiment and get conclusions to then share here. What i really mean is that a good working and sensitive PDK, must be the work of all smart members of geotech forum who bealive on this project.
In my case, i have build two pcb´s, the first one had lost of errors, son then i decided to build another one. Today i had finish my pcb, mounted almost all components and i hope tomorrow i will be able to star my first test. My pcb is very simple and i was made on sprint layout. This first try need some minor corrections but i bealive is 100% functional.
So tomorrow i hope it will be my big day.
Best regards Morgan and to all PDG fanatics
Nelson

PD: Morgan, i will PM very soon when i get news on PDK

Also you can use in PDK one coil or the Ferrite connected to the Passive Receiver.

Nelson already build one PCB,this make things more easy,my PDK was made with nails placed in one wood tablet.

Goldmaxx
09-22-2011, 10:29 PM
Hello Qiaozhi,
i would like to write you a PM, but have apparently not have permission to write you one. I have another opportunity to write you a personal mail?

best Regards

Qiaozhi
09-22-2011, 11:59 PM
Hello Qiaozhi,
i would like to write you a PM, but have apparently not have permission to write you one. I have another opportunity to write you a personal mail?

best Regards
You have to make at least one post before you can send a PM.
You have just done that; so please try again.

Funfinder
09-23-2011, 04:32 AM
Hi Morgan

congratulation for good performance.

As I understand in pinpoint video you have buried silver bracelet? Right?

Does your PDK have switch to switch to pinpoint mode or this is normal detecting but from vicinity?

Look at WM6 !

After all his mean and evil ridicule and scorn against LRL (and Jeohunter, too!) now he plays the understanding and interested person and gives out congratulations ! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Like a little child - first playing dirty games and trying how far it can go with it's "terror" including insulting bad behaviour and if the parents threat it with heavy consequences it starts to be play nice ! :angry:

Morgan, better don't waste your time with this guy,
his interest ist only a filthy lie ! :razz:

WM6
09-23-2011, 12:56 PM
After all his mean and evil ridicule and scorn against LRL (and Jeohunter, too!)

:razz:

Agree with you, Jeohunter is only LRL crap.

Morgan
09-23-2011, 05:50 PM
Look at WM6 !

After all his mean and evil ridicule and scorn against LRL (and Jeohunter, too!) now he plays the understanding and interested person and gives out congratulations ! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Like a little child - first playing dirty games and trying how far it can go with it's "terror" including insulting bad behaviour and if the parents threat it with heavy consequences it starts to be play nice ! :angry:

Morgan, better don't waste your time with this guy,
his interest ist only a filthy lie ! :razz:

WD40 member is part of this forum as skeptical about LRL´s,but i also was in the beginig.Remember,i was in Brazil,i meet Damasio,he looks to me a serious person,not a lier ,anyway his Mineoro not work good here...Lets see if PDK works everywere?
LRL´s are more critical than you can imagine.
Time will show if LRL´s will be or not the FUTURE in TH.

Morgan
09-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Look at WM6 !

After all his mean and evil ridicule and scorn against LRL (and Jeohunter, too!) now he plays the understanding and interested person and gives out congratulations ! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Like a little child - first playing dirty games and trying how far it can go with it's "terror" including insulting bad behaviour and if the parents threat it with heavy consequences it starts to be play nice ! :angry:

Morgan, better don't waste your time with this guy,
his interest ist only a filthy lie ! :razz:

i know you go to enter in RS PDK project. Than you can try the device there in Germany.

Good luck

gibon
09-23-2011, 07:13 PM
Look at WM6 !

After all his mean and evil ridicule and scorn against LRL (and Jeohunter, too!) now he plays the understanding and interested person and gives out congratulations ! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Like a little child - first playing dirty games and trying how far it can go with it's "terror" including insulting bad behaviour and if the parents threat it with heavy consequences it starts to be play nice ! :angry:

Morgan, better don't waste your time with this guy,
his interest ist only a filthy lie ! :razz:

Absolutly RIGHT !!! Some poeple here are always ready to laugh about the face of the other sitting on theire chair.

Congratulation MORGAN for your always interseting Thread and experimentation.

Sincerly

GIBON

WM6
09-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Absolutly RIGHT !!! Some poeple here are always ready to laugh about the face of the other sitting on theire chair.



Laugh???

This is not true, I am crying, cause no one LRL is working..

Morgan
09-23-2011, 11:50 PM
Hi Morgan
First of all, let me congratulate your big effort to finally show to all members here that PDK and the phenomenum really exist and works. We all know how deep you have to work to get this fantastics results.
I also appreciate the others members succes on this, but i also will like to let all know that Morgan is correct. He said that he will share this proyect to the people that is really interested to build it and test it. All the work behind this, need to be develop on the base of making your own pcb´s, test it, get some conclusions, recheck for errors and better performance and so on.
We don´t have to wait for a schematic and just build a working PDK. I think each one should build the basic project, experiment and get conclusions to then share here. What i really mean is that a good working and sensitive PDK, must be the work of all smart members of geotech forum who bealive on this project.
In my case, i have build two pcb´s, the first one had lost of errors, son then i decided to build another one. Today i had finish my pcb, mounted almost all components and i hope tomorrow i will be able to star my first test. My pcb is very simple and i was made on sprint layout. This first try need some minor corrections but i bealive is 100% functional.
So tomorrow i hope it will be my big day.
Best regards Morgan and to all PDG fanatics
Nelson

PD: Morgan, i will PM very soon when i get news on PDK

PDK circuits i post in RS project ,PISTOLDETECTOR VERSION 1.19

Geo
09-24-2011, 06:23 AM
I don't see interest:(
Nobody asked about coil and oscillator for coil stimulator.....

Aziz
09-24-2011, 09:58 AM
Put the schematics here and I can show you, what you are measuring.

Could be induced EMI noise
Could be electro magnetic wave induction
Could be other noise sources from electrical parts
Could be parasitic coupled EM sources
....

The video does not show any valuable evidence. LRL won't work. That's a fact.
Stop hocus pocusing.
:angry:
Aziz

Geo
09-24-2011, 11:27 AM
Morgan has the schematic, not me.
Now about lrls (if work or not).... you have not any idea. When you will find buried objects with lrl only then you will understand them.
Until then, Never say "never".
:)

Aziz
09-24-2011, 11:45 AM
Morgan has the schematic, not me.
Now about lrls (if work or not).... you have not any idea. When you will find buried objects with lrl only then you will understand them.
Until then, Never say "never".
:)

Geo,

comeon, give us more reliable proof of it. The videos show nothing.
I claim further, that any LRL isn't working.
:nono:
Comeon guys, you can win a price. Carl (webmaster of this forum) and Mr. Randi offer a challange to win a price.

Stop hocus pocussing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:angry:
Aziz

Geo
09-24-2011, 09:33 PM
Geo,

comeon, give us more reliable proof of it. The videos show nothing.
I claim further, that any LRL isn't working.
:nono:
Comeon guys, you can win a price. Carl (webmaster of this forum) and Mr. Randi offer a challange to win a price.

Stop hocus pocussing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:angry:
Aziz

Hi Aziz.
What proof wount you like??
Morgan posted here a lot of video. Also i posted here 3 videos....
What do you think, all are fraud!!!! why????
I am not MD seller, the same Morgan. Why to spend my time and my money to make fraud videos??
LRL work but have some problems.The big problem is the bad pinpoint, as you go more near to the object you lose the "center". This is the reason that all the lrl users need a MD for pinpoint but most times the objects are more deep than the ability of MD. If you are looking for single coins then a MD maybe to be better, but if you are a serious treasure hunter and you don't have a good LRL then is impossible to find any treasure.
Now about Carl's or Randi's money..... it is another story:lol:. Remember the proposal of Esteban

Regards

Morgan
09-24-2011, 10:59 PM
Hi Aziz.
What proof wount you like??
Morgan posted here a lot of video. Also i posted here 3 videos....
What do you think, all are fraud!!!! why????
I am not MD seller, the same Morgan. Why to spend my time and my money to make fraud videos??
LRL work but have some problems.The big problem is the bad pinpoint, as you go more near to the object you lose the "center". This is the reason that all the lrl users need a MD for pinpoint but most times the objects are more deep than the ability of MD. If you are looking for single coins then a MD maybe to be better, but if you are a serious treasure hunter and you don't have a good LRL then is impossible to find any treasure.
Now about Carl's or Randi's money..... it is another story:lol:. Remember the proposal of Esteban

Regards


Karl or Randi can keep the money,i´m not interested in the challenge . Why i post here all this videos? To show that my LRL´s working HERE,if work in other countries i dont know.
Your LRL seems to work here with the gold medalion,so why not work in Greece?????????????? We are learning about LRL´s, this is what i´m doing all this years since we start the PD project.

I go to send for Qiaozhi two more videos of one target that i even not dig,just in case of someone want to see evidence,and anyway is good for test my LRL´s,is near my home.

Regards

Geo
09-25-2011, 04:09 AM
Karl or Randi can keep the money,i´m not interested in the challenge . Why i post here all this videos? To show that my LRL´s working HERE,if work in other countries i dont know.
Your LRL seems to work here with the gold medalion,so why not work in Greece?????????????? We are learning about LRL´s, this is what i´m doing all this years since we start the PD project.

I go to send for Qiaozhi two more videos of one target that i even not dig,just in case of someone want to see evidence,and anyway is good for test my LRL´s,is near my home.

Regards

Now you answer to me or to Aziz?????

Aziz
09-25-2011, 09:54 AM
You guys have to learn a lot when making field test videos.

What you show isn't a real proof of evidence.

But if you take and win the challenge by Carl or Randi, who will guarantee the proof of evidence, then I will believe you guys.

Comeon guys, show us the complete schematics and I show you, what you are really measuring. This is my challenge offer to you.

Aziz

Morgan
09-25-2011, 03:51 PM
You guys have to learn a lot when making field test videos.

What you show isn't a real proof of evidence.

But if you take and win the challenge by Carl or Randi, who will guarantee the proof of evidence, then I will believe you guys.

Comeon guys, show us the complete schematics and I show you, what you are really measuring. This is my challenge offer to you.

Aziz

Its allways a lot of work behind this LRL´s,years of work,i think this is not to give for others to explore and mass produce. This is the reason why Esteban only give CLUES about his LRL´s,anyway i put the PDK 1 schematic in this Forum,the PDK 2 is the same with little modification and 10X more powerfull. Everybody can play with this PDK and maybe make better than me.

Morgan
09-25-2011, 04:05 PM
Hi Morgan.
By all means. I'm the first one who votes positive. my hand is up.:)
I here are some other RS-members who are ready come there to start. although I don't know much about electronic, will do my best or any help can do.

If big knowledgeable members like Qiaozhi, J-Player, Ivconic, Max, Geo(guess dislikes to improve us in this matter) ... agree to help, is an honor and am sure will get good results.

Don't know if nelson agrees to share us with his elaborates or not, if do is our debt on him.
Again thank you man.

Hello

I agree to send one PDK to test in the desert for one forum member Mosha,he will pay for this LRL not more than a second hand MD,i´m not LRL seller this i make for cientific progress. If not work there,i receive the PDK back and give him what he paid except the DHL money.
The PDK will be tested here ,near the silver bracelet,and then in the arabia desert,we will see if it works there,or not.
If someone not agree,please post against.


Regards

Tim Williams
09-25-2011, 04:17 PM
Morgan Which thread has the starting information on your PDK? I will take time to build and test here in the states. I live near the coast and have a lot of humidity. Can this affect the readings? I will try to look through the thread and piece all mods together and make a pdf to post if others want to build and test instead of wading through the thread. I can send it to you before posting so you can correct any problems.

Then all will have an updated schematic and instruction to start. Please let me know.

Tim

Morgan
09-25-2011, 04:42 PM
Morgan Which thread has the starting information on your PDK? I will take time to build and test here in the states. I live near the coast and have a lot of humidity. Can this affect the readings? I will try to look through the thread and piece all mods together and make a pdf to post if others want to build and test instead of wading through the thread. I can send it to you before posting so you can correct any problems.

Then all will have an updated schematic and instruction to start. Please let me know.

Tim

Hello

If you are not a comercial person waithing for some LRL to clone and sell,you are wellcome to RS project and see the project.

Tim Williams
09-25-2011, 04:46 PM
No I will not sell but want to use in my hunts if it works. I may be able to add to the project with a processor.

Tim

Morgan
09-25-2011, 04:57 PM
No I will not sell but want to use in my hunts if it works. I may be able to add to the project with a processor.

Tim

If will work or not in other countries than here,this is what Mosha will tell us. If not work there,it means PDK as more secrets than we can solve,and is one obsolet project out of my country. We are learning.

WM6
09-25-2011, 05:32 PM
I am not MD seller, the same Morgan. Why to spend my time and my money to make fraud videos??



Geo, you do not need to be seller to believe in LRL functionality.

"Why to spend your time and your money"? This is irrational question in matter of beliefs.

Believer need to fasten his religion no matter of time and money.

Regarding videos: all videos with known target worth nothing as evidence of LRL functionality. Explained many times here on forum. But be sure that sceptic are open to accept real evidence in LRL keys (repeatable finding in test with unknown target position).

nelson
09-26-2011, 03:18 AM
Yes Morgan, i know is pistol detector 1.19 project, but your results are the constant work you had apply to this project.
So keep gong my friend
Regards
Nelson


PDK circuits i post in RS project ,PISTOLDETECTOR VERSION 1.19

Geo
09-26-2011, 06:39 AM
Geo, you do not need to be seller to believe in LRL functionality.

"Why to spend your time and your money"? This is irrational question in matter of beliefs.

Believer need to fasten his religion no matter of time and money.

Regarding videos: all videos with known target worth nothing as evidence of LRL functionality. Explained many times here on forum. But be sure that sceptic are open to accept real evidence in LRL keys (repeatable finding in test with unknown target position).

Hi WM6
All skeptics change their opinion when they see a LRL το locate objects over long distances or dowsing to locate buried objects. You and some others do not want to see a working lrl because are you afraid to change your opinion.
I was once negative and I with them but when i saw that they work I changed my opinion. I traveled to Portugal in order to see the lrl Morgan to work and you did not come to Greece, which is next to your country. Anyway Surely any one can believe he wants and it's not good trying to change the opinion of others so to be the same with him.
Regards:)

aft_72005
09-26-2011, 07:17 AM
Karl or Randi can keep the money,i´m not interested in the challenge . Why i post here all this videos? To show that my LRL´s working HERE,if work in other countries i dont know.
Your LRL seems to work here with the gold medalion,so why not work in Greece?????????????? We are learning about LRL´s, this is what i´m doing all this years since we start the PD project.

I go to send for Qiaozhi two more videos of one target that i even not dig,just in case of someone want to see evidence,and anyway is good for test my LRL´s,is near my home.

Regards

Hi Qiaozhi
I am interesting see Morgan movies, please upload
Best regards.

WM6
09-26-2011, 09:00 AM
Hi WM6
All skeptics change their opinion when they see a LRL το locate objects over long distances or dowsing to locate buried objects. You and some others do not want to see a working lrl because are you afraid to change your opinion.
I was once negative and I with them but when i saw that they work I changed my opinion. I traveled to Portugal in order to see the lrl Morgan to work and you did not come to Greece, which is next to your country. Anyway Surely any one can believe he wants and it's not good trying to change the opinion of others so to be the same with him.
Regards:)

Geo, you are wrong if you think that skeptic hate LRL or LRL believers. Contrário.

We, skeptic, are more interested in working LRL than believers, but we are not willing to fool ourselves by misleading results or possible cheap tricks.

I am willing to attend serious LRL test, but has to be prepared so, that its validity will not be questioned. I hope to meet you and Morgan (and of course Funfinder too) on such test.

Qiaozhi
09-26-2011, 09:56 AM
Sorry for the delay.

GOLDENSKULL
09-26-2011, 10:04 AM
Its allways a lot of work behind this LRL´s,years of work,i think this is not to give for others to explore and mass produce. This is the reason why Esteban only give CLUES about his LRL´s,anyway i put the PDK 1 schematic in this Forum,the PDK 2 is the same with little modification and 10X more powerfull. Everybody can play with this PDK and maybe make better than me.


Hi,
Dear Morgan, in which post you put your PDK 1 and PDK 2 schematic and information about these ?

Thanks...

GOLDENSKULL
09-26-2011, 10:21 AM
Sorry for the delay.


Thanks, Qiaozhi

in these videos what thing buried underground ? and how to pinpointing this spot ?
this is PDK1 or PDK2 ? what about these schematics ?

aft_72005
09-26-2011, 11:21 AM
Sorry for the delay.


Thank you . http://www.iranmicro.ir/forum/images/smilies/good.gif

Morgan
09-26-2011, 11:56 PM
Hi,
Dear Morgan, in which post you put your PDK 1 and PDK 2 schematic and information about these ?

Thanks...

The PDK 1 is the same as the PDK 2 (but this one as simple modification for more power) you can see in the first films ,the BIG wood box,test with silver bracelet buried two years ago.

The PDK 3 is this last films,where i locate one target(not dig yet) that keep for more tests.
This PDK as the OSCILLATOR behing the RX coil,and this gives extra POWER .

aft_72005
09-27-2011, 06:52 AM
The PDK 1 is the same as the PDK 2 (but this one as simple modification for more power) you can see in the first films ,the BIG wood box,test with silver bracelet buried two years ago.

The PDK 3 is this last films,where i locate one target(not dig yet) that keep for more tests.
This PDK as the OSCILLATOR behing the RX coil,and this gives extra POWER .


Hi Morgan
I saw your last movie , the PDK box seem as DCH85 method , it seem as
Mini tow box , I built the seem with very good null , also I had copper target
Buried 10 years ago , my detector didn’t detect target!!!!!. I am agree with
Phenomenon for long buried metals . for me phenomenon was proof
My question from you and other forum members . why LRL working good In Brazil , Portugal. But doesn't work good in Asia???

detectoman
09-27-2011, 08:22 AM
dear brother morgan, my big congratulations for those last two videos, semms today sceptic today they cant refused the veraciticy of this true proof, then you be winer and they are put banned out
sayme an thing morgan, these pdk have clasiffier habilites for noble metals? thanks,

your genius electronician inventor how alonso and esteban, felicidades
eres ganador, en ese aspecto, tu superas a los ingenieros electronicos estudiados, y simpatizantes incredulos de los standar detectores de metales tales como wm6 ellos quedan avergonzados, cuida tus mejores secretos. es suficiente lo que nos has dado, gracias

Morgan
09-27-2011, 12:33 PM
dear brother morgan, my big congratulations for those last two videos, semms today sceptic today they cant refused the veraciticy of this true proof, then you be winer and they are put banned out
sayme an thing morgan, these pdk have clasiffier habilites for noble metals? thanks,

your genius electronician inventor how alonso and esteban, felicidades
eres ganador, en ese aspecto, tu superas a los ingenieros electronicos estudiados, y simpatizantes incredulos de los standar detectores de metales tales como wm6 ellos quedan avergonzados, cuida tus mejores secretos. es suficiente lo que nos has dado, gracias

Yes,it only locate GOLD or SILVER,becouse all the project is made for resonates in the frequency of this two noble metals.

Gracias,hasta la vista ;)

Morgan
09-27-2011, 12:41 PM
Hi Morgan
I saw your last movie , the PDK box seem as DCH85 method , it seem as
Mini tow box , I built the seem with very good null , also I had copper target
Buried 10 years ago , my detector didn’t detect target!!!!!. I am agree with
Phenomenon for long buried metals . for me phenomenon was proof
My question from you and other forum members . why LRL working good In Brazil , Portugal. But doesn't work good in Asia???

Hello

the copper targets are not good for LRL test,i insist,put some SILVER WITH SALT (one silver ring is good)underground and you will have the PHENOMENON growing every year.
I know is possible to prepare the LRL for locates only copper, but think it worth ???
Also imagine that you go search in a place where there are 100´s of copper coins underground,this is impossible to handle the LRL,it will beep everywere !!!You will think the device is malfunction...

folharin
09-28-2011, 10:22 PM
[quote=Morgan;135360]Hello
please post the schema PDK for all forum members

I have the exact frequency to detect rx old gold

g-sani
09-28-2011, 11:09 PM
[quote=Morgan;135360]Hello
please post the schema PDK for all forum members

I have the exact frequency to detect rx old gold

What do you mean the exact frequency? And what is rx ?

folharin
09-28-2011, 11:21 PM
[quote=g-sani;135441][quote=folharin;135436]

The exact frequency of the receiver of the ferrite.(..?)khz!!!!!

Morgan
09-28-2011, 11:44 PM
[quote=g-sani;135441][quote=folharin;135436]

The exact frequency of the receiver of the ferrite.(..?)khz!!!!!

62KHz ?

folharin
09-28-2011, 11:53 PM
here in brazil....64.5 khz

putrechigi
09-29-2011, 02:31 PM
hi at all is a long time i don't write here but todai i see many news congratulation morgan for your results but i hope at you from your first video you know now my life is change and i have a little time for treasure huting and i can't spend a time to construction a pd but is beautiful to see this video.
best reguards
manolo

folharin
10-11-2011, 03:56 PM
Please tell me how many turns fallow L7 and L8 of the core for the next tune 64khz the pdk. thanks!

gwlwudi
10-12-2011, 03:25 AM
Yes,it only locate GOLD or SILVER,becouse all the project is made for resonates in the frequency of this two noble metals.

Gracias,hasta la vista ;)


hello Morgan:
frist,congratulations,
you say the resonates in the frequency of the GOLD or SILVER,but how many frequency is correct frequency,the AL718 is 27K hz,so the 62K HZ is where from...:shocked:,can you help me.
thank you.
best wish for you.

Geo
10-12-2011, 06:16 AM
At Al718 the 27Khz is not the the gold frequency. Very simple at this frequency AL-718 try to receiver a VLF signal. 62Khz is a good frequency for PDK but there is not problem if you will use other "empty" frequences. You can try.....

WM6
10-13-2011, 02:29 PM
At Al718 the 27Khz is not the the gold frequency. Very simple at this frequency AL-718 try to receiver a VLF signal. 62Khz is a good frequency for PDK but there is not problem if you will use other "empty" frequences. You can try.....


Yes, GoldGun frequencies has nothing to do with gold frequency or gold resonance.

AL-718 is very simplified form of using principle as in this patent (good reading for LRL constructors):

Fred
10-13-2011, 02:42 PM
At Al718 the 27Khz is not the the gold frequency. Very simple at this frequency AL-718 try to receiver a VLF signal. 62Khz is a good frequency for PDK but there is not problem if you will use other "empty" frequences. You can try.....

Yes, "empty" frequencies don´t really exist, it´s just a matter of level, direction and Rx bandwidth..:)

Geo
10-14-2011, 05:20 PM
Yes, "empty" frequencies don´t really exist, it´s just a matter of level, direction and Rx bandwidth..:)

Depending on the region there are frequency ranges not capable to take.
This i mean "empty" frequency...:)

Geo
10-14-2011, 05:29 PM
Yes, GoldGun frequencies has nothing to do with gold frequency or gold resonance.

AL-718 is very simplified form of using principle as in this patent (good reading for LRL constructors):

Is AL-718 so complex????:lol:

bureaupro2000@yahoo.com
10-16-2011, 08:40 AM
Heavily compressed to reduce size.

Hello
It seems to work, can you send me the documentation for the PDK (version for large objects)? I want to test it ...
All the best

Qiaozhi
10-16-2011, 10:27 AM
Hello
It seems to work, can you send me the documentation for the PDK (version for large objects)? I want to test it ...
All the best
You will need to ask Morgan.

bureaupro2000@yahoo.com
10-16-2011, 11:54 AM
[QUOTE=folharin;135445][quote=g-sani;135441]

62KHz ?

Hello Morgan
It seems to work, can you send me the documentation for the PDK (version for large objects)? I want to test it ...
All the best

MIJ
10-16-2011, 06:13 PM
Yes,it only locate GOLD or SILVER,becouse all the project is made for resonates in the frequency of this two noble metals.

Gracias,hasta la vista ;)

Hi Morgan,

I must say that I’m very impressed with your videos; you deserve congratulations for all the patience and dedication that you have put into your PDK project.

I wonder how it would perform here in the UK as most of the good areas are contaminated with iron targets.

Keep up the great work.

Morgan
10-16-2011, 10:46 PM
Hi Morgan,

I must say that I’m very impressed with your videos; you deserve congratulations for all the patience and dedication that you have put into your PDK project.

I wonder how it would perform here in the UK as most of the good areas are contaminated with iron targets.

Keep up the great work.

I was in UK some years ago,i like very much this country,well, not the weather,i was metal derecting in some rally not far from Sharewood forest. I found many things there but nothing special,anyway i like the fact that we can use a metal detector in the fields( place not archeological).

The PDK not as any problems with iron infested places,it will go direct only to noble metal targets.Its possible to find a big treasure 100 m distance.

Its in my plans return to UK with one of my PDK´s,want go to Celtic and Viking territory for search and give to the British Museum wath i will find,and they will give to me something as reward.In England they have the best MD law .

folharin
10-17-2011, 11:57 PM
someone please tell me ... in pdk alonso ferrite detects only precious metal or all metal?

Morgan
10-18-2011, 12:28 AM
someone please tell me ... in pdk alonso ferrite detects only precious metal or all metal?

precious only

Morgan
11-22-2011, 05:28 PM
Hi Morgan
I saw your last movie , the PDK box seem as DCH85 method , it seem as
Mini tow box , I built the seem with very good null , also I had copper target
Buried 10 years ago , my detector didn’t detect target!!!!!. I am agree with
Phenomenon for long buried metals . for me phenomenon was proof
My question from you and other forum members . why LRL working good In Brazil , Portugal. But doesn't work good in Asia???

I have more movies with PDK-2, and the calibrations.I send to QIAOHZI .

Finaly i found the best resine to insulate the circuits,and one epoxy spray to covering all the wires.

17514

17515

Morgan
11-22-2011, 06:02 PM
precious only

this time the test was made again in the field test with buried silver bracelet,the weather is raining,humidity 95% ,the ground completly wet,see the results,PDK-2 still locating the target,not afected by the humidity.
This device has future in TH.
Later i will test in salt water and beach.

MIJ
11-22-2011, 10:07 PM
Thanks Morgan

Look forward to seeing videos

Qiaozhi
11-22-2011, 11:05 PM
.

Alexismex
11-23-2011, 01:29 AM
In the fine tuning....a little touch of magic with the finger :):):)

WM6
11-23-2011, 08:54 AM
this time the test was made again in the field test with buried silver bracelet,the weather is raining,humidity 95% ,the ground completly wet,see the results,PDK-2 still locating the target,not afected by the humidity.
This device has future in TH.
Later i will test in salt water and beach.

Hi Morgan,

thanks for videos.

Evidently you developed a "motion PDK". Here we need a "non-motion PDK" too.

You tune device on border sensitivity, where it can be trigered by intensive moving (you know: touch fine botton is enough) in earth magnetic field, or in existend atmospheric static field, or by inner construction unstability (I can tell you more if I know details of your construction).

Your device is pretty the same thing as by Geo, so, sorry to say, but your device has no "future in TH".

All remote detection researcher need first to study double blind test before develop anything. In contrary we are quicly in field of delusions.

Tim Williams
11-23-2011, 02:08 PM
A capacitance nightmare!

Morgan
11-23-2011, 08:28 PM
In the fine tuning....a little touch of magic with the finger :):):)

the front knob is the fine tuning,this make the device very sensitive.
it take more time to calibrate than using only the gain knob,but it worth the time.
the test was made in the same place where the silver bracelet is buried,but this time the ground is very wet,its raining days.

Morgan
11-23-2011, 08:32 PM
A capacitance nightmare!

yes,you cant imagine what a trouble to calibrate the coils until the device start locating the target,i not have oscilloscope,and i like to do this way.

Morgan
11-23-2011, 08:56 PM
In the fine tuning....a little touch of magic with the finger :):):)

maybe you remember the mineoro pdc210,it is sensitive when touching the ionic chamber and give signals,so this one very similar but much better 100x.

Morgan
11-23-2011, 09:26 PM
A capacitance nightmare!

capacitance is ONLY in the front of PDK,maybe one thing that you never understand,and i can say it works better with this capacitance(one way to put the coils in the limit)...

No capacitance,less distance in buried targets.

detectoman
11-24-2011, 04:29 AM
brodhito morgan what nice videos, then we need today the lrl whit direct image real time color vision monitor go make want an old sony camera

nelson
11-24-2011, 11:47 AM
Hi Morgan.
Just to say, congratulations for your dedicated and succesfull work on PDK.
Mine is stopped by now, cuse i had lots of things to do from octuber to mid december.
Best regards
Nelson


the front knob is the fine tuning,this make the device very sensitive.
it take more time to calibrate than using only the gain knob,but it worth the time.
the test was made in the same place where the silver bracelet is buried,but this time the ground is very wet,its raining days.

Aziz
11-24-2011, 12:40 PM
The latest videos show exactly, that the piece of crap isn't working.
:lol:

I'm sorry, but get ready to receive your well deserved ar$e kick right now.
:kick

If I were the owner of this forum, I personally would ban you all LRL scammers.
:D
Aziz

Morgan
11-25-2011, 01:06 AM
The latest videos show exactly, that the piece of crap isn't working.
:lol:

I'm sorry, but get ready to receive your well deserved ar$e kick right now.
:kick

If I were the owner of this forum, I personally would ban you all LRL scammers.
:D
Aziz

Hi AbdelAziz,your words sounds to me JEALOUS ???in my country we say DOR DE COTOVELO ;)

Morgan
11-25-2011, 01:07 AM
The latest videos show exactly, that the piece of crap isn't working.
:lol:

I'm sorry, but get ready to receive your well deserved ar$e kick right now.
:kick

If I were the owner of this forum, I personally would ban you all LRL scammers.
:D
Aziz

In spanish DOLOR DE COTOVELO

Morgan
11-25-2011, 01:09 AM
The latest videos show exactly, that the piece of crap isn't working.
:lol:

I'm sorry, but get ready to receive your well deserved ar$e kick right now.
:kick

If I were the owner of this forum, I personally would ban you all LRL scammers.
:D
Aziz

In anglosaxonic language HELLBOW PAIN

this are three kicks in your a-s-s :D

Aziz
11-25-2011, 02:25 AM
It's really time, that you all LRL rats gets pi$$ed off from this site. So you can not spread any B$ and can not use this forum as a promotion site anymore.

Ready to get
:kick

Aziz

nelson
11-25-2011, 03:00 AM
¡No comments!

Morgan, just keep doing experiments on pdk and don`t waist your time reading non sense comments.
Good luck
Nelson


It's really time, that you all LRL rats gets pi$$ed off from this site. So you can not spread any B$ and can not use this forum as a promotion site anymore.

Ready to get
:kick

Aziz

Aziz
11-25-2011, 03:22 PM
¡No comments!

Morgan, just keep doing experiments on pdk and don`t waist your time reading non sense comments.
Good luck
Nelson

You just deserve the same thing:
:kick

Aziz

Sood
01-01-2012, 08:45 PM
Hello! Happy New Year. I wish the new year reach greater heights and even more productive year in development ...
Morgan, I appeal to you for help as a specialist in the development of LRL equipment ...
I live in Ukraine, is the center of Europe. Our state has a long history and has a huge amount of buried treasure. I am 27 years old and I many years looking for the treasure, but without professional equipment finding it hard. We have not sold in Ukraine does LRL
equipment, and it is not possible to buy ...
Acquire MINEORO - scary high price. In the construction of the electronics I do not understand that most do LRL. Morgan asking for your help! Perhaps the order and buy from you PDK? If yes then let me know please.
Sincerely Alex.
Sood@meta.ua
Sorry for my English, used a translator ...
P.S. If anyone can help me get LRL, please, please ...

detectoman
01-02-2012, 03:04 AM
happy new years to all, and succes in the new lrl prospections and making lrl strange stuff atentamente desde mexico detectozorrillos

daryo
02-05-2012, 07:47 PM
Heavily compressed to reduce size.
thank you for this very nice video
if some one want to buy this unit ,how to start order one of it and can you tell me how much it price ?
thanks a lot

maimoune
02-11-2012, 03:58 PM
Hi...
Congratulations for those last two videos PDK_2
Best Wishes

ercan
10-11-2012, 04:11 PM
Hi Morgan,

Your PDK been mineoro?

humhum
10-11-2012, 11:09 PM
Hi Morgan,

Your PDK been mineoro?


Ercan Mineoro is LRL , but this is PDK !!!:nono:

Morgan
10-12-2012, 01:15 AM
Ercan Mineoro is LRL , but this is PDK !!!:nono:

Well,PDK is also LRL.

humhum
10-12-2012, 07:29 PM
Well,PDK is also LRL.

Yes Morgan PDK is LRL , but I know that is for short distance, few meters.
But LRL so like Mineoro find from 1.312yd / 1.200 m , very Long Range distance.

Morgan
10-12-2012, 11:29 PM
Yes Morgan PDK is LRL , but I know that is for short distance, few meters.
But LRL so like Mineoro find from 1.312yd / 1.200 m , very Long Range distance.

Hello

I have MINEORO models DC2006 and DC2008 , you are absolutly wrong my friend...

If the weater condition is good,they can pick a target at 4m to 8m,but the ability to pinpoint the target is not possible,you have sparzed signals in one area,then you need to use one MD to pinpoint.
Maybe in Brazil they work better...

dinyeper
10-15-2012, 12:35 PM
HUMHUM KARDEŞ merhaba seninle bi görüşelim sencede münasipse 05327129693.

dinyeper
10-15-2012, 01:33 PM
Hello

I have MINEORO models DC2006 and DC2008 , you are absolutly wrong my friend...

If the weater condition is good,they can pick a target at 4m to 8m,but the ability to pinpoint the target is not possible,you have sparzed signals in one area,then you need to use one MD to pinpoint.
Maybe in Brazil they work better...
Morgan what is the goog condition weather look like for mineoro work? Sunny,cloudy,rainy,after rain etc..? sorry for my bad english.I am from Turkey.

Morgan
10-15-2012, 04:03 PM
Morgan what is the goog condition weather look like for mineoro work? Sunny,cloudy,rainy,after rain etc..? sorry for my bad english.I am from Turkey.

They said less than 50% humidity,so the sunny days are good.

dinyeper
10-16-2012, 06:13 AM
I want a lrl which can detect just gold from 1 to 5 meter distance.But as I said ıt must just dedect gold.Is the mineoro enough for me? I have use omnitron gs,dfs but I have nothing with this device.I have just detct mineralizion with them.I ask everyone here Can you advice me a device that can detect gold from 1-5 meter distance?

Morgan
11-20-2012, 05:25 PM
They said less than 50% humidity,so the sunny days are good.

Some finds with PDK-2.1

old coin in bad condition

and a nice silver ring,maybe XVIII

I keep the films of objects recovering,they was located after the film was done ,i made other films with other not so nice finds but the recover of this two objects is very interesting. I will send to Qiaohzi the films,to put them here,not the way for PDK propaganda but to study the PHENOMENON and LRL´s reaction to old buried objects.
The films was made with humidity 80%,soil was very wet.
Distances + or - 6 m,deeps 15 cm,surface objects in not worked field.

18175

18176

18177

18178

Morgan
11-20-2012, 05:29 PM
They said less than 50% humidity,so the sunny days are good.

The coin

only one side is nice.

18179

Goldmaxx
11-20-2012, 09:26 PM
The coin

only one side is nice.

18179



Hi Morgan,

Congratulations, that looks very good, very beautiful items you've found
and above all a great success with your PDK in this distance to locate the objects and at the humidity.
Would that phenomenon bigger in dry soil?
I am very curious about the film.

best regards

Carlo Italy
11-20-2012, 10:29 PM
Hallo Morgan congratulations on your success of PDK2 and PDK3 ,I am Italian are interested of PDK2 or PDK3, you can contact me please carlo.chini@yahoo.it
I am sorry for the English language is not perfect
Thank you Carlo
Waiting for answer

Morgan
11-20-2012, 11:50 PM
Hallo Morgan congratulations on your success of PDK2 and PDK3 ,I am Italian are interested of PDK2 or PDK3, you can contact me please carlo.chini@yahoo.it
I am sorry for the English language is not perfect
Thank you Carlo
Waiting for answer

Hello Carlo

Unfortunatly i not sell more PDK´s,but you can ask some who have it and maybe they can sell one for you.

The fact that PDK is working fine in my country not means it will work the same in Italy or other country. Experiences and many tests sugest that PHENOMENON as variations according countries...

Anyway the PDK-2.1 still a good LRL

Regards

Morgan
11-20-2012, 11:59 PM
Hi Morgan,

Congratulations, that looks very good, very beautiful items you've found
and above all a great success with your PDK in this distance to locate the objects and at the humidity.
Would that phenomenon bigger in dry soil?
I am very curious about the film.

best regards

I think distances are more or less the same,but when the field is extremly wet make PDK confused,or not locate very well.

I already sent the films to Qiaozhi.
there are films locating the targets(the areas was previous located with my PDK before the film was made).
I also

Morgan
11-21-2012, 12:05 AM
I think distances are more or less the same,but when the field is extremly wet make PDK confused,or not locate very well.

I already sent the films to Qiaozhi.
there are films locating the targets(the areas was previous located with my PDK before the film was made).
I also

Also made the films after remove the objects ,and you can see the PDK not give signals in the area after that.

The accurate PINPOINT was made with MD GoldMaxx, it was easy to find the objects,becouse was near ground surface,the place not was plouged or worked by tractors since 40 years ago,is a nice place to make PDK searches.
After PDK ,i use the MD and found other three coins and objects all of copper.

Morgan
11-21-2012, 12:12 AM
Hi Morgan,

Congratulations, that looks very good, very beautiful items you've found
and above all a great success with your PDK in this distance to locate the objects and at the humidity.
Would that phenomenon bigger in dry soil?
I am very curious about the film.

best regards

I´m not sure if this is a ring,it looks some silver object maybe XVIII or XIX century,but if its a ring,what a strange ring,never saw this type before.
There is a battlefield near,Napolionic 1812 war,maybe its french,and maybe the ring was to use with gloves.Its very nice and all worked,good quality silver.

dinyeper
11-21-2012, 05:48 AM
Congratulations morgan ıt is a good antoninus coin and ıt is not rare but pdk is rare:)

Barbarossa
11-21-2012, 12:36 PM
hello morgan.congratulations for the new finds.aw you know iam owner of pdk 2 from you.i send it to jimmys place for tests.i hope to work also.or i must have the pdk 2.1.greatings from greece

Qiaozhi
11-21-2012, 11:21 PM
Old coin.

Qiaozhi
11-21-2012, 11:38 PM
Silver ring.

Qiaozhi
11-21-2012, 11:43 PM
Test after removing ring and refilling hole.

Qiaozhi
11-21-2012, 11:48 PM
Test after removing coin and refilling hole.

Morgan
11-22-2012, 03:22 PM
hello morgan.congratulations for the new finds.aw you know iam owner of pdk 2 from you.i send it to jimmys place for tests.i hope to work also.or i must have the pdk 2.1.greatings from greece

Hello

Diferences of PDK-2 or PDK-2.1 are the transistors values and the diodes,that makes the 2.1 more sensitive and stable than the PDK-2

BTW : the videos os this finds was post in RS PROJECT, I think administration decision...


Regards

Morgan
11-22-2012, 03:29 PM
Congratulations morgan ıt is a good antoninus coin and ıt is not rare but pdk is rare:)

I dont know why this rom coin was found there. The place is not archeologic,no rom remains...
The field belongs to neighbor who alowd me to search there.

This means ,sometimes we can find nice objects in places that not make any sense,its unpredictable.

Qiaozhi
11-22-2012, 04:14 PM
BTW : the videos os this finds was post in RS PROJECT, I think administration decision...
Would you like me to move the videos to this thread?

I posted them in the RS Project forum following your post there, where you said "I made a new film with PDK-2.1 locate the gold medalion,i send to Qiaohzi post here.".

BENZINAS
11-22-2012, 04:18 PM
Hello

Diferences of PDK-2 or PDK-2.1 are the transistors values and the diodes,that makes the 2.1 more sensitive and stable than the PDK-2

BTW : the videos os this finds was post in RS PROJECT, I think administration decision...


Regards
Αnd what about sensetivity of pdk 2.2 ? it's better from pdk 2.1 ? what is your opinion my friend ?

Morgan
11-22-2012, 04:27 PM
Would you like me to move the videos to this thread?

I posted them in the RS Project forum following your post there, where you said "I made a new film with PDK-2.1 locate the gold medalion,i send to Qiaohzi post here.".

yes,if is possible
but the video PDK-2.1 locating the gold medalion ,this one can stay in RS project


Thanks

Morgan
11-22-2012, 04:46 PM
Αnd what about sensetivity of pdk 2.2 ? it's better from pdk 2.1 ? what is your opinion my friend ?

As i told,the PDK-2.2 is the LRL that needs special and extremly dificult calibration ,after well calibrated is able to locate the targets same as PDK-2.1 or even better for the small gold, but i´m talking about field tests made here,in other countries results can be diferent.
Only three PDK-2.2 was made,one was mine(already sold).
If the person who is using this LRL cant calibrate it correctly ,is not possible to locate the targets,even the big objects,becouse this device needs calibration to the point that it starts locating the metals in front of the coil,at the same time that it happens great capacitance in the front batteries box.Anyway the voltage regulator keep constant calibration most of the time.With this is possible to locate 1,5V spark at only 60 cm.
PDK-2.1 is more simple to operate,but need constant Fine Tuning calibration,maybe each 5 or 10 minutes of search we need to check the front knob by touching,to keep the high level of sensitivity.
with this LRL is possible to locate 1,5V spark at 1,20m or sometimes 2,00m.

Qiaozhi
11-22-2012, 06:42 PM
yes,if is possible
but the video PDK-2.1 locating the gold medalion ,this one can stay in RS project


Thanks
See posts 142 to 145.

MIJ
11-22-2012, 10:46 PM
I´m not sure if this is a ring,it looks some silver object maybe XVIII or XIX century,but if its a ring,what a strange ring,never saw this type before.
There is a battlefield near,Napolionic 1812 war,maybe its french,and maybe the ring was to use with gloves.Its very nice and all worked,good quality silver.

Great finds Morgan.

I think this is definitely a finger ring and is hand made and chased I would say about 16 to17th century?

The roman coin is also a good find.

Congratulations for a very well made video showing pinpointing the finds also showing there was no signal after retrieving the finds and filling holes.

I’m still looking forward to getting time to go searching again with my PDK - 2

Best regards

Morgan
11-22-2012, 11:33 PM
Great finds Morgan.

I think this is definitely a finger ring and is hand made and chased I would say about 16 to17th century?

The roman coin is also a good find.

Congratulations for a very well made video showing pinpointing the finds also showing there was no signal after retrieving the finds and filling holes.

I’m still looking forward to getting time to go searching again with my PDK - 2

Best regards



Thanks for clarifications about the ring.

Hope the PHENOMENON grows very big in UK and you have nice finds with your PDK.

Regards

Geo
11-23-2012, 05:58 AM
Hi Morgan.
Again congratulation for your good work!!!!
:):)

jimys
11-23-2012, 07:20 AM
hi morgan

congrats for your findings and for your good working pdk's.


my friend benzinas
when you are close to a real target you be sure you dig it dont worry be searching

WM6
11-23-2012, 12:46 PM
My dear dreamers, you are so excited and happy with "phenomenon", which is to some others horror fear:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?17287-field-test-unit-no-001-quot-model-T-quot&p=161249#post161249

BENZINAS
11-23-2012, 03:52 PM
My dear dreamers, you are so excited and happy with "phenomenon", which is to some others horror fear:

http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?17287-field-test-unit-no-001-quot-model-T-quot&p=161249#post161249
Εxplain your words my friend !!!

WM6
11-23-2012, 04:54 PM
Εxplain your words my friend !!!



I hope our friend J_P will give us one if his excellent explanation in this matter.

But in short: technology we use in PD, PDK, PDxy, is limited by its physical laws. Sorry to say, but "No magic there!". If you are lucky, you can detect Earth field anomalies at couple of meters at best, like unwillingly happen to moodz at Geotech.

There is no "LRL way" on PDx way. That this is true recognize between the lines our friend Morgan too. Read carefully in try to understand his words:

"As i told,the PDK-2.2 is the LRL that needs special and extremly dificult calibration ,after well calibrated is able to locate the targets same as PDK-2.1 or even better for the small gold, but i´m talking about field tests made here,in other countries results can be diferent."

Well known excuse if something is not working as we expected.

Why it is so "extremely difficult"?

Cause it is extremely difficult to find something by accident (which is only PDx possibilities) and do not mislead yourself at the same time.

jimys
11-23-2012, 08:39 PM
hi wm6

we maybe died by accident
but we still live

humhum
11-23-2012, 08:44 PM
Congratulation Morgan, very best video and PD device.


Best Regards.

Morgan
11-23-2012, 11:15 PM
I hope our friend J_P will give us one if his excellent explanation in this matter.

But in short: technology we use in PD, PDK, PDxy, is limited by its physical laws. Sorry to say, but "No magic there!". If you are lucky, you can detect Earth field anomalies at couple of meters at best, like unwillingly happen to moodz at Geotech.

There is no "LRL way" on PDx way. That this is true recognize between the lines our friend Morgan too. Read carefully in try to understand his words:

"As i told,the PDK-2.2 is the LRL that needs special and extremly dificult calibration ,after well calibrated is able to locate the targets same as PDK-2.1 or even better for the small gold, but i´m talking about field tests made here,in other countries results can be diferent."

Well known excuse if something is not working as we expected.

Why it is so "extremely difficult"?

Cause it is extremely difficult to find something by accident (which is only PDx possibilities) and do not mislead yourself at the same time.

until now what i understand is that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according the countries,i´m in contact with all the persons who are using PDK´s and know about most of the finds and of course about some of them who still trying to find something valuable.
The buried noble metals if many years underground create THE ANOMALIE you are talking about,and a very sensitive and well tuned Electromagnetic Field Locator can locate this anomalie,that is what is called here THE LONG RANGE LOCATORS.

humhum
11-23-2012, 11:48 PM
Hi Morgan , what is the different between PDK-2.1 and PDK-2.2 , Do works so like electrostatic or Ionic Receiver device with regular MD ??. ;)

Goldmaxx
11-24-2012, 12:38 AM
Hi Morgan,

my congratulations to your PDK. The device seems to work really perfect.
The videos are really excellent. I think it's great that you also show the before and after test.
So I must say I am really excited about your PDK.
That's the best I've seen so far of this topic.

Much continued success.

best regards

elhit29
11-24-2012, 06:39 AM
HI MORGAN,,

INTERESTING FINAL REMARK YOU MADE IN THE PDK VIDEOS FROM MORGAN WHEN YOU SAID:

"until now what i understand is that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according the countries,i´m in contact with all the persons who are using PDK´s and know about most of the finds and of course about some of them who still trying to find something valuable.
The buried noble metals if many years underground create THE ANOMALIES you are talking about,and a very sensitive and well tuned Electromagnetic Field Locator can locate this anomalie,that is what is called here THE LONG RANGE LOCATORS"

MY QUESTION: IF THE ANOMALIES IS CONSIDERED TO BE A LOCAL VARIATION IN THE EARTH's MAGNETIC FIELD, AND YOU SAID "that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according to the countries", THEN ARE YOU SURE THAT THE VERY SENSITIVE AND WELL TUNED ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD LOCATOR WILL CERTAINLY DETECT ALL SPECTRUM OF PHENOMENON INTENSITY ANYWHERE ON EARTH WITHOUT THE INVENTOR's INTERFERENCE TO TRY TO CHANGE ANY CALIBRATION OF THE MACHINE FROM THE INSIDE??? I MEAN IS THE MACHINE IS ONLY USER-DEPENDENT ANYWHERE NO MATTER WHERE YOUR COUNTRY IS...

REGARDS,

J_Player
11-24-2012, 02:04 PM
HI MORGAN,,

INTERESTING FINAL REMARK YOU MADE IN THE PDK VIDEOS FROM MORGAN WHEN YOU SAID:

"until now what i understand is that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according the countries,i´m in contact with all the persons who are using PDK´s and know about most of the finds and of course about some of them who still trying to find something valuable.
The buried noble metals if many years underground create THE ANOMALIES you are talking about,and a very sensitive and well tuned Electromagnetic Field Locator can locate this anomalie,that is what is called here THE LONG RANGE LOCATORS"

MY QUESTION: IF THE ANOMALIES IS CONSIDERED TO BE A LOCAL VARIATION IN THE EARTH's MAGNETIC FIELD, AND YOU SAID "that there are variations in PHENOMENON intensity according to the countries", THEN ARE YOU SURE THAT THE VERY SENSITIVE AND WELL TUNED ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD LOCATOR WILL CERTAINLY DETECT ALL SPECTRUM OF PHENOMENON INTENSITY ANYWHERE ON EARTH WITHOUT THE INVENTOR's INTERFERENCE TO TRY TO CHANGE ANY CALIBRATION OF THE MACHINE FROM THE INSIDE??? I MEAN IS THE MACHINE IS ONLY USER-DEPENDENT ANYWHERE NO MATTER WHERE YOUR COUNTRY IS...

REGARDS,I also have a question
Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field?
I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is.
The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place.

The first description of a "phenomenon" I ever heard was from metal detectorists who said they had an extra strong signal when using their metal detector, then they dig up an old metal item and they find the signal is back to normal strength after the metal is out of the ground. They called it "halo". But they never described any kind of physical field which caused that "phenomenon".

The second description of "phenomenon" came from the people at the Mineooro LRL factory, who said the "Phenomenon" was caused by gold ions "crashing" as they neutralized, and using the energy of the "crash" to transport the ions to the ion chamber in their LRL:
Originally posted in Mineoro Advertising:
"So "ions" in movement, just them, would generate electrostatics. Although in an infinitely small phenomenom, micro, nano , pico, femto or atto phenomenom, the electrostatic phenomenom occurs as well. It is a electrostatics with the characteristic of the substance created by it. The negative "ion", in our case, gold "ion" brings the energy which will tranport it. The "ion" itself generates that transporting energy. This explains the substance classifier. When the negative "ion" finds its twin of opposite polarity, they love each other so intensively, that when they get together they provoke a short-circuit auto-destroy themselves. As in the Romeo and Juliet movie, both of them die, but the proof of their
death is a flask of poison near them; in the same way, our "passionate ions" also leave a proof of their death in "emiting a crash", which generates an electrical signal so fast as nano, pico, femto or atto seconds , detectable in sensitive electronic circuits and projected for
this aim. The classifier just filters the negative 'ions", twin pairs of positivie "ions" produced by the classifier. To this phenomenom, Alonso (60) and Damásio (70) gave the name of "Substance Classifier" or just "Classifier". This denomination was necessary to differentiate from the expression "discrimination", commonly used in other systems of detection
by electromagnetic waves. About the "classifier" it is good to inform that it is possible to manufacture classifiers for other metal and non-metal substances. It is possible to classify blood in its kinds; plants and its kinds; drugs and its kinds, etc. at long distance. That is why we announced in the media that we are talking about A MODERN INVENTION".

So now we have one explanation from Mineoro, which is an explanation that most educated people know does not make any sense.
We know gold ions are not traveling through the air long distances to enter a sealed ion chamber and cause the Mineoro cheap transistors to sense pico, femto or atto-second electronic noise.
Later events revealed that the Mineoro locators have a regenerative broadband receiver inside which responds to charged plastic markers placed on the ground and hidden transmitters which cause them to beep.

If not gold ions traveling through the air, then what is the "phenomenon"?
We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance...
Originally posted by Dell Winders:
"That's NOT my theory, and never what I based any field studies on. I never heard of the Ion theory until I seen it discussed on Geotech by the Scientific pretenders.
I doubt that you have noticed that I have a tendency to lean towards metering concentrations of the earths magnetic field surrounding near surface anomalies". http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=91684&postcount=127

Magnetic field anomaly?
I don't think so.
If this "phenomenon" is a magnetic field anomaly, then any geologist would be able to find it with his magnetometer or a gradiometer.
But they don't find these alleged magnetic field anomalies where there is a gold coin buried.

If not gold ions traveling through the air, and not a magnetic anomaly, then what else could the "phenomenon" be?
According to some experimenters, buried metals send out acoustic and electronic "vibrations" which can be heard with a sensitive enough microphone, or with ultra low frequency radio receivers, or even with dowsing rods. Some MFD users say they can cause the buried metal to become detectable by setting up a transmitter which sends out an electronic frequency which is the same as for the element that they are looking for. They keep lists of frequencies to use to find different elements, such as gold, silver, diamond, drugs, etc.
This also sounds like pseudoscience, because it has no basis in science, and it has nobody who will demonstrate their MFD generators working to recover hidden treasures which they do not know the location of.

It seems we are left with a lot of people talking about "the phenomenon is real", yet they cannot tell you what the "phenomenon" is.
They cannot even describe the properties of this alleged "phenomenon".
For this reason, I would not believe anyone who told me it is a magnetic anomaly unless they showed some evidence we could check to verify that it is indeed a magnetic anomaly.


Best wishes, :)
J_P

MIJ
11-24-2012, 05:58 PM
Ref: Morgan’s Latest Videos,

I think that this is like a breath of fresh air, because this is the first time I have seen a LRL actually do what it’s supposed to do “Find Quality targets buried in the ground form a considerable distance”

I personally have never seen any other LRL work so well, ok it needs to be tuned very sensitively “but it works”

I think Morgan is definitely on the right track with the PDK, and I’m sure he will improve on it over time.

Keep up the great work Morgan.;)

humhum
11-24-2012, 07:00 PM
I also have a question
Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field?
I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is.
The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place.

The first description of a "phenomenon" I ever heard was from metal detectorists who said they had an extra strong signal when using their metal detector, then they dig up an old metal item and they find the signal is back to normal strength after the metal is out of the ground. They called it "halo". But they never described any kind of physical field which caused that "phenomenon".

The second description of "phenomenon" came from the people at the Mineooro LRL factory, who said the "Phenomenon" was caused by gold ions "crashing" as they neutralized, and using the energy of the "crash" to transport the ions to the ion chamber in their LRL:
Originally posted in Mineoro Advertising:
"So "ions" in movement, just them, would generate electrostatics. Although in an infinitely small phenomenom, micro, nano , pico, femto or atto phenomenom, the electrostatic phenomenom occurs as well. It is a electrostatics with the characteristic of the substance created by it. The negative "ion", in our case, gold "ion" brings the energy which will tranport it. The "ion" itself generates that transporting energy. This explains the substance classifier. When the negative "ion" finds its twin of opposite polarity, they love each other so intensively, that when they get together they provoke a short-circuit auto-destroy themselves. As in the Romeo and Juliet movie, both of them die, but the proof of their
death is a flask of poison near them; in the same way, our "passionate ions" also leave a proof of their death in "emiting a crash", which generates an electrical signal so fast as nano, pico, femto or atto seconds , detectable in sensitive electronic circuits and projected for
this aim. The classifier just filters the negative 'ions", twin pairs of positivie "ions" produced by the classifier. To this phenomenom, Alonso (60) and Damásio (70) gave the name of "Substance Classifier" or just "Classifier". This denomination was necessary to differentiate from the expression "discrimination", commonly used in other systems of detection
by electromagnetic waves. About the "classifier" it is good to inform that it is possible to manufacture classifiers for other metal and non-metal substances. It is possible to classify blood in its kinds; plants and its kinds; drugs and its kinds, etc. at long distance. That is why we announced in the media that we are talking about A MODERN INVENTION".

So now we have one explanation from Mineoro, which is an explanation that most educated people know does not make any sense.
We know gold ions are not traveling through the air long distances to enter a sealed ion chamber and cause the Mineoro cheap transistors to sense pico, femto or atto-second electronic noise.
Later events revealed that the Mineoro locators have a regenerative broadband receiver inside which responds to charged plastic markers placed on the ground and hidden transmitters which cause them to beep.

If not gold ions traveling through the air, then what is the "phenomenon"?
We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance...
Originally posted by Dell Winders:
"That's NOT my theory, and never what I based any field studies on. I never heard of the Ion theory until I seen it discussed on Geotech by the Scientific pretenders.
I doubt that you have noticed that I have a tendency to lean towards metering concentrations of the earths magnetic field surrounding near surface anomalies". http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=91684&postcount=127

Magnetic field anomaly?
I don't think so.
If this "phenomenon" is a magnetic field anomaly, then any geologist would be able to find it with his magnetometer or a gradiometer.
But they don't find these alleged magnetic field anomalies where there is a gold coin buried.

If not gold ions traveling through the air, and not a magnetic anomaly, then what else could the "phenomenon" be?
According to some experimenters, buried metals send out acoustic and electronic "vibrations" which can be heard with a sensitive enough microphone, or with ultra low frequency radio receivers, or even with dowsing rods. Some MFD users say they can cause the buried metal to become detectable by setting up a transmitter which sends out an electronic frequency which is the same as for the element that they are looking for. They keep lists of frequencies to use to find different elements, such as gold, silver, diamond, drugs, etc.
This also sounds like pseudoscience, because it has no basis in science, and it has nobody who will demonstrate their MFD generators working to recover hidden treasures which they do not know the location of.

It seems we are left with a lot of people talking about "the phenomenon is real", yet they cannot tell you what the "phenomenon" is.
They cannot even describe the properties of this alleged "phenomenon".
For this reason, I would not believe anyone who told me it is a magnetic anomaly unless they showed some evidence we could check to verify that it is indeed a magnetic anomaly.


Best wishes, :)
J_P

Hi J_Player, if "Phenomenon" was caused by gold ions "crashing" as they neutralized, and using the energy of the "crash" to transport the ions,
Maybe gold send strong photon light with acoustic vibrations, because one madel of Alonso have (use) eye (IR Trans. or IR Led) for receiving.

Regards.

J_Player
11-24-2012, 07:21 PM
Hi J_Player, if "Phenomenon" was caused by gold ions "crashing" as they neutralized, and using the energy of the "crash" to transport the ions,
Maybe gold send strong photon light with acoustic vibrations, because one madel of Alonso have (use) eye (IR Trans. or IR Led) for receiving.

Regards.Hi humhim,
There are three problems with that theory.

1. No Gold Ions
There are no ions of gold at the surface of the ground or in the air. This was proved by scientists who measured to find where the gold ions are. The only gold ions they found were under the ground, 10 cm and deeper, and these ions are in the parts per trillion amounts. These ions in the ground cannot be measured unless you dig a soil sample and take it to a laboratory, then make an assay of the soil with some very sophisticated instruments. When these ions move near the surface of the ground, they neutralize and become a microscopic gold metal particle. And they remain particles even after they reach the surface of the ground. Some of these microscopic gold particles blow in the wind into the air, where they can be measured in the parts per trillion concentration. But scientists cannot find any gold ions in the air. The microscopic gold metal particles in the air, and in the ground, and the sea water are not ions. They have neutral charge because they are part of a neutral metal lattice, not ions in solution.

2. No ions means no photons, No IR interactions from ion "crashes"
Knowing that there are no gold ions on the surface of the ground or in the air, we can determine that there are no gold ions neutralizing on the surface of the ground or in the air, and there is no "crash". A solid gold particle does not send strong photon light from within the gold. The only light we get from a gold particle is light that is reflected from another light source, or if we heat the gold so hot that it begins to glow from the heat. When we are looking for buried gold, any light from an artificial source, or from a gold ion is blocked by the soil, which prevents visible and NIR light from passing above the ground where it can be seen from the surface. Therefore, we can see that light from the NIR LEDs on Mineoro locators is blocked from direct exposure to gold ions because the nearest possible gold ion is buried 10 cm below the ground. The IR LED can only be shined on the surface of gold that is above the ground, not under the ground. Since the only gold above the ground is gold metal, there is no ionic activity or photons coming from the neutral gold metal.

3. Femto, atto second electronic noises cannot be measured without special equipments
The femto and atto second electronic pulses which Alonso talks about cannot be measured with the cheap signal transistors he uses in his locators. When we are trying to measure the electronic noise of chemical ions neutralizing, we generally put probes into a strong liquid solution where the ions are concentrated, and we use a very sensitive low-noise instrument to record the electronic noise from the ionic activity. But the ions which Alonso claims are causing his locators to beep are not in a strong liquid solution where we have probes submerged, and connected to a low-noise instrument. The ions Alonso talked about were measured in parts per trillion concentration, at a long distance from where we want to detect them, and they are buried at least 10 cm. The signal to noise ratio is way to far exceeded to measure these ions from long distance, even if we placed probes in the ground to measure them. The only way I could imagine is to go to a known location of buried metal which corrodes more than gold, such as copper. Then seed the ground with an acid which is known to corrode copper and push in some probes within 10 cm of the buried copper. In this condition, you may have a chance to measure the electronic noise from the copper ions changing to metal, and back to ions. But you would need some very sophisticated lab instruments to connect the probes to. And you would need some luck too. I think you would have a hard time to measure any ion electronic noise. To measure the electronic noise from buried gold ions from a distance is thousands of times more difficult than for copper, which commonly can make thousands of times more ions in the ground.

To detect this noise from a distance with IR...
I would like for someone to explain how it is possible, when we have parts per trillion of gold ions buried 10 cm and deeper under the ground.
I don't need to hear anecdotal stories about how it is really, really working, because it is not.
We already saw the performance of the Mineoro IR models. I believe they only work with hidden transmitters.
Simply explain what exactly the IR LED is detecting.
I know for a fact there is no light from a near IR LED shining on a buried gold ion.


Best Wishes, :)
J_P

WM6
11-24-2012, 09:26 PM
Ref: Morgan’s Latest Videos,

I think that this is like a breath of fresh air, because this is the first time I have seen a LRL actually do what it’s supposed to do “Find Quality targets buried in the ground form a considerable distance”



Hi MIJ, problem of such "fresh air" is that Morgan know, where his testing pieces are buried. This fact make his test invalid. So nothing of fresh air. All already seen.

I am not trying to accuse Morgan as liar or scamer, but for me, he is evidently in self-deception. Technology used and video do not prove nothing more than that "PDK way" is one more of self-deception.

Par example for thinking: Did video prove that terrain is 100% clear of other metallic parts and only testing parts are there in soil? No, it is impossible to 100% clear such terrain near the resorts. Why then no other part of there existing metallic parts are detected except his testing parts? Answer is simple: cause he know where his testing parts are buried. And this is not "fresh air", this is many times seen and repeated mistake of LRL constructors.

Sorry to say, but this Morgan videos cannot convince me in LRL capabilities of his PDK. PDK cannot pass serious tests, too many excuse (like country specific conditions) on horizon.

Morgan
11-25-2012, 12:14 AM
Hi Morgan , what is the different between PDK-2.1 and PDK-2.2 , Do works so like electrostatic or Ionic Receiver device with regular MD ??. ;)

No,both using the Alonsos Passive Receiver,and modifications,this is Electromagnetic Field Locators PDK-2.1 and 2.2

PDK-3 ,this one is the IONIC/ELECTROSTATIC

Morgan
11-25-2012, 12:27 AM
I also have a question
Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field?
I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is.
The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place.

The first description of a "phenomenon" I ever heard was from metal detectorists who said they had an extra strong signal when using their metal detector, then they dig up an old metal item and they find the signal is back to normal strength after the metal is out of the ground. They called it "halo". But they never described any kind of physical field which caused that "phenomenon".

The second description of "phenomenon" came from the people at the Mineooro LRL factory, who said the "Phenomenon" was caused by gold ions "crashing" as they neutralized, and using the energy of the "crash" to transport the ions to the ion chamber in their LRL:
Originally posted in Mineoro Advertising:
"So "ions" in movement, just them, would generate electrostatics. Although in an infinitely small phenomenom, micro, nano , pico, femto or atto phenomenom, the electrostatic phenomenom occurs as well. It is a electrostatics with the characteristic of the substance created by it. The negative "ion", in our case, gold "ion" brings the energy which will tranport it. The "ion" itself generates that transporting energy. This explains the substance classifier. When the negative "ion" finds its twin of opposite polarity, they love each other so intensively, that when they get together they provoke a short-circuit auto-destroy themselves. As in the Romeo and Juliet movie, both of them die, but the proof of their
death is a flask of poison near them; in the same way, our "passionate ions" also leave a proof of their death in "emiting a crash", which generates an electrical signal so fast as nano, pico, femto or atto seconds , detectable in sensitive electronic circuits and projected for
this aim. The classifier just filters the negative 'ions", twin pairs of positivie "ions" produced by the classifier. To this phenomenom, Alonso (60) and Damásio (70) gave the name of "Substance Classifier" or just "Classifier". This denomination was necessary to differentiate from the expression "discrimination", commonly used in other systems of detection
by electromagnetic waves. About the "classifier" it is good to inform that it is possible to manufacture classifiers for other metal and non-metal substances. It is possible to classify blood in its kinds; plants and its kinds; drugs and its kinds, etc. at long distance. That is why we announced in the media that we are talking about A MODERN INVENTION".

So now we have one explanation from Mineoro, which is an explanation that most educated people know does not make any sense.
We know gold ions are not traveling through the air long distances to enter a sealed ion chamber and cause the Mineoro cheap transistors to sense pico, femto or atto-second electronic noise.
Later events revealed that the Mineoro locators have a regenerative broadband receiver inside which responds to charged plastic markers placed on the ground and hidden transmitters which cause them to beep.

If not gold ions traveling through the air, then what is the "phenomenon"?
We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance...
Originally posted by Dell Winders:
"That's NOT my theory, and never what I based any field studies on. I never heard of the Ion theory until I seen it discussed on Geotech by the Scientific pretenders.
I doubt that you have noticed that I have a tendency to lean towards metering concentrations of the earths magnetic field surrounding near surface anomalies". http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=91684&postcount=127

Magnetic field anomaly?
I don't think so.
If this "phenomenon" is a magnetic field anomaly, then any geologist would be able to find it with his magnetometer or a gradiometer.
But they don't find these alleged magnetic field anomalies where there is a gold coin buried.

If not gold ions traveling through the air, and not a magnetic anomaly, then what else could the "phenomenon" be?
According to some experimenters, buried metals send out acoustic and electronic "vibrations" which can be heard with a sensitive enough microphone, or with ultra low frequency radio receivers, or even with dowsing rods. Some MFD users say they can cause the buried metal to become detectable by setting up a transmitter which sends out an electronic frequency which is the same as for the element that they are looking for. They keep lists of frequencies to use to find different elements, such as gold, silver, diamond, drugs, etc.
This also sounds like pseudoscience, because it has no basis in science, and it has nobody who will demonstrate their MFD generators working to recover hidden treasures which they do not know the location of.

It seems we are left with a lot of people talking about "the phenomenon is real", yet they cannot tell you what the "phenomenon" is.
They cannot even describe the properties of this alleged "phenomenon".
For this reason, I would not believe anyone who told me it is a magnetic anomaly unless they showed some evidence we could check to verify that it is indeed a magnetic anomaly.


Best wishes, :)
J_P

yes,is magnetic anomaly,is very interesting when for example two silver coins are buried 3 meters from each other,the signal in PDK is confused and looks like a big area,this very dificult to pinpoint,much better when object is isolated,as you see in this videos.

Morgan
11-25-2012, 12:38 AM
Hi MIJ, problem of such "fresh air" is that Morgan know, where his testing pieces are buried. This fact make his test invalid. So nothing of fresh air. All already seen.

I am not trying to accuse Morgan as liar or scamer, but for me, he is evidently in self-deception. Technology used and video do not prove nothing more than that "PDK way" is one more of self-deception.

Par example for thinking: Did video prove that terrain is 100% clear of other metallic parts and only testing parts are there in soil? No, it is impossible to 100% clear such terrain near the resorts. Why then no other part of there existing metallic parts are detected except his testing parts? Answer is simple: cause he know where his testing parts are buried. And this is not "fresh air", this is many times seen and repeated mistake of LRL constructors.

Sorry to say, but this Morgan videos cannot convince me in LRL capabilities of his PDK. PDK cannot pass serious tests, too many excuse (like country specific conditions) on horizon.

COUNTRY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS

here is something realy strange that make me think that PHENOMENON as variations according countries. there is one person from Ukrain (Sood) is using the PDK-2.1 to search for WWII treasures,he told me to have very good PDK working during morning and part of the day,but after 16:00 H the PDK start locating never ending N-S lines,and he need to reduce a little the sensitivity to avoid this lines, this problem not happens in my country.
Why the N-S magnetic lines are not present all the time ???

J_Player
11-25-2012, 01:07 AM
yes,is magnetic anomaly,is very interesting when for example two silver coins are buried 3 meters from each other,the signal in PDK is confused and looks like a big area,this very dificult to pinpoint,much better when object is isolated,as you see in this videos.Hi Morgan,
I do not believe two buried silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other will create a magnetic anomaly.
I can think of some anomalies that silver coins can create which could be detectable, but not magnetic anomalies.

How did you conclude you found a magnetic anomaly when there are two silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other?
Did you check with a magnetometer to see that these coins are creating a magnetic anomaly?
Or did you just guess that silver coins make a magnetic anomaly because your locator becomes confused?


Best Wishes, :)
J_P

kostas87
11-25-2012, 12:42 PM
very good job!
very nice video!

Morgan
11-25-2012, 06:19 PM
Hi Morgan,
I do not believe two buried silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other will create a magnetic anomaly.
I can think of some anomalies that silver coins can create which could be detectable, but not magnetic anomalies.

How did you conclude you found a magnetic anomaly when there are two silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other?
Did you check with a magnetometer to see that these coins are creating a magnetic anomaly?
Or did you just guess that silver coins make a magnetic anomaly because your locator becomes confused?


Best Wishes, :)
J_P

MAGNETIC, DIAMAGNETIC and PARAMAGNETIC, not completely study,cientists need to learn much more...

Two years ago i was telling here about the PHENOMENON was located most of the times West to East and North to South,other times it as variations,but very rare to locate targets S to N. This hapens even with PDK-3 that still work without need of VHF waves.
Only recently i heard that Franco Italy(electrician Engeneer forum member) build one working LRL,and what he found? EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ,same experiences i have years ago when test the PDK-2. Recently he declare to have build one working LRL,I´m not alone ;)

Morgan
11-25-2012, 06:24 PM
MAGNETIC, DIAMAGNETIC and PARAMAGNETIC, not completely study,cientists need to learn much more...

Two years ago i was telling here about the PHENOMENON was located most of the times West to East and North to South,other times it as variations,but very rare to locate targets S to N. This hapens even with PDK-3 that still work without need of VHF waves.
Only recently i heard that Franco Italy(electrician Engeneer forum member) build one working LRL,and what he found? EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ,same experiences i have years ago when test the PDK-2. Recently he declare to have build one working LRL,I´m not alone ;)

Little silver object(fragment) was located only N to S and greater distance is E to W.

I ask Qiaozhi to post this interesting films here.

Morgan
11-25-2012, 06:38 PM
MAGNETIC, DIAMAGNETIC and PARAMAGNETIC, not completely study,cientists need to learn much more...

Two years ago i was telling here about the PHENOMENON was located most of the times West to East and North to South,other times it as variations,but very rare to locate targets S to N. This hapens even with PDK-3 that still work without need of VHF waves.
Only recently i heard that Franco Italy(electrician Engeneer forum member) build one working LRL,and what he found? EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ,same experiences i have years ago when test the PDK-2. Recently he declare to have build one working LRL,I´m not alone ;)


In the same day i locate other target,strong signal 8 m ,is West to East,near large stones,but i was not able to pinpoint the object ,need to use PI metal detector,other day i will dig.
I made films to.
In the ground is possible to see XIX century potery.

Geo
11-25-2012, 08:59 PM
Before some days a friend told me that he found a big silver coin with PDK 2.1. He had very strong signal. Also other persons at Greece found coins with PDK. This mean that the phenomenon exists.
Now i think that it is good time for understanding the phenomenon because FrancoItaly has an existing phenomenon at his test area (from a buried silver coin), and i believe he has a magnetic field meter so to see if the phenomenon is a magnetic field????
What you say Franco?????

Regards:)

goranspeed
11-25-2012, 09:25 PM
PDK is not working in Serbia.

FrancoItaly
11-25-2012, 10:04 PM
I Geo
I don't think that the Phenomenon is only magnetic, my Lrl has a telescopic antenna and then it's sensitive to electrical fields, more long is the antenna more sensitive is the Lrl. Your PDk has a not shielded coil and then it's sensitive to static E fields.

Best Regards

Morgan
11-25-2012, 11:01 PM
PDK is not working in Serbia.

As i told recently many times,and according your field reports,i came to conclusion that the PHENOMENON can be diferent in diferent countries,and as i told it needs calibration to limits to pick the little coins you looking for.
Anyway sure it will locate bigger targets,but you have the option to return back to me the PDK,i told you some time ago,remember ?

Regards

jimys
11-26-2012, 05:16 AM
Before some days a friend told me that he found a big silver coin with PDK 2.1. He had very strong signal. Also other persons at Greece found coins with PDK. This mean that the phenomenon exists.
Now i think that it is good time for understanding the phenomenon because FrancoItaly has an existing phenomenon at his test area (from a buried silver coin), and i believe he has a magnetic field meter so to see if the phenomenon is a magnetic field????
What you say Franco?????

Regards:)

and i comfirm thats words

dinyeper
11-26-2012, 06:32 AM
I know very well that if a few buried gold coins dispersed in a few meter distance the metal dedector can locate them in very deeper distance from the area which have just buried one coins.I know this very well because ı live this fact many times

Qiaozhi
11-26-2012, 09:03 AM
Metal detector with no signal.

goranspeed
11-26-2012, 12:37 PM
As i told recently many times,and according your field reports,i came to conclusion that the PHENOMENON can be diferent in diferent countries,and as i told it needs calibration to limits to pick the little coins you looking for.
Anyway sure it will locate bigger targets,but you have the option to return back to me the PDK,i told you some time ago,remember ?

Regards


Hi Morgan,
I tried everything with the PDK, but can not operate. If you set up a calibration to be very sensitive and starts crazy, and then it is impossible to detect anything with him. Not a lot of philosophy. One potentiometer turn around until the end, and the other to the limit of sensitivity. And that's it.
PDK is finished in the hands of one of electronics, to open it up and look at all whether something works.

Cheers

michael
11-26-2012, 03:22 PM
Metal detector with no signal.
Well, MD no signal for what???!!!! Isn't there any forgotten movie of PDK signal for this place?:rolleyes:

Morgan
11-26-2012, 05:00 PM
Metal detector with no signal.

Hello

And what about the other videos,didnt receive ?

I go to send them again.

Regards

Morgan
11-26-2012, 05:09 PM
Hi Morgan,
I tried everything with the PDK, but can not operate. If you set up a calibration to be very sensitive and starts crazy, and then it is impossible to detect anything with him. Not a lot of philosophy. One potentiometer turn around until the end, and the other to the limit of sensitivity. And that's it.
PDK is finished in the hands of one of electronics, to open it up and look at all whether something works.

Cheers

What maybe hapens was some damage to PDK during transportation to your country,this can make the PDK erratic during field operation..

If you give the PDK to open and copy(difficult task) not think that later i will receive it back,once it is opened i dont want it.
So,send it like it is,in working codition,and get your money back.
Everything is sealed and deleted components inside the PDK except the RX coil,what this electronic engeneer can do,a copy?
If PDK not work in Serbia,is not usefull LRL.

Regards

Morgan
11-26-2012, 05:16 PM
Hi Morgan,
I tried everything with the PDK, but can not operate. If you set up a calibration to be very sensitive and starts crazy, and then it is impossible to detect anything with him. Not a lot of philosophy. One potentiometer turn around until the end, and the other to the limit of sensitivity. And that's it.
PDK is finished in the hands of one of electronics, to open it up and look at all whether something works.

Cheers

You forget to use the TUNING knob to reduce tuning power when FINE TUNING in limits still giving you erratic signals. Becouse of this i use one turn potentiometer to control the TUNING power ,if no need to reduce power in this pot. sure i saving money using fixed resistors or a trimmer,much more cheap than the original single turn potentiometer.

Morgan
11-26-2012, 05:27 PM
Well, MD no signal for what???!!!! Isn't there any forgotten movie of PDK signal for this place?:rolleyes:

Hi Michael

Of course,there are a sequence of five movies,but actualy there is some problems with internet here.

Morgan
11-26-2012, 05:38 PM
Hi Morgan,
I tried everything with the PDK, but can not operate. If you set up a calibration to be very sensitive and starts crazy, and then it is impossible to detect anything with him. Not a lot of philosophy. One potentiometer turn around until the end, and the other to the limit of sensitivity. And that's it.
PDK is finished in the hands of one of electronics, to open it up and look at all whether something works.

Cheers

Return it like it is in this photo,and receive your money back.
To all PDK´s i sold,i allways take a photo of the inner box,this way is possible to see what was happening,coriousity or not...

Regards

18195

goranspeed
11-26-2012, 06:40 PM
What maybe hapens was some damage to PDK during transportation to your country,this can make the PDK erratic during field operation..

If you give the PDK to open and copy(difficult task) not think that later i will receive it back,once it is opened i dont want it.
So,send it like it is,in working codition,and get your money back.
Everything is sealed and deleted components inside the PDK except the RX coil,what this electronic engeneer can do,a copy?
If PDK not work in Serbia,is not usefull LRL.

Regards

Morgan, put a little ball on the ground. So it say to us, if you are nervous. I never blamed you for anything, but I'm just saying that your machine simply does not work for me. That's it. And of course, I will not pay you back, because I sold it. After all, I 450EUR means nothing, because I threw a lot of money for various things. I sincerely hope that someone will help the PDK.

PS Do not worry, no one's going to steal a license

Qiaozhi
11-27-2012, 03:27 PM
Missing videos ->

Morgan - It would be preferable if you could post any future videos yourself. You can do this by breaking the compressed file into smaller chunks using a program such as jZip (which is FREE).
During installation of jZip, select "Custom Installation" and turn off both Searchnu options. When you create the zip file, click on "More" and select "Split Archive (1.2MB chunks). I have increased the zip file size in the attachment manager to 1.2MB to allow this to work.
Thanks.

Morgan
11-27-2012, 03:50 PM
Missing videos ->

Morgan - It would be preferable if you could post any future videos yourself. You can do this by breaking the compressed file into smaller chunks using a program such as jZip (which is FREE).
During installation of jZip, select "Custom Installation" and turn off both Searchnu options. When you create the zip file, click on "More" and select "Split Archive (1.2MB chunks). I have increased the zip file size in the attachment manager to 1.2MB to allow this to work.
Thanks.

Video sequence is correct

Thanks

Morgan
11-27-2012, 03:55 PM
Video sequence is correct

Thanks

Well, pinpoint video is before the Test after remove the object,now the sequence is correct.


Ok,i will try to cut the films in parts of 1.2 Mb and post .


Regards

michael
11-27-2012, 06:07 PM
Hi Morgan. According to all posted movies here which I watched all carefully and frequently, can definitely conclude your PDK really works, I personally tell there is no fraud.
A real LRL or at least MRL. It looks a nice detector with very stable, constant and repeatable signals Which indicate a reliable detector. Accept my best congratulations and hails to you which is from my deep heart feeling. :) Finally some hard persevering man appeared and made a good stable LRL and the better sells it to share it with other people.:cool:

Now where are strict skeptics to answer to this fist ?:D

Geo
11-27-2012, 10:11 PM
Hi Morgan. According to all posted movies here which I watched all carefully and frequently, can definitely conclude your PDK really works, I personally tell there is no fraud.
A real LRL or at least MRL. It looks a nice detector with very stable, constant and repeatable signals Which indicate a reliable detector. Accept my best congratulations and hails to you which is from my deep heart feeling. :) Finally some hard persevering man appeared and made a good stable LRL and the better sells it to share it with other people.:cool:

Now where are strict skeptics to answer to this fist ?:D

Hi Michael.
Skeptics don't read this and don't spent their time to see videos :lol::lol::lol::lol:.

Regards:)

Morgan
11-27-2012, 11:58 PM
Hi Morgan. According to all posted movies here which I watched all carefully and frequently, can definitely conclude your PDK really works, I personally tell there is no fraud.
A real LRL or at least MRL. It looks a nice detector with very stable, constant and repeatable signals Which indicate a reliable detector. Accept my best congratulations and hails to you which is from my deep heart feeling. :) Finally some hard persevering man appeared and made a good stable LRL and the better sells it to share it with other people.:cool:

Now where are strict skeptics to answer to this fist ?:D

Hi Michael and Geo

One day all the mistery around working LRL´s and the PHENOMENON will be cientificaly proved...

WM6
11-28-2012, 12:49 AM
Now where are strict skeptics to answer to this fist ?:D




Blind believers do not need answers. They even do not read answers, cause they are blind.

michael
11-28-2012, 12:07 PM
Blind believers do not need answers. They even do not read answers, cause they are blind.
Don't distort statements, right is this : Blind Skeptics can't answer, they even don't open their eyes, cause they are blind. :D ;)

WM6
11-28-2012, 12:51 PM
Don't distort statements, right is this : Blind Skeptics can't answer, they even don't open their eyes, cause they are blind. :D ;)


You forgot that "blind skeptics" do not even exist.

If "blind skeptics" existed, they would have been blind believers, but they are not, cause they are simple skeptics with very open eyes and mind.

But skeptics strictly advocated double blind test, which is nightmare to blind believers.

Sneshko
11-28-2012, 01:35 PM
Dear Friends!
It is not advisable to be blind.
Not at all!
Lol

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4687/intenet1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/intenet1.jpg/)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6196/internet2l.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/internet2l.jpg/)

Regards!
Sneshko

goranspeed
11-28-2012, 02:11 PM
Sneshko Wow, I'd given up his treasures, one of the two in the picture.:razz:

Morgan
11-28-2012, 04:10 PM
Dear Friends!
It is not advisable to be blind.
Not at all!
Lol

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4687/intenet1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/intenet1.jpg/)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6196/internet2l.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/internet2l.jpg/)

Regards!
Sneshko

Nice PDK propaganda ;)

but i thought PDK cant work in the ocean and salt water...

Geo
11-28-2012, 04:19 PM
You forgot that "blind skeptics" do not even exist.

If "blind skeptics" existed, they would have been blind believers, but they are not, cause they are simple skeptics with very open eyes and mind.

But skeptics strictly advocated double blind test, which is nightmare to blind believers.


Every sceptic can go to Morgan place and make double or triplle test. No problem for blind test if you construct a place with phenomenon.
Morgan called all of you but not response. You like to seat at your armchair and to write as the "big sceptics" but you don't know nothing.
Every time that you will say again for Randi test the answer will be simple, "go to Morgan for test".

Geo
11-28-2012, 04:21 PM
Nice PDK propaganda ;)

but i thought PDK cant work in the ocean and salt water...

Don't say this.....:lol:
Maybe it is time to hear the sceptics about the existing the phenomenon inside the water or not.
I think that i know the answer :lol::lol:

michael
11-28-2012, 05:05 PM
You forgot that "blind skeptics" do not even exist.

If "blind skeptics" existed, they would have been blind believers, but they are not, cause they are simple skeptics with very open eyes and mind.

But skeptics strictly advocated double blind test, which is nightmare to blind believers.
My answer was the same what Geo mentioned, but he sooner put it: "Go To Morgan For Test" :thumb: :D :D , so your answer to this and his invitation?:cool:

Morgan
11-29-2012, 12:21 AM
My answer was the same what Geo mentioned, but he sooner put it: "Go To Morgan For Test" :thumb: :D :D , so your answer to this and his invitation?:cool:

Yes,invitation is open for PDK test,no hide transmitters.:cool:

Geo
11-29-2012, 07:53 AM
Yes,invitation is open for PDK test,no hide transmitters.:cool:

There is a problem. If they come to Portugal and see that there is not any trik and the PDK works ok as LRL then what they will write???? Science have not prove it....:lol:

Regards:)

Sneshko
11-29-2012, 10:26 AM
Yes,invitation is open for PDK test,no hide transmitters.:cool:

So ... in Portugal has everything and anything.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2228/internet5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/internet5.jpg/)

Regards!
Sneshko

Qiaozhi
11-29-2012, 12:23 PM
So ... in Portugal has everything and anything.

Regards!
Sneshko
Someone's been playing around with either PhotoShop or Gimp. :cool:

Sneshko
11-29-2012, 01:25 PM
Someone's been playing around with either PhotoShop or Gimp. :cool:

...Maybe, dear Qiaozhi, maybe ...
...Illusions are a strange thing ...
Illusions are the most beautiful when they are harmless!

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1883/internet3g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/internet3g.jpg/)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2057/internet4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/internet4.jpg/)

Regards!
Sneshko

Morgan
11-29-2012, 04:04 PM
Someone's been playing around with either PhotoShop or Gimp. :cool:

Thats realy nice,i keep some of this photos to my archive .

Morgan
11-29-2012, 04:09 PM
So ... in Portugal has everything and anything.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2228/internet5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/502/internet5.jpg/)

Regards!
Sneshko

The propaganda is excelent,most of them found the treasure !!!

WM6
11-30-2012, 12:29 PM
There is a problem. If they come to Portugal and see that there is not any trik and the PDK works ok as LRL then what they will write???? Science have not prove it....:lol:

Regards:)

Geo, right question is what will be excuse, if PDK will not work in real test.

I can imagine some of those excuse:

"PDK is working on targets buried at least 300 years and more only."

"Humidity was too high and grass too green"

"PDK is not working in front of sceptic."

etc.

I am willing to prepare real test and go to Portugal for real test, but strictly under my conditions, no tricky behaviour allowed. If we agree in test propositions and procedure then, no problem to undergone it.

nelson
11-30-2012, 06:24 PM
Wow, the first victim of PDK.
Im sorry Goranspeed you have this bad expirence with PDK.
I thank God for stop me to buy PDK and this was because when Morgan said it started to fail in his country after they migrate analog tv to digital tv, doubs came to my mind and also i asked how a PDK salesman can be to shure that his device will work in other countries when he is not shure how realy his PDK is working on his own land?
Also if this is not well proved by scince, how can be shure it will work in other countries.
May be is working on the lab or on the builder city, but not in other places.
In conclusion, to risky to be thru.
This is to Morgan:
Morgan, understand that if you are not shure of how PDK will work away of your country, it will be almost imposible to do buissness with PDK. Is better to star sharing information, so this way members of the forum can work together on PDK or similar devices. And about buissness, forget about it or at least remeber that always are people not like you, me and other members that will requiest from you to build a PDK, because they are not skilled in electronics. So kepping in secret all this make non sense at all.
I m a hamradio operator, and i have years and years building and designnig antennas, and bealive me or not i have many hams that request me to build diferent kind of antennas that if they like, can build because antennas sketches are all around internet, but some people don´t have time to build antenas, or don´t like to build it or simple don´t know how to build an antenna. Well with PDK is the same, if you post all information, take for shure your buissness will not stop, it will grow, because with the work and conclusions of all members, you will get a better PDK to sale.

Nelson


Morgan, put a little ball on the ground. So it say to us, if you are nervous. I never blamed you for anything, but I'm just saying that your machine simply does not work for me. That's it. And of course, I will not pay you back, because I sold it. After all, I 450EUR means nothing, because I threw a lot of money for various things. I sincerely hope that someone will help the PDK.

PS Do not worry, no one's going to steal a license

Morgan
11-30-2012, 11:33 PM
Wow, the first victim of PDK.
Im sorry Goranspeed you have this bad expirence with PDK.
I thank God for stop me to buy PDK and this was because when Morgan said it started to fail in his country after they migrate analog tv to digital tv, doubs came to my mind and also i asked how a PDK salesman can be to shure that his device will work in other countries when he is not shure how realy his PDK is working on his own land?
Also if this is not well proved by scince, how can be shure it will work in other countries.
May be is working on the lab or on the builder city, but not in other places.
In conclusion, to risky to be thru.
This is to Morgan:
Morgan, understand that if you are not shure of how PDK will work away of your country, it will be almost imposible to do buissness with PDK. Is better to star sharing information, so this way members of the forum can work together on PDK or similar devices. And about buissness, forget about it or at least remeber that always are people not like you, me and other members that will requiest from you to build a PDK, because they are not skilled in electronics. So kepping in secret all this make non sense at all.
I m a hamradio operator, and i have years and years building and designnig antennas, and bealive me or not i have many hams that request me to build diferent kind of antennas that if they like, can build because antennas sketches are all around internet, but some people don´t have time to build antenas, or don´t like to build it or simple don´t know how to build an antenna. Well with PDK is the same, if you post all information, take for shure your buissness will not stop, it will grow, because with the work and conclusions of all members, you will get a better PDK to sale.

Nelson

Hi Nelson

I dont know how many times i told in this forum that i not build PDK´s anymore,i think told this to J_P some time ago.
Not understand why you think i still building PDK´s...

BTW : what happen to Goran is one thing,and lets see if the other person who buy this PDK have similar results,to confirm what Goran said.

One rare silver coin was found recently in greece with PDK-2.1, distance was 7 m and deep 40 cm,but this coin is large 3,50 cm,not the tiny little coins Goran was looking for.

regards

Morgan
11-30-2012, 11:37 PM
Hi Nelson

I dont know how many times i told in this forum that i not build PDK´s anymore,i think told this to J_P some time ago.
Not understand why you think i still building PDK´s...

BTW : what happen to Goran is one thing,and lets see if the other person who buy this PDK have similar results,to confirm what Goran said.

One rare silver coin was found recently in greece with PDK-2.1, distance was 7 m and deep 40 cm,but this coin is large 3,50 cm,not the tiny little coins Goran was looking for.

regards

Here is the list of person who buy PDK-2.1 and told me not found gold yet :

Geost12
Sood
Goran

but there are much more that have more lucky...

Morgan
11-30-2012, 11:40 PM
Here is the list of person who buy PDK-2.1 and told me not found gold yet :

Geost12
Sood
Goran

but there are much more that have more lucky...


Should i need to build some magical LRL device that materialize buried gold in the owners garden ?...
18204

Morgan
11-30-2012, 11:53 PM
Wow, the first victim of PDK.
Im sorry Goranspeed you have this bad expirence with PDK.
I thank God for stop me to buy PDK and this was because when Morgan said it started to fail in his country after they migrate analog tv to digital tv, doubs came to my mind and also i asked how a PDK salesman can be to shure that his device will work in other countries when he is not shure how realy his PDK is working on his own land?
Also if this is not well proved by scince, how can be shure it will work in other countries.
May be is working on the lab or on the builder city, but not in other places.
In conclusion, to risky to be thru.
This is to Morgan:
Morgan, understand that if you are not shure of how PDK will work away of your country, it will be almost imposible to do buissness with PDK. Is better to star sharing information, so this way members of the forum can work together on PDK or similar devices. And about buissness, forget about it or at least remeber that always are people not like you, me and other members that will requiest from you to build a PDK, because they are not skilled in electronics. So kepping in secret all this make non sense at all.
I m a hamradio operator, and i have years and years building and designnig antennas, and bealive me or not i have many hams that request me to build diferent kind of antennas that if they like, can build because antennas sketches are all around internet, but some people don´t have time to build antenas, or don´t like to build it or simple don´t know how to build an antenna. Well with PDK is the same, if you post all information, take for shure your buissness will not stop, it will grow, because with the work and conclusions of all members, you will get a better PDK to sale.

Nelson

But i go to build one more PDK, i have order from the midle world,guess who is asking me to build one PDK ?
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

18205

Hi Sneshko, can you put the PDK in the hands of this one ?;)

Geo
12-01-2012, 08:35 AM
Geo, right question is what will be excuse, if PDK will not work in real test.

I can imagine some of those excuse:

"PDK is working on targets buried at least 300 years and more only."

"Humidity was too high and grass too green"

"PDK is not working in front of sceptic."

etc.

I am willing to prepare real test and go to Portugal for real test, but strictly under my conditions, no tricky behaviour allowed. If we agree in test propositions and procedure then, no problem to undergone it.

Hi WM6.
I agree with you that you must make the test with good conditions. I believe that Morgan has not problem to help you about it. Speak with him......
PDK has it own condition so you must do the test under these conditions. I will be glad if you will go to Portugal for test. It is time for all of us to understand what is the phenomenon.

Regards:)

Qiaozhi
12-01-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results? :shrug:

J_Player
12-01-2012, 04:57 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results? :shrug:It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon? :oh:

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.


Best Wishes, :)
J_P

Qiaozhi
12-01-2012, 05:35 PM
It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon? :oh:

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.


Best Wishes, :)
J_P
Perhaps you are correct ... BUT, I am not making any claims for TOTeM, except that it is an experimental platform to allow people to investigate the technology behind the PDK-type designs. It's up to each individual to decide whether these devices can be used to recover gold or not.

Quoting the Conclusion section for Chapter 14:

Unlike the original PD, the TOTeM project is easily replicated with a little care
and attention. It easily passes all the laboratory-based tests used by LRL experiment-
ers, and certainly appears to react in the same way as the device shown in the internet
videos. Whether it will lead you to treasure or not is maybe another story, but at least
you will have the opportunity to explore the pseudo-scientific world of long range
locators for yourself, and make up your own mind on the matter.

Qiaozhi
12-01-2012, 05:40 PM
All the information is there, and nothing is hidden. There is no secret ingredient that has been left out. Everyone with a little electronics knowledge can build this design and get it working. It doesn't have a swinging handle, so it's not based on dowsing.

Just follow the beeps. :ninja:

Sneshko
12-01-2012, 05:53 PM
But i go to build one more PDK, i have order from the midle world,guess who is asking me to build one PDK ?
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

18205

Hi Sneshko, can you put the PDK in the hands of this one ?;)

Dear Morgan!
O.K.
For a couple of days.
Regards
Sneshko

Sneshko
12-01-2012, 06:05 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results? :shrug:

Dear Qiaozhi!
I began to establish my TOTeM PD, but, because of other commitments I will not finish it before the New year.:)
Regards!
Sneshko

Sneshko
12-01-2012, 06:17 PM
It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Dear J_Playeer!
When TОТeМ become world known as PDK 2.1 - and he'll get your bikini hostess!:D
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Same as me hostesses!:D
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon? :oh:
I think it's on this site:
http://www.mineoro.com.br/detector_de_ouro.html:cool:
Click on the left: Duas Caixas, and to: MP10, and finally, click on: "Veja em Detectores Eletrônicos", opens a new page: "Os Detectores Elêtronicos de Metais".
On that page is (in Portuguese), explained in detail "PHENOMENON"

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.

Best Wishes, :)
J_P

Best Wishes & Regards!
Sneshko

Qiaozhi
12-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Dear Qiaozhi!
I began to establish my TOTeM PD, but, because of other commitments I will not finish it before the New year.:)
Regards!
Sneshko
Hi Sneshko,

OK :thumb:
and you may still be the first to get a working TOTeM.

I give the people a fishing rod, and they refuse to fish. :shrug:

Sneshko
12-01-2012, 07:29 PM
Hi Sneshko,

OK :thumb:
and you may still be the first to get a working TOTeM.

I give the people a fishing rod, and they refuse to fish. :shrug:

Dear Qiaozhi!
So ... I'm not sure. Our Geo and his Greeks are working on TOTeM PD.
See the link: http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8232
Regards!
Sneshko

hung
12-01-2012, 07:46 PM
Hi Sneshko,

OK :thumb:
and you may still be the first to get a working TOTeM.

I give the people a fishing rod, and they refuse to fish. :shrug:

Maybe they know this fishing rod only catches old and stinking boots.:lol:

Sorry Ozzy couldn't resist.

Qiaozhi
12-01-2012, 08:53 PM
Dear Qiaozhi!
So ... I'm not sure. Our Geo and his Greeks are working on TOTeM PD.
See the link: http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8232
Regards!
Sneshko
Can you understand what they write in the Greek forum? The translator gives a lot of gobbledygook English. As far as I can see, one of the members thinks TOTeM is a clone of the Gold Gun, :lol: but no-one has successfully built anything yet, and someone else is talking about an Elektor design, which I guess is the Zahori.

TOTeM is not related to either the Gold Gun or the Zahori. It is based on public domain knowledge of the Alonso PDK, but is not a clone. There are some completely new ideas in the design.

Everything is disclosed, and nothing is hidden. Anyone buying the book should be able to replicate the design without problems.

Sneshko
12-01-2012, 09:11 PM
Can you understand what they write in the Greek forum? The translator gives a lot of gobbledygook English. As far as I can see, one of the members thinks TOTeM is a clone of the Gold Gun, :lol: but no-one has successfully built anything yet, and someone else is talking about an Elektor design, which I guess is the Zahori.

TOTeM is not related to either the Gold Gun or the Zahori. It is based on public domain knowledge of the Alonso PDK, but is not a clone. There are some completely new ideas in the design.

Everything is disclosed, and nothing is hidden. Anyone buying the book should be able to replicate the design without problems.

Some members of the Greek forum have ideas about how to modify the TOTeM PD.
For that purpose the individual parts assembly Zahori and Gold Gun.
Anything they can think of.
They have fun.
I think best Geo explain what have so far managed to do.
Regards!
Sneshko

J_Player
12-01-2012, 10:14 PM
Perhaps you are correct ... BUT, I am not making any claims for TOTeM, except that it is an experimental platform to allow people to investigate the technology behind the PDK-type designs. It's up to each individual to decide whether these devices can be used to recover gold or not.

Quoting the Conclusion section for Chapter 14:

Unlike the original PD, the TOTeM project is easily replicated with a little care
and attention. It easily passes all the laboratory-based tests used by LRL experiment-
ers, and certainly appears to react in the same way as the device shown in the internet
videos. Whether it will lead you to treasure or not is maybe another story, but at least
you will have the opportunity to explore the pseudo-scientific world of long range
locators for yourself, and make up your own mind on the matter.TMI.... Proper way to advertise LRL: Keep it simple and don't make any promises! :D

Qiaozhi
12-02-2012, 12:23 AM
Some members of the Greek forum have ideas about how to modify the TOTeM PD.
For that purpose the individual parts assembly Zahori and Gold Gun.
Anything they can think of.
They have fun.
I think best Geo explain what have so far managed to do.
Regards!
Sneshko
I don't understand why they're trying to modify it without building it first. :???:

Geo
12-02-2012, 07:27 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to replicate the TOTeM pistol detector.
Who is going to be first to report back with some test results? :shrug:

At Greece some members of a Greek forum begun to make it.
But the weather conditions are not so good for locating the phenomenon. But who knows????

:)

Geo
12-02-2012, 07:31 AM
It appears TOTeM was not advertised properly. Scroll up and see...

Where are the photos of the bikini girl holding the TOTeM?
Where is the pirate finding treasure with the TOTeM?
Where is the fake explanation saying it will locate a magnetic anomaly phenomenon? :oh:

In fact, I have never seen a TOTeM in the same image were there is gold shown...
Go to any LRL web page to see some tips for proper advertising.


Best Wishes, :)
J_P

For you the only real is the Cryfton :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Regards

Geo
12-02-2012, 07:41 AM
I don't understand why they're trying to modify it without building it first. :???:


No, they don't try to modify it but to add a simple PLL detector down of it. Why.... i don't know :lol::lol:. Also i am not sure if every detector will not gives false signals to the other. Very simple i am waiting to see:???:

:)

Qiaozhi
12-02-2012, 11:37 AM
At Greece some members of a Greek forum begun to make it.
But the weather conditions are not so good for locating the phenomenon. But who knows????

:)
OK - thanks.
I'm just waiting to see if anyone gets positive results.
Due to the rubbish nature of the translator, please keep us updated on what's happening at the Greek forum.

nelson
12-02-2012, 06:25 PM
I think we all understand that pdk works under some conditions, so this is why i dont agree to keep it secretly, because each country has their own weather conditions and are located on different poles, so if pdk just work for Portugal and some other countries, its fine, but we cant pretend to make it work on a land where the constructor don’t know anything about his weather and pole conditions. Mau be pdk can just be made to work on some lands, but not to sale overseas.
If metal detecting hobbyist pretend support the LRL comunity, information must be release to experiment and to know about the pheomenum around the world.


Hi WM6.
I agree with you that you must make the test with good conditions. I believe that Morgan has not problem to help you about it. Speak with him......
PDK has it own condition so you must do the test under these conditions. I will be glad if you will go to Portugal for test. It is time for all of us to understand what is the phenomenon.

Regards:)

Morgan
12-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Hello

since i´m not building more PDK-2.1 ,but i still have many orders of people from Greece asking me the PDK-2.1, i post here the forum names of some friends who (maybe) can sell the PDK´s they have,i mean this who are not very sucessfull in findings.
This who interested can contact them and ask if they want to sell.

Geost2
Sood
Goran´s friend(Sneshko ? )

Regards

Sneshko
12-03-2012, 04:47 PM
Hi Dear Morgan!
I bought PDK 2.1 from "goranspeed"!
PDK 2.1 is for me a very interesting machine.
I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOUR COPY PDK 2.1!
Today is the first snow of Serbia.
I will detail my PDK 2.1 test in spring.
Then I'll know all the possibilities (or inability) PDK 2.1.
Greetings to all members of тhe LRL forum Snowman from Serbia!!!:)
Sneshko (Снешко) in Serbian = Snowman
Regards!
Sneshko

Sood
12-03-2012, 07:35 PM
Hello Morgan.
At the moment I am not interested in selling the PDK. Still much to explore and understand the secrets of the appearance of NS lines that appear and disappear mysteriously. Last weekend, figured out how to customize the appearance of PDK NS lines.
We also now in Ukraine, the first snow fell. All searches are transferred to PDK in the spring.:)
Regards Sood.

Morgan
12-03-2012, 11:09 PM
Hi Dear Morgan!
I bought PDK 2.1 from "goranspeed"!
PDK 2.1 is for me a very interesting machine.
I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOUR COPY PDK 2.1!
Today is the first snow of Serbia.
I will detail my PDK 2.1 test in spring.
Then I'll know all the possibilities (or inability) PDK 2.1.
Greetings to all members of тhe LRL forum Snowman from Serbia!!!:)
Sneshko (Снешко) in Serbian = Snowman
Regards!
Sneshko

OK,i will send you the INSTRUCTIONS today.

Anyway it will be interesting to test the PDK in snow.

Regards

Morgan
12-03-2012, 11:12 PM
Hello Morgan.
At the moment I am not interested in selling the PDK. Still much to explore and understand the secrets of the appearance of NS lines that appear and disappear mysteriously. Last weekend, figured out how to customize the appearance of PDK NS lines.
We also now in Ukraine, the first snow fell. All searches are transferred to PDK in the spring.:)
Regards Sood.



Hi Sood

The appearance of this North -South lines during part of the day ,are realy misterious.
I never experience this behavior during my field tests...

Regards

Morgan
12-03-2012, 11:23 PM
Hi Dear Morgan!
I bought PDK 2.1 from "goranspeed"!
PDK 2.1 is for me a very interesting machine.
I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOUR COPY PDK 2.1!
Today is the first snow of Serbia.
I will detail my PDK 2.1 test in spring.
Then I'll know all the possibilities (or inability) PDK 2.1.
Greetings to all members of тhe LRL forum Snowman from Serbia!!!:)
Sneshko (Снешко) in Serbian = Snowman
Regards!
Sneshko

During your field tests with the PDK in Serbia,you experience the North - South lines ?

Sood
12-04-2012, 07:19 AM
Hi Sood

The appearance of this North -South lines during part of the day ,are realy misterious.
I never experience this behavior during my field tests...

Regards


In Ukraine, there are lines like the North-South because of the West - the East, these signals are very strong, they mysteriously poyavlyayutsya and disappear. When the lines of the North - South PDK search should be conducted only in the direction North - South, in the other direction is not sensitive PDK ceases.

Regards

Morgan
12-04-2012, 11:17 AM
[QUOTE=Sood;144613]In Ukraine, there are lines like the North-South because of the West - the East, these signals are very strong, they mysteriously poyavlyayutsya and disappear. When the lines of the North - South PDK search should be conducted only in the direction North - South, in the other direction is not sensitive PDK ceases.

Regards[/QUOTE


Hi Sood


This is another reason to believe the PHENOMENON is diferent in intensity according the country we are searching with PDK.

Regards

J_Player
12-04-2012, 10:09 PM
Hi Michael and Geo

One day all the mistery around working LRL´s and the PHENOMENON will be cientificaly proved...Hi Morgan,
I am beginning to wonder what you are talking about.
Science has already explained the reasons why the electronic circuits can cause beeps in your locator.
Let us review. Here are a series of posts that began with WM6 discussing the "PHENOMENON":

My dear dreamers, you are so excited and happy with "phenomenon", which is to some others horror fear:

Originally Posted by J_Player
I also have a question:Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field?
I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is.
The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place.

We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance...
Magnetic field anomaly?
I don't think so.

Originally Posted by Morgan
yes,is magnetic anomaly,is very interesting when for example two silver coins are buried 3 meters from each other,the signal in PDK is confused and looks like a big area,this very dificult to pinpoint,much better when object is isolated,as you see in this videos.

Originally Posted by J_Player
Hi Morgan,
I do not believe two buried silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other will create a magnetic anomaly.
I can think of some anomalies that silver coins can create which could be detectable, but not magnetic anomalies.

How did you conclude you found a magnetic anomaly when there are two silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other?
Did you check with a magnetometer to see that these coins are creating a magnetic anomaly?
Or did you just guess that silver coins make a magnetic anomaly because your locator becomes confused?

Originally Posted by Morgan
MAGNETIC, DIAMAGNETIC and PARAMAGNETIC, not completely study,cientists need to learn much more...

Two years ago i was telling here about the PHENOMENON was located most of the times West to East and North to South,other times it as variations,but very rare to locate targets S to N. This hapens even with PDK-3 that still work without need of VHF waves.
Only recently i heard that Franco Italy(electrician Engeneer forum member) build one working LRL,and what he found? EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ,same experiences i have years ago when test the PDK-2. Recently he declare to have build one working LRL,I´m not alone


From what I can see, you have no clue what you are detecting, and this is the reason why you are calling it a magnetic anomaly.
In case you didn't know this, scientists have studied more about magnetic, diamagnetic and paramagnetic properties of substances than you know.
And they can prove what they know about these subjects because they have instruments which work every time to show precise variations in a magnetic field.
They don't use a VLF transmitter or receiver to measure magnetic amomalies of objects that are in the ground.
They use magnetometers and gradiometers to locate magnetic anomalies in the ground.

I believe scientists know a lot more than you know about which kinds of phenomena can exist around buried metals.
If one of these scientist, such as a geophysicist saw how you determined two buried silver coins can create a magnetic anomaly, he would laugh at you.
He knows very well buried silver coins do not create a magnetic anomaly.
Before he gave you a lecture on the properties of magnetism, he would show you with his magnetometer that there is no magnetic anomaly caused by the buried coins.
Then he may explain some real science reasons why your locator might have directional properties.

However, you can continue to propagate pseudoscience to tell people this thing which you don't understand is a magnetic anomaly.
But it won't work to convince educated people.
It is easy for anyone to verify that there is no magnetic anomaly where there is buried gold or silver coins with their pocket compass.
Any intelligent person would conclude the locator prefers to search in certain directions.
They would not conclude they found a magnetic anomaly and scientists need to learn more about magnetism.

Have you ever considered that you built a locator which has magnetic sensitivity?
Did you know there are changes in the strength of the earth's magnetic field in various locations on the earth which happen suddenly every day?
Or did you consider your locator may have sensitivity to flowing electric currents?
Did you know there is a cycle of natural underground currents which run in specific compass directions at certain times of the day, then can reduce, or stop at other times of the day?
And these currents run different directions when you check them at different locations?
Did you ever consider your locator is responding to changes in these currents that travel under the ground?
Or maybe it is responding to other natural fluctuations that can be measured from the surface of the earth such as solar driven cycles?
Radio engineers know all about how atmospheric conditions change the way their transmitters and receivers work.
Maybe these natural and man made fluctuations are influencing chemical actions in the ground.
Have you considered that lunar cycles cause the ground water to move, and this can change the way VLF waves are absorbed in the ground from a hand-held transmitter?
Have you ever considered any of these things?
Of course not! You are too busy trying to convince yourself there is a magnetic anomaly caused by buried silver coins!
There are hundreds of other natural phenomenon such as these which scientists know of besides the ones I talked about.
Yet I see no evidence you have a clue that these natural earth fluctuations exist.
But one thing I know for certain is you will not find a magnetic anomaly caused by two buried silver coins, or gold coins either.
This makes me think you do not have a clue what this "phenomenon" is, and you call it by the name "phenomenon" because you don't know what kind of electronic signals your locator is detecting.

Now you want us to believe the "PHENOMENON" is real.
Well I don't believe it, and I don't think others are stupid enough to believe it either.
What you are calling "PHENOMENON" is another word for "IGNORANCE".
When you use the word "PHENOMENON" you are really saying you can't figure out what kind of electronic signals your locator detects or fails to detect, so you will call it "PHENOMENON".
After all, the "PHENOMENON" trick worked for Mineoro, when they said the phenomenon caused gold ions to rise 7 feet into the air, where they detected them, right?
Well they did not convince me. And neither does your "magnetic anomaly" ignorance convince me.

If there is a magnetic anomaly, then we would be able to watch our compass move when we walk over this supposed magnetic anomaly that you say is caused by buried silver coins.
Or if we wanted to be more accurate, we could check it with a magnetometer or gradiometer.
I don't believe we will find a magnetic anomaly caused by the two silver coins.

I think your "magnetic anomaly phenomenon" does NOT exist.
Any directional response from your locator is caused by changes in natural earth currents or changes in the earth's magnetic field, or other natural earth cycles, not by buried coins. Maybe the directional properties are even caused by man-made electrical or magnetic events of some sort. But we will never know because your keep your circuits secret, and even you don't know what kind of signals they detect.
And now, you wait for science to explain what your detector detects.
Hahahaa.. that's a joke.
What scientist would try to guess what you have hidden inside your locators, or what signals it is responsive to?
The first thing they would ask is to open it up so they could test the circuit to see what it is detecting.
Then you would say you won't do it because it's a secret. He happy to know it detects the "PHENOMENON".
Then they would walk away laughing.

But I have a challenge for you: I will agree you found a magnetic anomaly if you prove it by showing us your compass become confused, or a magnetometer reading change to demonstrate that you found a magnetic anomaly when you move it over the location of your buried gold and silver targets.

The only thing I believe is I saw locators beep when they were pointed toward known buried metal locations, and they have directional properties that you don't understand.
All this "PHENOMENON" BS is simply fake pseudoscience propaganda you borrowed from Mineoro.
I believe that all the beeping you hear on your locators is caused by known principles of real science, and real electronics...
not by fake "phenomenon" BS claiming floating gold ions or magnetic anomalies where there is a buried gold or silver coin.

I think you don't know what electronic signals your detectors are detecting, so you call it "PHENOMENON".
And for this reason, you cannot understand why your locators stopped working.
The best you can guess is they stopped working because TV transmitters changed their frequency.

Maybe builders of the TOTeM understand a little more about the reality of electronics and geophysics.
At least they have a good set of instructions, and some world-class electronic engineers to ask for help.

Best Wishes,
J_P