artemis

[goldmaniac]

GREEK new construction

www.erevnitis.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevn.../0/3JPoWxrGQwk (http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevnitiscom#p/a/u/0/3JPoWxrGQwk)


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[luciano furtado]

GREEK new construction

www.erevnitis.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevn.../0/3JPoWxrGQwk (http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevnitiscom#p/a/u/0/3JPoWxrGQwk)


without comments from me

goldmaniac very good video in terms of consumption of the equipment reminds me of a famous brand here in Brazil ... hehehe

[takhslambos]

do you mean mineoro dch85m?

[Geo]

GREEK new construction

www.erevnitis.com (http://www.erevnitis.com)

http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevn.../0/3JPoWxrGQwk (http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevnitiscom#p/a/u/0/3JPoWxrGQwk)


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Hi Paris.
What video is this???
First we find the coin and later we turn on the LRL??? :lol::lol:

Best regards:)

[Morgan]

GREEK new construction

www.erevnitis.com (http://www.erevnitis.com)

http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevn.../0/3JPoWxrGQwk (http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwerevnitiscom#p/a/u/0/3JPoWxrGQwk)


without comments from me


Hello


These are greek copies of famous LRL´s

I saw the films,and the man looks like a groundhog diging only to find BRONZE COIN !?

These copies are the ALONSO PD,the tube in the top as the ferrite inside,thats for sure !!!
Other models are the MINEORO DCH 85,and DC 2008 !!!

Also i can advance,that this person who release this products to the market its a forum member who participate in the RS projet !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Geo]

Hi Morgan.
I see that you know very good Mr Iconos:lol:

[detectoman]

of greek? may be, people know geotech, if this is pd alonso of r.s then he is sell an project of our private comunity, and is violant an promise, of never negociate whit rs project of members, we pact , pd only for personal use, not for sell, only
the risk is pd can be public, then came very much other chinese and negociate brands pd clones
i await not be of an member cloner

[hung]

The coolest thing in those videos is the illuminated push button. Way cool.:thumb:
Then I did a search and found it to be an anti vandal switch.
Humm... I will probably get one too for my upgraded PD, which I might show here soon.

About the videos, yes, he did a good job. But the devices apparently still pick other metals and do not classify only gold or possibly silver. He can do better.
Maybe featuring a selector or processor to detect other leagues if desired.

What I really did not understand at all is why he had to use that crap MD after perfectly locating the target with the LRLs. The crappy thing almost missed the coin. If it was an inch deeper the MD would have missed it for sure.

As I already have stated in the TNET forum, conventional toy MDs are for kids amusement. Or.. a bone comb for those who keep ignoring the brush and hair dryer...:lol:

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
I see that you know very good Mr Iconos:lol:



;););)

[Morgan]

;););)


No,i dont know him very well,but i see i learn all the lessons about PISTOLDETEKTOR in the RS project...
Hope the price is not hig and hope the people who buy not become desapointed.
I think Esteban and Alonso will be very :angry:,but its not patent registrated ,isnt it ???

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan.
I see that you know very good Mr Iconos:lol:

Geo,can you tell us the price for each model,you are greek,maybe you can read in their web site...

[Morgan]

of greek? may be, people know geotech, if this is pd alonso of r.s then he is sell an project of our private comunity, and is violant an promise, of never negociate whit rs project of members, we pact , pd only for personal use, not for sell, only
the risk is pd can be public, then came very much other chinese and negociate brands pd clones
i await not be of an member cloner

Well,the person made a good job,he add a few extras in PD,the digital screen and the antenna,perfect design camuflage,but it still the same PD,have a look in «youtube, !!

[hung]

These copies are the ALONSO PD,the tube in the top as the ferrite inside,thats for sure !!!


The tube ontop of the device houses the batteries, not the ferrite.

Could be that he still employs a ferrite inside the main box? Yes, but if he has deeply studied the subject as it seems, I bet he does not need one at all, since we can spot IR leds inside the device and use them for carrier, reception and pinpointing.

Anyway, Alonso's PD aproach is an outdated concept and there are much better ways to build much more poweful and stable circuits with the aid of special components and microelectronics. Our friend did his homework and I congratulate him, altough improvements need to be made to filter out less valuable metals, unless he desires to detect them.

Regards.

[goldmaniac]

Geo,can you tell us the price for each model,you are greek,maybe you can read in their web site...

9000 euro
and
The joke of the matter
www.psaxtiria.net (http://www.psaxtiria.net)
searching free showcase of anonymity

[luciano furtado]

Longer works as shown in the video you tube seems to be an excellent option for DP so with the same problem for everyone who has seen a major consumer, with several batteries ...

[Qiaozhi]

9000 euro
and
The joke of the matter
www.psaxtiria.net (http://www.psaxtiria.net)
searching free showcase of anonymity
I see the RS Project was not a very well kept secret. Even the Alonso PD schematic has been posted on that site.

[luciano furtado]

RS project?? friend if you have more information on this project would like to know ok thanks

[erevnitis.com]

9000 euro
and
The joke of the matter
www.psaxtiria.net (http://www.psaxtiria.net)


That is a lie,the prices of my models start from 3,000 up to 5,000 euros:(

[takhslambos]

well how mutch cost artemis px 300? px 200? and the other than you using at the video?

[Morgan]

That is a lie,the prices of my models start from 3,000 up to 5,000 euros:(



Hello

Who are you ? Andreas ?

Nice PD design


Regards

[Geo]

No,i dont know him very well,but i see i learn all the lessons about PISTOLDETEKTOR in the RS project...
Hope the price is not hig and hope the people who buy not become desapointed.
I think Esteban and Alonso will be very :angry:,but its not patent registrated ,isnt it ???

If you will see the video1 carefully you will see that the "PD" can't locate the coin from 2...3 m far.
So it is a bad PD that works only with the omega coil!!!!:lol::lol:
Also near to a old house the PD must find more objects than a coin at 5cm....

[ANDREAS]

Morgan:No,i dont know him very well,but i see i learn all the lessons about PISTOLDETEKTOR in the RS project...
You are liar again. You don't know me and ofcourse i don't know you. You live in Portugal and i don't make visit in Portugal.. only Geo.
Second. About RS Forum. You know well, first i open some secrets from PD. and i present infos for this PD. You and Geo has "close mouth" and try "fishing" infos and help for this. All members RS knows well you make attack my person, because, you are fear.. if i make first a commercial clone..
You know well all members in RS Forum.. I open some secrets and try for help all, with my infos, inside RS. About you (you are specialist without a poor-osciloscope) , you are specialist and calibration LRL .. without laboratory.. Bravo!!! you are a magic man

Qiaozhi: I see the RS Project was not a very well kept secret. Even the Alonso PD schematic has been posted on that site.
Look pics First present video's (psaxtiria.net) and second present video's here.
Logical must be present first this video's (RS forum), but i see first present in greek forum.WHY???
I make this video's? Ofcource no. You and Geo make this video. Now you must be search.. members present kept secrets...
I want say something here
I have better LRLs for my personal use and i don't like glory for this
Morgan you have sell your first clone (4000euro). (if you want refresh your memory, this publish Geo in greek forum.) You are commercial user.. you try fr this
Erevnitis i don't know this man.. Geo and your friends knows well this man.
But my country some people .. try for commercial use and don't like if other person is first
I think is time present here my projects with new methods and..... maybe if Iconos-company want buy my know-how...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Note:
Θα ηθελα να ευχαριστησω τον Goldmaniac για την δωρεαν διαφιμιση-παρουσιαση του ερευνιτη και των μηχανηματων του εδω. Παρολο την επιθεση που του κανει στο ελληνικο φορουμ, εδω ειναι ενας καταπληκτικος χορηγος -προωθητης .. γιατι???
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I would want.. a big thanks mr Goldmaniac .He man make fine free publicity here about Erevnitis
Greek forum.. Goldmaniac make attack erevnitis .. here make free publicity.. why?
best regards

[goldmaniac]

Friends my English sucks
will quote a text and will be translated by a friend

ειμαι ιδιοκτητης αυτης της σελιδας και δεν αποσκοπω σε καμμια διαφιμηση εδω μεσα ουτε στην δικη μου
το θεμα το ανεπτυξα να δειτε την νεα κατασκευη αποστατικου σαν τεχνικοι και να κρινετε
ηδη απο οτι βλεπετε η ομαδα αυτη ειναι καλα ενημερωμενη στα γεγονοτα και απαντουν αμεσα σε ολα και ειδικα στον φιλο μου τον GEO γινετε επιθεση παντα,εμενα δεν μπορουν να με αγγιξουν παρα μονο να με κατακρινουν
αυτη η ομαδα λυμαινετε εδω και χρονια μεσα απο την ανωνυμια της τον ελληνικο χωρο κοροιδευοντας τον κοσμο με υπερμηχανηματα σε αστρονομικες τιμες δεν θελω να προχωρησω βαθυτερα σε ξενο φορουμ τεχνογνωσιας,νομιζω οτι γνωριζετε καλυτερα απο εμενα τον ανδρεα και αν προσεξετε στο βιντεο υπαρχη μια ακινησια του δεξιου χεριου που μου θυμησε το ιδιο κυκλωμα με το pozitron μια αλλη απατη που και αυτη εξαφανισθηκε και εγινε μυθος
ευχαριστω για την κατανοηση και οποιος θιγη τον geo θιγη και εμενα
και παλι ζητω συγνωμη

[WM6]

Hi goldmaniac

probably your Greek sucks too. Please put all in gramatically corect sentences with correct separate marks to make possible to Google translator to do usable translation. We get this now:


I am the owner of this page and not intended under any means or diafimisi here in my
The issue developed it to see the new building as a renegade technique and consider
Already you see that the team is to be well informed on events and respond directly to all and especially to my friend Become GEO attack everything, me can not touch me but only to criticize
This group of prey for years through the anonymity of the area GREEK mocking the world with astronomical prices at ypermichanimata not want to go deeper in foreign forum know how, you think you know better than me if the man and watch the video there is a stillness of right hand, which reminded me of the same circuit with pozitron another fraud and this disappeared and became a legend
Thanks for the insight and who thigi the geo thigi and me
again I apologize

[Qiaozhi]

Morgan:No,i dont know him very well,but i see i learn all the lessons about PISTOLDETEKTOR in the RS project...
You are liar again. You don't know me and ofcourse i don't know you. You live in Portugal and i don't make visit in Portugal.. only Geo.
Second. About RS Forum. You know well, first i open some secrets from PD. and i present infos for this PD. You and Geo has "close mouth" and try "fishing" infos and help for this. All members RS knows well you make attack my person, because, you are fear.. if i make first a commercial clone..
You know well all members in RS Forum.. I open some secrets and try for help all, with my infos, inside RS. About you (you are specialist without a poor-osciloscope) , you are specialist and calibration LRL .. without laboratory.. Bravo!!! you are a magic man

Qiaozhi: I see the RS Project was not a very well kept secret. Even the Alonso PD schematic has been posted on that site.
Look pics First present video's (psaxtiria.net) and second present video's here.
Logical must be present first this video's (RS forum), but i see first present in greek forum.WHY???
I make this video's? Ofcource no. You and Geo make this video. Now you must be search.. members present kept secrets...
I want say something here
I have better LRLs for my personal use and i don't like glory for this
Morgan you have sell your first clone (4000euro). (if you want refresh your memory, this publish Geo in greek forum.) You are commercial user.. you try fr this
Erevnitis i don't know this man.. Geo and your friends knows well this man.
But my country some people .. try for commercial use and don't like if other person is first
I think is time present here my projects with new methods and..... maybe if Iconos-company want buy my know-how...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Note:
Θα ηθελα να ευχαριστησω τον Goldmaniac για την δωρεαν διαφιμιση-παρουσιαση του ερευνιτη και των μηχανηματων του εδω. Παρολο την επιθεση που του κανει στο ελληνικο φορουμ, εδω ειναι ενας καταπληκτικος χορηγος -προωθητης .. γιατι???
translate
I would want.. a big thanks mr Goldmaniac.He man make finefree publicity here about Erevnitis
Greek forum.. Goldmaniac make attack erevnitis .. here make free publicity.. why?
best regards


I know the videos are now common knowledge (Morgan & Geo gave permission), but it was the schematic I was surprised about. Also, I now see the inside view of the Alonso PD has been made public.

[django]

Friends my English sucks
will quote a text and will be translated by a friend

ειμαι ιδιοκτητης αυτης της σελιδας και δεν αποσκοπω σε καμμια διαφιμηση εδω μεσα ουτε στην δικη μου
το θεμα το ανεπτυξα να δειτε την νεα κατασκευη αποστατικου σαν τεχνικοι και να κρινετε
ηδη απο οτι βλεπετε η ομαδα αυτη ειναι καλα ενημερωμενη στα γεγονοτα και απαντουν αμεσα σε ολα και ειδικα στον φιλο μου τον GEO γινετε επιθεση παντα,εμενα δεν μπορουν να με αγγιξουν παρα μονο να με κατακρινουν
αυτη η ομαδα λυμαινετε εδω και χρονια μεσα απο την ανωνυμια της τον ελληνικο χωρο κοροιδευοντας τον κοσμο με υπερμηχανηματα σε αστρονομικες τιμες δεν θελω να προχωρησω βαθυτερα σε ξενο φορουμ τεχνογνωσιας,νομιζω οτι γνωριζετε καλυτερα απο εμενα τον ανδρεα και αν προσεξετε στο βιντεο υπαρχη μια ακινησια του δεξιου χεριου που μου θυμησε το ιδιο κυκλωμα με το pozitron μια αλλη απατη που και αυτη εξαφανισθηκε και εγινε μυθος
ευχαριστω για την κατανοηση και οποιος θιγη τον geo θιγη και εμενα
και παλι ζητω συγνωμη

I am the owner of this page ( psaxtiria.net) , and I do not intent to any advertisement nor mine or the presented LRL.
I just made this subject , so that you can see the new LRL as technicians and make your own conclusions.
From what you can see , the “production” team , are so well informed about the posts in forums , that they answer immediately about everything and they especially attack my friend GEO . They can’t touch me , but only criticize me .
These people , through their anonymity , infest for years now , the Greek market , mocking the people with “hyper-machines” in astronomical prizes .I wont say more , I think you already know ANDREAS , better than I do and maybe you noticed at the video-clip , that there is a stillness of the right hand that reminds me the POZITRON team of makers , another fraud that finally disappeared .
Thank you in advance, for your appreciation. Everyone that insults GEO , insults me too !

[luciano furtado]

Grateful Friend by Andreas e Django you planned the project very well ... RS
What matters and what works and does not really like the design of the detectors PX300 and PX200 so that once again speak of consumption and ergonomic working hard on a prospecting or better in a search of two or more hours carrying a DP with a lot of batteries not true and I am happy that most new things are appearing on the market thanks

[ANDREAS]

for Goldmaniac
I think you are not idiot, but your post maybe is...
You say I make attack your friend Geo. Where are this attack? Geo make attack my person and Morgan too (post #5, post #6 here)
You have a site in Greece about treasure hunters. About this i say.. BRAVO!!! But you make and sell dowsing rods, signal generators for dowsing and you say for you... i am right man? Here you must search.. if members believes dowsing or not. Here you must be try sell your dowsing machines
About for me. I don't sell... you know well this, i don't make video's. Please find a man (one man) and he say here in forum " i buy something from Andreas".SOMETHING A small pieces.. Ofcource have not nothing, but you fear. Why you fear? I work only myself and i don't like glory
Only men love glory say for treasure hunting, for special machine with exotic technolgy etc.
I remember few months ago, Geo say .. i am erenviths, after search you and your friends, you know.. i am not. You are crazy man!!!! First i am erevniths, after i am not. Now you make attack erevniths in your site and then you make publicity from erevniths here. For me erevniths must be publish here "thank you goldmaniac for all.." .. What do you want.. gift machines?I build for you and you sell...
For django
Everyone that insults GEO , insults me too !
Why you insults? I must close my mouth if i have attack again? Do you want i say "thank you geo for attack me"
I think you are not idiot, but maybe your post...
without best regrds

[adamas1]

I know the videos are now common knowledge (Morgan & Geo gave permission), but it was the schematic I was surprised about. Also, I now see the inside view of the Alonso PD has been made public.

I see the RS Project was not a very well kept secret. Even the Alonso PD schematic has been posted on that site.

I post the schematic of the PD Greek forum simply because the loose. Wonder why;
http://hobidetektori.own0.com/lrl-f6/pd-pistol-t637.htm

[Geo]

I see the RS Project was not a very well kept secret. Even the Alonso PD schematic has been posted on that site.

Do you remember what i wrote to you before time about some members in RS forum????

[Geo]

Please, i don't like you to speak for me.
Andrea, i did not told anything about your name, what you say for me????
I told to Morgan about Mr Iconos. Where is the problem??? We Know who is Mr Iconos and ofcourse you know it!!
Again, Please don't take my name to your mouth

Thanks

[ANDREAS]

Please, i don't like you to speak for me.
Andrea, i did not told anything about your name, what you say for me????
I told to Morgan about Mr Iconos. Where is the problem??? We Know who is Mr Iconos and ofcourse you know it!!
Again, Please don't take my name to your mouth

Thanks
Geo, i have not problem publish here " a big sorry" if you want. I am not egoist
But this problem with you has 1-2 years. Why? You love glory, you love present your person here "guru". I don't love nothing and i don't publish here from me or with spy email. Your email or some spy tips... for me are "children toys".
I erase my person from RS, because i see the game and i don'tt lve this game. I send you gifts and make some interest for you without monay or something other. Why you are make attack for me? From morgan i have not problem. This man is not interest for me. But for you??? You are false first with erevniths, after you are false with "familly.. you know this". What do you want?
I see only you publish. You say "Please, i don't like you to speak for me."
You think... I like speak for me?. I think must be stop all here

[Geo]

Geo, i have not problem publish here " a big sorry" if you want. I am not egoist
But this problem with you has 1-2 years. Why? You love glory, you love present your person here "guru". I don't love nothing and i don't publish here from me or with spy email. Your email or some spy tips... for me are "children toys".
I erase my person from RS, because i see the game and i don'tt lve this game. I send you gifts and make some interest for you without monay or something other. Why you are make attack for me? From morgan i have not problem. This man is not interest for me. But for you??? You are false first with erevniths, after you are false with "familly.. you know this". What do you want?
I see only you publish. You say "Please, i don't like you to speak for me."
You think... I like speak for me?. I think must be stop all here

Again the same mistake.
Now i am sure that other people say you what to write.
I don't love glory or titles as "guru" etc. I make my Hobby and not my JOB!!! Now about mistakes i don't understand. About erevniths... who knows, maybe only you and panagiotis!!!. Now about family, OHHHH ask your friend Locator, he told me that you menace my Family and i email you as man to man. Nothing more.
I stop here except.... if you want something else

[takhslambos]

well what do you think about erevnitis pd?

[Morgan]

well what do you think about erevnitis pd?


Well,if its a good PD CLONE they can sell a lot of units ;)

Try to find the factory and ask free LRL demonstration in your treasure place :rolleyes:

Regards

[Morgan]

for Goldmaniac
I think you are not idiot, but your post maybe is...
You say I make attack your friend Geo. Where are this attack? Geo make attack my person and Morgan too (post #5, post #6 here)
You have a site in Greece about treasure hunters. About this i say.. BRAVO!!! But you make and sell dowsing rods, signal generators for dowsing and you say for you... i am right man? Here you must search.. if members believes dowsing or not. Here you must be try sell your dowsing machines
About for me. I don't sell... you know well this, i don't make video's.Please find a man (one man) and he say here in forum " i buy something from Andreas".SOMETHING A small pieces.. Ofcource have not nothing, but you fear. Why you fear? I work only myself and i don't like glory
Only men love glory say for treasure hunting, for special machine with exotic technolgy etc.
I remember few months ago, Geo say .. i am erenviths, after search you and your friends, you know.. i am not. You are crazy man!!!! First i am erevniths, after i am not. Now you make attack erevniths in your site and then you makepublicity from erevniths here. For me erevniths must be publish here "thank you goldmaniac for all.." .. What do you want.. gift machines?I build for you and you sell...
For django
Everyone that insults GEO , insults me too !
Why you insults? I must close my mouth if i have attack again? Do you want i say "thank you geo for attack me"
I think you are not idiot, but maybe your post...
without best regrds



Hi Andreas

Nice to see you here again.
Have good luck with your LRL research and projects.


Regards

[Geo]

well what do you think about erevnitis pd?

As i saw the video, it don't work right as LRL. But you can ask the erevnitis to test it.
Now about Iconos.... it can't work to locate the metallic box

[J_Player]

I know the videos are now common knowledge (Morgan & Geo gave permission), but it was the schematic I was surprised about. Also, I now see the inside view of the Alonso PD has been made public.

I see the RS Project was not a very well kept secret. Even the Alonso PD schematic has been posted on that site.

I post the schematic of the PD Greek forum simply because the loose. Wonder why;
http://hobidetektori.own0.com/lrl-f6/pd-pistol-t637.htm

Hmmm...

If I understand correctly, you are saying you published the schematic of the PD on the Greek site because it was already made public with full schematics and discussion at this metal detecting forum. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=sr&tl=en&u=http://hobidetektori.own0.com/lrl-f6/pd-pistol-t637.htm&prev=_t

Does this mean that neither Geo nor Andreas made the schematic public knowledge?

:shocked:

[ANDREAS]

Hmmm...
Does this mean that neither Geo nor Andreas made the schematic public knowledge?

:shocked:
J_P I don't write forum antartes. Only read post etc. Is your choice what happen there. I promise "only for personal use" and this is PROMISE:(
If you hear something mewing it's not a dog. Why are you searching for a cat?
best regards

[takhslambos]

i think this artemis px 200 is mutch better than mineoro dc 2008 from what i see from the youtube videos and is more goog from the esteban and geo PD.IF YOU COMPAIRE ALL THE ABOVE VIDEOS you wiill see easy that artemis hade a lot more power and acurency.

[takhslambos]

i want also to compaire the new dch85m from mineoro whith the artemis but is no video to see.if some one hade a video from dch85m please sent it to me or publich it .thanks.

[apogonos]

i want also to compaire the new dch85m from mineoro whith the artemis but is no video to see.if some one hade a video from dch85m please sent it to me or publich it .thanks.

βλέπω έχεις πέσει αμαχητεί σε εργαλεία ζόρικα :razz:

[J_Player]

J_P I don't write forum antartes. Only read post etc. Is your choice what happen there. I promise "only for personal use" and this is PROMISE:(
If you hear something mewing it's not a dog. Why are you searching for a cat?
best regardsI don't search for any dogs or cats. I only asked adamas1 If I am correct in establishing that neither Andreas nor Geo is the person who made public the PD schematics, and it was someone else.

Best wishes,
J_P

[takhslambos]

τι να κανω το παλευω.

[ANDREAS]

I don't search for any dogs or cats. I only asked adamas1 If I am correct in establishing that neither Andreas nor Geo is the person who made public the PD schematics, and it was someone else.

Best wishes,
J_P
Only report my name for public schematic, i think is attack for me. In this case please erase my name for.. public schematic??? and search for dogs with mewing.
J_P You know i am right man.. and you know well this.. please stop the "game" searshing for unknow man
with best regards

[J_Player]

Δεν έχω κανένα παιχνίδι να κάνω μια αναζήτηση για ένα ανώνυμο άνθρωπο. Η αναζήτηση αυτή είναι το παιχνίδι σας.
Εάν δεν μπορείτε να καταλάβετε στα αγγλικά αυτά που λέω, τότε ίσως μπορείτε να καταλάβετε στις φτωχές Έλληνας που μπορώ να δώσω: Δεν είπα ποτέ ότι είστε το πρόσωπο που πραγματοποίησε το PD σχηματική κοινό. Ζήτησα από την ερώτηση για να adamas1 Εάν είναι ορθό να αποδείξει ότι ούτε εσείς ούτε Geo είναι το άτομο που δημοσίευσε τα PD σχηματικές αναπαραστάσεις, και ήταν κάποιος άλλος.

Δεδομένου ότι adamas1 έδειξε όπου βρήκε τη σχηματική σε κροατικά ιστοσελίδα δεν γράφτηκε στα ελληνικά - Αυτό με κάνει να πιστεύω ότι το πρόσωπο που πραγματοποίησε η σχηματική κοινό δεν ήταν ένα πρόσωπο ελληνικό. Ως εκ τούτου, Geo δεν μπορεί να είναι το άτομο που δημοσίευσε το σχηματικό. Δεν μπορείτε να είστε το άτομο που δημοσίευσε το σχηματικό. Αν adamas1 θα επιβεβαιώσετε αυτό που ζήτησα από τον, θα συμφωνήσω με αυτό που είπα - ότι είναι διαφορετικό πρόσωπο. Αυτό θα χρησιμεύσει για να αφαιρέσουν το όνομά σας και το όνομα Geo από τα πιθανά πρόσωπα που έκαναν οι σχηματικές κοινό.

Δεν είμαι ψάχνουν για κάθε άγνωστο άνδρα. post μου ήταν μόνο να απαλλάξει την Geo σας και από την πιθανή προδότες. Δεν έχω καμία κατανόηση του γιατί θέλετε να με δει για να αφαιρέσετε το όνομά σας από εκείνους που δεν είναι προδότες.

[ANDREAS]

Δεν έχω κανένα παιχνίδι να κάνω μια αναζήτηση για ένα ανώνυμο άνθρωπο. Η αναζήτηση αυτή είναι το παιχνίδι σας.
Εάν δεν μπορείτε να καταλάβετε στα αγγλικά αυτά που λέω, τότε ίσως μπορείτε να καταλάβετε στις φτωχές Έλληνας που μπορώ να δώσω: Δεν είπα ποτέ ότι είστε το πρόσωπο που πραγματοποίησε το PD σχηματική κοινό. Ζήτησα από την ερώτηση για να adamas1 Εάν είναι ορθό να αποδείξει ότι ούτε εσείς ούτε Geo είναι το άτομο που δημοσίευσε τα PD σχηματικές αναπαραστάσεις, και ήταν κάποιος άλλος.

Δεδομένου ότι adamas1 έδειξε όπου βρήκε τη σχηματική σε κροατικά ιστοσελίδα δεν γράφτηκε στα ελληνικά - Αυτό με κάνει να πιστεύω ότι το πρόσωπο που πραγματοποίησε η σχηματική κοινό δεν ήταν ένα πρόσωπο ελληνικό. Ως εκ τούτου, Geo δεν μπορεί να είναι το άτομο που δημοσίευσε το σχηματικό. Δεν μπορείτε να είστε το άτομο που δημοσίευσε το σχηματικό. Αν adamas1 θα επιβεβαιώσετε αυτό που ζήτησα από τον, θα συμφωνήσω με αυτό που είπα - ότι είναι διαφορετικό πρόσωπο. Αυτό θα χρησιμεύσει για να αφαιρέσουν το όνομά σας και το όνομα Geo από τα πιθανά πρόσωπα που έκαναν οι σχηματικές κοινό.

Δεν είμαι ψάχνουν για κάθε άγνωστο άνδρα. post μου ήταν μόνο να απαλλάξει την Geo σας και από την πιθανή προδότες. Δεν έχω καμία κατανόηση του γιατί θέλετε να με δει για να αφαιρέσετε το όνομά σας από εκείνους που δεν είναι προδότες.
Thank you, you are sure only croatian forum? i search now and find http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1534, this is not croatian page and there has full infos for PD.
Best regards

[adamas1]

I don't search for any dogs or cats. I only asked adamas1 If I am correct in establishing that neither Andreas nor Geo is the person who made public the PD schematics, and it was someone else.

Best wishes,
J_P

I repeat that the PD is illustrated in the Greek forum post I like Alister.Geo, Andreas, or whatever else I have nothing, let them know. What other evidence needs; Sory for my bad english.

[Geo]

What you are looking for????
Adamas1 said that he took the schematic from the serbian forum and put it in the Greek forum.
I never gave this schematic to everyone. I know very well to keep my promises.
Andreas play clear games. The game that you play is very Dirty:angry:. Do you want to post the schematics that you gave me before years, so to see if i kept my promises all this time or not???
I will tell for another time, i make my hobby but you make your job selling lrls that don't work.
Stop now, game is OVER:angry:

[ANDREAS]

Geo δεν καταλαβα τι γραφεις στο τελευταιο post, γραψε στα ελληνικα
Geo i don't understand what you write .. your last post, write again this post a greece

[Morgan]

What you are looking for????
Adamas1 said that he took the schematic from the serbian forum and put it in the Greek forum.
I never gave this schematic to everyone. I know very well to keep my promises.
Andreas play clear games. The game that you play is very Dirty:angry:. Do you want to post the schematics that you gave me before years, so to see if i kept my promises all this time or not???
I will tell for another time, i make my hobby but you make your job selling lrls that don't work.
Stop now, game is OVER:angry:


If ARTEMIS or EREVNETIS or ARIADN,not work as LRL,(i think they not work becouse of the dificult calibration with ferrite) its not a problem for this forum that someone copy the schematic,becouse nobody will buy this devices.
Most people here never put the PD to work as LRL,this is very big task !!!

Regards

[WM6]

Most people here never put the PD to work as LRL,this is very big task !!!

Regards

Yes, definitely very big scam task.

[Morgan]

Yes, definitely very big scam task.


Hi Mr WD 40,WM666 or Dr. Best

Better not say nonsenses about Pistoldetektor,YES IT WORKS 100%

And if you call a scam to PD again...
Better not

[WM6]

Hi Mr WD 40,WM666 or Dr. Best

Better not say nonsenses about Pistoldetektor,YES IT WORKS 100%

And if you call a scam to PD again...
Better not

For sure it works, but cannot detect nothing.

In short: it works a little Morgen!

[J_Player]

Thank you, you are sure only croatian forum? i search now and find http://www.psaxtiria.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1534, this is not croatian page and there has full infos for PD.
Best regards

Originally posted by adamas1:
I repeat that the PD is illustrated in the Greek forum post I like Alister.Geo, Andreas, or whatever else I have nothing, let them know. What other evidence needs; Sory for my bad english.

Originally posted by Geo:
What you are looking for????
Adamas1 said that he took the schematic from the serbian forum and put it in the Greek forum.
I never gave this schematic to everyone. I know very well to keep my promises.Φαίνεται ότι η σύγχυση που προκαλείται από τα προβλήματα κατά τη μετάφραση από τα αγγλικά στα ελληνικά. Από ό, τι βλέπω, δεν υπάρχει ανάγκη για κανένα επιχείρημα. Adamas1 μας είπε ο σχηματικές αναπαραστάσεις στον ελληνικό φόρουμ, διότι ήταν αντιγραφή από ένα δημόσιο φόρουμ των ανιχνευτών μετάλλων. Η σχηματική δεν περιήλθε στο ελληνικό φόρουμ με ένα μυστικό πρόσωπο στην Ελλάδα. Βλέπουμε την καλύτερη απόδειξη ότι adamis1 μας λέει την αλήθεια από την εξέταση των σφραγίδων ημερομηνία για τις θέσεις όπου το σχηματικό έχει αναρτηθεί. Είναι εύκολο να δούμε πώς αυτή η πληροφορία μεταφέρεται. Μπορούμε να δούμε ότι δεν δημιουργείται πρόβλημα από οποιοδήποτε μέλος του ελληνικού φόρουμ.

It seems the confusion is caused by problems when translating from English to Greek. From what I can see, there is no need for any argument. Adamas1 told us the schematics appered in the Greek forum because they were copied from a public metal detector forum. It was not secretly brought to the Greek forum by anybody in Greece. We see the best evidence that adamis1 is telling us the truth by examining the date stamps on the posts where the schematic is posted. It is easy to see how this information moved. We can see there was no problem from any member of the Greek forum.

[WM6]

Hi J_Player

maybe system clock on Greek forum precede someway. So the path of schematics can be reverse. At the end adamas1 say: "I repeat that the PD is illustrated in the Greek forum post.."

Lesson of this story that there is not so secret forum things that wouldn't ultimately become public.

[J_Player]

Hi J_Player

maybe system clock on Greek forum precede someway. So the path of schematics can be reverse. At the end adamas1 say: "I repeat that the PD is illustrated in the Greek forum post.."Of course he repeated "the PD is illustrated in the Greek forum post" ... He also explained it was copied from public metal detector forum -- "I post the schematic of the PD Greek forum simply because the loose. Wonder why".

I am sure the system clock on the Greek forum is not set the same as the other forum. I believe Greece is in a different time zone -- maybe 1 hour later?
I just finished checking the system clock settings at both forums. They both report the correct time and day for their time zone. I don't see any evidence either forum altered their system clock to change the dates of the posts. If a forum were to change the system clock. there would be obvious evidence in the data base that we could see by simply examining the posts at the time the deception was attempted. It appears this did not happen.

Best wishes,
J_P

[detectoman]

the pd work, so is an great error the pd clone be put to public, due the governments can regulate whit hard control the use of all efficient pistol for recovering coins
is an error too due any people not genuine prospectors but comun explotacion can take our hobby how bussines
prospection in past, whit normal md, is not easy, and whit an efficient lrl detector the sites of genuine prospector can be invasion of people especulative and put difficult for other not of bussines prospection, they can put privaticed the areas far of genuine
all know what in egoist spain, exist further regulation from federal dependences, for all modes of prospection, due to voracity in goverment regulation, same can be put in other countries, if lrl is most efficient, then feber of prospectores not genuine only, then came laws restrictions for prospection
so the pd clones never due put to public, too mineoro never sell lrl easy operation but complex and only for genuine prospector operators
if clones pd are public, then came chinesse invasion to world, whit major designers, then prospection be very difficultous
pd debio solo de ser de uso particular a quienes se les confio, y no debieron haber traicionado la privacidad del grupo selecto
alonso never put public difusion of pd, he sell an prototipe difficultous for be cloned, whit wires flotant, and in critic calibration
the clone artemis is an modified pd, i think not in right range how pd alonso,
quien saco o derivo los secretos del grupo privado es un traidor que no sabe ser hombre y que pone en peligro la prospeccion libre
no es conveniente una expansion de prospectores con lrls, no tardaran mucho los gobiernos en poner restricciones o regulaciones, incluso prohibiendo el uso de esos aparatos, y solo por que unos quieren r tener dinero facil rapido en las manos, no conformandose con tener para ellos un eficiente modo de obtencion de preseas de prospeccion, y sus hallazgos, por eso ese era el peligro que el secreto pd cayera en manos de no legitimos buscadores sino de negociantes avidos
saludos detectoman mexico
ahora nuestro hobby esta en peligro

[takhslambos]

is the best PD i ever see live you?

[Geo]

is the best PD i ever see live you?

It is not the best but it is a lrl that work (with critical adjust) at medium distances

[WM6]

It is not the best but it is a lrl that work (with critical adjust) at medium distances




Mean it is not LRL but MRL.

Every MD is MRL, only pinpointers are SRL.

Working LRL exist, but only in sweet dreams.

Dreams are healing, but then in vigilance is necessary to distinguish between dreams and reality.

[Geo]

Mean it is not LRL but MRL.

Every MD is MRL, only pinpointers are SRL.

Working LRL exist, but only in sweet dreams.

Dreams are healing, but then in vigilance is necessary to distinguish between dreams and reality.


Hahaha WM6, again the same with you:lol:.
You can tell it MRL but you can't tell that every MD is MRL because noone MD can detect a coin at 3m distance.
Now about dreams... i agree with a difference, the most sweet dreams makes people that have not saw a LRL to work, people that worked with lrl have not something to dream, they saw the reality of a workable LRL

Regards:)

[WM6]

Hahaha WM6, again the same with you:lol:.
You can tell it MRL but you can't tell that every MD is MRL because noone MD can detect a coin at 3m distance.
Now about dreams... i agree with a difference, the most sweet dreams makes people that have not saw a LRL to work, people that worked with lrl have not something to dream, they saw the reality of a workable LRL

:)


Hi Geo

Regarding NASA standards:

0cm - 15cm = SRL (Short Range Locator)
15cm - 15m = MRL (Medium Range Locator)
15m - 15km = LRL (Long Range Locator)
> 15km = ORL (Orbital Range Locator)

So MD are MRL.

Did you ask yourself why LRL believers durin LRL tests at the end allways aply regulary MD?

Is not so because they forgot where exactly they buried "accidentally findings" and LRL does not have anything to help?

[Geo]

Hi Geo

Regarding NASA standards:

0cm - 15cm = SRL (Short Range Locator)
15cm - 15m = MRL (Medium Range Locator)
15m - 15km = LRL (Long Range Locator)
> 15km = ORL (Orbital Range Locator)

So MD are MRL.

Did you ask yourself why LRL believers durin LRL tests at the end allways aply regulary MD?

Is not so because they forgot where exactly they buried "accidentally findings" and LRL does not have anything to help?

Thanks for the Nasa standards. Really i see them first time.
Why LRL believers durin LRL tests at the end allways aply regulary MD???
It is very simple..... to pinpoint the object.
I never said that one LRL can make work as LRL and as MD.We need the lrl to go near to the object and then we can use a PI with big coil to locate it.
A normal MD with normal coil it is only for the beach to locate coins at 25cm depth.

[WM6]

Why LRL believers durin LRL tests at the end allways aply regulary MD???
It is very simple..... to pinpoint the object.



So, can we conclude that LRL cannot detect nothing from vicinity but only from long distance?

Are there a scientific explanaton of this phenomenon or it is only about LRL modesty cause by vicinity?

[luciano furtado]

Thanks for the Nasa standards. Really i see them first time.
Why LRL believers durin LRL tests at the end allways aply regulary MD???
It is very simple..... to pinpoint the object.
I never said that one LRL can make work as LRL and as MD.We need the lrl to go near to the object and then we can use a PI with big coil to locate it.
A normal MD with normal coil it is only for the beach to locate coins at 25cm depth.

Hello friend Geo agree with you and the important work that detects hehehe ...
the rest is history ...
thanks

[Geo]

So, can we conclude that LRL cannot detect nothing from vicinity but only from long distance?

Are there a scientific explanaton of this phenomenon or it is only about LRL modesty cause by vicinity?

Hi.
About your question, i can say Yes and No. It is not a diplomatic answer but from what i have saw i can say that the more strong LRL (bigger distance) the less ability to find the exactly central of the object.
Here the results are oposite from MD. The bigger object the bigger variation from the center.

Now about the existing of a scientific explanaton of this phenomenon, ... for another time i don't Know:lol:

Regards:)

[Geo]

Hello friend Geo agree with you and the important work that detects hehehe ...
the rest is history ...
thanks


Hi Luciano:)

[Esteban]

See: edited by Stevan. no Esteban. I read Stevan in other part... :nono:

[Funfinder]

@WM6
Pls let shoot yourself to the moon by NASA if you like to confirm that 15m still would be just Medium Range Locator! :rolleyes:

Because it depends on the size of the searched object if you can call a metal detector LRL or not.



@all
The larger the coil, the stronger the power, the better the distance!

What is needed is integrating a pinpoint coil into the large search coil without interference.

And because of the PD:

Why not register in this croatian forum and ask the person who did post the PD schematic?

Perhaps the solution is much more simplier as we think.


Anyway - now we have to find a way to make the best out of it - and btw. if you ask me this PD has alot similarity to the NASA ferrite detector - so maybe even the already known source has found it somewhere else and simply improved it!

And improving it is exactly the task what we have to do.

Using larger ferrite stuff, higher voltage, better shielding! and incorporate a good pinpointing ability.

btw. keeping intellectual value just for himself could be understood as some sort of mental greed and maybe doesn't benefit to anybody! If you like a free world you have to share at least some values that are not totally "life-important". Today entertainment anyway seems to be much more important as surviving - you see the proof for this in all TV-shows, celebrity zines and xxx-movies.

But entertainment at least could lead to some motivation or in our case "I also want to have such great life" like some stars.

Here in this MD forum our motivation is finding huge treasures by at least somehow REALLY working LRLs that has also a very huge entertainment-factor.

So let's have good and fair entertainment or interaction between of us but also really let us try to do good engineering, inventing and engineering electronical detector work! This should be the focus.


We have to find out why the PD hasn't been produced and selled since all the many years it exists / was invented and how to circumvent all the problems it may contains therefore...

[takhslambos]

do you now the price of artemis px 200 ?

[Geo]

do you now the price of artemis px 200 ?

Of course NO!

[takhslambos]

there is any more video whith artemis?