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Esteban
05-05-2009, 05:32 PM
You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:
1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.
2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.
3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!
4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.
5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.
6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.
7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.
Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.
Regards
Esteban
detectoman
05-05-2009, 06:49 PM
thanks esteban i have one big tape of gold of whatchman of train, of coper only chapead of gold and in other near field, one little jar of ceramic whit only 30 coins of coper, of years 50's, since one mes same two, whit add of direct salt of kitchen and water, what you think what time await i need for i can try?
sweatofglory
05-05-2009, 10:51 PM
You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:
1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.
2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.
3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!
4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.
5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.
6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.
7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.
Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.
Regards
Esteban
Thank you so much my friend;););)
Morgan
05-05-2009, 11:19 PM
You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:
1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.
2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.
3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!
4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.
5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.
6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.
7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.
Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.
Regards
Esteban
Thanks Esteban
Other good test for LRL is to buy 50cm of silver(used for soldering) make a full contact loop(use your soldering iron). Buried the silver loop at 40 cm,or more ,but maybe near the surface create more fast the phenomenon.Humidity in the ground acelerate the phenomenon.
I have done this 3 years ago to try Mineoro. Until now only the model DC2008 detect the loop 50 cm distance,and my PD detect 3 m distance.
Abrazos
Esteban
05-06-2009, 12:08 AM
thanks esteban i have one big tape of gold of whatchman of train, of coper only chapead of gold and in other near field, one little jar of ceramic whit only 30 coins of coper, of years 50's, since one mes same two, whit add of direct salt of kitchen and water, what you think what time await i need for i can try?
Hola Detectoman
Como le digo, primero debe mojar las monedas con vinagre y remover bien, dejarlo por 2 dÃ*as. Luego, sacar el vinagre y ponerlo todo expuesto al sol por una semana o más hasta que todo se seque. Después haga un hoyo de 50 cm y ponga las monedas adentro con carbón vegetal y sal gruesa de cocina. Luego remoja todo con agua y lo entierra todo bien y marca el sitio con medio ladrillo. Es mejor que sean muchas monedas, como 150 a 200, solo de cobre y bronce, puede ser un poco de nÃ*quel. No debe haber hierro grande en la cercanÃ*a.
Creo que en 1 año o más ya puede haber "fenómeno".
Saludos
Esteban
Esteban
05-06-2009, 12:09 AM
Thanks Esteban
Other good test for LRL is to buy 50cm of silver(used for soldering) make a full contact loop(use your soldering iron). Buried the silver loop at 40 cm,or more ,but maybe near the surface create more fast the phenomenon.Humidity in the ground acelerate the phenomenon.
I have done this 3 years ago to try Mineoro. Until now only the model DC2008 detect the loop 50 cm distance,and my PD detect 3 m distance.
Abrazos
Morgan
Interesting method! :)
Regards
Esteban
Morgan
05-06-2009, 12:29 AM
Morgan
Interesting method! :)
Regards
Esteban
The loop method its very good and cheap,and the ring shape emits strong radiation signal,NO NEED TO BURIED 1 KG OF SILVER COINS ;)
Esteban
05-06-2009, 02:56 AM
The loop method its very good and cheap,and the ring shape emits strong radiation signal,NO NEED TO BURIED 1 KG OF SILVER COINS ;)
OK, but I want a test field of coins, because loop is "very strong". Also is useful "weak" fields. :)
Regards
Esteban
detectoman
05-06-2009, 10:38 AM
very thanks to yours esteban and morgan for your interst tips, i go to make other samples how, say
in other thing i think one lrl hibrid whit two detectores in one is most dificultous for put in equal function, in pd i see two tx, one in omega and other in coil 176 and too two rx one in coil little of omega and other in little coil of ferrite
i see in the project modified of esteban zahory one sistem most simple, not critic, have lateral antens how polar directional guide, cental antena, lrl pdk is very critic, not simple are here 18 power transistors and lot of components all in critic point of adjust, four circuits whit elements for put in equal one stabilization
we need lrls whit very simple steps and not critic, my pdk have sensible function, is in equilibre in house but is whit heater hot critic, may be should need change the box, because is in black plastic, in wood is my proxime experiment i put refrigeration
good whises dman.
sweatofglory
05-06-2009, 12:01 PM
The loop method its very good and cheap,and the ring shape emits strong radiation signal,NO NEED TO BURIED 1 KG OF SILVER COINS ;)
Thank you guys for the tips..........:):):)
sweatofglory
05-06-2009, 12:49 PM
You can also try this method on how to test your MFD:
1. Get three empty cough syrup bottles
2. Put silver and copper inside each bottle
3. Add water and close the cap tightly
4. Dig three holes in a triangle formation, 1 foot apart
5. Set silver or Copper frequency
:):):)
Esteban
05-06-2009, 06:57 PM
You can also try this method on how to test your MFD:
1. Get three empty cough syrup bottles
2. Put silver and copper inside each bottle
3. Add water and close the cap tightly
4. Dig three holes in a triangle formation, 1 foot apart
5. Set silver or Copper frequency
:):):)
Thanks a lot! :)
Morgan
05-06-2009, 11:59 PM
You can also try this method on how to test your MFD:
1. Get three empty cough syrup bottles
2. Put silver and copper inside each bottle
3. Add water and close the cap tightly
4. Dig three holes in a triangle formation, 1 foot apart
5. Set silver or Copper frequency
:):):)
MFD´s are also interesting LRL but the Pistoldetektor shot more direct to the target.
sweatofglory
05-07-2009, 03:48 AM
MFD´s are also interesting LRL but the Pistoldetektor shot more direct to the target.
it depends.......:):):)
aft_72005
05-07-2009, 07:31 AM
You can create a test area for pistols (or other LRL instrument), for example, in this way:
1. Achieve 150-200 coins (cheaps) bronze and copper. Also can be some nickels.
2. Put in a plastic recipient with few quantity of the liquid (mixed with water) you use for to corrode copper PCB (we use here percloric salt of iron). Not acid. Instead it you can use common vinegar.
3. Move it with the coins and leave for 2 days in open space. Coins must be wet with the liquid. Take care with your clothes!
4. Quit all the liquid but no dry totally. Leave in air and Sun for 1 week or more at dry totally. Now you have green coins corroded artificially.
5. Put all it in a hole at 50 cm depth mixed with vegetable charcoal and common salt in big grains. Charcoal is for to absorb excess of humidity and salt is for to mantain humidity in dry epochs. Make this area far of iron objects. First, check this area and clean of big iron materials.
6. Put over it small quantity of water. Close the hole very well and mark the site properly for to remember where are buried the targets. You can use half brick over targets for to mark it.
7. Don't use common metal detector for to test this area, because the energy of oscillator consumes the "field". Rays of storm in the nearby also consume it. But always the energy is recovered through the time.
Don't know in wich time appears the phenomenon, maybe one year or more, but this is a good way.
Regards
Esteban
Thank you Esteban .:):):)
Best regards.
aft_72005
05-07-2009, 07:36 AM
You can also try this method on how to test your MFD:
1. Get three empty cough syrup bottles
2. Put silver and copper inside each bottle
3. Add water and close the cap tightly
4. Dig three holes in a triangle formation, 1 foot apart
5. Set silver or Copper frequency
:):):)
Thank you, marvelous idea :):):)
Best regards.
No need to wait about a year to get results for ionic detection of test targets.
In 3 to eight weeks the ionic field will be formed sufficiently to allow detection.
Dig a hole, place your target (it even can be one or two gold goins or something very small), trow in three table spoons of salt and some cow turd. This allows accleration of ionic process more naturally than employing other artificial methods. This recipe was given to me by Damasio himself.
Since it's gold everybody wishes to detect and test, then it's GOLD you need to bury.
Then close the hole and add water over it. Wait for about 3 weeks (can even be less) and Mineoro type detectors will be able to react to it.
I have a small piece of Mineoro's gold sheet buried in my garden for testing purposes for a year now.
But back then after 2 weeks, I already had a signal from the PDC210.
Today, I get this target from an average of 6 meters with the Tyon, and depending on the sensitivity setting, even more than that.
aft_72005
05-07-2009, 01:26 PM
No need to wait about a year to get results for ionic detection of test targets.
In 3 to eight weeks the ionic field will be formed sufficiently to allow detection.
Dig a hole, place your target (it even can be one or two gold goins or something very small), trow in three table spoons of salt and some cow turd. This allows accleration of ionic process more naturally than employing other artificial methods. This recipe was given to me by Damasio himself.
Since it's gold everybody wishes to detect and test, then it's GOLD you need to bury.
Then close the hole and add water over it. Wait for about 3 weeks (can even be less) and Mineoro type detectors will be able to react to it.
I have a small piece of Mineoro's gold sheet buried in my garden for testing purposes for a year now.
But back then after 2 weeks, I already had a signal from the PDC210.
Today, I get this target from an average of 6 meters with the Tyon, and depending on the sensitivity setting, even more than that.
Hi hung :)
Thank you . what’s you said was notable .:):)
Best regards.
No need to wait about a year to get results for ionic detection of test targets.
In 3 to eight weeks the ionic field will be formed sufficiently to allow detection.
Dig a hole, place your target (it even can be one or two gold goins or something very small), trow in three table spoons of salt and some cow turd. This allows accleration of ionic process more naturally than employing other artificial methods. This recipe was given to me by Damasio himself.
Since it's gold everybody wishes to detect and test, then it's GOLD you need to bury.
Then close the hole and add water over it. Wait for about 3 weeks (can even be less) and Mineoro type detectors will be able to react to it.
I have a small piece of Mineoro's gold sheet buried in my garden for testing purposes for a year now.
But back then after 2 weeks, I already had a signal from the PDC210.
Today, I get this target from an average of 6 meters with the Tyon, and depending on the sensitivity setting, even more than that.
Hi Hung.
Is this method good for accelerate the "phenomenon" of copper???
Regards :)
Dig a hole, place your target (it even can be one or two gold goins or something very small), trow in three table spoons of salt and some cow turd. This allows accleration of ionic process more naturally than employing other artificial methods. This recipe was given to me by Damasio himself.
Hope that Damasio patented this inventing.
Hi Hung.
Is this method good for accelerate the "phenomenon" of copper???
Regards :)
Also Hung's opinion count ??? :lol:
Strange things there lrls! ;)
Also Hung's opinion count ??? :lol:
Strange things there lrls! ;)
Hello Max :):)
You Never Know :)
Hope that Damasio patented this inventing.
In brazil ?
Why ?
Anyone there will clone and place some carnival chicks soldering boards for cheap... :lol:
I like that brazilian LRLs... cause it's like with Cuban cigars... (rolled on legs of cuban girls... well at least in best scenario...):D
Astrodetect
11-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????
Esteban
11-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????
The phenomenon is consumed when you put directly a metal detector (in on) for several minutes over the target, no when oscillator is more far from the phenomenon.
Morgan
11-05-2009, 05:18 PM
Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????
Hello
If you see careful the LRL films,i said IT ABSORBE,sorry for my bad english,it means the PD is absorbing the Phenomenon,this hapens more slow or more fast,i think depends on many factors.
Regards
Morgan
11-05-2009, 05:26 PM
Esteban I want to ask you, if the oscillators consume the phenomenon how does Morgan's PD detect the phenomenon without destroying it?????
The smaller the coil,better to catch the Phenomenon,if we are using big coil it consume more fast the field around buried objects,and each time you get the signals more near.
This 8 cm diameter coil used in the original PD is perfect,i think if i use biger is not good...
detectoman
11-06-2009, 04:48 PM
hello brodhy morgan where are you, may be vey busy in your laboratories of experimentations? one embrace my electronic winer
Morgan
11-07-2009, 12:31 AM
hello brodhy morgan where are you, may be vey busy in your laboratories of experimentations? one embrace my electronic winer
Hello
Here all ok,but no treasures,yes many coins and objects.
Abrazos
J_Player
11-07-2009, 03:34 AM
The smaller the coil,better to catch the Phenomenon,if we are using big coil it consume more fast the field around buried objects,and each time you get the signals more near.
This 8 cm diameter coil used in the original PD is perfect,i think if i use biger is not good...Hi Morgan,
Maybe you can get better detection by using a smaller diameter search coil. Maybe a 1 cm diameter will work better. But you must make more turns to achieve the same inductance. Of course, you will also need to make a new null for the ferrite receiver, but this will be easy with the new 1 cm search coil. The real advantage to using a 1 cm search coil is you will no longer need to use a large box to hold a large search coil. You can easily fit all components inside a flashlight enclosure (torch in the UK). Only you can accomplish this because you used the small PCBs same as the origianal Alonso design. :) This will be a great asset to using your new 8x more powerful PD in Portugal where treasure hunting is frowned upon. People will think you are only carrying your light to see in dark corners. :)
Will this work?
Best wishes,
J_P
detectoman
11-07-2009, 05:15 PM
hello guys, little coil gave near distance detection but easy detect coins, too mases how treasures, nuggets etc, large coil hig range, only big objects, but not coins, little chesses, is you decision
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