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WM6
02-12-2010, 12:47 PM
Here you are real, complete, easy to build and working schematic. No empty block diagram.

Schematic represent kombination of (rost free) steel U shaped dowsing rod with electronic sensing amplification tuned on target resonating frequency. Dovsind rod data: rod (steel wire) diameter 4.5mm, lenght 45cm, distance between U shapped rods 45mm. Ferrite rod antenna (F) have to be fixed (glued) at 4,5 x inner rod distance from both rod junction (at about 20cm). Coil is tunable to resonate on different target (have to be tested on individual final construction). It is suitable to pistol forming construction. L1 = 180 windings Copper enameled wire 0.2mm on plastic tube inner diameter 5mm.

Esteban
02-12-2010, 01:47 PM
Here you are real easy to build and working schematic. No block diagram.

Schematic represent kombination of (rost free) steel U shaped dowsing rod with electronic sensing amplification. Dovsind rod data: rod (steel wire) diameter 4.5mm, lenght 45cm distance between U shapped rods 45mm. Ferrite rod antenna (F) have to be fixed (glued) at 4,5 inner rod distance from both rod junction (at about 20cm). Coil is tunable to different target (have to be tested on final construction). It is suitable to pistol forming construction. L1 = 180 windings Copper enameled wire 0.2mm on plastic tube inner diameter 5mm.

Schematic can work. But small difference can't be sense. You can use beeper gen. for more sensibility. Another solution can be tune via collector (coil and capacitor) "frequency" of metals. 68 nF in series with 1K5 was used for tone for common speaker. These both components doesn't affects performance of the buzzer. Speaker is not very useable here due magnetic generation during detection, can be in opposition to "signal". Also common speaker can be produce a kind of microphonic effect in the circuit.

WM6
02-12-2010, 01:56 PM
Speaker is not very useable here due magnetic generation during detection, can be in opposition to "signal". Also common speaker can be produce a kind of microphonic effect in the circuit.



Exactly, but as you can see I suggested piezo-ceramic buzzer not EM dinamic speaker, which can produce inductive feedback microphony.

Esteban
02-12-2010, 02:15 PM
Exactly, but as you can see I suggested piezo-ceramic buzzer not EM dinamic speaker, which can produce feedback microphony.

I left the both resistor and capacitor if somebody decide to use speaker, but if somebody use speaker, then, this speaker must be out the pistol box, for example, in the waist of the person. With piezo also remain small microphonic feedback, so this must in the end of pistol.

Esteban
02-12-2010, 02:20 PM
Tune in collector suggestion:

Esteban
02-12-2010, 02:51 PM
Regarding your sketch, is not a dowsing rod. Is a pistol with antenna in "U". ;)

Esteban
02-12-2010, 02:53 PM
Buzzer in pistol:

WM6
02-12-2010, 02:59 PM
Buzzer in pistol:



Of course, as you can see there are draving of buzzer holes on pistol housing and LED above its.

FrancoItaly
02-12-2010, 03:06 PM
Hi All
There isn't connection between L1 and ground.
Best Regards

Esteban
02-12-2010, 03:07 PM
Of course, as you can see there are draving of buzzer holes on pistol housing and LED above its.

Ahh! yes, now I notice it.

Fred
02-12-2010, 03:16 PM
Tune in collector suggestion:
What frequency band would you tune the LC circuit?

Esteban
02-12-2010, 03:28 PM
Hi All
There isn't connection between L1 and ground.
Best Regards

No. But you can make another U antenna wich content the sensor antenna.

Esteban
02-12-2010, 03:31 PM
What frequency band would you tune the LC circuit?

In the range 80 Khz.

The problem is: how sensitive is this circuit for to show the phenomenon for small items? Maybe is good for big items.

WM6
02-12-2010, 03:33 PM
What frequency band would you tune the LC circuit?



It is not enough to tune only one circuit.

Essence of use dowsing rods (and electronic rods too) is that instrument must be coordinated with the end-user during tuning and work.

So it is constructed as wideband and multimode tuning with very simple tuning operation to adopt dowser on electronic dowsing rod having regard to the selected target.

How to tune: it is two step: first we serch (outside in open) for nulling by slowly moving the U resonator back and forth to reach minimal response in buzzer and led, then we try with sample target to find response. If there is no response (change in buzzer or led) all procedure have to be repeated to other tunning position. After satisfied tunning we can start searching and check from time to time tuning status.

Even tuning procedure remind to tuning some MD coils, it is wrong to expect that this instrument work the same way as MD. It is not MD it is dowsing rod electronicaly upgraded. So use it as is. It is electronic dowsing rod intended to dowser use. Mean, to find something one must believe in dowsing, so probably for skeptic will not work. But worth to try, even for skeptic, it is cheap, easy to build in funny in use.

Fred
02-12-2010, 03:41 PM
In the range 80 Khz.

:shocked: do you mean 80mhz? because 80khz with a 200pf cap will give only a very small tuning range, and wound on air it will need an awful amount of turns...

Geo
02-12-2010, 03:44 PM
In the range 80 Khz.

The problem is: how sensitive is this circuit for to show the phenomenon for small items? Maybe is good for big items.

At Countries as Greece it will not work, even at big objects:frown:.
Here the "phenomenon" is not so strong as at Portugal or Brazil or.....

Geo
02-12-2010, 03:49 PM
:shocked: do you mean 80mhz? because 80khz with a 200pf cap will give only a very small tuning range, and wound on air it will need an awful amount of turns...

80Mhz is so high frequeny.
200pf needs 20mH to tune at 80Khz..... and 20nH to tune at 80Mhz.
Nothing is good :lol:

Fred
02-12-2010, 03:50 PM
At Countries as Greece it will not work, even at big objects:frown:.
Here the "phenomenon" is not so strong as at Portugal or Brazil or.....
...Paraguay

apogonos
02-12-2010, 03:59 PM
At Countries as Greece it will not work, even at big objects:frown:.
Here the "phenomenon" is not so strong as at Portugal or Brazil or.....

Μάλλον πρέπει να αλλάξουμε χώρα :D:D:D:D

Fred
02-12-2010, 04:13 PM
Μάλλον πρέπει να αλλάξουμε χώρα :D:D:D:D
Unfortunately, number of treasures is inversely proportional to LRL sucess .so if you change of country LRL may work but there will be nothing to find.
After all, maybe the treasures are destroying LRL capacity to find them.

J_Player
02-12-2010, 04:25 PM
Unfortunately, number of treasures is inversely proportional to LRL sucess .so if you change of country LRL may work but there will be nothing to find.
After all, maybe the treasures are destroying LRL capacity to find them.Hace calor al sur.

WM6
02-12-2010, 05:01 PM
There isn't connection between L1 and ground.



It is. By unvisible resistor of giga-Ohms and coil to ground capacitance for better dinamic (adaptable to U rod conditions) sensitivity of Q1.

Geo
02-12-2010, 05:57 PM
Μάλλον πρέπει να αλλάξουμε χώρα :D:D:D:D

Never!!!!

GOLDENSKULL
02-12-2010, 06:18 PM
Hi WM6,

Did this device really work ?
It how detect treasure ?!!!

detectoman
02-12-2010, 08:59 PM
es como el white xlt spectrum, en clima frio funcional cool, pero nada mas le cae el sol a plomo sobre el plato y sobre la caja, y fiuuuuuuuuuuuu, prefiero un dowsing rod, jaja

detectoman
02-12-2010, 09:06 PM
hi esteban i not think these have good function whit beep generator, due these is in limit of power for the hig frecuences or giga hertz, operation, jjaa, if you put inside of 555 these step last, the resolution final, shure the 555 se pone en huelga, not work, extremely amplification, semms not creidble, but may be detect ovnis or chat of people of pleyadians galaxie

g-sani
02-12-2010, 10:00 PM
Never!!!!

We live in a Treasure's Paradise Geo and you know it, and I know very well that you really love your country and not only because of that.
Never mind if the phenomenon is not that strong in Greece.
The Treasures over here come in big sizes sometimes so detection comes easier even whith less of the phenomenon in presence.
:lol::lol::lol:
Be in the "right place" is the key to success just always.
Where there is no Treasure even the best LRL is useless.
Of course we are lucky to be Treasure Hunters in Greece!
Enjoy it Apogonos, just enjoy it.
:D:D:D:D:D:D

Geo
02-12-2010, 10:07 PM
We live in a Treasure's Paradise Geo and you know it, and I know very well that you really love your country and not only because of that.
Never mind if the phenomenon is not that strong in Greece.
The Treasures over here come in big sizes sometimes so detection comes easier even whith less of the phenomenon in presence.
:lol::lol::lol:
Be in the "right place" is the key to success just always.
Where there is no Treasure even the best LRL is useless.
Of course we are lucky to be Treasure Hunters in Greece!
Enjoy it Apogonos, just enjoy it.
:D:D:D:D:D:D


Hi G-Sani.
I ENJOY it!!!!
I enjoy Greece


Regards:):)

detectoman
02-13-2010, 04:40 AM
:< where is max? carl put foot in reverse part of max? you be max wm6? :) i m disapointed

epitopios
02-13-2010, 09:34 AM
BC107/157 are very old είναι για απόσυρση !!!!
instead of those BC547/557 are ok
friendly , epitopios

WM6
02-13-2010, 11:56 AM
BC107/157 are very old είναι για απόσυρση !!!!
instead of those BC547/557 are ok



Yes, epitopios, thank you to remark. There are some more possibilities of replacement too.



Did this device really work ?
It how detect treasure ?!!!



Yes, device really work (if you build it correctly). To detect treasure someone must have something like "born to be dowser". All de-scripted yet in this thread, if you interesting, please, read again. I haven't additional comments regarding this matter.

Esteban
02-13-2010, 01:23 PM
:shocked: do you mean 80mhz? because 80khz with a 200pf cap will give only a very small tuning range, and wound on air it will need an awful amount of turns...

Supossed you use for to tune it 2 capacitors, one of 4n7 and other of 3n9 (CX, THE BOTH VALUES ONLY AS EXAMPLE). Sometimes for to tune exactly you need some pF, sometimes less 200 pF, so this is a factor of fine adjustment. Maybe is not necessary.

For LX maybe you need 500 turns of wire 0.15 mm in small form. But you must calculated it.

Esteban
02-13-2010, 01:26 PM
80Mhz is so high frequeny.
200pf needs 20mH to tune at 80Khz..... and 20nH to tune at 80Mhz.
Nothing is good :lol:

Geo, see CX + pF. Of course, you don't need mH is you use higher cap. for CX. pF is fine adjustment factor.

Esteban
02-13-2010, 01:39 PM
If in this "device" isn't movable part, is a pistol, not a dowsing rod. Now, you have your pistol... do you wish to build it?... :lol: The only sure very good workable part is the beeper generator... :lol: also very useful for classic MD. :)

Fred
02-13-2010, 04:18 PM
Supossed you use for to tune it 2 capacitors, one of 4n7 and other of 3n9 (CX, THE BOTH VALUES ONLY AS EXAMPLE)
I see.And i like you example :lol:

Esteban
02-13-2010, 06:22 PM
I see.And i like you example :lol:

Very simple: you have capacitors 4.6... 4.8... nF, 3.8... 4.0 nF... 4.1 nF... never is exactly. I use in example because in a round coil 16 cm diameter 30 turns wire 0.35 resonates at such frequency with 4n7 and 3n9 + pF. Everybody knows that all capacitors marked 4n7 hasn't 4n7... 3n9 hasn't 3n9... just approximations... But if with these capacitors you obtain less than 80 Khz, then remove turns of wire. Of course, all is patience. :lol:

Morgan
02-18-2010, 03:37 PM
Here you are real, complete, easy to build and working schematic. No empty block diagram.

Schematic represent kombination of (rost free) steel U shaped dowsing rod with electronic sensing amplification tuned on target resonating frequency. Dovsind rod data: rod (steel wire) diameter 4.5mm, lenght 45cm, distance between U shapped rods 45mm. Ferrite rod antenna (F) have to be fixed (glued) at 4,5 x inner rod distance from both rod junction (at about 20cm). Coil is tunable to resonate on different target (have to be tested on individual final construction). It is suitable to pistol forming construction. L1 = 180 windings Copper enameled wire 0.2mm on plastic tube inner diameter 5mm.


Hello

Are you sure C2 is 0.1 uF electrolitic ? In my country not exist this value ,yes if ceramic capacitor...

Qiaozhi
02-18-2010, 08:46 PM
Hello

Are you sure C2 is 0.1 uF electrolitic ? In my country not exist this value ,yes if ceramic capacitor...
Yes, there is such a thing as a 0.1uF electrolytic capacitor, at least there is in tantalum format. I have some at home.
However, I cannot see why it would need to be a polarized capacitor. Simply replace it with a 100nF cap.

J_Player
02-19-2010, 12:31 AM
Hello

Are you sure C2 is 0.1 uF electrolitic ? In my country not exist this value ,yes if ceramic capacitor...HiMorgan,
If you want to buy 0.1uF electrolytic capacitors, you can get them here with free shipping to Portugal:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0.1uF-630V-Axial-Electrolytic-Capacitors-Audio-20-PCS_W0QQitemZ170438084266QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq2010 0128?IMSfp=TL100128171002r17648#shId

Best wishes,
J_P

Morgan
02-19-2010, 12:41 AM
HiMorgan,
If you want to buy 0.1uF electrolytic capacitors, you can get them here with free shipping to Portugal:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0.1uF-630V-Axial-Electrolytic-Capacitors-Audio-20-PCS_W0QQitemZ170438084266QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq2010 0128?IMSfp=TL100128171002r17648#shId

Best wishes,
J_P



Thanks, maybe i build this device,it seems easy,probably not work,but i´m curious...

Morgan
02-19-2010, 12:44 AM
Yes, there is such a thing as a 0.1uF electrolytic capacitor, at least there is in tantalum format. I have some at home.
However, I cannot see why it would need to be a polarized capacitor. Simply replace it with a 100nF cap.


Thanks for advice.
Very soon i will try to build this simple LRL.
Its very strange that Esteban not know this circuit...

J_Player
02-19-2010, 01:35 AM
Thanks for advice.
Very soon i will try to build this simple LRL.
Its very strange that Esteban not know this circuit...Hi Morgan,
It seems to me Esteban knows a lot about this circuit from his experience with the circuits he has built. Look at what he says about it:
...The only sure very good workable part is the beeper generator... :lol: also very useful for classic MD. :)

Best wishes,
J_P

Esteban
02-19-2010, 01:58 AM
Thanks for advice.
Very soon i will try to build this simple LRL.
Its very strange that Esteban not know this circuit...

This is a simple directly amplificative stages. Nothing special. I know similars.

Fred
02-19-2010, 03:11 AM
HiMorgan,
If you want to buy 0.1uF electrolytic capacitors, you can get them here with free shipping to Portugal:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/0.1uF-630V-Axial-Electrolytic-Capacitors-Audio-20-PCS_W0QQitemZ170438084266QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq2010 0128?IMSfp=TL100128171002r17648#shId

Best wishes,
J_P

They really don´t look like electrolytics :shocked:

J_Player
02-19-2010, 03:33 AM
They really don´t look like electrolytics :shocked:What do they look like? :eek:

Best wishes,
J_P

Qiaozhi
02-19-2010, 12:18 PM
Here's one I found in my capacitor box ->

J_Player
02-19-2010, 12:20 PM
Here's one I found in my capacitor box ->That's a tantalum capacitor for sure. But what kind of capacitor is in the ebay lot? :???:

They are selling these as electrolytics. Looking close, they don't seem too perfectly straight.
They almost look like fireworks! :shocked:

Best wishes,
J_P

Fred
02-19-2010, 12:31 PM
What do they look like? :eek:

Best wishes,
J_P

They look like polypropylene film capacitors, but i can be wrong.

J_Player
02-19-2010, 12:34 PM
They look like polypropylene film capacitors, but i can be wrong.Hi Fred,
You may be right about that. I always liked the tantalum capacitors. Those are cool as long as you don't go over thier voltage rating. And they never wear out like electrolytics (at least mine never did).

Best wishes,
J_P

detectoman
02-19-2010, 04:05 PM
where is maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?

Qiaozhi
02-19-2010, 05:07 PM
where is maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=106910&postcount=12

Fred
02-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Hi Fred,
You may be right about that. I always liked the tantalum capacitors. Those are cool as long as you don't go over thier voltage rating. And they never wear out like electrolytics (at least mine never did).

Best wishes,
J_P
Yes, tantalum are good as long as they are very carefully used.Their tendency to just go into a complete short circuit for no apparent reason make me fear them .

where is maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?
Yes,me too, for some reason when we talk "capacitors" i think "Max" :D

WM6
02-19-2010, 05:17 PM
However, I cannot see why it would need to be a polarized capacitor. Simply replace it with a 100nF cap.



Agree. C2 isn't electrolytic.

detectoman
02-19-2010, 10:26 PM
wm6 semms how max clone
isnt possible wm6 in very less time whit treadhs is guru" then he is max
hello ,maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you be continued with sceptic jokes

WM6
02-20-2010, 12:51 AM
wm6 semms how max clone
isnt possible wm6 in very less time whit treadhs is guru" then he is max
hello ,maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you be continued with sceptic jokes

How did you guess?

Yes, I am maXXX and you are Carmen Electra.

Morgan
02-21-2010, 02:45 PM
wm6 semms how max clone
isnt possible wm6 in very less time whit treadhs is guru" then he is max
hello ,maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you be continued with sceptic jokes



He is not Max.

Max is very busy,in the circus. This you can see in the photo,he is among other clouns...

WM6
02-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Max is very busy,in the circus. This you can see in the photo,he is among other clouns...



Evidently, regarding circus, you are well informed insider.

Morgan
02-21-2010, 05:48 PM
wm6 semms how max clone
isnt possible wm6 in very less time whit treadhs is guru" then he is max
hello ,maxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx you be continued with sceptic jokes


Where is Max ?

The answer can be hiden in this picture...

11344

WM6
02-21-2010, 06:05 PM
Where is Max ?

The answer can be hiden in this picture...



Max is here taken the picture of mineoro family.

detectoman
02-22-2010, 05:43 AM
quaozhy;, thanks very much for you attention in inform on ausence of max, es usted muy amable, :)

epitopios
02-25-2010, 11:34 AM
No. But you can make another U antenna wich content the sensor antenna.

dear Esteban , can you give us please a better relationship and connections about two antennas ???

http://i.imagehost.org/t/0441/antenna-ground_1.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0441/antenna-ground_1)

friendly , epitopios

Esteban
02-25-2010, 01:31 PM
dear Esteban , can you give us please a better relationship and connections about two antennas ???

http://i.imagehost.org/t/0441/antenna-ground_1.jpg (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0441/antenna-ground_1)

friendly , epitopios

Separation can be 8 cm between them. In center is sensor antenna. Out is ground antenna.

epitopios
03-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Separation can be 8 cm between them. In center is sensor antenna. Out is ground antenna.

you mean something like that ???

http://e.imagehost.org/t/0767/antenna-ground_1.jpg (http://e.imagehost.org/view/0767/antenna-ground_1)

and the Base of the BC107 tranzistor , goes where ???

friendly , epitopios

Esteban
03-05-2010, 12:36 PM
Mantain the original oval form for both pieces of steel. The piece of steel equal in form (oval) surround the sensor antenna. This another earth reference is connected to ground. You can vary the angle of this oval form (the connected to ground) for to obtain better results.

Base is connected to a coil surrounding a portion of the steel antenna. The steel "transfers" the incoming "signal" to this "floating" coil.

Morgan
03-06-2010, 01:53 AM
Mantain the original oval form for both pieces of steel. The piece of steel equal in form (oval) surround the sensor antenna. This another earth reference is connected to ground. You can vary the angle of this oval form (the connected to ground) for to obtain better results.

Base is connected to a coil surrounding a portion of the steel antenna. The steel "transfers" the incoming "signal" to this "floating" coil.







Did you already try this device ?

Esteban
03-06-2010, 12:01 PM
Did you already try this device ?

NO!!!

epitopios
03-08-2010, 08:18 PM
dears WM6 and Esteban
because Ι am a strange person and if I see something i must make it my self so I can see if this works or not , I make it !!!

http://b.imagehost.org/t/0670/P3080001.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0670/P3080001)

I make it with the audio generator of Esteban , i make also the antenna but it didnt work so I put an antenna in a box of cookies and when i come closer to the mouse of my PC i listen a noise at the buzzer :)
sorry WM6 but with your antenna , i hear nothing !!!!!!
friendly , epitopios

Morgan
03-09-2010, 12:35 AM
dears WM6 and Esteban
because Ι am a strange person and if I see something i must make it my self so I can see if this works or not , I make it !!!

http://b.imagehost.org/t/0670/P3080001.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0670/P3080001)

I make it with the audio generator of Esteban , i make also the antenna but it didnt work so I put an antenna in a box of cookies and when i come closer to the mouse of my PC i listen a noise at the buzzer :)
sorry WM6 but with your antenna , i hear nothing !!!!!!
friendly , epitopios



Thanks

Then tell us results in the field.

Esteban
03-09-2010, 01:41 AM
dears WM6 and Esteban
because Ι am a strange person and if I see something i must make it my self so I can see if this works or not , I make it !!!

http://b.imagehost.org/t/0670/P3080001.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0670/P3080001)

I make it with the audio generator of Esteban , i make also the antenna but it didnt work so I put an antenna in a box of cookies and when i come closer to the mouse of my PC i listen a noise at the buzzer :)
sorry WM6 but with your antenna , i hear nothing !!!!!!
friendly , epitopios

The beeper gen. works great. You need to regulate the preset very near the starting of beeps. For to test you should approach to a fluorescent tube or a TV screen. This must beep because the dispersion of 100 or 120 hz in fluorescent lamp or horizontal of TV. The type of buzzer must be with internal oscillator, this generate a nice tone. With other type you can't hear nothing.

WM6
03-09-2010, 08:23 AM
The beeper gen. works great. You need to regulate the preset very near the starting of beeps. For to test you should approach to a fluorescent tube or a TV screen. This must beep because the dispersion of 100 or 120 hz in fluorescent lamp or horizontal of TV. The type of buzzer must be with internal oscillator, this generate a nice tone. With other type you can't hear nothing.

Hi Esteban, hi epitopios,

near fluorescent lamp choke must be clear signal with U rod and primary schematic too. If not, there is something wrong in circuit. U rod may not to be from feromagnetic (magnet may not stick on it), if there is not pure rostfree steel better use brass rod.

Esteban
03-09-2010, 12:14 PM
Hi Esteban, hi epitopios,

near fluorescent lamp choke must be clear signal with U rod and primary schematic too. If not, there is something wrong in circuit. U rod may not to be from feromagnetic (magnet may not stick on it), if there is not pure rostfree steel better use brass rod.

This is true. With a headphone (better high impedance) connected via 100 nF you must to hear the cycles at more distance too.

WM6
03-09-2010, 01:29 PM
This is true. With a headphone (better high impedance) connected via 100 nF you must to hear the cycles at more distance too.

And first transistor used to be BC107C or BC547C type and if one use U rod out of brass to connect free end of coil on U rod.

epitopios
03-09-2010, 05:24 PM
Thanks
Then tell us results in the field.
Morgan,
after April until snow will melt ,at that time weather at my plays very heavy, we will see the results

Esteban
The beeper gen. works great. You need to regulate the preset very near the starting of beeps. For to test you should approach to a fluorescent tube or a TV screen. This must beep because the dispersion of 100 or 120 hz in fluorescent lamp or horizontal of TV. The type of buzzer must be with internal oscillator, this generate a nice tone. With other type you can't hear nothing.

Esteban ,
you are right , I try it before a TV set and a fluorescent and the noise of buzzer was bigger , but always with the cookies-antenna !!!

WM6
near fluorescent lamp choke must be clear signal with U rod and primary schematic too. If not, there is something wrong in circuit. U rod may not to be from feromagnetic (magnet may not stick on it), if there is not pure rostfree steel better use brass rod.

WM6
personally , when i saw that with your antenna I had no signal , I just figure out that with the cookies-antenna I had a signal with my pc mouse nearby
but i will try again with your antenna with a different metal , even i used brass rod


Esteban
This is true. With a headphone (better high impedance) connected via 100 nF you must to hear the cycles at more distance too.

I didnt try that yet , but i will do it maybe today

WM6
And first transistor used to be BC107C or BC547C type and if one use U rod out of brass to connect free end of coil on U rod.

As I wrote at the second page , BC107 and BC157 are retired.
so I used BC547 and BC557



friendly , epitopios

mehdi
02-02-2011, 08:48 AM
hi to all
please upload the correct shematic of electric dowsing to everyone use that shema
with great regards
mehdi

J_Player
02-03-2011, 02:16 AM
hi to all
please upload the correct shematic of electric dowsing to everyone use that shema
with great regards
mehdi.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/circuit_diagram.png

Best wishes,
J_P

mehdi
02-03-2011, 07:19 AM
hi j player how are you?
your posts mean is that this electric dowsing dont work?
please talk me clearly.
thank you
mehdi

J_Player
02-03-2011, 12:28 PM
hi j player how are you?
your posts mean is that this electric dowsing dont work?
please talk me clearly.
thank you
mehdiI clearly mean I have never seen any electronic dowsing rod to work. If I ever see one to work, then I will report it here.
The circuit I posted will work as well as any other electronic dowsing rod circuit for finding things to the best of my knowledge.
I expect you will find no help to locate treasure by dowsing when using this circuit, same as you will find no help when using other circuits to locate treasure by dowsing.

There is a $25,000 prize offered for anyone who can demonstrate an electronic dowsing rod working to find treasure at long distance in a simple test to tell which of 10 places the treasure is hidden.
Carl-NC is ready to give this prize to anyone who passes his test. But nobody has ever tried to win this prize.

Why not?
The reason people give for not taking the test is they say it is not fair.
But they are wrong... this is the same test that any metal detector can pass within their designed range to show which of the 10 places the treasure is hidden.

There is also a $1 million prize offered for anyone who can demonstrate ordinary dowsing or dowsing with an electronic rod to work in a similar test.
Nobody has been able to pass this test who tried it with regular dowsing or with electronic dowsing rods.
If there is electronic dowsing rods that work, then why does the person who has these rods not go to win the $1 million prize?

Only answer I know is because they do not work.

Best wishes,
J_P

taxma1981
02-03-2011, 02:12 PM
pal it works just fine the ravadoskopia why you say this; I personally find objects with sticks

Rudy
02-03-2011, 04:02 PM
J_P, that schematic you posted shows real promise. :rolleyes:

J_Player
02-03-2011, 05:27 PM
pal it works just fine the ravadoskopia why you say this; I personally find objects with sticksIf it works fine, then prove it by winning the $1 million prize...
or even demonstrate it live in front of me so I can videotape it and put it on a professional website for all the world to see.
I have heard people making claims that their electronic dowsing rod works fine for years.
These are the same people who cannot demonstrate that what they say is true by winning the $1 million prize money to show how it works.
And they are the same people who cannot show me it working in front of my video camera.

Best wishes,
J_P

taxma1981
02-03-2011, 06:20 PM
and what should we do now; to shoot video, but that; I am from GREECE, also should show and believe me it works;

J_Player
02-03-2011, 08:50 PM
and what should we do now; to shoot video, but that; I am from GREECE, also should show and believe me it works;Hi taxma1981,
You don't need to do anything.
You can continue using the ravadoskopia or sticks of your choice to find things. Nobody will stop you from using them.

But if your objective is to convince other people that these methods are working, then maybe you will want to show demonstrations to convince people. If you are 100% certain that your methods work perfectly, then you can go to take the $1 million prize test. When you finish the test to show you can find which of the places they hide the treasure many times without error, then you will receive your $1 million. This prize will easily pay for your trip to make the demonstration, and you will have a lot of money in the bank after paying for the travel expenses. So if you are sure your methods work, you can win $1 million and convince all non-believers at the same time.

Isn't $1 million more than all the treasures you already found with your stick dowsing or with the ravadoskopia?

Best wishes,
J_P

Don Jose de La Mancha
02-04-2011, 02:05 AM
HIO JP I have been waiting patiently for you to tell me what the effective resistance in the comb of 1 ohm resistors is.

Don Jose de La Mancha

J_Player
02-04-2011, 05:51 AM
HIO JP I have been waiting patiently for you to tell me what the effective resistance in the comb of 1 ohm resistors is.

Don Jose de La Manchahttp://www.geotech1.com/forums/showpost.php?p=123237&postcount=18

Geo
02-04-2011, 06:50 AM
If it works fine, then prove it by winning the $1 million prize...
or even demonstrate it live in front of me so I can videotape it and put it on a professional website for all the world to see.
I have heard people making claims that their electronic dowsing rod works fine for years.
These are the same people who cannot demonstrate that what they say is true by winning the $1 million prize money to show how it works.
And they are the same people who cannot show me it working in front of my video camera.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
Well aware that psychology is an important factor in dowsing. So when dowsing with anxiety to reach the absolute (100%) then the results are not expected. But we've written so many times ..... enough for us that a success rate of 10 or 20 or 30%. For people looking for great treasures that is enough for them but who are looking coins on the beaches ..... maybe not

Regards:)

Geo
02-04-2011, 06:53 AM
and what should we do now; to shoot video, but that; I am from GREECE, also should show and believe me it works;

NO.... most people would not believe to video. They will say that it is a trick.... as so many times:lol:

Regards:)

Geo
02-04-2011, 07:00 AM
Hi taxma1981,
You don't need to do anything.
You can continue using the ravadoskopia or sticks of your choice to find things. Nobody will stop you from using them.

But if your objective is to convince other people that these methods are working, then maybe you will want to show demonstrations to convince people. If you are 100% certain that your methods work perfectly, then you can go to take the $1 million prize test. When you finish the test to show you can find which of the places they hide the treasure many times without error, then you will receive your $1 million. This prize will easily pay for your trip to make the demonstration, and you will have a lot of money in the bank after paying for the travel expenses. So if you are sure your methods work, you can win $1 million and convince all non-believers at the same time.

Isn't $1 million more than all the treasures you already found with your stick dowsing or with the ravadoskopia?

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi J_P.
The $1 million is a big story. There are better ways for randy to check if dowsing method working or not, than to pay the $1 million. But he don't interesting for the method but for the dollars so it is impossible anyone to gain the money!!!:lol::lol:

Regards:)

J_Player
02-04-2011, 07:19 AM
Hi J_P.
The $1 million is a big story. There are better ways for randy to check if dowsing method working or not, than to pay the $1 million. But he don't interesting for the method but for the dollars so it is impossible anyone to gain the money!!!:lol::lol:

Regards:)Hi Geo,

There is not a better way to be certain that dowsing or any other locating method works than to administer a test to prove it works.
If dowsing cannot be shown to pass a simple test the same as any metal detector, then why should people believe it works?
The reason why the Randi test is a good test is because nobody can use any tricks to make it a fake test.
Believer and non-believer are prevented from making fake videos or hidden oscillators.
Any cheap metal detector can pass this test, even if the person using the metal detector does not believe the metal detector will work.
This is because nobody can cheat in this test.

It is possible for any person who can dowse without making mistakes to win the $1 million.
People who were tested to see if they can find hidden targets using electronic locators and dowsing were videotaped...
and the videotape showed they could not find the location of the hidden treasure, except by the same chance as guessing with no dowsing.
If you are sure you can dowse, then you could take the test and win the $1 million for yourself. But if your dowsing does not work well enough for testing like a metal detector does, then you will not win the $1 million.
But even if your dowsing does not work for testing, you can still use it for treasure hunting. Nobody will stop you except maybe government officials who don't want you to hunt treasures.

If your dowsing really works.... why not take the test to prove it and take home the $1 million?
You don't like $1 million?

Best wishes,
J_P

taxma1981
02-04-2011, 11:34 AM
What tests should I do; I can see in detail what would happen if I try; to do this test; I get that I will stick;:D

taxma1981
02-04-2011, 11:49 AM
γιωργο θα κανουμε αποστολη με την ελληνικη σημαια?
i dont need stick i have something better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FcvHnM6WkI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

J_Player
02-04-2011, 03:02 PM
What tests should I do; I can see in detail what would happen if I try; to do this test; I get that I will stick;:DYou must perform the test in front of witnesses from the JREF organization.
They will have someone hide the target for you to find.
Here is the information to take the test: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
See here for a sample of dowsing test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOsCnX-TKIY

Best wishes,
J_P

Geo
02-04-2011, 05:59 PM
Hi Geo,

There is not a better way to be certain that dowsing or any other locating method works than to administer a test to prove it works.
If dowsing cannot be shown to pass a simple test the same as any metal detector, then why should people believe it works?
The reason why the Randi test is a good test is because nobody can use any tricks to make it a fake test.
Believer and non-believer are prevented from making fake videos or hidden oscillators.
Any cheap metal detector can pass this test, even if the person using the metal detector does not believe the metal detector will work.
This is because nobody can cheat in this test.

It is possible for any person who can dowse without making mistakes to win the $1 million.
People who were tested to see if they can find hidden targets using electronic locators and dowsing were videotaped...
and the videotape showed they could not find the location of the hidden treasure, except by the same chance as guessing with no dowsing.
If you are sure you can dowse, then you could take the test and win the $1 million for yourself. But if your dowsing does not work well enough for testing like a metal detector does, then you will not win the $1 million.
But even if your dowsing does not work for testing, you can still use it for treasure hunting. Nobody will stop you except maybe government officials who don't want you to hunt treasures.

If your dowsing really works.... why not take the test to prove it and take home the $1 million?
You don't like $1 million?

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi J_P.
My dowsing works but i never said that i am the best!!!. I wrote that if i have success of 20% or 30% is very good if you are looking for a big treasure.
You compared the dowsing with a simple metal detector. OK, i will compare it with the best metal detector. Wich metal detector can find a coin at one kilometer far???? who is the best metal detector????. All are scrap.
In the video watch psychological pressure had an interviewee;;;; Is also a factor in weight of the test.
But if Randy is interesting for the truth about the dowsing why he don't travel at some countries to do the test and to see the truth???? He will leave no money:lol:.

Regards:)

Geo
02-04-2011, 06:15 PM
γιωργο θα κανουμε αποστολη με την ελληνικη σημαια?
i dont need stick i have something better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FcvHnM6WkI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


H διαδικασια ειναι τοσο επιπονη και απαιτουνται τοσα εξοδα που δεν αξιζει να το σκεφτεσαι.

Saturna
02-05-2011, 01:36 AM
Hi J_P.
Which metal detector can find a coin at one kilometer far????



No MD user or MD manufacturer has ever made the claim that their machine will locate items at that distance.

J_Player
02-05-2011, 02:13 AM
Hi J_P.
My dowsing works but i never said that i am the best!!!. I wrote that if i have success of 20% or 30% is very good if you are looking for a big treasure.
You compared the dowsing with a simple metal detector. OK, i will compare it with the best metal detector. Wich metal detector can find a coin at one kilometer far???? who is the best metal detector????. All are scrap.
In the video watch psychological pressure had an interviewee;;;; Is also a factor in weight of the test.
But if Randy is interesting for the truth about the dowsing why he don't travel at some countries to do the test and to see the truth???? He will leave no money:lol:.

Regards:)Hi Geo,
20-30% is not good enough. If you need to know which of 2 locations the treasure is hidden, then plain guessing will give you 50% correct.... much better than 20-30% from dowsing.
So guessing or flip a coin will give better results than your dowsing. :shocked:
If you want to win the $1 million prize you must perform better than guessing, not worse than guessing.

In Carl's test, he will pay you the $25,000 prize if you can dowse the correct location from 10 possible locations.
You must repeat the test, and continue to get the correct location.
If you can find the correct location of the treasure 7 times from 10 trials, then you will win the $25,000 prize.
And you know Carl-NC will pay the prize if you win.... already you won the White's metal detector and he sent it to you. :thumb:

Randi did travel to many countries to find the truth of dowsing. What he finds is nobody can dowse to show what they find better than guessing.

You will see Randi held dowsing tests for water, for gold, and for brass. The best dowsers in Australia came to show how well they could dowse. Randi and two other skeptics were there who had a prize of $30,000 for any dowser who could show their dowsing works. Before the test was started, a fourth skeptic added more money to make the prize $40,000. The best dowsers in Australia were not able to dowse better than guessing.
See the dowsers try to find the water and the gold here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7461912885649996034#

Maybe you can try this test to see if you are able to find the hidden gold or find which pipe has water.

Best wishes,
J_P

Geo
02-05-2011, 07:47 AM
Hi J_P.
I think that you do not have understood .
When i wrote about 20% or 30% success i don't mean for pinpoint.....
I wrote for locating a big treasures from long distance, so how many treasure there are together so i to have two or more signals and to decide to locate the true????
The place where the LRods will indicate me will have a object 100% but it is not always what i am looking for. Here is the problem.
If Carl was in Greece then I would do the test, but USA is far away.
Now about the Randy .... there is no way to get a test in the presence because it become too crowded so that psychological stress is large enough.
I don't need to do the Randy's test so to find hidden gold. The best test is the field and there i have more findings

Regards:)

Geo
02-05-2011, 07:53 AM
No MD user or MD manufacturer has ever made the claim that their machine will locate items at that distance.

I know it.
Serious manufacturers don't say anything about the depth. So, MD are as i wrote.... only for coins at beaches, for nothing else!!!.
When you are looking for coins at a beach then i agree with all of you that the MD's are a better choise than a dowsing method. But idf you are looking for a treasure at a mountain then it is better to let the MD at home!!!

taxma1981
02-05-2011, 09:07 AM
γιωργο κ τι τεστ κανεις εκει?σε στουντιο η εξω?8)

J_Player
02-05-2011, 10:20 AM
Hi J_P.
I think that you do not have understood .
When i wrote about 20% or 30% success i don't mean for pinpoint.....
I wrote for locating a big treasures from long distance, so how many treasure there are together so i to have two or more signals and to decide to locate the true????
The place where the LRods will indicate me will have a object 100% but it is not always what i am looking for. Here is the problem.
If Carl was in Greece then I would do the test, but USA is far away.
Now about the Randy .... there is no way to get a test in the presence because it become too crowded so that psychological stress is large enough.
I don't need to do the Randy's test so to find hidden gold. The best test is the field and there i have more findings

Regards:)Hi Geo,
I understand exactly.
you say you have 20% or 30% success for locating a big treasure from long distance, but you cannot pinpoint the large treasure. You will use a metal detector to pinpoint it.
I can tell you that Carl and Randi will not give you the prize if you cannot tell which location the target is when you use a metal detector to pinpoint it.

Something else I can tell you... I also can locate treasures long distance but not pinpoint. Except I can locate coins, not big treasures.
When I go to the beach, I can use the "guess method" to know there are at least 5 coins in the sand to be found in any direction where I "guess" the coins are located.
And every time when I take a metal detector in that direction to verify my "guess" method of long range locating is really working, I pinpoint more than 5 coins in the sand and recover them.
Some of these coins were recovered up to a mile distance from where I made the "guess" of their location!
I have better than 97% success with my "guess" method of long range locating coins at the beach.
My "guess" technique of long range locating really works. Anyone can come and see, and even make videos to prove it really is working.
I think you will be able to record 100% success on your videos of me recovering coins where I make "guesses" which direction the coins are located at the sand at the beaches.

I can also use my "guess" locating method to determine that there is a metal target hidden somewhere in Randi's test field, then use a metal detector to pinpoint the metal target.
And I know Randi will not pay me the $1 million prize if I prove my "guess" locating method is working, because he will say I used a metal detector to pinpoint.
But also, he will not pay the $1 million prize if you prove your dowsing works because you also use a metal detector to pinpoint.
Randi will conclude that your dowsing is not better than my guessing for finding which location he hid the target.

Another thing I can do is to locate big treasures at long distance from "guessing".
I can locate a big treasure at 100 miles or more with only my "guessing" method.
I was 120 miles distance from the city of Los Angeles last week and I guessed there is a large treasure in the direction of Los Angeles.
I later confirmed that there is are many big treasures in Los Angeles area when I discovered there are many banks that keep safe deposit boxes full of treasures,
I also discovered there are many jewelry stores in Los Angeles, and there are also museums that have excellent collectible treasures on display....
http://www.getty.edu/museum/
http://www.lacma.org/art/Lucknow.aspx

So you can see my "guessing" method for long range locating is also working with very good percentage like your dowsing method.
Of course, not everyone can guess as well as I can, but when I have the proper mental conditions with no stress, I can get 100% success at locating treasures from long distance.
And same as dowsing, I need a metal detector for pinpointing. And also same as dowsing, I cannot win any big prize for "guessing" method.
But I will be happy to use "guessing" method for my treasure hunts, same as you are happy to use dowsing for your treasure hunts. :thumb:

Best wishes,
J_P

Geo
02-05-2011, 09:51 PM
Hi Geo,
I understand exactly.
you say you have 20% or 30% success for locating a big treasure from long distance, but you cannot pinpoint the large treasure. You will use a metal detector to pinpoint it.
I can tell you that Carl and Randi will not give you the prize if you cannot tell which location the target is when you use a metal detector to pinpoint it.

Something else I can tell you... I also can locate treasures long distance but not pinpoint. Except I can locate coins, not big treasures.
When I go to the beach, I can use the "guess method" to know there are at least 5 coins in the sand to be found in any direction where I "guess" the coins are located.
And every time when I take a metal detector in that direction to verify my "guess" method of long range locating is really working, I pinpoint more than 5 coins in the sand and recover them.
Some of these coins were recovered up to a mile distance from where I made the "guess" of their location!
I have better than 97% success with my "guess" method of long range locating coins at the beach.
My "guess" technique of long range locating really works. Anyone can come and see, and even make videos to prove it really is working.
I think you will be able to record 100% success on your videos of me recovering coins where I make "guesses" which direction the coins are located at the sand at the beaches.

I can also use my "guess" locating method to determine that there is a metal target hidden somewhere in Randi's test field, then use a metal detector to pinpoint the metal target.
And I know Randi will not pay me the $1 million prize if I prove my "guess" locating method is working, because he will say I used a metal detector to pinpoint.
But also, he will not pay the $1 million prize if you prove your dowsing works because you also use a metal detector to pinpoint.
Randi will conclude that your dowsing is not better than my guessing for finding which location he hid the target.

Another thing I can do is to locate big treasures at long distance from "guessing".
I can locate a big treasure at 100 miles or more with only my "guessing" method.
I was 120 miles distance from the city of Los Angeles last week and I guessed there is a large treasure in the direction of Los Angeles.
I later confirmed that there is are many big treasures in Los Angeles area when I discovered there are many banks that keep safe deposit boxes full of treasures,
I also discovered there are many jewelry stores in Los Angeles, and there are also museums that have excellent collectible treasures on display....
http://www.getty.edu/museum/
http://www.lacma.org/art/Lucknow.aspx

So you can see my "guessing" method for long range locating is also working with very good percentage like your dowsing method.
Of course, not everyone can guess as well as I can, but when I have the proper mental conditions with no stress, I can get 100% success at locating treasures from long distance.
And same as dowsing, I need a metal detector for pinpointing. And also same as dowsing, I cannot win any big prize for "guessing" method.
But I will be happy to use "guessing" method for my treasure hunts, same as you are happy to use dowsing for your treasure hunts. :thumb:

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi J_P.
If you don't "play", then the problem is my "Bad English".
You have the tention to understand the oposite....., sorry.

Regards:)

J_Player
02-05-2011, 11:31 PM
Hi J_P.
If you don't "play", then the problem is my "Bad English".
You have the tention to understand the oposite....., sorry.

Regards:)Hi Geo,
I don't know what is "to play" or what is "tention to understand the oposite".
But I know I can show success to find coins on the beach at long distance equal or better than the best dowsing experts from Greece and from other countries when I use my "guess" method for long range locating.
I can also locate large treasures from extreme long distance using my "guess" method to locate very large treasures from more than 100 miles.
I can prove this in the same manner you can prove your dowsing works 20-30% success.
Only difference is my "guess" method will show better than 90% success.
I believe your dowsing works same as I believe my guessing works.
And I believe Randi and Carl-NC will not pay prize money when we demonstrate our success with dowsing or guessing.
I believe they will pay prize money only when we pass their tests.
My guessing cannot pass their test, and I think your dowsing cannot pass their test.
They will pay prize money only when we can tell which exact numbered location they hid the treasure, and they will not allow us to use a metal detector for pinpointing.

Best wishes,
J_P

Götz von Berlichingen
02-06-2011, 02:20 AM
Yeah, sure, lets wind a Coil on stainless Steel. :rolleyes:
Let me spell it for you: B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
Any further Questions ?

Geo
02-06-2011, 07:37 AM
Hi Geo,
I don't know what is "to play" or what is "tention to understand the oposite".
But I know I can show success to find coins on the beach at long distance equal or better than the best dowsing experts from Greece and from other countries when I use my "guess" method for long range locating.
I can also locate large treasures from extreme long distance using my "guess" method to locate very large treasures from more than 100 miles.
I can prove this in the same manner you can prove your dowsing works 20-30% success.
Only difference is my "guess" method will show better than 90% success.
I believe your dowsing works same as I believe my guessing works.
And I believe Randi and Carl-NC will not pay prize money when we demonstrate our success with dowsing or guessing.
I believe they will pay prize money only when we pass their tests.
My guessing cannot pass their test, and I think your dowsing cannot pass their test.
They will pay prize money only when we can tell which exact numbered location they hid the treasure, and they will not allow us to use a metal detector for pinpointing.

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi J_P.
I say that you understand the oposite from what i write or i mean!!!!.
I say that at beaches the success is big (near to 100%) but there is not reason to play with dowsing. A metal detector is enough for coins because they are only 5... 20cm inside the sand. But at the mountains when i am looking for big treasure then 20 or 30% is OK.
I am not interesting for the Carl's money because i like him:lol::lol:.
Remember when Esteban said to come for the test......, so forget it!!!!
I will tell you for another time.. you never saw a real dowsing man and for this reason you write what you write.

Regards:)

J_Player
02-06-2011, 08:14 AM
Hi J_P.
I say that you understand the oposite from what i write or i mean!!!!.
I say that at beaches the success is big (near to 100%) but there is not reason to play with dowsing. A metal detector is enough for coins because they are only 5... 20cm inside the sand. But at the mountains when i am looking for big treasure then 20 or 30% is OK.
I am not interesting for the Carl's money because i like him:lol::lol:.
Remember when Esteban said to come for the test......, so forget it!!!!
I will tell you for another time.. you never saw a real dowsing man and for this reason you write what you write.

Regards:)Hi Geo,
You are wrong.
I saw a real dowsing man who is a good friend.
This man was an astrophysicist who used dowsing to find gold nuggets in California, Alaska, Mexico, and many other places.
But he did not use a metal detector for pinpointing. He used only dowsing to recover gold nuggets.
I know what it looks like when a person is dowsing.
And I can tell you that my "guess" method to locate buried coins at the beach is much easier than dowsing, and it gives better success rate.
This is a fact!

You can come to my beach and show your dowsing... at the same time I will show my guessing...
I will guess the exact direction to look for buried coins in less than 2 seconds and I will guarantee that you will find at least 5 coins in the direction that I guess.
How long will it take for you to dowse for the same success as I can find in 2 seconds?

I can also guess the exact direction to find very large treasures located more than 100 miles distance...
How long will it take for you to dowse to find these same treasures?

I can also use my guess method in the mountains.
I was able to locate a very large iron deposit when I was in the mountains at 5300 feet altitude (1.6Km altitude).
The center of this large iron deposit was located about 4000 miles distance from where I was standing when I made my guess, and it is the largest iron deposit contained on the planet earth.
I cannot prove this by recovering all the iron, but I have read that scientists also agree the iron is located in the same place where I located it by my guess method, and they also say it is the largest iron deposit contained on the planet earth. So I am thinking my guess method works very well in the mountains.

I think my guessing is a more efficient method to locate treasures at long range than your dowsing.
Maybe if you practice more, then you will be able to dowse better than I can guess.

Best wishes,
J_P

Geo
02-06-2011, 11:15 AM
Hi Geo,
You are wrong.
I saw a real dowsing man who is a good friend.
This man was an astrophysicist who used dowsing to find gold nuggets in California, Alaska, Mexico, and many other places.
But he did not use a metal detector for pinpointing. He used only dowsing to recover gold nuggets.
I know what it looks like when a person is dowsing.
And I can tell you that my "guess" method to locate buried coins at the beach is much easier than dowsing, and it gives better success rate.
This is a fact!

You can come to my beach and show your dowsing... at the same time I will show my guessing...
I will guess the exact direction to look for buried coins in less than 2 seconds and I will guarantee that you will find at least 5 coins in the direction that I guess.
How long will it take for you to dowse for the same success as I can find in 2 seconds?

I can also guess the exact direction to find very large treasures located more than 100 miles distance...
How long will it take for you to dowse to find these same treasures?

I can also use my guess method in the mountains.
I was able to locate a very large iron deposit when I was in the mountains at 5300 feet altitude (1.6Km altitude).
The center of this large iron deposit was located about 4000 miles distance from where I was standing when I made my guess, and it is the largest iron deposit contained on the planet earth.
I cannot prove this by recovering all the iron, but I have read that scientists also agree the iron is located in the same place where I located it by my guess method, and they also say it is the largest iron deposit contained on the planet earth. So I am thinking my guess method works very well in the mountains.

I think my guessing is a more efficient method to locate treasures at long range than your dowsing.
Maybe if you practice more, then you will be able to dowse better than I can guess.

Best wishes,
J_P


Hi J_P.
I never told that i am better than your friend.
My friend who teached me the dowsing don't use metal detector, only the lrods.
Now about "guess".... it is not a good idea me to come to your beach to see your method. I think it is better solution you to came at Greece to locate a big treasure and to take the half. So you will gain the half treasure, the travel to Greece and one friend, me!!!

Regards:)

J_Player
02-06-2011, 07:14 PM
Hi J_P.
I never told that i am better than your friend.
My friend who teached me the dowsing don't use metal detector, only the lrods.
Now about "guess".... it is not a good idea me to come to your beach to see your method. I think it is better solution you to came at Greece to locate a big treasure and to take the half. So you will gain the half treasure, the travel to Greece and one friend, me!!!

Regards:)Hi Geo,
My friend also uses L rods, and he does not need to use metal detector to pinpoint nuggets. My guessing can find more treasure than his L rods. He only found less than 1/2 kilo of gold nuggets, but I found many stores full of jewelry from very long distance with my guessing.

It will be good to visit Greece for treasure hunting, and for good beaches, and islands, and excellent Greek restaurants. But I am too busy at my work. Still I can demonstrate my guessing method for treasures in Greece. My guessing method works for very long distances, so I will tell you where the treasure is, then you can take your metal detector for pinpointing. Remember, I am locating buried treasure in Greece at more than 11.000 Km distance, so the location will not be exact. You must do the final pinpointing before you recover the treasures and send 1/2 to me...

Ok.... I am guessing while I look at my world map....
I can tell you there are hundreds of locations of valuable treasures in Greece and many Greek treasures in the water from ships that sank with Greek treasures.
Here are a few Greek treasure locations to get started with:

Location 1: Athens
This location is difficult because there are many banks and jewelry stores that give confused signals to hide the treasure location guesses. I am getting many treasure location guesses, but at more than 11,000 Km, it is hard to pinpoint exactly where to dig. Maybe you can pinpoint these treasures and recover them.

Location 2: All islands in the southern Aegean sea to the south and east of Athens
I am guessing thousands of lost treasures in the waters near these islands. Of course I cannot say exactly where from 11,000 Km. You will need to use diving equipment and a waterproof PI detector to pinpoint and recover these.

Location 3: The mountains to the north of Athens
I am certain my guess will be proven true that there are many treasures in these mountains. Of course, it will take some time to pinpoint and recover these treasures. I would suggest taking some fishing and hunting equipment in case you become tired of pinpointing these treasures I located.

I can guess many other treasure locations in Greece, but it will be more accurate when I have time to visit and tell you the direction of the treasure at closer range. But still you must admit my guessing method is remarkably accurate at more than 11,000 Km distance. Please send a PM when you pinpoint the treasures I located so I can give you instructions where to ship my 50% :)

Best wishes,
J_P

Geo
02-06-2011, 09:17 PM
Hi J_P.
I agree.... but there is a problem.
I don't send money or treasures to unknown persons. So you must visit Greece and to meet me.

Regards:)

J_Player
02-06-2011, 09:23 PM
Hi J_P.
I agree.... but there is a problem.
I don't send money or treasures to unknown persons. So you must visit Greece and to meet me.

Regards:)Hehe...
Now you see the problem of long range locating from too much distance.
We will need to wait until I can visit Greece, then recover all the treasures I located.
Or you can recover them now and keep them :)

Best wishes,
J_P

mehdi
02-07-2011, 08:10 AM
hi to all
i build the electric dowsing rod but it is not work?!!!
can anyone help me please?

Geo
02-07-2011, 08:55 AM
hi to all
i build the electric dowsing rod but it is not work?!!!
can anyone help me please?

Hi.
I don't believe that this schematic works!!!!

Qiaozhi
02-07-2011, 10:19 AM
hi to all
i build the electric dowsing rod but it is not work?!!!
can anyone help me please?
I hope those are not CMOS ICs in your photo. :shocked:

mehdi
02-07-2011, 10:42 AM
hi qiaozhi
no not cmos ics but why?:lol:

Qiaozhi
02-07-2011, 03:21 PM
hi qiaozhi
no not cmos ics but why?:lol:
Because you have them embedded in polystyrene, and CMOS ICs can be destroyed by an electrostatic discharge. Just checking. ;)

Morgan
02-08-2011, 07:55 PM
hi to all
i build the electric dowsing rod but it is not work?!!!
can anyone help me please?


Hi,it looks Dr. Best project,it must work,chek everything.

mehdi
02-10-2011, 09:57 AM
hi morgan
sensitivity is very poor it sound near tv (about 15cm) but no reflex for any thing in more distant of 15cm. when i tuch the u brass the suond come to off.
where is the problem?

epitopios
02-10-2011, 12:01 PM
hi morgan
sensitivity is very poor it sound near tv (about 15cm) but no reflex for any thing in more distant of 15cm. when i tuch the u brass the suond come to off.
where is the problem?
maybe a gold sample here too !! just check it ( play with it)
friendly , epitopios

mehdi
02-11-2011, 05:46 PM
hi epitopios
wath is the mean of ( maybe a gold sample here too!! ) ?
please more description.
thanks
mehdi

Morgan
02-12-2011, 01:27 AM
hi epitopios
wath is the mean of ( maybe a gold sample here too!! ) ?
please more description.
thanks
mehdi

Adapt mini zahori antenna to transistor pin instead of U rod and see progress near TV screen.

mehdi
02-12-2011, 07:14 AM
hi morgan
ok but how?
mini zahori have 2 antenna (L1,L2) so L1 most conect to B of bc107 but L2 conect to where???? may be to ground? !!!
regards
mehdi

Morgan
02-13-2011, 04:48 PM
hi morgan
ok but how?
mini zahori have 2 antenna (L1,L2) so L1 most conect to B of bc107 but L2 conect to where???? may be to ground? !!!
regards
mehdi


Try only the small antenna who connect to B of transistor.
Later can use the other antenna connected to ground.Ans see results,its experiments.

epitopios
02-13-2011, 08:30 PM
ZAHORI ANTENNA

Before :

http://i.imgur.com/syozx.jpg

and after :

http://i.imgur.com/TlGEf.jpg

regards , epitopios

Geo
02-13-2011, 09:11 PM
ZAHORI ANTENNA

Before :

http://i.imgur.com/syozx.jpg

and after :

http://i.imgur.com/TlGEf.jpg

regards , epitopios

Η τρελα που θα παει????
Εβαλες μια σπειρα παραπανω...(11)
:)

epitopios
02-13-2011, 09:38 PM
Η τρελα που θα παει????
Εβαλες μια σπειρα παραπανω...(11)
:)
αετίσιο μάτι έχεις ? (eagle eye you have ) xa xa xa ,πάντως κάτι λαλάει μολις κοντευει κιτρινο
http://i.imgur.com/941Fi.jpg

Geo
02-13-2011, 09:57 PM
αετίσιο μάτι έχεις ? (eagle eye you have ) xa xa xa ,πάντως κάτι λαλάει μολις κοντευει κιτρινο
http://i.imgur.com/941Fi.jpg

Αυτο καλα το εκανες.....
Τα ιοντα που θα τα βρεις στον αερα:lol:

epitopios
02-13-2011, 10:08 PM
Αυτο καλα το εκανες.....
Τα ιοντα που θα τα βρεις στον αερα:lol:
θα τα πετύχω στις εκπτώσεις !!!!:p

g-sani
02-13-2011, 10:17 PM
Ohh...:oh:, I was thinking that coil and sample should be between L1 and cct.
Well may be is not a problem being all the way arround.

What do you say about this Geo?
How about you Morgan?

Morgan
02-14-2011, 02:15 AM
Ohh...:oh:, I was thinking that coil and sample should be between L1 and cct.
Well may be is not a problem being all the way arround.

What do you say about this Geo?
How about you Morgan?


I think no problem,only experiments with antenna.
The gold sample is in the place.

mehdi
02-14-2011, 08:26 AM
hi geo and epitopios
can i want you please write ENGLISH!!!!
thanks

Qiaozhi
02-14-2011, 10:08 AM
hi geo and epitopios
can i want you please write ENGLISH!!!!
thanks
Translation:
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Geo:
The madness will go;;;;
You put a coil above ... (11)

Epitopios:
aetisio eye you; (Eagle eye you have) xa xa xa, however, something just is about Lala yellow

Geo:
This well did you do .....
The ions will find it in the air

Epitopios:
will succeed in discounts!!
-----------------------------------

Please (everyone) write in English!

mehdi
02-14-2011, 10:20 AM
Hi Qiaozhi
thanks for Translation