Morgan's LRL Demonstration - Live Testing [Archive]

J_Player

08-30-2009, 02:24 AM

This thread is to report and discuss the results of Morgan's live LRL demonstration.

On August 29 2009, Morgan began his live LRL demonstration to show any forum members who wish to see his LRLs performing in the field. He demonstrated several Mineoro models, a prototype pistol detector made by Alonos, a clone of the Alonso pistol that Morgan made, and several other LRLs he had in his collection. While the demonstration is open to all forum members, only Geo showed up to see the demonstrations and test the LRLs. Morgan also recruited a local skeptic to watch as well.

These demonstrations and tests are not done yet. They will continue a couple more days with videos and photos taken before they are done. Then we will see some reports and videos that can be accessed from links in this forum to see what they filmed during the demonstration and testing. The first report is shown below, which came in earlier today from Morgan:

Hi to all

I return from the LRL tests,i was with Geo and another person also skeptic.

Report of this tests near the gold medal buried more than 20 years ago.

1-Geo take one L rod and find imediatly the place where the medal is buried. This is realy amazing !!!

2-After this we try Mineoro models (PDC210,DC2006,DC2008) near the medal and only DC2008 start beeps but only 1 meter over the gold...

3-I get signals with my PD clone and Alonso Pistoldetektor 2m or more from the gold medal,also Geo try Alonso PD and get the same results.

4-Near my Field test we locate one piece of silver paper 15cm buried and 3meters distance.
And finaly we get another sigal 2m distance,i dig one nice old silver ring but near it was one iron can,this convince 100% my portuguese friend,but i hope Geo also become not skeptic after this simple demonstrations.

5- Our friend Geo bring with him LRL device who give beeps 3m near the gold .

All was recorded in video DVD.

Regards to all

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Originally posted by Morgan
In this LRL videos everybody can see how dificult is the PD calibration until we get the correct point when he start detecting the small targets,i do this more esay but Geo also get point and the signals.
People here,all should understand PHENOMENON is real.

Feel free to post your comments below and look for more posts from Morgan and Geo here.

My best wishes and thanks to Morgan and Geo for taking the time and expense to show this demonstration for the forum to see.
J_P

Max

08-30-2009, 08:40 AM

This thread is to report and discuss the results of Morgan's live LRL demonstration.

On August 29 2009, Morgan began his live LRL demonstration to show any forum members who wish to see his LRLs performing in the field. He demonstrated several Mineoro models, a prototype pistol detector made by Alonos, a clone of the Alonso pistol that Morgan made, and several other LRLs he had in his collection. While the demonstration is open to all forum members, only Geo showed up to see the demonstrations and test the LRLs. Morgan also recruited a local skeptic to watch as well.

These demonstrations and tests are not done yet. They will continue a couple more days with videos and photos taken before they are done. Then we will see some reports and videos that can be accessed from links in this forum to see what they filmed during the demonstration and testing. The first report is shown below, which came in earlier today from Morgan:

Feel free to post your comments below and look for more posts from Morgan and Geo here.

My best wishes and thanks to Morgan and Geo for taking the time and expense to show this demonstration for the forum to see.
J_P

Hi,
it's interesting demonstration I think and , of course, I'm happy that people like them are ready to spend money and time in serious experiments, much for just scientific interest I think, though as skeptic I always am on same position about LRLs it's nice see people approaching the problem from a practical point of view.
I will see video and posts about that, as explained by Morgan seems something happened in front of witnesses Geo and the other purtugese witness.

Till now we heard of a number of unverified claims about e.g. PD clone, but this test could clarify some aspects... about it.

At least... seems a good attempt.

But I wait for Geo's report about tests and , of course, videos.

Kind regards,
Max

okantex

08-30-2009, 09:07 AM

Hi Morgan ,

Did you record how does Geo use L rods to locate gold medal?
and what was the distance to locate it by Lrods?

kind regards
Okantex

J_Player

08-30-2009, 09:13 AM

...Did you record how does Geo use L rods to locate gold medal?
and what was the distance to locate it by Lrods?Yes, I would like to see this too. Can you take some video of Geo finding some buried metal with his dowsing rods, and including digging the buried metal and all empty holes too?

Also, can you use the camera to take an interview with the skeptic observer? It would be good to see an interview with him like we see on TV during the news, so we can see what he says about before and after he sees the LRLs find targets. Don't worry if it is not in English, we have translators who can tell us the text of what is said.

Thank you for all the testing,

Best wishes,
J_P

okantex

08-30-2009, 09:22 AM

J_Player

08-30-2009, 09:42 AM

Hi J_player ,
no need to dig it ,using any VLF detector which could discriminate by sound is enough .
no need to diminish effect of long time buried metal. they may need this metal target for several tests later and during this video takings.
regards
OkantexSure, for the targets in the test garden, they should not be disturbed. But for an open field with unknown trash, I think it is good to dig the metals same as you would on any treasure hunt, to see what you found, or maybe nothing in the hole?

Best wishes,
J_P

J_Player

08-30-2009, 11:25 PM

Hi all

Today Geo was with me in the radio amateur laboratory.
He measure the frequencies of my PD clone and the Alonso PD.
The real PD frequencies are diferent from my PD clone and he as also diferent freq. in his PD made in Greece.
I let this technical language between Geo and the forum,he is the rigth person to explain to the RS forum members this measurments.

Regards to all Thank you Morgan and Geo. :)
We will be looking for your reports and videos soon.

Best wishes,
J_P

Morgan

08-30-2009, 11:25 PM

Hi Morgan ,

Did you record how does Geo use L rods to locate gold medal?
and what was the distance to locate it by Lrods?

kind regards
Okantex
Hi

He get one L rod (who works at 50V) and walk around my field test ,in one minute,and maybe by coincidence,he get one spot,the buried gold medal...

Morgan

08-30-2009, 11:37 PM

Yes, I would like to see this too. Can you take some video of Geo finding some buried metal with his dowsing rods, and including digging the buried metal and all empty holes too?

Also, can you use the camera to take an interview with the skeptic observer? It would be good to see an interview with him like we see on TV during the news, so we can see what he says about before and after he sees the LRLs find targets. Don't worry if it is not in English, we have translators who can tell us the text of what is said.

Thank you for all the testing,

Best wishes,
J_P
Hi

Geo start playng with the L rod only for entertainment before we start the real LRL tests with electronic devices. I saw Geo become surprised with the L rod result,sometimes dowsing as lucky days...
About the portuguese skeptic,he become less skeptic when Geo find small silver paper at 3m distance(with unquestionable beeps) and NOT SKEPTIC whe we dig the first jewlry item,the silver ring clear signal at 2 m distance.
After cleaning the ring,its maybe more than 80 years old. Maybe the short 2m distance its becouse it was one iron can near the ring.

regards

Morgan

08-30-2009, 11:40 PM

Sure, for the targets in the test garden, they should not be disturbed. But for an open field with unknown trash, I think it is good to dig the metals same as you would on any treasure hunt, to see what you found, or maybe nothing in the hole?

Best wishes,
J_P
During this tests we didnt dig even one empty hole ;)

J_Player

08-30-2009, 11:57 PM

About the portuguese skeptic,he become less skeptic when Geo find small silver paper at 3m distance(with unquestionable beeps) and NOT SKEPTIC whe we dig the first jewlry item,the silver ring clear signal at 2 m distance.Hi Morgan,
Is it possible to take the camera to make a video interview with this skeptic like we see on the news programs? It would be good to ask him what he believed before and after he saw the demonstrations. Your report is good, but better to hear from the words of the witness. Don't worry if it is not in English, we have translators who can tell us the text of what is said.

Best wishes,
J_P

Morgan

08-31-2009, 12:04 AM

Hi Morgan,
Is it possible to take the camera to make a video interview with this skeptic like we see on the news programs? It would be good to ask him what he believed before and after he saw the demonstrations. Your report is good, but better to hear from the words of the witness. Don't worry if it is not in English, we have translators who can tell us the text of what is said.

Best wishes,
J_P
Hi

Me and the portuguese witness we was using hat and dark glasses during the films,but for Geo no problem.
You should understand the TH hobby is diferent here than in your country(more free),so we take precautions.

Regards

J_Player

08-31-2009, 12:09 AM

Hi

Me and the portuguese witness we was using hat and dark glasses during the films,but for Geo no problem.
You should understand the TH hobby is diferent here than in your country(more free),so we take precautions.

RegardsOk, I understand.
Maybe you can make a film of Geo to talk about what he sees this skeptic say before and after seeing LRLs work. This will be good information to help understand what was happening at the demonstration.

Thank you for excellent work in demonstrating LRLs. :super:

Best wishes,
J_P

okantex

08-31-2009, 08:45 AM

Hi Morgan and Geo ,

Excuse me for my bad understanding,
what do you mean by
"Hi

He get one L rod (who works at 50V) and walk around my field test ,in one minute,and maybe by coincidence,he get one spot,the buried gold medal...
"

1) one L rod ???.........L rods are generally used as one L rod at each hands and both parallel to each other.

2) who works at 50V ???? ,, does it have battery connection.

Could you arrange photo of the L rod unit which Geo used at your test field ,please ??

Kind regards ,and good luck
Okantex

Esteban

08-31-2009, 02:04 PM

Hi

Geo start playng with the L rod only for entertainment before we start the real LRL tests with electronic devices. I saw Geo become surprised with the L rod result,sometimes dowsing as lucky days...
About the portuguese skeptic,he become less skeptic when Geo find small silver paper at 3m distance(with unquestionable beeps) and NOT SKEPTIC whe we dig the first jewlry item,the silver ring clear signal at 2 m distance.
After cleaning the ring,its maybe more than 80 years old. Maybe the short 2m distance its becouse it was one iron can near the ring.

regards

Iron near the valuable target absorb greatly the phenomenon or field.

Morgan

08-31-2009, 03:44 PM

Theseus

08-31-2009, 03:57 PM

This L Rod as special batteries inside.
I think Geo found the spot with this device,just by chance.

If anything at all was found with that L-rod, it would be a good assumption to believe it happened strictly by chance.

I really hope this "live testing" was carried out within the guidelines of a good test protocol. ;)

Qiaozhi

08-31-2009, 05:21 PM

This L Rod as special batteries inside.
I think Geo found the spot with this device,just by chance.
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I'm glad that you said "just by chance", otherwise the other testing would be called into question. ;)

When can we expect to see the videos?

putrechigi

08-31-2009, 06:31 PM

you all know that I have always believed in Morgan and Esteban :), now I'm particularly happy that the forum starts to convence the fact that the phenomenon was real:) and familiar to some people before many years (see one of my old posts) now i hope
that the approach to the world of lrl and with more 'seriousness' and constructively by all parties
reguards manolo

detectoman

08-31-2009, 07:05 PM

thanks morgan for you say always for ever the truth respect to rods, you how honest man, should say strict always the pure truth, too respect to pd, or rod or everyvary, never lie please

if rod is good should dectect in all moment the objetives, find any thing ocasionally is fortuite because the soil is all full of trash

ivconic

08-31-2009, 07:09 PM

Hold on your horses friend!
We haven't seen anything yet!
First we need to see videos, than to hear from Geo's personal view and than we can debate further.
So far i can read here just empty claims, simillar to many in the past.
With respect to all of you, but we are at the same position as before - no proofs, no facts, no primers .... nothing.
Personally i do respect Geo much, but it doesn't mean i will take everything from him on first glance. We need videos, Geo's story and time to think and analyze. Step by step.
Regards!

ivconic

08-31-2009, 07:15 PM

This L Rod as special batteries inside.
I think Geo found the spot with this device,just by chance.
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That L rod (with batt or without it) is just ordinary dowsing apparatus. So..if Geo founded something with it for real than it can be just coincidental find and Geo is most probably very successfull dowser with pretty trained mental capabilities (how else can i put that and not to offend him - my respectfull friend?). Rod itself is just funny apparatus and nothing else.

Morgan

08-31-2009, 11:14 PM

I'm glad that you said "just by chance", otherwise the other testing would be called into question. ;)

When can we expect to see the videos?
Hi

We reduced the films to the most interessing parts,but anyway we cant have less than 40 Megabytes.
I can divided into parts of less than 10MGB each one.
So i should sent to you first? Give me your E-mail in PM.

Regards

Morgan

08-31-2009, 11:23 PM

That L rod (with batt or without it) is just ordinary dowsing apparatus. So..if Geo founded something with it for real than it can be just coincidental find and Geo is most probably very successfull dowser with pretty trained mental capabilities (how else can i put that and not to offend him - my respectfull friend?). Rod itself is just funny apparatus and nothing else.

Hi

This L-Rod bellongs to me,not Geo,and it was ofered to me in Germany long time ago. Geo was just playing with this Rod in the FIELD TEST,and just by chance found the GOLD MEDAL spot.
Of course L-Rods are just for entertainment,noting serious.

Morgan

08-31-2009, 11:30 PM

Morgan

08-31-2009, 11:37 PM

I'm glad that you said "just by chance", otherwise the other testing would be called into question. ;)

When can we expect to see the videos?
The second witness is the person who make the film,so you only can ear his voice,and probably other voices of people who was near the LRL demonstrations.Sorry for my bad english in the LRL video.

ivconic

08-31-2009, 11:59 PM

Hi

We reduced the films to the most interessing parts,but anyway we cant have less than 40 Megabytes.
I can divided into parts of less than 10MGB each one.
So i should sent to you first? Give me your E-mail in PM.

Regards

Why dont you upload those at YouTube? I guess it would be much easier...

Morgan

09-01-2009, 12:03 AM

Why dont you upload those at YouTube? I guess it would be much easier...
I dont have experience with this sistem,hope its easy.

ivconic

09-01-2009, 12:17 AM

Hi

This L-Rod bellongs to me,not Geo,and it was ofered to me in Germany long time ago. Geo was just playing with this Rod in the FIELD TEST,and just by chance found the GOLD MEDAL spot.
Of course L-Rods are just for entertainment,noting serious.

Sure...never mind which was the rod, doesnt make any differences.

Let me tell you the short story;
i am 100% sceptic. 1000%. Pure essential sceptic, you may say.
Ok. That is fact.
Now... few years ago i was on some terrain with few friends. We took with us our detectors; White's Eagle II, some Compass and some Fisher. After 2-3 hours of prospecting we looked for nice shade under some tree to take a short rest.
We sat and talked. All of the sudden subject of discussion turned to be lrl and simillar stuff.
To make joke in front of my friends i stood up and shattered a branch from that tree. I shaped it in "Y" form and started to act as i am dowsing, arround.
Those were confused, looking closelly what am i doing. Of course i was joking, it was just ordinary act. I felt nothing..no "signals", no "spiritual" energy, nothing. I just felt few mosquitos and nothing else.:lol:
At one spot, several meters away from the place i was previously sitting, the "Y" rod in my hands slipped downwards by pretty random coincidence.
So, with very serious face i told to my friends " Look! I have "signal" here!"
Those were pretty sure that i was joking. Of course i was joking. But than one of my friends came with Eagle II and checked that spot. Eagle II detected something!!! So we dug and at 30cm depth we founded 4 bullets, complete, not used !!! At that very moment my friends started to look at me with very strange and curious looks! Somehow they started to beleive that i was real dowser with some supernatural senses! Ahahhahah! :lol::lol::lol:
Of course i abused that situation and for the rest of the day i continued to act like i do know something they dont. Lot of fun!
But of course it was just stupid and random coincidence! Since than i never successfully repeated anything simillar in my life. It was just that time and never again...
So.... "sheet" are hapening for real! :lol::razz::lol:
How to explain that? I could continue to fool myself and to beleive in that...
But i didn't. And i still do not beleive and of course, aside beleifs, i do know those things are bogus, not real. Many times later aproved, checked, tested and established as bogus and unreal.

ivconic

09-01-2009, 12:31 AM

I dont have experience with this sistem,hope its easy.

It is easy. You must register and join there - piece of cake. Than you can upload videos. Try and see, not a big deal.

Morgan

09-01-2009, 01:02 AM

The second witness is the person who make the film,so you only can ear his voice,and probably other voices of people who was near the LRL demonstrations.Sorry for my bad english in the LRL video.
Sorry for the low resolution of this images.
You can see Geo holding Alonso PD
The red PD,my last clone
And the silver ring
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Morgan

09-01-2009, 01:16 AM

Sorry for the low resolution of this images.
You can see Geo holding Alonso PD
The red PD,my last clone
And the silver ring
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We detect targets,PHENOMENON created by the aluminium and easy detect with Pistoldetektor,in the last atempt to find coin or something better,we found one single valuable target ,the silver ring...

J_Player

09-01-2009, 02:26 AM

To make joke in front of my friends i stood up and shattered a branch from that tree. I shaped it in "Y" form and started to act as i am dowsing, arround.
Those were confused, looking closelly what am i doing. Of course i was joking, it was just ordinary act. I felt nothing..no "signals", no "spiritual" energy, nothing. I just felt few mosquitos and nothing else.:lol:
At one spot, several meters away from the place i was previously sitting, the "Y" rod in my hands slipped downwards by pretty random coincidence.
So, with very serious face i told to my friends " Look! I have "signal" here!"
Those were pretty sure that i was joking. Of course i was joking. But than one of my friends came with Eagle II and checked that spot. Eagle II detected something!!! So we dug and at 30cm depth we founded 4 bullets, complete, not used !!! At that very moment my friends started to look at me with very strange and curious looks! Somehow they started to beleive that i was real dowser with some supernatural senses! Ahahhahah! :lol::lol::lol:
Of course i abused that situation and for the rest of the day i continued to act like i do know something they dont. Lot of fun!
But of course it was just stupid and random coincidence! Since than i never successfully repeated anything simillar in my life. It was just that time and never again...
So.... "sheet" are hapening for real! :lol::razz::lol:Hmmmm....
Have you considered that maybe you were fooled by unseen forces that made the Y-rod fall in the location of treasure?
Think for a minute...
We have read stories how Jinns move treasures under the ground, and these Jinns can make themselves invisible to treasure hunters.
It does not matter if you believe in stories of Jinns or not...
If they are real and they are there, then it is possible an invisible Jinn moved the Y-rod to fall in that location, while you were thinking it is a random accident of nature. Then when your friend decides to check for buried metal, this Jinn can move some old bullets to the location without being seen.
Of course, the Jinn will not move real treasure there, because they like to keep real treasures for themselves more than we do.

Maybe this story of hypothetical Jinn visit is not fact, but we can never be sure until making tests with Jinn detectors to prove no Jinns were there.
So it is also possible this could be a true account of how you found buried bullets with a Y-rod. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

Esteban

09-01-2009, 05:00 AM

Hello Morgan, hello Geo.

Send to eslucagri@gmail.com

I'll put in line.

Max

09-01-2009, 08:45 AM

Hello Morgan, hello Geo.

Send to eslucagri@gmail.com

I'll put in line.

online

ivconic

09-01-2009, 09:50 AM

Hmmmm....
Have you considered that maybe you were fooled by unseen forces that made the Y-rod fall in the location of treasure?
Think for a minute...
We have read stories how Jinns move treasures under the ground, and these Jinns can make themselves invisible to treasure hunters.
It does not matter if you believe in stories of Jinns or not...
If they are real and they are there, then it is possible an invisible Jinn moved the Y-rod to fall in that location, while you were thinking it is a random accident of nature. Then when your friend decides to check for buried metal, this Jinn can move some old bullets to the location without being seen.
Of course, the Jinn will not move real treasure there, because they like to keep real treasures for themselves more than we do.

Maybe this story of hypothetical Jinn visit is not fact, but we can never be sure until making tests with Jinn detectors to prove no Jinns were there.
So it is also possible this could be a true account of how you found buried bullets with a Y-rod. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

:lol:
I used to know one Jinne, but she was not there at that moment! :lol:

Max

09-01-2009, 01:03 PM

:lol:
I used to know one Jinne, but she was not there at that moment! :lol:

this one ? :D

Esteban

09-01-2009, 02:09 PM

online

Thanks! online...

Morgan

09-02-2009, 01:32 AM

Hello Morgan, hello Geo.

Send to eslucagri@gmail.com

I'll put in line.
I will send the films as soon as possible,now i need to put in parts less than 10 MGb each one.

Regards

Fred

09-02-2009, 02:31 AM

I will send the films as soon as possible,now i need to put in parts less than 10 MGb each one.

Regards
Hi Morgan,
Why don´t you put it on youtube?
It´s very simple,free and easier for you.

Clondike Clad

09-02-2009, 04:10 AM

Sorry for the low resolution of this images.
You can see Geo holding Alonso PD
The red PD,my last clone
And the silver ring
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What a crock of bull:nono:
Let us test the detector or upload it to YOUTUBE.
This is pure crap.

Max

09-02-2009, 07:17 AM

I will send the films as soon as possible,now i need to put in parts less than 10 MGb each one.

Regards

Hi,
if you don't know how to do send to Esteban as suggested by him, I think he will then post on youtube or even also rapidshare (maybe is better if file is big) for people to download.

I think youtube is good, but if people wanna see a number of times offline is maybe better using rapidshare.

Also, another good reason... if wanna some little "control" on who will see it (like people of here) and don't spread worldwide to anyone rapidshare is a good solution... one can upload there... let people download giving link... then remove if not needed anymore.

Kind regards,
Max

Fred

09-02-2009, 12:07 PM

Max

09-02-2009, 01:30 PM

I think you can restrict access on youtube too.But others may confirm this.
Anyway you don´t really need to send it to anyone to do this, you can just go to yourube , create an account (2 minutes) and upload the movie.
If there is enought views (if no access restriction) you may even win money :)

Hmmm... nice idea...

think about if I made a movie... of Esteban's PaloAlto experiences... and put on youtube... then say 1000000 people watch it and like...

the question is , how much I will win ??? :D

Kind regards,
Max

maimoune

09-02-2009, 02:36 PM

Hi... morgane
thank you
good luck
Best Regards

Fred

09-02-2009, 02:39 PM

Hmmm... nice idea...

think about if I made a movie... of Esteban's PaloAlto experiences... and put on youtube... then say 1000000 people watch it and like...

the question is , how much I will win ??? :D

Kind regards,
Max
I´m not sure if people will be interested,
but i heard that above 50 000 views per month youtube pays between 100 and 200€ , but will change policy soon so more people with less hints can win- with adverts of course.

Esteban

09-02-2009, 05:11 PM

Send to easy-share. Press browse and select the file from your computer. After, upload it and wait. You'll obtain a link. Copy this (save) and post.

http://www.easy-share.com/

Morgan

09-02-2009, 09:50 PM

Hi,
if you don't know how to do send to Esteban as suggested by him, I think he will then post on youtube or even also rapidshare (maybe is better if file is big) for people to download.

I think youtube is good, but if people wanna see a number of times offline is maybe better using rapidshare.

Also, another good reason... if wanna some little "control" on who will see it (like people of here) and don't spread worldwide to anyone rapidshare is a good solution... one can upload there... let people download giving link... then remove if not needed anymore.

Kind regards,
Max
Yes,the files are very long,so i reduced and make number sequence of 9 films with less than 10 MGb each one.
Today i will send to Qiaozhi and he will try to put in this forum.