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peroon
06-18-2009, 12:20 AM
Hello friends!
This only i have. A man gave a link to this on email.
It is new product from Mineoro for July 2009.
I am very interested but dont have details.
Anybody can help and give here details? Please!
Many thanks!
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=195da4b0e77ffede08f8df73f2072ed6e04e75f6 e8ebb871
Hello friends!
This only i have. A man gave a link to this on email.
It is new product from Mineoro for July 2009.
I am very interested but dont have details.
Anybody can help and give here details? Please!
Many thanks!
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=195da4b0e77ffede08f8df73f2072ed6e04e75f6 e8ebb871
If it's from Mineoro...well better not having details! :D
I think it's just another W.N.F.T.I.D.R.B.G.F.M.W.B.I.A.F.W.M. :
worth-nothing-fairy-tale-ideomotoric-driven-randomic-beep-generator-for-morons-who-buy-it-and-feed-wallet-miners
:lol:
peroon
06-20-2009, 03:13 AM
Most probably. I got it on one of my emails from some man. Posted actually just for fun...not for real. But...maybe...just maybe...!?:lol:
Most probably. I got it on one of my emails from some man. Posted actually just for fun...not for real. But...maybe...just maybe...!?:lol:
Hi,
I don't know about the specific model... but my idea of Mineoro's is that are all about the same.... means that don't work as LRL.
But who knows ?
I think that if something will work as claimed... ture LRL, people will report here pretty soon...
but I think we'll read, most probably, complains about that... like happened in past noy only for mineoro's but also for iconos and other claimed working stuff...
Only way to know is wait and see... cause I think nobody will risk thousands dollars just for to know if works or not... people who spend that money are induced to think the device WORKS... but so far all revealed as scams in past.
So better wait and see... that's my advice.
Kind regards,
Max
Peroon...to many "click here" for me. I value my hard drive. Could you be a little more specific on the device you query?
peroon
06-21-2009, 08:50 AM
I can not upload (attach) files here, that's why i gave link.
Most probably cose i am new member here. I presume must be some time or posts limit to pass and than to be able to upload files?
So if some of older members can do that - please do.
To me this looks more like some simple and obscure metal detector design, rather than lrl.
Like i said; i got email from some man with this. Nothing else, just this pic.
I see nothing of interest in that picture...
apart the way it was downloaded! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
This PCB is BS, peroon don´t you have nothing better to do ?
Qiaozhi
06-21-2009, 03:45 PM
Peroon...to many "click here" for me. I value my hard drive. Could you be a little more specific on the device you query?
Hmmm .... it must be the Ad Blocker in the Linux version of Firefox, because I didn't encounter any dodgy ads, popups, or extra clicks ... just a simple straightforward download. Although I'm not sure why I bothered. What was the question? :???:
Hmmm .... it must be the Ad Blocker in the Linux version of Firefox, because I didn't encounter any dodgy ads, popups, or extra clicks ... just a simple straightforward download. Although I'm not sure why I bothered. What was the question? :???:
Hmmmm... must be that website that's full of c.r.a.p... :lol:
I downloaded that thing by a remote machine located... elsewhere! :D
Then performed some checks and thus, after seen that also the picture is full of c.r.ap. (just to be polite...) I realized what a waste of time it was...
but then , to avoid other people mess with that link... I posted for everyone. ;)
Kind regards,
Max
I have not found anything special either to download the picture,(using firefox), but i wonder why someone could spend so much time making a bogus PCB ?
I have not found anything special either to download the picture,(using firefox), but i wonder why someone could spend so much time making a bogus PCB ?
I don't know... maybe just to infect your computer I think...
and open some backdoor maybe...
What do you think ? :D
Kind regards,
Max
Theseus
06-22-2009, 12:48 PM
I don't know... maybe just to infect your computer I think...
and open some backdoor maybe...
What do you think ? :D
Kind regards,
Max
They probably didn't spend any time at all. It's really rather easy to grab some random PC board drawing off the Internet, post it here, and claim it to be an LRL.
mmmh...But this one in non-functional. So it must have been done on purpose.
You can see unconnected transistor, and nonsense PCB traces.
Maybe Max is right, but ti have found no trojans, and in that case something found on the net would be enought.
Esteban
06-22-2009, 04:27 PM
This is a real PCB of dual input - double filter pistol.
Qiaozhi
06-22-2009, 05:32 PM
This is a real PCB of dual input - double filter pistol.
Are we going to see the schematic?
Are we going to see the schematic?
Of course not... unless you mean the stamp-sized version of it! :lol:
This is a real PCB of dual input - double filter pistol.
Is that the design i suggested that will cancel ambient noise? no components side i presume ? :D
peroon
06-22-2009, 10:47 PM
mmmh...But this one in non-functional. So it must have been done on purpose.
You can see unconnected transistor, and nonsense PCB traces.
Maybe Max is right, but ti have found no trojans, and in that case something found on the net would be enought.
Maybe is not transistor, maybe it is zener diode or some reference diode..or just transistor used as diode.
It is not complete bogus. I analyzed it a bit detailed. There is some sense in wirements. However, without component values it is uselles.
Maybe is not transistor, maybe it is zener diode or some reference diode..or just transistor used as diode.
It is not complete bogus. I analyzed it a bit detailed. There is some sense in wirements. However, without component values it is uselles.
I don´t think so.If you analysed it please explain what i put ine red.They are the same connection.
And the 2 transistors what do they do ?
peroon
06-22-2009, 11:52 PM
I don´t think so.If you analysed it please explain what i put ine red.They are the same connection.
And the 2 transistors what do they do ?
What you put in red???! :lol:
You may "put in red" whatever you want, does not mean you are right?
I dont see connections there, i see wire jumpers instead. One of us is colorblind. Check your eyes or your monitor and try again.:D
peroon
06-22-2009, 11:58 PM
2 transistors on left-upper side looks like oscillator. Other 2 transistors in the left-middle side looks like audio/scale drivers. Just an assumption. Without values i can't be sure, of course.
What you put in red???! :lol:
You may "put in red" whatever you want, does not mean you are right?
I dont see connections there, i see wire jumpers instead. One of us is colorblind. Check your eyes or your monitor and try again.:D
What i have put in red is traces that are electrically connected.
What you put in red???! :lol:
You may "put in red" whatever you want, does not mean you are right?
I dont see connections there, i see wire jumpers instead. One of us is colorblind. Check your eyes or your monitor and try again.:D
peroon...you somehow sound as if you are connected/involved with this scheme.
'Sup with that?
Esteban
06-23-2009, 02:54 AM
Schematic.
peroon
06-23-2009, 08:33 AM
What i have put in red is traces that are electrically connected.
Most of those are. But one is not. Look down at wire jumpers. That one makes huge difference.
peroon
06-23-2009, 08:36 AM
peroon...you somehow sound as if you are connected/involved with this scheme.
'Sup with that?
That sounds like accusation. Is it sin to post here something and to be involved in? According to majority here - it is huge sin! Now i know how beleivers feel here.
Jim you are not so smart.
Esteban
06-23-2009, 02:02 PM
That sounds like accusation. Is it sin to post here something and to be involved in? According to majority here - it is huge sin! Now i know how beleivers feel here.
Jim you are not so smart.
Calm! Use this strategy: Respond only to serious inquiries. And let talks alone others!
Calm! Use this strategy: Respond only to serious inquiries. And let talks alone others!
posting schematics with no values ? :lol:
posting schematics with no values ? :lol:
dont forget it is about new secret working LRL
peroon
06-23-2009, 04:13 PM
No, i am not involved. Jim assumed wrong. Like i said, i just received that file on my email and that is all. Detailed analyze can show it is not bogus. I can not see any "technical" problem on pcb. Other question is; is it workable or not. I dont want to judge about it without knowing components values and pcb in/out wirements. I was hoping someone else would recognize this pcb and help with additional infos. That's why i posted link at the first place.
Seems WM6 is right - it is to much secret!:lol:
dont forget it is about new secret working LRL
so... nothing new... they are all secret! :lol:
I think I will better don't waste my time with these secrets and start reorder my socks tray... :D
Kind regards,
Max
That sounds like accusation. Is it sin to post here something and to be involved in? According to majority here - it is huge sin! Now i know how beleivers feel here.
Jim you are not so smart.
Jim just happens to be smarter than the average bear.
Dollars to donuts this thread spins into another "Mineore works good...last long time" brew-ha :eek:
peroon
06-24-2009, 08:33 AM
Oh man oh man. Doesnt really matter.
It would be interesting to see complete schematic with values. Further it can be analyzed and see what kind of electronic device it was. No need to debate about lrl functionallity here. How can you not dissociate those two subjects here? I am not interesting to know your personal attitude upon lrl's here (to all members here). I am interested to see electronic side of this device. It is shame for us sceptics (i am sceptic No.1 here) cose we are not even ready to more seriously analyze any eventual project. Name it "lrl" or whatever, but if it is projected as electronic device, with circuits and some logic - than i am always ready to analyze it and see what idea and electronic principle was used, involved in.
So give at least some chance here.
Before any analyze ever started, all of the sudden all the, so called "sceptics" appeared here and started spitting and mockery!
Those do reminds me for real on some religious fanatics. Least to some good will, electronic enthusiasts.
Keep your personal agendas for yourself. I already know each one of you with all your opinions and agendas.
Posting that pcb here i was hoping to see some more constructive approach - not same old, usuall and pretty vapid repeating of same old phrases.
RS threads are full of those. On one side there are beleivers with their same old behavior - on other side there are sceptics, again, with their same old behavior. And this "game" is just continuing with same pace.
Let's change the pace for a while. Let's not repeat again and again same things. By now we all already showed our attitude to public.
I am sceptic also, but i want to explore electronic side of so called 'lrl's.
Or...better to do that by my own and stay away from public?
Oh man oh man. Doesnt really matter.
It would be interesting to see complete schematic with values. Further it can be analyzed and see what kind of electronic device it was. No need to debate about lrl functionallity here. How can you not dissociate those two subjects here? I am not interesting to know your personal attitude upon lrl's here (to all members here). I am interested to see electronic side of this device. It is shame for us sceptics (i am sceptic No.1 here) cose we are not even ready to more seriously analyze any eventual project. Name it "lrl" or whatever, but if it is projected as electronic device, with circuits and some logic - than i am always ready to analyze it and see what idea and electronic principle was used, involved in.
So give at least some chance here.
Before any analyze ever started, all of the sudden all the, so called "sceptics" appeared here and started spitting and mockery!
Those do reminds me for real on some religious fanatics. Least to some good will, electronic enthusiasts.
Keep your personal agendas for yourself. I already know each one of you with all your opinions and agendas.
Posting that pcb here i was hoping to see some more constructive approach - not same old, usuall and pretty vapid repeating of same old phrases.
RS threads are full of those. On one side there are beleivers with their same old behavior - on other side there are sceptics, again, with their same old behavior. And this "game" is just continuing with same pace.
Let's change the pace for a while. Let's not repeat again and again same things. By now we all already showed our attitude to public.
I am sceptic also, but i want to explore electronic side of so called 'lrl's.
Or...better to do that by my own and stay away from public?
Hi,
but the picture you posted is BS... cause nobody can make any reverse engineering of something like that... there are no value/labels... so that board could be anything... including some old-style air conditioner control circuit... :lol:
The tracks themselves don't tell anything of what's what you posted...
So what we are talking about here ?
The picture serves nothing, is nothing by itself and , by now, we are talking of nothing.
That's what I think. If have something more interesting post that, and people will try to understand what is it and all the other stuff... like identifing components etc...
Otherwise we can also quit here this thread. :rolleyes:
Kind regards,
Max
peroon
06-25-2009, 08:46 AM
"...so that board could be anything... including some old-style air conditioner control circuit....."
I agree. But we are "moving in circle" here. Just because i dont have complete project - i posted it here, in hope someone else who possibly know details, will help and complete it.
Keeping in mind many simillar opamps designs i traced this pcb and spotted some logic. Seems like it has TX and RX part for real. RX part is pretty obscure and strange to me. Rather looking like some complicated band pass filter with huge attenuation? But...ok..if everybody else here agree to quit this thread, than i can do nothing against that...
"...so that board could be anything... including some old-style air conditioner control circuit....."
I agree. But we are "moving in circle" here. Just because i dont have complete project - i posted it here, in hope someone else who possibly know details, will help and complete it.
Keeping in mind many simillar opamps designs i traced this pcb and spotted some logic. Seems like it has TX and RX part for real. RX part is pretty obscure and strange to me. Rather looking like some complicated band pass filter with huge attenuation? But...ok..if everybody else here agree to quit this thread, than i can do nothing against that...
Hi,
:lol: if Rx stage seems pretty obscure design you probably have also schematic...
I don't know... some devices here (claimed working as LRLs) have similar logic... you have to filter out e.g. rf emissions... like broadcast radio signal in the FM band and "listen" for other stuff...
I saw Esteban posted maybe 1hundred strange pictures of things claimed working that way... many of them uses old FM receivers but not integrated , they have IF filters and anything old style... some also have germanium diodes at AM section but seems FM is the band or the "bands" they are looking for...
Read many messages related to changing RX section ... e.g. cut a turn from FM tuning section then you'll go higher than 108Mhz in upper VHF maybe around 110-130Mhz or add turn to go in lower VHF under 88Mhz cause you need "clear" from emissions rx frequency....
Sure you're not listening to a station there... you need out-tune the radio... so maybe your RX thing is like that... tune on a special range in the VHF then filter much of the "noise".
I don't know which could be the principle (if any , logic) for doing so...
I remember there was older magazines talking about gold detected by radio (in that case seems it was by AM receiver... magazines I mean are VERY old) but seems to me a big pile of BS.
I mean... in the case of big gold ore deposits could also be true... but for small stuff like a coin ??? Who will ever find a coin that way !?
Maybe Alonso... who knows... but I'm really skeptic that these things really works as "explained"... of course, if they works... and I'm skepting too about.
Till now I saw just big claims... no facts.
Kind regards,
Max
This is not any Mineoro model.
Esteban
06-25-2009, 01:45 PM
Before any analyze ever started, all of the sudden all the, so called "sceptics" appeared here and started spitting and mockery!
Those do reminds me for real on some religious fanatics. Least to some good will, electronic enthusiasts.
Keep your personal agendas for yourself. I already know each one of you with all your opinions and agendas.
These guys everyday is more far for to obtain... nothing!
This is not any Mineoro model.
So it's a lucky day... :razz:
Before any analyze ever started, all of the sudden all the, so called "sceptics" appeared here and started spitting and mockery!
Those do reminds me for real on some religious fanatics. Least to some good will, electronic enthusiasts.
Keep your personal agendas for yourself. I already know each one of you with all your opinions and agendas.
These guys everyday is more far for to obtain... nothing!
cause there's nothing to obtain... LRL are dreams. :rolleyes:
Esteban
06-25-2009, 05:24 PM
For some guys is a nightmare, because can't make it.
Regards
Esteban
For some guys is a nightmare, because can't make it.
Regards
Esteban
just cause they think the LRLs work... :lol:
Luckly I haven't that trouble... :D
My sleep is very quiet.:cool:
Kind regards,
Max
For some guys is a nightmare, because can't make it.
Regards
Esteban
What a mess... I'm posting double
Maybe is the wine... I'm right now making a toast to the LRL-pretenders...
God bless... for the fun!
Kind regards,
Max
Esteban
06-26-2009, 02:06 PM
just cause they think the LRLs work... :lol:
Luckly I haven't that trouble... :D
My sleep is very quiet.:cool:
Kind regards,
Max
You're nightmare is diurnal! :razz: But you sleep quiet! :rolleyes:
peroon
06-26-2009, 02:22 PM
My "forummare" would become diurnal reading your (to all of you) banter! :razz:
Each time man post something with prefix "lrl" same banter occurs here!? :razz:
Oh...if it could only remain just banter...!
Each time man post something with prefix "lrl" same banter occurs here!? :razz:
Problem is that we have yet to find someone who can show how a lrl works.
Yet when they post they make afirmations how well they do work.
So arrives the time proofs are asked for.
Esteban
06-26-2009, 03:01 PM
My "forummare" would become diurnal reading your (to all of you) banter! :razz:
Each time man post something with prefix "lrl" same banter occurs here!? :razz:
Oh...if it could only remain just banter...!
Of course, just banters the "bantered" knows! :lol:
Esteban
06-26-2009, 03:05 PM
What a mess... I'm posting double
Maybe is the wine... I'm right now making a toast to the LRL-pretenders...
God bless... for the fun!
Kind regards,
Max
Do you use your IR toaster? :razz:
Do you use your IR toaster? :razz:
As expected it doesn't work as LRL... but I had no dubts about...
THE DESIGN IS YOURS! :lol:
detectoman
06-27-2009, 12:32 AM
esteban very much hot glue how suspicious, dell projects, jajaja
Esteban
06-27-2009, 05:05 AM
As expected it doesn't work as LRL... but I had no dubts about...
THE DESIGN IS YOURS! :lol:
CORRECTION: The idea is mine, but is your implementation/design. :razz: :lol:
peroon
06-27-2009, 09:06 AM
SHARE HERE !
esteban very much hot glue how suspicious, dell projects, jajaja
Hi,
:lol:
I just respected the #1 rule in LRL construction: using ALOT of hot melt glue! :razz:
Cause seem there's the secret of LRL... is the glue that vibrates to the frequency of gold! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
CORRECTION: The idea is mine, but is your implementation/design. :razz: :lol:
Hi,
I just implemented what you said to do... nothing more... nothing less.
Took a 555 used to drive two IR leds... and put a radio in the middle... FM tuned...:D
Now... that we know that doesn't work (but I know even before made such c.r.a.p.) you cannot say that I made it wrong to justify that it don't work as claimed... :nono:
So it's your design fake... not my prototype! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
Clondike Clad
06-27-2009, 02:51 PM
Do you use your IR toaster? :razz:
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IN THE BLAZING HELL IS THIS CIRCUIT.
WHY IS IT POSTED AND WHO IS IT POSTED FOR.
I MUST SAY IT IS PURE B/S IF THIS IS THE MAKING OF A LRL.HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE
oT DID WE STUDY THE WRONG ELECTRONICS oK LET STAT ALL OVER WITH OUR STUDYS FIRST I=E/R :razz: Oh gold and DNA what crap.
Ok i will go back to LURKING.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IN THE BLAZING HELL IS THIS CIRCUIT.
WHY IS IT POSTED AND WHO IS IT POSTED FOR.
I MUST SAY IT IS PURE B/S IF THIS IS THE MAKING OF A LRL.HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE
oT DID WE STUDY THE WRONG ELECTRONICS oK LET STAT ALL OVER WITH OUR STUDYS FIRST I=E/R :razz: Oh gold and DNA what crap.
Ok i will go back to LURKING.
Was made just to show to the world that making as he described... in his "design" will produce "something" that will not work as LRL ...as claimed by him...
Cause here people think that skeptics are good just hitting the keyboard and heating up the arm chairs! :razz:
That's the answer: implemented the non-sense and demonstrated it doesn't work... :D
Kind regards,
Max
Theseus
06-27-2009, 04:11 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IN THE BLAZING HELL IS THIS CIRCUIT.
WHY IS IT POSTED AND WHO IS IT POSTED FOR.
I MUST SAY IT IS PURE B/S IF THIS IS THE MAKING OF A LRL.HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE
oT DID WE STUDY THE WRONG ELECTRONICS oK LET STAT ALL OVER WITH OUR STUDYS FIRST I=E/R :razz: Oh gold and DNA what crap.
Ok i will go back to LURKING.
The circuit is of course BOGUS!
Some folks get their kicks surfing the net for p___, while others get off by making outlandish and false claims on LRL forums.... and posting "secret" bogus circuits.
Whatever trips your trigger. :D
Esteban
06-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Hi,
:lol:
I just respected the #1 rule in LRL construction: using ALOT of hot melt glue! :razz:
Cause seem there's the secret of LRL... is the glue that vibrates to the frequency of gold! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
So, show me a pic that was posted by me with excess of melt glue like your "system"! :lol: Yes, your system! :lol: If you can't find it, you're lying! :razz: :lol:
Esteban
06-27-2009, 04:17 PM
Hi,
I just implemented what you said to do... nothing more... nothing less.
Took a 555 used to drive two IR leds... and put a radio in the middle... FM tuned...:D
Now... that we know that doesn't work (but I know even before made such c.r.a.p.) you cannot say that I made it wrong to justify that it don't work as claimed... :nono:
So it's your design fake... not my prototype! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
No, is not exactly my implementation, and for you doesn't work because, as I explain and you know, this doesn't work only. :nono: Use a FM mode and hear and "process" low variation with beeper. In ALL THESE YEARS, you don't understand nothing of it! :lol:
Esteban
06-27-2009, 04:20 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IN THE BLAZING HELL IS THIS CIRCUIT.
WHY IS IT POSTED AND WHO IS IT POSTED FOR.
I MUST SAY IT IS PURE B/S IF THIS IS THE MAKING OF A LRL.HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE
oT DID WE STUDY THE WRONG ELECTRONICS oK LET STAT ALL OVER WITH OUR STUDYS FIRST I=E/R :razz: Oh gold and DNA what crap.
Ok i will go back to LURKING.
I note you don't pay attention or you're abscense in forum. This is a Max BS, not mine. :razz: :lol: My BS are more fine. :lol:
Esteban
06-27-2009, 04:24 PM
The circuit is of course BOGUS!
Some folks get their kicks surfing the net for p___, while others get off by making outlandish and false claims on LRL forums.... and posting "secret" bogus circuits.
Whatever trips your trigger. :D
Of course is bogus! Max believe that this works... with nothing! So, he suffer excess of faith! :lol: The more sad is this: he know how must be implemented and post this BS. :razz:
Esteban
06-27-2009, 04:51 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IN THE BLAZING HELL IS THIS CIRCUIT.
WHY IS IT POSTED AND WHO IS IT POSTED FOR.
I MUST SAY IT IS PURE B/S IF THIS IS THE MAKING OF A LRL.HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE HOT GLUE
oT DID WE STUDY THE WRONG ELECTRONICS oK LET STAT ALL OVER WITH OUR STUDYS FIRST I=E/R :razz: Oh gold and DNA what crap.
Ok i will go back to LURKING.
Man, do you lose the compass? :lol: Here the Max "interpretation" :razz: :lol::
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15448&page=2
Clondike Clad
06-27-2009, 07:10 PM
Man, do you lose the compass? :lol: Here the Max "interpretation" :razz: :lol::
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15448&page=2
Are we talking north or true north as far as a compass.
BUT AS YOU KNOW WE MUST HAVE PROOF ON THIS FORUM ARE BE PREPARE TO BE CHALLENGE. NOW I CAN GO BACK TO LURKING
Of course is bogus! Max believe that this works... with nothing! So, he suffer excess of faith! :lol: The more sad is this: he know how must be implemented and post this BS. :razz:
I know ? :rolleyes:
No... I made PD clone... reverse engineered everything and got a common MD + maybe a goldgun that does nothing... :lol:
Of course, another brilliant design from there... center of LRL-world! :D
Kind regards,
Max
I have an idea to simply try LRL , and it requires no much work:
Take a FM radio, tap the first IF, rectify and smooth it, and make it trigger some audio device . (opamp + 555 for example)
Then check if there are anomalies in the way it beeps.
If it does then you can begin to improve it.
Esteban could confirm if this is a good way to begin...
J_Player
06-28-2009, 04:43 AM
Are we talking north or true north as far as a compass.We are talking about the north that is shown on a compass.
Best wishes,
J_P
Esteban
06-28-2009, 07:59 PM
We are talking about the north that is shown on a compass.
Best wishes,
J_P
Maybe his compass use astatic needles and can't found the north... :lol:
Esteban
06-28-2009, 08:03 PM
I know ? :rolleyes:
No... I made PD clone... reverse engineered everything and got a common MD + maybe a goldgun that does nothing... :lol:
Of course, another brilliant design from there... center of LRL-world! :D
Kind regards,
Max
So, if you are sure since the first moment, why replicate it? :razz:
Ask Morgan if he achieve success or not...
Clondike Clad
06-28-2009, 08:10 PM
Maybe his compass use astatic needles and can't found the north... :lol:
Funny You should say that.
BUT THE FACT IS PROOF IS STILL NEEDED ON THIS LRL STUFF.:nono:
SO SHOW US, FUNNY MAN A REAL WORKING LRL THAT CAN DETECT A COIN AT 1O METERS OR A GOLD 1OZ BAR AT 10 METERS.
WHY NOT JUST GO FOR THE MILLION OR CARL'S 25K
WHAT ABOUT POSTING A REAL CIRCUIT THAT WORKS.:razz:
Esteban
06-28-2009, 08:43 PM
Funny You should say that.
BUT THE FACT IS PROOF IS STILL NEEDED ON THIS LRL STUFF.:nono:
SO SHOW US, FUNNY MAN A REAL WORKING LRL THAT CAN DETECT A COIN AT 1O METERS OR A GOLD 1OZ BAR AT 10 METERS.
WHY NOT JUST GO FOR THE MILLION OR CARL'S 25K
WHAT ABOUT POSTING A REAL CIRCUIT THAT WORKS.:razz:
The 1,000,000 is for other stuff like LRL rods and mediums, spiritism, "occult sciences", etc., no for real electronics. The 25,000 is not enough. Maybe 50,000, tickets for plane for 2, food, hotel, movement free, etc. Also the prize is over, I think...
J_Player
06-28-2009, 11:31 PM
The 1,000,000 is for other stuff like LRL rods and mediums, spiritism, "occult sciences", etc., no for real electronics. The 25,000 is not enough. Maybe 50,000, tickets for plane for 2, food, hotel, movement free, etc. Also the prize is over, I think...Hi Esteban,
The $1,000,000 is for electronic LRLs too.
Randi conducted a test when Dell Winders used an electronic LRL to locate hidden coins. See details here: http://www.randi.org/jr/200511/111805setback.html#i9
At the time of Dell's test, the prize was only $10,000. But now the same test is for $1,000,000. Dell did not succeed in winning the prize, and he declined to try again at another chance to win the full $1,000,000. But maybe your LRLs can win the prize.
Best wishes,
J_P
Esteban you missed my post . :D
Esteban
06-29-2009, 02:59 PM
I have an idea to simply try LRL , and it requires no much work:
Take a FM radio, tap the first IF, rectify and smooth it, and make it trigger some audio device . (opamp + 555 for example)
Then check if there are anomalies in the way it beeps.
If it does then you can begin to improve it.
Esteban could confirm if this is a good way to begin...
Also you can use the 455 Khz IF of AM, but with the condition you must disconnect the ferrite. I experiment this frequency. But I experiment with a RF circuit you can see in pic. Around this FI is an IC in wich you obtain audio produced by the mixing. You must to touch with a cable pins of the IC and found in wich pin you hear the audio ups. Now, this is your connection for antenna. With this I detect a gold-platted watch I have buried since 15 years, at first adjustment intermitent. Go to labo. Change a cristal and detection occurs continuosly. The same night of this experiment I found small gold platted chain by Rommanel in my house and big copper coin platted by gold in inland. Big old bronze gove only a beep, but the gold platted coin was detected for more than 1 minute at 30 meters. (Don't know why somebody platted a copper coin by gold.) This apparatus is good for regular terrain. When you adjust in a plain and later you go in more high terrains inestability comes, so you must to re-adjust for this new situation.
I remember that in 1998 or 1999 found in internet a site in wich describe "how to find gold with 455 Khz" or similar title. When I intent open, appears the famous "404 page not found". Who clossed the page? :lol:
Esteban you missed my post . :D
intentionally! :lol:
Also you can use the 455 Khz IF of AM, but with the condition you must disconnect the ferrite. I experiment this frequency. But I experiment with a RF circuit you can see in pic. Around this FI is an IC in wich you obtain audio produced by the mixing. You must to touch with a cable pins of the IC and found in wich pin you hear the audio ups. Now, this is your connection for antenna. With this I detect a gold-platted watch I have buried since 15 years, at first adjustment intermitent. Go to labo. Change a cristal and detection occurs continuosly. The same night of this experiment I found small gold platted chain by Rommanel in my house and big copper coin platted by gold in inland. Big old bronze gove only a beep, but the gold platted coin was detected for more than 1 minute at 30 meters. (Don't know why somebody platted a copper coin by gold.) This apparatus is good for regular terrain. When you adjust in a plain and later you go in more high terrains inestability comes, so you must to re-adjust for this new situation.
I remember that in 1998 or 1999 found in internet a site in wich describe "how to find gold with 455 Khz" or similar title. When I intent open, appears the famous "404 page not found". Who clossed the page? :lol:
Hi,
"I remember that in 1998 or 1999 found in internet a site in wich describe "how to find gold with 455 Khz" or similar title. When I intent open, appears the famous "404 page not found". Who clossed the page?"
The NSA , of course, cause otherwise the big amount of gold found by hobby THers in the USA will lead to some US economy breakdown! :razz:
How to find gold with 455Khz ??? What the **ck !? to be polite :lol:
Is like the old story of the AM radio that found gold deposit... hmmmm... urban legends and LRLs mix very well... kinda of chocolate and pepper... :razz:
Now... you said that if one pick up an old telephone (cause this of above WAS a cordless if I remember well) with IF filters at 455Khz ... then tap to the input of mixer and connect an antenna (of course crazy design as explained in other threads) one is able to detect gold from remote ?????? :lol:
Is that easy so ?
Kind regards,
Max
Esteban
06-29-2009, 05:36 PM
Hi,
"I remember that in 1998 or 1999 found in internet a site in wich describe "how to find gold with 455 Khz" or similar title. When I intent open, appears the famous "404 page not found". Who clossed the page?"
The NSA , of course, cause otherwise the big amount of gold found by hobby THers in the USA will lead to some US economy breakdown! :razz:
How to find gold with 455Khz ??? What the **ck !? to be polite :lol:
Is like the old story of the AM radio that found gold deposit... hmmmm... urban legends and LRLs mix very well... kinda of chocolate and pepper... :razz:
Now... you said that if one pick up an old telephone (cause this of above WAS a cordless if I remember well) with IF filters at 455Khz ... then tap to the input of mixer and connect an antenna (of course crazy design as explained in other threads) one is able to detect gold from remote ?????? :lol:
Is that easy so ?
Kind regards,
Max
Of course...! :razz: If you persist and experiment... all is possible. :razz: The antenna wire to the IC must be very thin... Now... what is between the telescopic antenna and the fine wire? :lol: Maybe you know! :lol: Remember in the black connector is good level audio.
Esteban
06-29-2009, 05:49 PM
Hi Esteban,
The $1,000,000 is for electronic LRLs too.
Randi conducted a test when Dell Winders used an electronic LRL to locate hidden coins. See details here: http://www.randi.org/jr/200511/111805setback.html#i9
At the time of Dell's test, the prize was only $10,000. But now the same test is for $1,000,000. Dell did not succeed in winning the prize, and he declined to try again at another chance to win the full $1,000,000. But maybe your LRLs can win the prize.
Best wishes,
J_P
Hi J_P
Maybe must be read application. Omnitron has electronic circuit inside, but is with dowsing rods.
Look in the Randi's page:
"In short, dowsing seems to be a fickle talent. In my opinion, it doesn’t exist at all. But the JREF has a million dollars ready to give Dell Winders – or anyone else! – who can make this dowsing rod – or any dowsing device – work as advertised. Anyone out there?"
I'm sure that the application is not for electromagnetics apparatus like a PD.
Regards
Esteban
Of course...! :razz: If you persist and experiment... all is possible. :razz: The antenna wire to the IC must be very thin... Now... what is between the telescopic antenna and the fine wire? :lol: Maybe you know! :lol: Remember in the black connector is good level audio.
Now also the x-thing! :D
Are we going to see references to KRYPTONITE in your next posts!? :razz:
Be clear... call it with its name! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
Esteban
06-30-2009, 02:19 PM
Now also the x-thing! :D
Are we going to see references to KRYPTONITE in your next posts!? :razz:
Be clear... call it with its name! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
No kryptonite, nothing strange, A PASSIVE THING (at first sight)... maybe you can solve... :lol:
No kryptonite, nothing strange, A PASSIVE THING (at first sight)... maybe you can solve... :lol:
A vacuum/glass/mica/silver/gold/mercury/antimonium/tantalum/tin/plated/doped/with/kryptonite/south/american/capacitor ? :lol:
Maybe is enough...
Or maybe not... LRL is a science! :D
Kind regards,
Max
Esteban
06-30-2009, 02:26 PM
A vacuum/glass/mica/silver/gold/mercury/antimonium/tantalum/tin/plated/doped/with/kryptonite/south/american/capacitor ? :lol:
Maybe is enough...
Or maybe not... LRL is a science! :D
Kind regards,
Max
You failed! :razz:
You failed! :razz:
Cause answered you!
Any answer will be not god when moving in the LRL-dimension!:lol:
Like in Dr. Hung's experiment of time travel with his modified RT! :razz:
Kind regards,
Max
Esteban
06-30-2009, 02:33 PM
Cause answered you!
Any answer will be not god when moving in the LRL-dimension!:lol:
Like in Dr. Hung's experiment of time travel with his modified RT! :razz:
Kind regards,
Max
Bla, bla, bla... :lol:
Bla, bla, bla... :lol:
?
Don't you belive Dr. Hung claimed his Nobel prize ??? :razz:
I think he could also do... he made a modified RT capable of detecting coins in the fog... at 1mile distance! :shocked:
Call the guinness! :lol:
Kind regards,
Max
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