Free energy - truths and delusions

[ivconic]

Qiaozhi gave very interesting link;

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

I think it is good to see that some ideas are not new at all. Also if we want to achieve something, first we must be awared of all truths and delusions about this subject.

I think there must be a way to get free energy from magnets. But first must void all the usuall "pitfalls" which previous explorers entraped in.
So material posted on this link can serve as good staring point to go further.
It is certain risk to explore this subject and talk to loud in public about it, cose man can easilly being rated as charlatan. I dont have such fears - i am already "an charlatan" ! :lol::razz::D
So do not waste your time to mock me here , but better sit and think a bit more about this interesting subject.

[Max]

Qiaozhi gave very interesting link;

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm (http://www.lhup.edu/%7Edsimanek/museum/unwork.htm)

I think it is good to see that some ideas are not new at all. Also if we want to achieve something, first we must be awared of all truths and delusions about this subject.

I think there must be a way to get free energy from magnets. But first must void all the usuall "pitfalls" which previous explorers entraped in.
So material posted on this link can serve as good staring point to go further.
It is certain risk to explore this subject and talk to loud in public about it, cose man can easilly being rated as charlatan. I dont have such fears - i am already "an charlatan" ! :lol::razz::D
So do not waste your time to mock me here , but better sit and think a bit more about this interesting subject.

Even better is meditation with the aid of some herbs... :rolleyes:

Stimulus for brain (maybe) ... at least... seems this was inspiration for our beloved Gomer... ops Dell... :D

At least seems he replaced the herbs... with hot melt glue... but seems effects are similar! :lol:

BTW free energy not... but eco , reliable and cheap energy seems more possible... just requires lot of investment in time, money and brain cells I think.... about like with the herbs stuff! :cool:
I read of people working at cold-fusion using scientific approach and an old patent... not I don't remember well but seems they are doing good...:rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[ivconic]

Yeah! I am desperate user of some herb, named "tobacco" (cancer guarantee....like hell, and only according to new world order proponents...and of course only for those who are stupid enough to beleive in new era propaganda. Same which claims homo******ity is normal!......Wow! Look how all this things are connected!!!?)
So i dont need any more herbs in my life! Maybe some liquid "herbs" with addition of good old alchohol!!! :razz:
When i said "free" i ment free from paying it to new (and old too) world order. I didnt mean "free" as "from nothing". There is no energy in nothing. But there is energy in things that hold certain ammount of it (am i smart or what?).
So...firstly i would like to distinguish power of magnets. Is it just a "power" or it is "energy" also? :razz::lol::D:p


Max...say...is it famous reagge singer or african ape? Dont use that herb! Turns man to ape!

[Max]

Yeah! I am desperate user of some herb, named "tobacco" (cancer guarantee....like hell, and only according to new world order proponents...and of course only for those who are stupid enough to beleive in new era propaganda. Same which claims homo******ity is normal!......Wow! Look how all this things are connected!!!?)
So i dont need any more herbs in my life! Maybe some liquid "herbs" with addition of good old alchohol!!! :razz:
When i said "free" i ment free from paying it to new (and old too) world order. I didnt mean "free" as "from nothing". There is no energy in nothing. But there is energy in things that hold certain ammount of it.
So...firstly i would like to distinguish power of magnets. Is it just a "power" or it is "energy" also? :razz::lol::D:p


Max...Say...is it famous reagge singer or african ape? Dont use that herb! Turns man to ape!

:lol:

He's Bob Marley... but seems , really , an ape I agree! :D

Now, coming back to the topic... you wanna make energy... hmmmm...

So why not considering windmills ? I posted a link about them... they uses actually magnets... are alternators... AC generator... then you add a triphase bridge rectifier... et voilla ... you got from 700W to also 3KW of free electric energy... not bad I say! ;)

I think it's time to make some wind-farm.... problem is that I have no space for windmills at my place....:shocked:

Kind regards,
Max

[ivconic]

:lol:

He's Bob Marley... but seems , really , an ape I agree! :D

Now, coming back to the topic... you wanna make energy... hmmmm...

So why not considering windmills ? I posted a link about them... they uses actually magnets... are alternators... AC generator... then you add a triphase bridge rectifier... et voilla ... you got from 700W to also 3KW of free electric energy... not bad I say! ;)

I think it's time to make some wind-farm.... problem is that I have no space for windmills at my place....:shocked:

Kind regards,
Max

Problem is that I have no wind at my place! :lol:
I already explained that somewhere in this forum. So weak and ocassional wind here....so i can not use windimill.... or...i can check my luck with vertical windmill design...?

[Fred]

Problem is that I have no wind at my place! :lol:
I already explained that somewhere in this forum. So weak and ocassional wind here....so i can not use windimill.... or...i can check my luck with vertical windmill design...?
Windmill are a pain, and there is plenty of wind here.
My father had one:It was so crazy when wind was strong! blades broken twice, very expensive ones in carbon.There was pieces stuck 20cm in the ground some 50meters away...(well, almost, but you got the idea)
So i took the generator an made a watermill with it.Used spoons for cups,it has been working for years now.
Doesn´t produce many amps, but 24hrs a day .
Of course you need water :rolleyes:

[J_Player]

Problem is that I have no wind at my place! :lol:
I already explained that somewhere in this forum. So weak and ocassional wind here....so i can not use windimill.... or...i can check my luck with vertical windmill design...? No wind?
Hmmm...
Maybe try solar energy. This is free. Put as many solar panels as you want, then a large battery bank to save the power for night use. I have seen solar panel installations that collect all the power needed for a home including electric washer and dryer machine.
Also, use direct solar heat to heat air or water that is moved through a heat storage medium for recovery later when needed. Solar heated homes work that way. Also good for solar water heaters.

Another free energy is to collect used cooking oil from restaurants. This oil can be treated to use in diesel engines. But even without treating, you can burn it as fuel oil to heat air or water. In the USA, used cooking oil from restaurants is free. The restaurants need to pay money to have this oil disposed of, so they give it free to anyone who brings a tank to fill and take it away.

Free energy from a magnet? This does not sound promising. But maybe....
If you have a large coil attached to a satellite, and the satellite moves around the earth in an orbit where it crosses between the north and south poles of the earth, then you have built an "earth alternator". The frequency is equal to the complete cycle time of one orbit revolution of the satellite. So this is an extremely low frequency AC alternator. Of course, you will need a rectifier on the coil, and a way to store the charge collected.... Maybe a 5-pf capacitor could do this...?

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

Windmill are a pain, and there is plenty of wind here.
My father had one:It was so crazy when wind was strong! blades broken twice, very expensive ones in carbon.There was pieces stuck 20cm in the ground some 50meters away...(well, almost, but you got the idea)
So i took the generator an made a watermill with it.Used spoons for cups,it has been working for years now.
Doesn´t produce many amps, but 24hrs a day .
Of course you need water :rolleyes:

Yes. Each windimill setup (horizontal or vertical) has advantages and disadvantages. Main disadvantage of horizontal design is weak response on strong wind attacks which usually ends like you described.

[ivconic]

No wind?
Hmmm...
Maybe try solar energy. This is free. Put as many solar panels as you want, then a large battery bank to save the power for night use. I have seen solar panel installations that collect all the power needed for a home including electric washer and dryer machine.
Also, use direct solar heat to heat air or water that is moved through a heat storage medium for recovery later when needed. Solar heated homes work that way. Also good for solar water heaters.

Another free energy is to collect used cooking oil from restaurants. This oil can be treated to use in diesel engines. But even without treating, you can burn it as fuel oil to heat air or water. In the USA, used cooking oil from restaurants is free. The restaurants need to pay money to have this oil disposed of, so they give it free to anyone who brings a tank to fill and take it away.

Free energy from a magnet? This does not sound promising. But maybe....
If you have a large coil attached to a satellite, and the satellite moves around the earth in an orbit where it crosses between the north and south poles of the earth, then you have built an "earth alternator". The frequency is equal to the complete cycle time of one orbit revolution of the satellite. So this is an extremely low frequency AC alternator. Of course, you will need a rectifier on the coil, and a way to store the charge collected.... Maybe a 5-pf capacitor could do this...?

Best wishes,
J_P

Solar energy is probably the best choice! Problem is those cells are very expensive. Need a little fortune to buy enough number of cells to cover average house consumption. Sun we do have enough, space also....

[doncaffe]

Hi Iv. :)
Whats going on ?? I see you make a big fire with a topic about Free Energy.
If you want to use solar energy, serach the web and find a threads how to make solar cells from copper plates and technology of it. Maybe cells are the best choice, maybe not. Max idea about elephants fuel is great. But could you import some elephants in your country. Maybe its illegal. I wish you a big fortune . You will need it. Regards

[Fred]

Do you know that if you open the case of a TO3 transistor (or any metallic transistor), you obtain a small solar cell ?
Can be used as phototransistor too.

[ivconic]

Do you know that if you open the case of a TO3 transistor (or any metallic transistor), you obtain a small solar cell ?
Can be used as phototransistor too.


Ha,ha,ha!!! I know that already. :razz:

[ivconic]

Hi Iv. :)
Whats going on ?? I see you make a big fire with a topic about Free Energy.
If you want to use solar energy, serach the web and find a threads how to make solar cells from copper plates and technology of it. Maybe cells are the best choice, maybe not. Max idea about elephants fuel is great. But could you import some elephants in your country. Maybe its illegal. I wish you a big fortune . You will need it. Regards

I want easy stuff. Dont want to bug myself to much with krafting...Besides...copper is also very expensive.
Magnets are in my focus lately. Maybe just a waste of time, will see.

[Max]

I want easy stuff. Dont want to bug myself to much with krafting...Besides...copper is also very expensive.
Magnets are in my focus lately. Maybe just a waste of time, will see.

Hmmmmm... magnets... I see...

Seems like you found some tons of them... somewhere... :lol:

Now you're looking for a way to use them and produce energy....:D

Am I right ?;)

BWT... I was talking of simple windmills , vertical kind, made mostly of an epoxy disc with coils inside... then a rotating plate with magnets... connected with just 3 blades... made of wood or wood+epoxy stuff (to make them stronger): this configuration provide easy 0.7 - 0.8 KW in strong wind... with blades not that long.... BUT sure you need wind to make it work... so if no wind... better try with sun or other stuff.

Had you thoughts on geo-thermal energy ? Like geysers... You know... make a long drill in the soil... then reach some hot-spot underground used to heat-up water and get free steam... you can then convert into electric energy by a small turbine/generator system. Problem is that you may need very deep drilling in the soil... like happens with oil research... things are similar, also costs. But if you have e.g. natural hot-water source near you... you may think at it too, maybe need just 50-100 meters deep drilling to get the steam. The system is widely used in Iceland... and other places.... but you need some volcanic activity under your feet...

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi Iv. :)
Whats going on ?? I see you make a big fire with a topic about Free Energy.
If you want to use solar energy, serach the web and find a threads how to make solar cells from copper plates and technology of it. Maybe cells are the best choice, maybe not. Max idea about elephants fuel is great. But could you import some elephants in your country. Maybe its illegal. I wish you a big fortune . You will need it. Regards

:D well... not my idea... someone else calculated that an elephant can fart in a day enough methane to fuel a mid sized car to run for about 40Km at cruise speed... :lol:

Really! It's so... cause one adult african elephant eat each day...about 1ton of grass... they are all the time in search of that grass... so the digestive process works over about 1ton of grass for each elephant every day!

That will produce about 2m^3 of methane (plus other hydrocarbons) every day ...extruded from the elephant... then... we know that a mid-sized car methane fueled needs about... 6m^3/100Km... thus 60l/km of methane required... that means 2000l gives about 33.333 Km

But... there's a round about effective production of other gases ...hydrocarbons that gives about 40Km with day production....

Remember: many alternative energy stuff is related to $hit... of cows, of chickens... etc etc all from farms.

Also... the methane produced that way and not employed for e.g. fuel/energy will simply go in the atmosphere increasing global-warming (methane is more dangerous than CO2 about that). ;)

So I do suggest anyone buy a big elephant an feed it with plenty of grass... just have dubts on HOW the gas will be collected...:lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[ivconic]

Yes...i agree, but than it will be problematic to "pipe up" that gas from elephant to heating system or turbine...right? :razz::lol:
Besides..we do not need elephant. Enough will be to all the familly memebrs eat beans for each meal...But than again "pipe up" problem persists....huh! No solution at all!

[J_Player]

Yes...i agree, but than it will be problematic to "pipe up" that gas from elephant to heating system or turbine...right? :razz::lol:
Besides..we do not need elephant. Enough will be to all the familly memebrs eat beans for each meal...But than again "pipe up" problem persists....huh! No solution at all!
Ok, Ivconic,
Here is an easy project to make free hot water for $5 USD. Use scrap parts to build it. see here: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/make_a_solar_wa.php
I see many homes near where I live that have solar tube heaters on the roof of the house to heat water that work similar to this. Also, many swimming pool heaters are made from black plastic tubes in the sun. These tubes will heat the pool water to very comfortable temperatures for swimming. The copper tubes used for hot water cost more. But for the project shown, the copper is free from a trash refrigerator.

Here is another project that will heat water for the whole home for small cost: http://www.motherearthnews.com/Renewable-Energy/1979-09-01/A-Homemade-Solar-Water-Heater.aspx

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Ok, Ivconic,
Here is an easy project to make free hot water for $5 USD. Use scrap parts to build it. see here: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/make_a_solar_wa.php
I see many homes near where I live that have solar tube heaters on the roof of the house to heat water that work similar to this. Also, many swimming pool heaters are made from black plastic tubes in the sun. These tubes will heat the pool water to very comfortable temperatures for swimming. The copper tubes used for hot water cost more. But for the project shown, the copper is free from a trash refrigerator.

Here is another project that will heat water for the whole home for small cost: http://www.motherearthnews.com/Renewable-Energy/1979-09-01/A-Homemade-Solar-Water-Heater.aspx

Best wishes,
J_P

JP... don't tell me... you found a job for Hung... as pool related solar heater installer guy... of course, with his own modified RT in the pocket...of jeans... and another guy that sound the buzzer for him when the RT falls down from house-roof... :lol:

Of course, Dell is the number 3 of the plot... will address advertising and marketing of "services"... tank-debunkering included! :D

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

JP... don't tell me... you found a job for Hung... as pool related solar heater installer guy... of course, with his own modified RT in the pocket...of jeans... and another guy that sound the buzzer for him when the RT falls down from house-roof... :lol:

Of course, Dell is the number 3 of the plot... will address advertising and marketing of "services"... tank-debunkering included! :DI think hung does not need to work at pool solar heating. He is independently wealthy from all the fabulous treasures he found with his LRLs. And hung does not need free energy from the sun. He has all the free energy he needs from secret machines he and his team built inside the tank-bunker after using engineering advice from Myron Evans forum. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

I think hung does not need to work at pool solar heating. He is independently wealthy from all the fabulous treasures he found with his LRLs. And hung does not need free energy from the sun. He has all the free energy he needs from secret machines he and his team built inside the tank-bunker after using engineering advice from Myron Evans forum. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

:lol::lol:

[Qiaozhi]

I think hung does not need to work at pool solar heating. He is independently wealthy from all the fabulous treasures he found with his LRLs. And hung does not need free energy from the sun. He has all the free energy he needs from secret machines he and his team built inside the tank-bunker after using engineering advice from Myron Evans forum. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P
But how much money did the diploma cost for him to become Dr. Hung? :rolleyes:

[Max]

Cause he needs a diploma ??? :rolleyes:

From rumors... seems Hung new activity in Brazil (apart his role in carnival... as dancing queen of samba) is around genetic mutations for LRL....


I got this picture from an anonymous source... that wrote me Hung and his team are focusing on sense of smell of mutagenic kind of little pigs... for to use as LRL...

this one can sniff gold ions in the soil from 100meters away! :shocked:

So... apart being a dancing queen... now he's also the lord of the pigs! Like in the book... about...:lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[Alexismex]

Hello Forum,
interesting web site , in particular for Esteban and his experiments:

http://www.icehouse.net/john34/stubblefield.html

Alexis.

[J_Player]

Hi Alexmex,

This is an interesting website. It promises free energy exists in large amounts, and the technology is about to be developed to harness it. Because they don't want to see large disruptions in the world economies and balance of power, they take measures to prevent a sudden revolutionary change-over to the new free energy. They say they plan to help provide a smooth transition, into the new energy source to keep order in the world.

However, I am seeing several key warning signs....
1. These people have not developed and used the technology to harness the free power.
2. Nobody has seen any working mechanisms to provide free power using their methods.
3. They are selling a book to people to read about the amazing new free energy.

This makes me think they are mostly interested in selling their book. Maybe their free energy methods do not even work. But you cannot know if their methods work or not until you first buy their book. Then, after you buy their book, if you still cannot make any free energy after trying all methods they show, they can tell you that the technology has not been perfected yet... maybe in a few more years it will work.

Meanwhile, the owners of the book copyright will have free energy. Since they did not reveal how you can harness the energy, you have sent them money for free after receiving a worthless book. They can use the money you send for the book to buy fuel oil or petrol. Thus they have free energy!

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

Very good points J Player...
Pitty, but it is same old story, usuall...