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Geo
01-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Hi.
I attach my new LRL. I finished it before two days and it seems to be very sensitive and stable. I am waiting the weather to calm, so to go out for test.
Regards:):)

putrechigi
01-09-2009, 12:44 PM
Hi.
I attach my new LRL. I finished it before two days and it seems to be very sensitive and stable. I am waiting the weather to calm, so to go out for test.
Regards:):)


is intresting but how it work?like rengertell?

best reguards putre

Theseus
01-09-2009, 01:37 PM
Does the box swivel on the handle? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :lol:

If not, maybe it should and you could increase the sensitivity.

ALEX.356
01-09-2009, 01:49 PM
Dear GEO,
does the new LRL operate only on dowsers hands ???
Or is it pure electronic ?
Kindly consider the fact that some of us are not koufales [ ala ROSPY dictum ]
and therefore we ARE entitled to become POTENTIAL FUTURE CUSTOMERS of YOURS.
I am the first to apply. and obviously the first on the LIST.
I pay in GOLD [of course]

Kind regards,

ALEX.356

Geo
01-09-2009, 03:51 PM
Does the box swivel on the handle? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :lol:

If not, maybe it should and you could increase the sensitivity.

Hi....
I see smiles ??????? why clever man :lol:
For the handle????. I don't sell LRLs , so i don't need :nono: to construct a small no :nono: working circuit with a swivel box on the handle :):)

Look the photo inside the LRL !!!!! No bearings !!!!! only electronics:)

Geo
01-09-2009, 03:54 PM
Dear GEO,
does the new LRL operate only on dowsers hands ???
Or is it pure electronic ?
Kindly consider the fact that some of us are not koufales [ ala ROSPY dictum ]
and therefore we ARE entitled to become POTENTIAL FUTURE CUSTOMERS of YOURS.
I am the first to apply. and obviously the first on the LIST.
I pay in GOLD [of course]

Kind regards,

ALEX.356

Hi Alex.
Sorry, i told you that i don't sell detectors and i mean it!!!!!!
And something else.......
I have money.... no problem. (δοξα τον Θεο!!!!!)
Regards :):)

putrechigi
01-09-2009, 05:01 PM
hi geo how it work? is ione detector? metal detector or.......

ALEX.356
01-09-2009, 05:51 PM
:frown: I am getting sad with GEO's decision NOT to assist fellow THs.

And certainly the criterion of selling or not selling is not the need for the money by the constructor.

And for this reason I proposed to pay in Gold :):):) AND NOT IN FIAT DEVALUED MONEY. . . :):):) :D

Money can buy many things but seldom FRIENDSHIP.

Gold too....:D

ALEX.356

Geo
01-09-2009, 07:18 PM
:frown: I am getting sad with GEO's decision NOT to assist fellow THs.

And certainly the criterion of selling or not selling is not the need for the money by the constructor.

And for this reason I proposed to pay in Gold :):):) AND NOT IN FIAT DEVALUED MONEY. . . :):):) :D

Money can buy many things but seldom FRIENDSHIP. (I agree... Geo)

Gold too....:D

ALEX.356


Regards:)

rospy
01-09-2009, 10:33 PM
Hi....
I see smiles ??????? why clever man :lol:
For the handle????. I don't sell LRLs , so i don't need :nono: to construct a small no :nono: working circuit with a swivel box on the handle :):)

Look the photo inside the LRL !!!!! No bearings !!!!! only electronics:)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Τι ειναι αυτο ρε Λαμογιοοοοοοοοοοοο ????????

Geo
01-09-2009, 11:19 PM
Σπυρο, οτι γραφει. Και μαλλον θα παει καλα :):):)

Eugene52
01-10-2009, 03:48 AM
Geo , The hundreds of turns of copper enamel wire is to give more gain for the small telescoping antenna ?? , and is it somewhere in the KHZ range , Ground waves maybe ?? Does it Transmit a signal , or does it just recieve ? Please let us know more !! And have a Great Birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!...............Regards..........Eugene 52

aft_72005
01-10-2009, 06:49 AM
Hi.
I attach my new LRL. I finished it before two days and it seems to be very sensitive and stable. I am waiting the weather to calm, so to go out for test.
Regards:):)

Hi Geo
It is interesting.
Best regards.

aft_72005
01-10-2009, 06:57 AM
Geo , The hundreds of turns of copper enamel wire is to give more gain for the small telescoping antenna ?? , and is it somewhere in the KHZ range , Ground waves maybe ?? Does it Transmit a signal , or does it just recieve ? Please let us know more !! And have a Great Birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!...............Regards..........Eugene 52



Hi Eugene
How are you? :):)In my opinion, Seem as big coil with big XL series with antenna,
For increase antenna XL. It is tuning at low frequency and maybe only VLF
Receiver.
Best regards

aft_72005
01-10-2009, 07:01 AM
Geo , The hundreds of turns of copper enamel wire is to give more gain for the small telescoping antenna ?? , and is it somewhere in the KHZ range , Ground waves maybe ?? Does it Transmit a signal , or does it just recieve ? Please let us know more !! And have a Great Birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!...............Regards..........Eugene 52

Hi Geo
If it is not secret, please more dissection it.
Best regards.

Clondike Clad
01-10-2009, 08:04 AM
Anyone who knows metal detector circuits.
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT DO YOU SEE.

zenit52
01-10-2009, 08:42 AM
Hi Dear Geo,
This LRL seems very interesting,
Do you test it ?!!! How it works ?
Please put schematic and for information about it...
With best regards...zenit52 :)

Esteban
01-10-2009, 12:54 PM
Anyone who knows metal detector circuits.
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT DO YOU SEE.
This is not problem. Receiver part of MD can be used as absorptive electronic LRL.

Esteban
01-10-2009, 01:13 PM
Geo

Also you can try spiral. This is very good. But make this is some difficult (consume more time).

Esteban
01-10-2009, 01:19 PM
You can see before painting (barnished) trough magnifier.

Esteban
01-10-2009, 01:31 PM
My technic. Use small circular form in center, make a hole between plastic form and wood (for to pass the wire) and start winding and paste time to time and in a many parts during windings. Some difficult... Care with your fingers with this type of glue...

Also I think this can very good for PI detectors. In this sample I use wire 0.70, 71 turns in a form 12.5 cm. The coil is 11.5 cm. This results in real 0.7 ohms (tester shows 0.9, but 0.2 ohms is resistence of cable). Inductance is 210 uH.

Geo
01-10-2009, 05:17 PM
Hahaha....
Sorry but now i have not time!!!! maybe tommorow
Regards:)

humhum
01-10-2009, 06:16 PM
Hi Esteban, can I search (try) with my absorbtion ferrite sensor device in winter time?
Favourable whether it will work ?

Esteban
01-10-2009, 08:25 PM
Hi Esteban, can I search (try) with my absorbtion ferrite sensor device in winter time?
Favourable whether it will work ?

Don't know, we don't have ice or snow climate here...

humhum
01-10-2009, 10:13 PM
Don't know, we don't have ice or snow climate here...

Ok , thank you Esteban.

Geo
01-11-2009, 07:05 AM
Geo , The hundreds of turns of copper enamel wire is to give more gain for the small telescoping antenna ?? , and is it somewhere in the KHZ range , Ground waves maybe ?? Does it Transmit a signal , or does it just recieve ? Please let us know more !! And have a Great Birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!...............Regards..........Eugene 52

Hi Eugene.
Reasons are two. First as you say....... and second bacause this coil has very good directionality.
It can work with a small coil as chock but not so good sensitivity.
Also if i will use a normal smaller coil with a ferrite as radio coils then i have problems with the earth magnetic field (south-north).
It use transmit and receive.
Thanks for your wishes
Regards :)

Geo
01-11-2009, 07:08 AM
Hi Eugene
How are you? :):)In my opinion, Seem as big coil with big XL series with antenna,
For increase antenna XL. It is tuning at low frequency and maybe only VLF
Receiver.
Best regards


Hi Aft.
It transmit at 300Khz via a crystal oscillator.
Receive frequency is adjustable !!!!!!
The shematic is secret for the moment.... sorry:frown:
Regards:):)

Geo
01-11-2009, 07:11 AM
Hi Dear Geo,
This LRL seems very interesting,
Do you test it ?!!! How it works ?
Please put schematic and for information about it...
With best regards...zenit52 :)

Hi . I make some small tests at my garden. The weather is not good , many rain so i can't go to the farm for a big, good test.
Sorry, no schematic
Regards:)

Geo
01-11-2009, 07:13 AM
Geo

Also you can try spiral. This is very good. But make this is some difficult (consume more time).

Hi Esteban.
Thanks for the photo.
Do you use this coil inside the head of your red pistol????
Maybe my LRL has the same prinsiple with your pistol
Regards:)

Esteban
01-11-2009, 01:41 PM
Hi Esteban.
Thanks for the photo.
Do you use this coil inside the head of your red pistol????
Maybe my LRL has the same prinsiple with your pistol
Regards:)

No, the red pistol is inside a BFO.

This spiral I use in absorptive magnetic type. I found with it silver items, old riffle 7.62 cartridge only gove one beep, but for silver is good. Also buttons platted gold, etc. :) I think is the king of coil for this use (receiver-absorptive). But I think your conic version is good for transmitter. Also I use the conic type (I post the pics months ago).


Regards

Esteban

Esteban
01-11-2009, 01:58 PM
Here the conic coil I post in july 2008
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=75225#post75225

Geo
01-11-2009, 07:34 PM
No, the red pistol is inside a BFO.

This spiral I use in absorptive magnetic type. I found with it silver items, old riffle 7.62 cartridge only gove one beep, but for silver is good. Also buttons platted gold, etc. :) I think is the king of coil for this use (receiver-absorptive). But I think your conic version is good for transmitter. Also I use the conic type (I post the pics months ago).


Regards

Esteban

For transmiter No, a big Tx coil at the place of antenna yes, but why conic????
I use it for the receiver.
I told that it is about your Red pistol !!!!!!!


Regards :):):)

ivconic
01-11-2009, 10:13 PM
For transmiter No, a big Tx coil at the place of antenna yes, but why conic????
I use it for the receiver.
I told that it is about your Red pistol !!!!!!!


Regards :):):)


Yes; why conic? Why not ivconic? :razz::lol::D

Esteban
01-11-2009, 10:17 PM
Yes; why conic? Why not ivconic? :razz::lol::D
Why not? You are able for to design one of it... :)

Esteban
01-11-2009, 10:23 PM
For transmiter No, a big Tx coil at the place of antenna yes, but why conic????
I use it for the receiver.
I told that it is about your Red pistol !!!!!!!


Regards :):):)

Was used for very high distance, AM type. Tr. was conic...

Regards:):):)

Esteban

Morgan
01-11-2009, 10:29 PM
Hi Aft.
It transmit at 300Khz via a crystal oscillator.
Receive frequency is adjustable !!!!!!
The shematic is secret for the moment.... sorry:frown:
Regards:):)
Hi Geo

This device you made with conic coil,its not new in the market...
One friend from Spain who visit Alonso in Paraguay told me about similar LRL device,but using some LED´s,its exacly the same as yours in apearence,they call Tesla LRL,it detects only GOLD AND SILVER.
My friend from Spain become interested in device but Alonso not sell this one...Maybe Esteban also know about this device...

Regards

Geo
01-12-2009, 06:12 AM
Yes; why conic? Why not ivconic? :razz::lol::D

Hi Ivica.
Conic... or Ivconic ?????
Its the same.
How are you and your family ???/?
Regards:):):)

Geo
01-12-2009, 06:22 AM
Hi Geo

This device you made with conic coil,its not new in the market...
One friend from Spain who visit Alonso in Paraguay told me about similar LRL device,but using some LED´s,its exacly the same as yours in apearence,they call Tesla LRL,it detects only GOLD AND SILVER.
My friend from Spain become interested in device but Alonso not sell this one...Maybe Esteban also know about this device...

Regards

Hi Morgan.

The device is new!!!!! it is my design. The conic coil or Tesla coil, of course it is not new. It is very old. My LRL has better performance at non ferrous objects but also detects the rust ferrous objects. The advantage is that it is very stable even at full sensitivity.

Regards :)

Esteban
01-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Hi Geo

This device you made with conic coil,its not new in the market...
One friend from Spain who visit Alonso in Paraguay told me about similar LRL device,but using some LED´s,its exacly the same as yours in apearence,they call Tesla LRL,it detects only GOLD AND SILVER.
My friend from Spain become interested in device but Alonso not sell this one...Maybe Esteban also know about this device...

Regards

I know about it. The Tesla conic by Alonso is 32 cm long. Works at 400-500 V. :)

Regards

Esteban

Esteban
01-12-2009, 12:45 PM
Hi Morgan.

The device is new!!!!! it is my design. The conic coil or Tesla coil, of course it is not new. It is very old. My LRL has better performance at non ferrous objects but also detects the rust ferrous objects. The advantage is that it is very stable even at full sensitivity.

Regards :)

This is very important: stability at full sensibility. :)

Regards

Clondike Clad
01-12-2009, 01:08 PM
Do anyone knows how a Tesla coil WORKS.i LIKE TO SEE THIS THINGGO AFTER CARL'S $25,000:|

Theseus
01-12-2009, 01:42 PM
Yes, I know how a tesla coil works. For what it was developed to do, it works very well. Unfortunately for THers, there is no facet or concept of a tesla coil that will aid in the discovery of long range buried targets (ie. gold or buried treasure).

Carl can rest easy that his money is quite safe; at least in regards to any LRL that resembles a tesla coil. :)

Esteban
01-12-2009, 06:34 PM
Yes, I know how a tesla coil works. For what it was developed to do, it works very well. Unfortunately for THers, there is no facet or concept of a tesla coil that will aid in the discovery of long range buried targets (ie. gold or buried treasure).

Carl can rest easy that his money is quite safe; at least in regards to any LRL that resembles a tesla coil. :)

Not big money for the travel of 2 persons thousands miles, hotel, expenses, etc.:shocked:

Theseus
01-12-2009, 09:47 PM
Not big money for the travel of 2 persons thousands miles, hotel, expenses, etc.:shocked:

Perhaps not "big money", but certainly if someone actually had a "working" LRL (tesla based or not), it would be worth their time, money and effort to come to the US, demonstrate their LRL to James Randi, grab his $1M, and then pick up Carl's money on their way back home.

But, alas... no one has done that...... ;)

Geo
01-12-2009, 10:31 PM
Not big money for the travel of 2 persons thousands miles, hotel, expenses, etc.:shocked:



You must pay at least the half money!!!!:(:(

Geo
01-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Perhaps not "big money", but certainly if someone actually had a "working" LRL (tesla based or not), it would be worth their time, money and effort to come to the US, demonstrate their LRL to James Randi, grab his $1M, and then pick up Carl's money on their way back home.

But, alas... no one has done that...... ;)

Yes, but if you will locate 9 times of ten then you lose.....:lol::lol::lol:
So, is Randi stupid to give you the $1M???
We say that LRL or rods are not so precision as a VLF but you don't hear....
You hear only the 100/100. If i will go with a LRL 3 times (for example) for a treasure and finally i find the treasure.... what do you say???? that i have problem :lol::lol: because i can't find the treasure with the first time, so i can't take the money from Carl :lol::lol::lol:
Please be serious....

Regards:):)

Esteban
01-12-2009, 11:37 PM
Perhaps not "big money", but certainly if someone actually had a "working" LRL (tesla based or not), it would be worth their time, money and effort to come to the US, demonstrate their LRL to James Randi, grab his $1M, and then pick up Carl's money on their way back home.

But, alas... no one has done that...... ;)

I assume the $ 1 M is for "mechanic LRL", no for completely electronic... Randi's prize is for paranormal applications... as I'm noticed.

Esteban
01-13-2009, 12:27 AM
Randi is not sure at all... New significative rule:

12. This offer is not open to any and all persons. Before being considered as an applicant, the person applying must satisfy two conditions: First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities. Second, he/she must produce at least one signed document from an academic who has witnessed the powers or abilities of the person, and will validate that these powers or abilities have been verified. :lol:

Theseus
01-13-2009, 01:25 AM
I assume the $ 1 M is for "mechanic LRL", no for completely electronic... Randi's prize is for paranormal applications... as I'm noticed.

You could be right. But before you discount the idea of trying for the $1M with your gadget, why don't you outline what it is that you intend to do with it, including the claimed accuracy, and then let the Randi organization determine if your gadget falls within the scope of their test parameters; or not.

Theseus
01-13-2009, 01:35 AM
Yes, but if you will locate 9 times of ten then you lose.....


Really??? Have you already submitted a proposal for a test protocol and is that what they told you?

I was under the impression your results would merely need to be significantly better than what could be obtained by chance guessing.

Now, admittedly the words "significantly better" might mean your results would have to be many statistical points better than pure chance; but if your claimed results (with your gadget) are not within that realm, then what good is it? :)

Qiaozhi
01-13-2009, 10:56 AM
Randi is not sure at all... New significative rule:

12. This offer is not open to any and all persons. Before being considered as an applicant, the person applying must satisfy two conditions: First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities. Second, he/she must produce at least one signed document from an academic who has witnessed the powers or abilities of the person, and will validate that these powers or abilities have been verified. :lol:
I think this seems quite reasonable.

If you were offering $1M to anyone who could demonstrate genuine psychic powers, can you imagine how many nutters would come banging on your door? Your life would become a nightmare. Asking for evidence of some "media presence" seems a good method for upfront screening.

Esteban
01-13-2009, 12:26 PM
I think this seems quite reasonable.

If you were offering $1M to anyone who could demonstrate genuine psychic powers, can you imagine how many nutters would come banging on your door? Your life would become a nightmare. Asking for evidence of some "media presence" seems a good method for upfront screening.

Yes... is true. The point 12 is semi-new exigence... I think.

sweatofglory
01-14-2009, 12:42 PM
Where is the a man from Republic of Macedonia who accepted Carl's $25k challenge? I hope it would be materialized this year. I am quiet sure there are atleast 5 brilliant people in this forum who devoted so much time in developing remote sensing equipments but refuse to accept the challenge. Why???:shocked: Simply because they don't like the challenge!:nono:

Theseus
01-14-2009, 02:00 PM
Where is the a man from Republic of Macedonia who accepted Carl's $25k challenge? I hope it would be materialized this year. I am quiet sure there are atleast 5 brilliant people in this forum who devoted so much time in developing remote sensing equipments but refuse to accept the challenge. Why???:shocked: Simply because they don't like the challenge!:nono:

Why indeed.

1.) They would have to agree in writing as to what exactly they (and their LRL) were going to demonstrate.

2.) Their demonstrated results would have to be significantly better than what could be obtained by Chance Guessing, and repeatable.

And so..... here we are into another year (2009), and still no one has come up with a workable LRL that can beat Chance Guessing.

Oh well, there's always 2010. :lol:

Morgan
01-14-2009, 02:06 PM
Where is the a man from Republic of Macedonia who accepted Carl's $25k challenge? I hope it would be materialized this year. I am quiet sure there are atleast 5 brilliant people in this forum who devoted so much time in developing remote sensing equipments but refuse to accept the challenge. Why???:shocked: Simply because they don't like the challenge!:nono:
Simply becouse Carls money is very little compared with their ambitions.
Probably if oncle Carls upgrade the price for 1 M someone travel to U.S.A...

Morgan
01-14-2009, 02:12 PM
Where is the a man from Republic of Macedonia who accepted Carl's $25k challenge? I hope it would be materialized this year. I am quiet sure there are atleast 5 brilliant people in this forum who devoted so much time in developing remote sensing equipments but refuse to accept the challenge. Why???:shocked: Simply because they don't like the challenge!:nono:
No one pays 25 K just to see LRL working.
There is also the dark side of this challenge,consist in changing the LRL working device for the 25 K premium after the sucessful demonstration ;)

WesP
01-14-2009, 05:14 PM
I'm sure that there will be secret agents in black helicopters that would sweep in as soon as the LRL was proven to work and steal the machine and kill any and all witnesses. It happens all the time here in the USA!!!!!!!!! :angry:

If LRL or any of the other voodoo metal(gold-treasure) locators really worked Carl would have been relieved of his 25K long ago. :shocked:

Where's the Beef??????:p

Esteban
01-14-2009, 08:02 PM
I have many photos with trips in USA in 1981 and 1983. There are 1,000 witnesses in this period, include Garrett and sons and the etc. of the factory.

In limit of factory was found a clock of sheriff Pat Garrett... (what coincidence!) with pistol detector at eyes of the Garretts... The common detector don't can detect it regarding the depth.

The clock has a legend like this: "The town of... to Pat Garrett... 1910".

Of course, ALL target planted in Garrett factory for tests (noble metals) was fixed EXACTLY with the pistol.

You can negate, but can't investigate? Eh? Ease way?:nono:


Save your money asking them... :razz:

Geo
01-15-2009, 05:37 AM
Randi is not sure at all... New significative rule:

12. This offer is not open to any and all persons. Before being considered as an applicant, the person applying must satisfy two conditions: First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities. Second, he/she must produce at least one signed document from an academic who has witnessed the powers or abilities of the person, and will validate that these powers or abilities have been verified. :lol:


:lol::lol::lol:
Now...ok. Randi don't like us :lol::lol:

Geo
01-15-2009, 05:43 AM
Really??? Have you already submitted a proposal for a test protocol and is that what they told you?

I was under the impression your results would merely need to be significantly better than what could be obtained by chance guessing.

Now, admittedly the words "significantly better" might mean your results would have to be many statistical points better than pure chance; but if your claimed results (with your gadget) are not within that realm, then what good is it? :)

I can't understand what you mean " results would merely need to be significantly better than what could be obtained by chance guessing"..

I know simple words....... If i will find 8... or 9 .. or 10 coins from the 10 coins that are buried i take the money. All other words are just for speaking....:lol:

sweatofglory
01-15-2009, 05:48 AM
:lol::lol::lol:
Now...ok. Randi don't like us :lol::lol:

so geo not all are qualified for the $1M only $25k:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:: lol::lol::lol::lol:

hung
01-15-2009, 10:03 AM
I have many photos with trips in USA in 1981 and 1983. There are 1,000 witnesses in this period, include Garrett and sons and the etc. of the factory.

In limit of factory was found a clock of sheriff Pat Garrett... (what coincidence!) with pistol detector at eyes of the Garretts... The common detector don't can detect it regarding the depth.

The clock has a legend like this: "The town of... to Pat Garrett... 1910".

Of course, ALL target planted in Garrett factory for tests (noble metals) was fixed EXACTLY with the pistol.

You can negate, but can't investigate? Eh? Ease way?:nono:


Save your money asking them... :razz:

Exactly Esteban.
I also already told this case here.
It was Alonso who detected the watch with a DCH prototype in the early 80's in the Garret factory backyard.
When the watch was recovered, Garret grabbed it and started to run around the factory yelling like a child who had with a piece of candy bar in his hand.

So Alonso already did it. Several witnesses.
If Carl or anybody whishes so, he can go over Garret and confirm all the story. It's that easy. And if he is honest enough about his utopic challenge:lol:, he can give the 25k to Alonso right now.

Esteban
01-15-2009, 12:48 PM
Exactly Esteban.
I also already told this case here.
It was Alonso who detected the watch with a DCH prototype in the early 80's in the Garret factory backyard.
When the watch was recovered, Garret grabbed it and started to run around the factory yelling like a child who had with a piece of candy bar in his hand.

So Alonso already did it. Several witnesses.
If Carl or anybody whishes so, he can go over Garret and confirm all the story. It's that easy. And if he is honest enough about his utopic challenge:lol:, he can give the 25k to Alonso right now.

Is easy,

Garrett (son) can confirm here. Sure in Garrett factory they "spy" these MD topic pages. So...

Fred
01-15-2009, 01:12 PM
Is easy,

Garrett (son) can confirm here. Sure in Garrett factory they "spy" these MD topic pages. So...

So why Garett didn´t copy this MD and sell it ?

hung
01-15-2009, 06:21 PM
So why Garett didn´t copy this MD and sell it ?
Because Alonso is from Mineoro and Mineoro launched this device in 1985.

I don't believe Garret was gangster enough to point a gun into Alonso's head demanding cloning, do you?:lol:
Anyway one my team members still owns one of these original pearls from 85.
We are modifying it right now.

PS.Ah... Almost forgot to remind that a few weeks after the Garret factory episode, Alonso was invited by Mel Fisher to climb aboard his ship. A few days later Alonso's device detected the Atocha's motherload.
Since Mel is deceased, anyone can check with the Fisher family about this one.
But trully, I don't expect them to release such info as since that time they tried to hide this info as they could in order to keep Fisher's 'glory'.
This in fact was one of the reasons that caused the british member of Alonso's team to die from disgusting.
But this is another story.

Esteban
01-15-2009, 08:08 PM
Because Alonso is from Mineoro and Mineoro launched this device in 1985.

I don't believe Garret was gangster enough to point a gun into Alonso's head demanding cloning, do you?:lol:
Anyway one my team members still owns one of these original pearls from 85.
We are modifying it right now.

PS.Ah... Almost forgot to remind that a few weeks after the Garret factory episode, Alonso was invited by Mel Fisher to climb aboard his ship. A few days later Alonso's device detected the Atocha's motherload.
Since Mel is deceased, anyone can check with the Fisher family about this one.
But trully, I don't expect them to release such info as since that time they tried to hide this info as they could in order to keep Fisher's 'glory'.
This in fact was one of the reasons that caused the british member of Alonso's team to die from disgusting.
But this is another story.

In one trip also was Jacques-Yves Cousteau...

Fred
01-15-2009, 08:13 PM
Because Alonso is from Mineoro and Mineoro launched this device in 1985.
Almost 25 years later i can´t say this is a commercial success for such an amazing device...:shocked:

hung
01-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Almost 25 years later i can´t say this is a commercial success for such an amazing device...:shocked:

Actually, it was great for that era.
Since 85, Earth has changed its axis, magnetic phenomena is not the same anymore , earth's resonant frequency changed, etc.
The DCH oscillator and frequencies are not precise for the present conditions anymore. Phenomena, electronics, aproach, all changed and evolved.
That's why I said we are modifying it.

maimoune
01-17-2009, 08:47 PM
Hi Geo ...
Good luck ... New LRL :):):):)

Fred
01-18-2009, 02:48 PM
Actually, it was great for that era.
Since 85, Earth has changed its axis, magnetic phenomena is not the same anymore , earth's resonant frequency changed, etc.
The DCH oscillator and frequencies are not precise for the present conditions anymore. Phenomena, electronics, aproach, all changed and evolved.
That's why I said we are modifying it.
Well , all those changes are very well documented, so the needed changes should be really easy and quick to perform...

maimoune
01-22-2009, 06:31 PM
Hello...
How about your new LRL Geo ...
best regards

maimoune
01-22-2009, 09:08 PM
hello ...
I hope your new LRL work fine .

Regards

ALEX.356
01-23-2009, 11:33 AM
Auto to Maimouni einai POLU Maimouni. . . .

Traslation:

This Maimouni is VERY Maimouni

Kind regards,
ALEX.356

Morgan
01-24-2009, 09:58 AM
I know about it. The Tesla conic by Alonso is 32 cm long. Works at 400-500 V. :)

Regards

Esteban
Hi Esteban

Maybe you can put in forum one picture of this LRL device TESLA CONIC made by Alonso...

Regards

detectoman
01-24-2009, 10:45 AM
nostradamus electronic
the era of the eletronic lrl's start
whit difusion via from internet of esteban morgan and geo, gulp, they to the head in geotech
them iniciate the ocaso of the rudimentarys md's how minelab white garret tesoro pulse star bounty hunty radio shack etc etc
the desafio challenge of carl is proxime to finished
then the diagrams and modifications of md's dissapared for siempre of page
whtb the world finish in the 2012
the conic coper lrl of geo quedara quiet in the ground
the gold of prospectors buried
apologies for my poor english

detectoman
01-24-2009, 11:01 AM
geo cool! the same crazy ideas how me, extrange conics coils, ?/ me parabolic too, you isnt early man how the antique tunthing builders siglo xx md's, constructors, you is crazyman visionary how me
may be you can build accidental one trap for rays or centelles
good lucky

detectoman
01-24-2009, 11:21 AM
may be this detect in my proxime try:|

Morgan
01-25-2009, 04:05 PM
may be this detect in my proxime try:|

Que passa hombre ,que no tienes suerte con tus LRL gizmos :|

hay que passar las fronteras,se no hay oro en tu tierra !!!

Aqui en Russia hace muncho frio,pero,aqui estoy yo!!! Hay encontrado munchas cosas con PD ,y continuar buscando los tesoros de Napolion sacados de Moscow,y todo perdido y enterrado por causa de frio y niebla.

Paka,Paka
Abrazos:)

Morgan
01-25-2009, 04:16 PM
may be this detect in my proxime try:|

Aqui hay cantidades enormes de oro en las catedrales y monasterios,cosas muy interessantes,tengo unas fotos.
Un pais riquissimo pero muncha confusion en Moscow center:shocked: todo muy caro,un coffe en Kremlin Red Square precio 5 Euros !!!

Abrazos

Morgan
01-25-2009, 04:21 PM
may be this detect in my proxime try:|

Mira que tu BFO IONIC tambien me parece un nicho de colebras !!!

ðë*ä óïû* mopyr :lol:

detectoman
01-26-2009, 10:17 AM
calmado el venado' esa bfio esta parada' y en receso, debido a que estoy terco con la complicada pd, la bfio ya esta ya guardadita y lista para probarse en mayo que se oxide la muestra enterrada y ya puede detectar un peine energizado con el pelo, a tres o mas metros de distancia si ya se que es la estatica y que dificilmente funcionara, pero que tal si, si? he
ahora pues tengo otros planes para ella

pero bueno la verdad soy muy terco ya la bfio esta ya estable, sumbando y en la cochera y ya saliendo del hoyo de mi atore con la pd, le busco mas expandir hot' a la bfi
no puedo comenzar otra cosa, si no termino una cosa muy detenida
si pues claro tambien tengo en mi taller un tgsl de un solo ic, jeje ya medio funcionando, y otros proyectos atrasados como un ovni made in rancho

pero esa caja bfi solo tiene las conexiones necesarias no como el pd de alonso parece lata de lombrices para pescar
y tu pd nunca has querido ensenar su interior, ya me imagino como estara de peor
y pa' colmo detecta hasta el roce del grass
aburrrrrrrrrrrrr

detectoman
01-26-2009, 10:21 AM
ahhhhhhhh y en mi bfi no son muchas las culebras lo que pasa es que se ven las sombras de los cables por la luz
se ven de a doble
cuidate

aft_72005
01-26-2009, 01:16 PM
may be this detect in my proxime try:|


Hi detectoman
Please more explain about your detector .
Best regards.

Eugene52
01-26-2009, 09:25 PM
Hi Aft.
It transmit at 300Khz via a crystal oscillator.
Receive frequency is adjustable !!!!!!
The shematic is secret for the moment.... sorry:frown:
Regards:):)

I have a feeling that your Device works !!!!!! 300 khz is in the long-wave band , also called ground wave . I do not see any programmable pic-chips or atmels on the circuitboard , correct ? Geo , maybe soon , you can post field-test results .....................Regards..............Eugene

Morgan
01-27-2009, 08:55 AM
Hi detectoman
Please more explain about your detector .
Best regards.
All info and schematic is in this forum.
Thread Ionic Electrostatic Energy Fields

detectoman
01-27-2009, 10:09 AM
aft 72005:
these lrl of me show is not tried, this is in await, but detect the on off of tv to 4 mts, detect too static best, have sound of bfo, and indicator of sensitivy needle, this is same of link of tread say morgan, wthv whit any little own modifications
is not tried, i try these soon
i am bussy in my own work

aft_72005
01-27-2009, 11:06 AM
Hi Morgan and detectoman :)
Thank you. I did study that thread at the past .
Again studying exactly .

Morgan
01-28-2009, 12:48 PM
Hi Morgan and detectoman :)
Thank you. I did study that thread at the past .
Again studying exactly .

You need some changes in RX antenna for better performance,but as i told the PD is better for little objects,than the BFO IONIC

Morgan
01-28-2009, 12:52 PM
You need some changes in RX antenna for better performance,but as i told the PD is better for little objects,than the BFO IONIC
The ionic field locator,mixed with this BFO locator,seams to enhance detection distance only in long time ago buried objects (if big size). But with PD,i remember have found one time gold nugget (very small)

maimoune
01-30-2009, 09:20 AM
Hi Morgan...
Please can you put the shematic IONIC BFO and the PD .
thank you .

aft_72005
01-30-2009, 09:38 AM
Hi Morgan...
Please can you put the shematic IONIC BFO and the PD .
thank you .


Hi maimoune
Don’t tiring thyself .:lol::lol:

Morgan
01-30-2009, 10:58 AM
Hi Morgan...
Please can you put the shematic IONIC BFO and the PD .
thank you .
Hi Maimoune

Honest to you my Pistoldetektor is more eficient LRL than your Mineoro ÂÑ2008 but only for small targets. Anyway some of my friends said to me about treasures found with Mineoro models DC2006 and DC2008 at distances more than 100 meters.
I found treasure (300 silver coins) with PD at 15m distance,if i was using Mineoro in stead of PD maybe i found this coins at 100 m or more...

I think you need to know better how to work with Mineoro device and go to places where treasure realy exist,not make tests only around your house ;)

Regards

hung
01-30-2009, 03:34 PM
I think you need to know better how to work with Mineoro device and go to places where treasure realy exist,not make tests only around your house ;)

Regards

Hummm... Sounds like the exact same thing I used to tell you a year and a half ago, remember my friend?:lol::lol:

maimoune
01-30-2009, 07:33 PM
I'm sure that with your Pd I find a real treasure:):):)

Geo
04-03-2009, 08:17 AM
Hi:).
Long time from my last post, but the weather was not good, so it was not possible to me to make a "true" test.
These days i made twice test the "New LRL". Results was not good :(
First time i took some "lines" with it, at distance 500m at least. When i went near the point where the LRL saw that there is buried object, i did not received any signal:(. Next day i went to a place where there are a lot of archaiologic buried objects, but again without results. A big problem is when i turn the head (Coil) to the earth (45o) or to sky, i receive a strong signal, so it is not possible to take a real signal or to pin point a object.
Last weekend i went with a team of 50+ people to a mountain for treasure hunting (all was member of my site at Greece). Except the other detectors we had a Iconos IC805, my modified Iconos IC807,my New LRL and some simple generators. It was a place where thr New IC805 took a strong continued signal, my IC807 took some beeps not continued and the new LRL did not gave any signal.
So i Believe that at this LRL i made a Bad Drawing:frown::frown::angry:.
Never mind, maybe another time:):)


My regards :):):)

Morgan
04-03-2009, 11:18 AM
Hi:).
Long time from my last post, but the weather was not good, so it was not possible to me to make a "true" test.
These days i made twice test the "New LRL". Results was not good :(
First time i took some "lines" with it, at distance 500m at least. When i went near the point where the LRL saw that there is buried object, i did not received any signal:(. Next day i went to a place where there are a lot of archaiologic buried objects, but again without results. A big problem is when i turn the head (Coil) to the earth (45o) or to sky, i receive a strong signal, so it is not possible to take a real signal or to pin point a object.
Last weekend i went with a team of 50+ people to a mountain for treasure hunting (all was member of my site at Greece). Except the other detectors we had a Iconos IC805, my modified Iconos IC807,my New LRL and some simple generators. It was a place where thr New IC805 took a strong continued signal, my IC807 took some beeps not continued and the new LRL did not gave any signal.
So i Believe that at this LRL i made a Bad Drawing:frown::frown::angry:.
Never mind, maybe another time:):)


My regards :):):)
Hi Geo

Team of 50 people,searching for treasure... And realy no problems with autorities ??? I imagine Greece with hard laws against TH :|

Geo
04-03-2009, 09:09 PM
Hi Morgan:)
Take a look:lol:
http://www.antartes.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1059&page=11

Of course not all
Regards...:)

rospy
04-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Hi Morgan:)
Take a look:lol:
http://www.antartes.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1059&page=11

Of course not all
Regards...:)



Ρε ΛΑΜΟΓΙΟ..............Κανεις διαφημηση με της δικες μου φωτο ??????

Εεεεεεεε ???? :razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz:

rospy
04-03-2009, 09:28 PM
Ρε ΛΑΜΟΓΙΟ..............Κανεις διαφημηση με της δικες μου φωτο ??????

Εεεεεεεε ???? :razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz:



Take a look.....

http://f.imagehost.org/t/0456/65t72txntthcobrxl1v7.jpg (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0456/65t72txntthcobrxl1v7)

Esteban
04-04-2009, 02:11 AM
Take a look.....

http://f.imagehost.org/t/0456/65t72txntthcobrxl1v7.jpg (http://f.imagehost.org/view/0456/65t72txntthcobrxl1v7)

Best of all is infrared laser. Very incisive!

aft_72005
04-04-2009, 04:30 AM
Hi Morgan:)
Take a look:lol:
http://www.antartes.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1059&page=11

Of course not all
Regards...:)

Hi Geo
I saw your website, it is interesting and attractive . http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/88.gif (http://www.postsmile.com/) http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/113.gif (http://www.postsmile.com/) But unfortunately
I cannot read Greek language.
Best regards.

aft_72005
04-04-2009, 04:40 AM
Best of all is infrared laser. Very incisive!


Hi rospyhttp://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/91.gif (http://www.postsmile.com/)
Esteban said about the upper section of the box.
Please more explain. What type circuit you utilize in lower section of the box?
Best regards.

Geo
04-04-2009, 05:59 AM
Best of all is infrared laser. Very incisive!


Hi Esteban.
At my tests better results are with laser 670nm
Regards:)

okantex
04-04-2009, 09:18 PM
I also wanted toread abaout this lazer but I could not. do you all know greek.
I could not translate it with google.page does not answers or blocks me.

Geo ,
we are waiting few wxplanations about this device. how does it works.
does it have transmitter , or just receiver?
which frequencies does it detect. can it show received frequency.
etc..

regards
Okantex

Geo
04-07-2009, 07:01 AM
Hi.
Problem with laser is that it don't work on Day, only on night. Of course it is "one of the same", it detects the old burried objects.
Regards:)

humhum
04-07-2009, 10:06 PM
Hi.
Problem with laser is that it don't work on Day, only on night. Of course it is "one of the same", it detects the old burried objects.
Regards:)

:)Hi Geo, your Device how work ? with Tx or Rx , or only Rx ?

My IR device works only (night) like receiver(Rx) in 650nm.
Works night because sunny light uncomfortable.

Geo
04-08-2009, 05:38 AM
:)Hi Geo, your Device how work ? with Tx or Rx , or only Rx ?

My IR device works only (night) like receiver(Rx) in 650nm.
Works night because sunny light uncomfortable.

Hi
My device work with both, Tx and Rx.
Regards:)

aft_72005
04-08-2009, 10:16 AM
Hi
My device work with both, Tx and Rx.
Regards:)

Hi Geo :)
Please more explain about circuit diagram or block diagram theory .
Best regards.

J_Player
04-09-2009, 05:47 AM
I have many photos with trips in USA in 1981 and 1983. There are 1,000 witnesses in this period, include Garrett and sons and the etc. of the factory.

In limit of factory was found a clock of sheriff Pat Garrett... (what coincidence!) with pistol detector at eyes of the Garretts... The common detector don't can detect it regarding the depth.

The clock has a legend like this: "The town of... to Pat Garrett... 1910".

Of course, ALL target planted in Garrett factory for tests (noble metals) was fixed EXACTLY with the pistol.

You can negate, but can't investigate? Eh? Ease way?:nono:Hi Esteban,
We always hear your talk about great performance of this detector. But nobody on earth can see this detector working in front of our eyes today. Why?

Is this only a story of 1000 witnesses, or can we also see the same detector working in front of us today?
If this detector worked a long time ago, then why does it not work today? Is this all a lie? Or is it real?

Can you show this detector working today to find long distance treasures so we can see it working?
Or will we only hear your stories of long-time buried grandeur from now to eternity?

Best wishes,
J_P

Theseus
04-09-2009, 01:47 PM
Hi Esteban,
We always hear your talk about great performance of this detector. But nobody on earth can see this detector working in front of our eyes today. Why?

Is this only a story of 1000 witnesses, or can we also see the same detector working in front of us today?
If this detector worked a long time ago, then why does it not work today? Is this all a lie? Or is it real?

Can you show this detector working today to find long distance treasures so we can see it working?
Or will we only hear your stories of long-time buried grandeur from now to eternity?

Best wishes,
J_P

Speaking of "seeing" long range detectors actually working; what is the latest on the demo Vincent (RT Examiner) was going to arrange for you?

Me thinks that demo has conveniently slid out of sight. ;)

:D

J_Player
04-10-2009, 02:43 AM
Speaking of "seeing" long range detectors actually working; what is the latest on the demo Vincent (RT Examiner) was going to arrange for you?

Me thinks that demo has conveniently slid out of sight. ;)
That demo has conveniently slid out of sight, but I continue to wait patiently for the person with name of Rangertell to send word that an alternate demonstration has been arranged, since his first choice of demonstrators did not respond to his emails.

Best wishes,
J_P

Fred
04-12-2009, 01:33 AM
That demo has conveniently slid out of sight, but I continue to wait patiently for the person with name of Rangertell to send word that an alternate demonstration has been arranged, since his first choice of demonstrators did not respond to his emails.

Best wishes,
J_P
Oh JP, i thought you where comfortably retired after you found big treaures with your newly bought RT :shocked:

J_Player
04-12-2009, 09:12 PM
Oh JP, i thought you where comfortably retired after you found big treaures with your newly bought RT :shocked:
Yup, I was planning to be polishing my newly found gold nuggets and ancient gold statues while others who didn't use a RangerTell were looking at their microgold under a microscpe by now. Maybe the RangerTell demonstrator is not answering his emails because he found big treasures and doesn't want anyone to know, so he can have all the good treasure hunting to himself.

Or maybe he didn't answer his emails because he is pissed cause he is a customer who didn't send back his RangerTell for a refund before the 7-day trial period expired. :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

Geo
04-29-2009, 05:15 AM
Hi Geo :)
Please more explain about circuit diagram or block diagram theory .
Best regards.

Hi aft. I transmit a beam with laser and a small power signal at 730MHZ.
I receive with a antenna tuned at 730Mhz.
Tx and Rx are vertical
There are people who says that the laser makes a road beside the beam and the positrons goes to the laser Led. At this place there is the UHF antenna


Regards:)

aft_72005
04-30-2009, 04:25 AM
Tx and Rx are vertical

Hi Geo :)
Is your opinion transmitter and receiver antenna ?
Best regards.

aft_72005
04-30-2009, 04:31 AM
Geo ,Other questions , what relation between buried metals what 730 MHZ ?
Can us using other frequency, for example at HF band ?
Best regards.

Geo
05-02-2009, 11:36 AM
Hi Geo :)
Is your opinion transmitter and receiver antenna ?
Best regards.


Hi aft.
i dont understand what you want to say
Regards

Geo
05-02-2009, 11:36 AM
Geo ,Other questions , what relation between buried metals what 730 MHZ ?
Can us using other frequency, for example at HF band ?
Best regards.



I dont know

Regards:)

aft_72005
05-02-2009, 02:43 PM
Hi aft.
i dont understand what you want to say
Regards

Hi Geo :)
Was your opinion position of transmitter and receiver antenna?
Best regards.

mahinda
09-13-2014, 03:54 PM
please ..give me this circuit diagrams...........................I am mahinda

reza vir
09-18-2014, 08:01 PM
Hi Geo Is this circuit is confidential?
If not confidential, please share it?
:)

reza vir
09-18-2014, 08:43 PM
:shrug: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=543&stc=1&d=1140692332

Geo
09-19-2014, 07:03 AM
I have not the schematic now (LRL is 5 years ago):(.
It is better to try the Franco's LRL.

Regards

reza vir
09-19-2014, 11:31 AM
I have not the schematic now (LRL is 5 years ago):(.
It is better to try the Franco's LRL.

Regards
Thank you dear friend To Answer .
Is it the specific name of the business?
Franco 3 Which device is better?
Thanks and regards

Geo
09-19-2014, 04:46 PM
Thank you dear friend To Answer .
Is it the specific name of the business?
Sorry but i can't understand what you mean...:frown:

Franco 3 Which device is better?
Thanks and regards

For me the best version is the one with the Xtal... at 8Mhz.

FrancoItaly
09-20-2014, 11:35 AM
Hi All
The best and more simple version is with quartz.
Regards

Geo
01-05-2016, 08:38 PM
New year... new LRL!!!!
I am near to finish my new lrl for 2016 and believe to work OK...:lol:
For the moment i attach 3 photos.

:):)

Mike(Mont)
01-05-2016, 08:56 PM
Looks very nice. What frequency does it run on? Of course I'd like to know how it works.

Geo
01-05-2016, 09:32 PM
Magnetic detector works near to 7.1 Khz.
Electric detector at few Mhz.....
Electric detector is a "small mod" of Franco's LRL.

indiana jones
01-05-2016, 10:13 PM
Happy New Year George
And many successes with new LRL :)

Mike(Mont)
01-05-2016, 10:23 PM
Magnetic detector works near to 7.1 Khz.
Electric detector at few Mhz.....
Electric detector is a "small mod" of Franco's LRL.

Is that the transmit or receiver frequency? Or does it have a transmitter?

abdou2014
01-05-2016, 11:54 PM
Take gold from the earth with you in the next life . my new GoldGun 918

WM6
01-06-2016, 03:16 AM
Beautiful Gold Gun - congratulations.

Geo
01-06-2016, 06:16 AM
Happy New Year George
And many successes with new LRL :)

Thanks christos...

Geo
01-06-2016, 06:20 AM
Is that the transmit or receiver frequency? Or does it have a transmitter?

It is the frequency of oscillator.
LRL has two detectors, one for magnetic fields and one for electric fields. With the magnetic detector it located a big object from 70m with very strong signal.

abdou2014
01-06-2016, 10:46 AM
BLACK VERSION WORK WITH TWO MODE . LONG RANGE AND EXTRA LONG RANGE . WHITE VERSION ONE MODE.

Geo
01-06-2016, 11:32 AM
Why you are a spammer????
There are so many threads about goldgun and you put the photos of your here...:(:(

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 02:25 PM
It is the frequency of oscillator.
LRL has two detectors, one for magnetic fields and one for electric fields. With the magnetic detector it located a big object from 70m with very strong signal.

Is the oscillator for transmitting a signal? You see, I don't know much of anything about the pistol detectors. I thought they have a transmitter (the large coil) and a receiver (the ferrite rod). So I can only guess the oscillator is a transmitter.

Geo
01-06-2016, 03:22 PM
At my lrl i use the oscillator only as signal sample.

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 03:32 PM
Again, I am illiterate on this but I assume that means something like the frequency discriminators.

WM6
01-06-2016, 03:38 PM
So I can only guess the oscillator is a transmitter.



Oscillator circuits can serve as both: as transmitter circuit (active oscillator) and as receiver circuit (passive oscillator).

In general oscillator circuit is tuned at desired frequency (which is "pass through" for desired/tuned frequency and all other undesired/untuned frequencies are damped or, as you say, "discriminated")

FrancoItaly
01-06-2016, 03:51 PM
My LRL is a passive receiver, the oscillator only serves to generate a reference signal which is modulated by the phenomenon. The phenomenon has undoubtedly an electrical component which acts on the antenna, or acts on an existing signal in the range 100-200 MHz, or acts on a sub harmonic in the GHz range.

WM6
01-06-2016, 04:37 PM
Always internal (circuits) source of phenomenon (interferences, harmonics, mirroring, l/c coupling, unintended oscillations, unintended converting circuit - as par example from receiver to some sort of magnetometer etc.) should be excluded, before end-conclusion about external source of phenomenon.

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 04:47 PM
Oscillator circuits can serve as both: as transmitter circuit (active oscillator) and as receiver circuit (passive oscillator).

In general oscillator circuit is tuned at desired frequency (which is "pass through" for desired/tuned frequency and all other undesired/untuned frequencies are damped or, as you say, "discriminated")

Well, I actually think I understand what you are saying. :) It sort of drowns out the other "noise" and has constructive interference.

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 04:49 PM
My LRL is a passive receiver, the oscillator only serves to generate a reference signal which is modulated by the phenomenon. The phenomenon has undoubtedly an electrical component which acts on the antenna, or acts on an existing signal in the range 100-200 MHz, or acts on a sub harmonic in the GHz range.

Is this something like the original Gold Gun and the AGR Receiver? Excite the target and it radiates a lower frequency?

FrancoItaly
01-06-2016, 04:55 PM
I repeat, it is a passive receiver, there's no transmitter, the oscillator stage is not connected to the antenna, is the phenomenon that propagates away from the metal buried.

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 05:01 PM
Go look at Accurate Locators the AGR receiver is passive. Appears to be same as Gold Gun only tuneable.

FrancoItaly
01-06-2016, 05:09 PM
The fact that it has the highest sensitivity in the direction north south suggests that there is a connection (if not directly) with the Earth's magnetic field and the compass effect partly confirms this hypothesis, in fact, if the gain is too high the LRL becomes a compass. One explanation could be the solar wind deflected by the Earth's magnetic field, it is a flow of ions that could esssere modulated by the phenomenon, but I do not have the skills to prove it also seems that the solar wind does not come to touch the earth's surface, for at least in measurable amount.

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 05:15 PM
Some of the wording in the AGR owner's manual is identical to the original Gold Gun. It might not be the same circuit, but the principle appears to be the same: Local AM radio stations excite the target and it radiates at a lower frequency. The part where it gets hard to swallow is for areas of no AM reception. You just tune exactly to a VLF station.

Mike(Mont)
01-06-2016, 10:06 PM
At my lrl i use the oscillator only as signal sample.

What elements does it detect? High conductive metals?

enjoykin4
01-10-2016, 11:06 PM
Dear Signore Geo, Greece

I am waiting your test results - good luck with your new two detectors at test field.
I wish you many big shiny yellow coins from the ancient times. :)


http://www.world-mysteries.com/coral_edleeds.jpg

ps: Edward Leedskalnin's (Latvian: Edvards Liedskalniņš)
work on Magnetic Current(s), Magnetism, and the nature of the universe.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle1.htm

http://www.world-mysteries.com/coral_book.jpg

Free download:
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

With respect
enjoykin4

Geo
01-11-2016, 07:01 AM
What elements does it detect? High conductive metals?

Noble metals..

Geo
01-11-2016, 07:05 AM
Dear Signore Geo, Greece

I am waiting your test results - good luck with your new two detectors at test field.
I wish you many big shiny yellow coins from the ancient times. :)


http://www.world-mysteries.com/coral_edleeds.jpg

ps: Edward Leedskalnin's (Latvian: Edvards Liedskalniņš)
work on Magnetic Current(s), Magnetism, and the nature of the universe.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_coralcastle1.htm

http://www.world-mysteries.com/coral_book.jpg

Free download:
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Magnets/Leedskalnin/Magnetic-Current_Edward-Leedskalnin_51pp.pdf

With respect
enjoykin4


Thanks, i need some time more to finish it.
I"ll inform here with new photos
At LRLs the detail makes the difference
:)

ps... Thanks for the file about magnetic current

Mike(Mont)
01-11-2016, 02:19 PM
Noble metals..

Are all noble metals diamagnetic?

Mike(Mont)
01-11-2016, 03:21 PM
Just did a quick search on diamagnetism. Turns out almost all elements have some amount of diamagnetic properties. One thing that brings out the magnetism is a changing magnetic field (like a frequency generator?). I saw something about gold nano-particles that have much higher diamagnetic properties. So now I wonder about the long time buried gold being easier to detect. Maybe those nano-particles surround it.

Mike(Mont)
01-11-2016, 04:35 PM
Noble metals..


Getting back to the gold nano-rods being highly diamagnetic, at least since the 1980's Dell Winders and others have talked about micro particles of gold. Dell said 90% of all hits are from these insignificant amounts.

Mike(Mont)
01-11-2016, 05:14 PM
www.emfl.eu/research/highlights/researchers-show-giant-diamagnetism-of-gold-nanorods.html

The gold nanoparticles are 14 times stronger than bulk gold.

Also of note is carbon is diamagnetic and many locators have a diamond frequency.

WM6
01-12-2016, 04:11 AM
Are all noble metals diamagnetic?

Of best known (Gold, Silver, Copper, Zinc) all.

But if, par example: Platinum, Aluminum and Titanium are for us noble metals, they are not diamagnetic, but paramagnetic.

And Iron is not only ferromagnetic metal, but there are some others like Nickel and Manganese (and some others) too.

If you wish to make for MD invisible coin, then take alloy based on Chromium with Iron, cause Chromium is Anti-ferromagnetic.

Geo
01-13-2016, 07:39 AM
I am near to finish my project.
Magnetic detector goes very good at field test. It detects a gold coin from 5m far very easy and a silver olate 10x10cm from the same distance. There are problems with the terrain so i can't test the detector from more far but i am sure that it can go at least from 10..15 m.
Problem is the Franco's detector that i have in the bottom of the case. It can't detect the objects even if i"ll move the detector exactly over the buried objects. Also Franco's detector (xtal version) don't works as compass if set the sensitivity at full... maybe it needs more gain, who knows????.... only Franco :cool:

abdou2014
01-13-2016, 08:03 AM
nice job good luck !

FrancoItaly
01-13-2016, 10:24 AM
Hi Geo,
Yes with my lrl there is no signal over the target but it was what Esteban said. If there isn't compass effect with max gain it is necessary to increase the gain of the LM358. With the gain at most there must be the compass effect, so you have to decrease until it disappears.
You can say something more on the magnetic detector?
Regards

WM6
01-13-2016, 02:13 PM
Nice construction Geo. Is it without ferrite antenna?

Hadi
01-14-2016, 03:42 AM
Hi Geo

That seem you didn't use ferrite core and if you use antenna instead ferrite why didn't use wire around antenna? maybe this method go to better.

Mike(Mont)
01-14-2016, 04:16 AM
Pretty sure I saw a ferrite in the earlier photos.

Geo
01-14-2016, 06:46 AM
Nice construction Geo. Is it without ferrite antenna?

Hi WM6.
No, there is a 20cm ferrite.

:)

Geo
01-14-2016, 06:52 AM
Hi Geo,
Yes with my lrl there is no signal over the target but it was what Esteban said. If there isn't compass effect with max gain it is necessary to increase the gain of the LM358. With the gain at most there must be the compass effect, so you have to decrease until it disappears.
You can say something more on the magnetic detector?
Regards

Thank you Franco, will increase the gain and inform you.
Now about the magnetic detector is a modified IB detector with ferrite and special setting of phase. Frequency of this detector is near to 7.1 khz but also i have a version at 500kHz.
I found many objects with it but it is very difficault the phase adjusting.

Regards:)

Geo
01-26-2016, 05:32 AM
I made a mod at display stage of Franco's lrl (xtal version) and now it works perfect.
Very very stable and leds lights when i touch the antenna. I did not try it out of the lab so don't know if it catch the "compass phenomenon".
I"ll do it soon....
:)

FrancoItaly
01-26-2016, 10:44 AM
Hi Geo,
When you touch the antenna the led must go off and with the phenomenon the led(s) must go on but I'm not sure in 100% of cases, by touching the antenna we know that in principle all the electronic works well but it is an empirical way and it may be that touching the antenna has an increased signal as with the phenomenon, but I must say that I never happened.
Best Regards

Geo
01-27-2016, 06:05 AM
Hi Franco.
I used display schematic of PLL lrl so now when i touch the antenna led turns on.
Also when i touch the antenna the dc output (after the filter) is increased.
Now i fly to Germany and tomorrow i will be to Italy for 2 days. After it i"ll go home and will write more....

Regards

enjoykin4
01-28-2016, 07:54 PM
Hi Geo,
When you touch the antenna the led must go off and with the phenomenon the led(s) must go on but I'm not sure in 100% of cases, by touching the antenna we know that in principle all the electronic works well but it is an empirical way and it may be that touching the antenna has an increased signal as with the phenomenon, but I must say that I never happened.
Best Regards

Signore Franco

Is this valid for your PLL4046 LRL version or for Phantom LRL - Quartz Crystal version and earlier versions ?

FrancoItaly
01-28-2016, 09:18 PM
Hi enjoykin4,
In all the lrls that I build the target signal and the "touch" signal they are in opposition, but with 4046 lrl it may be that the phase changes for the 2 signals they are the same, perhaps the cause it may be the pcb or parassitic coupling. If we consider a vlf metal detector in all metal mode ferrous and no ferrous target they show the same phase change but opposite amplitude variation. Anyway the important thing is that a target signal it causes a positive signal

Best Regards

Geo
01-31-2016, 06:27 AM
Hi Franco.
At output of RC filter the target causes a positive or negative signal??

Regards

FrancoItaly
01-31-2016, 10:24 AM
Hi Geo,
At output of RC filter the target causes a positive signal, but this is sure for quartz version, for 4046 version it's possible also the contrary as we have a phase change, the better thing is to try on field.

Regards

Geo
01-31-2016, 07:37 PM
New detector is ready. The only that i must do is to close the box, so i give some more photos.

Geo
01-31-2016, 07:42 PM
...... other two....

enjoykin4
01-31-2016, 08:11 PM
Hi Geo

What kind of Omega antenna is this ??

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19520&stc=1&d=1454269023

Does this new project is yours or modification of FrancoItaly schematics ??

Did your detector detected Gold coin and silver plate 10x10cm at 5m distances in air or in the ground. I am asking about "Phenomenon" - old gold and silver or fresh gold and silver ?

ps: about the output of PLL4046 LRL - R3C4-R4C5-R5C6 low pass filter secton - it shoud be negative - so after inverting the "target" signal with IC2A {LM358} you get positive one or in other words LED light(s) will be turned on.

ps2: If you want tell me more additional data about your ferrite and omega antennas !! In ferrites exist a process known as Ferromagnetic resonance..... there are also present (in ferrite domains) unknown sorts of spatial spiral waves. There are also exist many Free Energy devices (up to copule of KWatts) extracting Free Energy (electricity) from the Ferrite's structure.


Best regards
Enjoykin4

Geo
02-01-2016, 06:43 AM
Hi.
Coil is not an Omega type but a Coplanar. It works as a magnetic field detector and the ferrite back of it "gives" more sensitivity. It can detect a buried coin (for long time) from 15m easy. With it i found a metalic box from 70m far.
I don't understand what you mean about ferrites. Ferrite at my lrl has a u=400 and dimentions 10x200mm.
The EFD is the Franco's detector, the xtal version. I did not check it again after the mods....
Will try to do it soon.

Regards:)

enjoykin4
02-01-2016, 02:20 PM
Hi Geo

You have broke all physics laws with your new detector. 70 meter for box and 15 meter for golden coin is a cosmic technology. Even GPR cant compete with your detector. :)

Now you have to dig all Greek's gold you can find. And it is a lot of GOLD.

Regards

Geo
02-01-2016, 02:27 PM
Hi.
You have n't righ :nono:
There are better lrls that can catch the phenomenon from longer distance. If phenomenon is strong then all are possible.
I can give you more examples.

Regards:)

enjoykin4
02-01-2016, 02:58 PM
Geo how can you pin-pointing small golden coin - for example at 200 meter distance or better and 20 meter (or better) depth in the ground ??

With Flux-gate magnetometer or proton-procession magnetometers you can detect very easy precise variations (disturbances) of earth magnetic field caused for example by iron deposits but not gold or silver or diamonds.

If you are interesting i can give you schematic of Russian Professional Proton Magnetometer ММР-203 but he cant help you to detect golden deposits. Proton Magnetometer use massive copper sensor flooded in kerosene to shorten relaxation times of proton fluid and give better accuracy.

I dont think "vector magnetic field" is crucial for detecting "PHENOMENON". :)


ps: Try this trick and you will know what kind of EM radiation is present. Put your antenna in Farday shield (heavy metal box - complete detector with antenna) and try to detect something but move yourself several meters from working detector.

If there was existed Scalar Radiation from golden target you will detect it with easy because Scalar EM waves can not be shielded like Vector EM waves. This is the cause for example in properly constructed and tunned Tesla Magnifying Transformer.
Small Tesla transformer send and receive Longitudinal Scalar Waves even he was in heavy metallic box earthed at one point.


Regards.

Geo
02-01-2016, 04:01 PM
All are simple. Itake the signal from 3 different positions and go at the point where the lines intersecting. After it i use a lrl as Franco's or Alonso's pd or.... to pinpoint the object. Most times i use a metal detector to pinpoint but if the depth is not low then i have a problem. This is the reason that i "play" with other types of lrls, i am looking something for lower depth to pinpoint the buried objects. But i don't need 20m depth, how to dig it???:lol:.
A depth of 1m for medium or large objects is enough.

Regards

Mike(Mont)
02-01-2016, 04:51 PM
My two cents here. Ask yourself the question "Why won't a locator detect a freshly buried target (below 20 cm)?" And "Why will a locator detect a long-time buried target?" the answer is obvious that the locator is not detecting the target itself but rather the field surrounding the target. My opinion is the Faraday cage test is irrelevant or else the locator would be able to detect a freshly buried target and that doesn't happen even if the locator can pass the Faraday cage test. Below 20cm the field of a freshly buried target is blocked. I don't know all the factors but soil composition and moisture have an effect on how long it takes before the target field builds large enough to be detected. Many people say cosmic rays are a factor. Dell Winders said long ago that conditions started to diminish in the year 1988. If you look on the charts, the cosmic radiation started to decrease right about then.

cosmicrays.oulu.fi

enjoykin4
02-01-2016, 05:35 PM
All are simple. Itake the signal from 3 different positions and go at the point where the lines intersecting. After it i use a lrl as Franco's or Alonso's pd or.... to pinpoint the object. Most times i use a metal detector to pinpoint but if the depth is not low then i have a problem. This is the reason that i "play" with other types of lrls, i am looking something for lower depth to pinpoint the buried objects. But i don't need 20m depth, how to dig it???:lol:.
A depth of 1m for medium or large objects is enough.

Regards

Geo I don't see triangular configuration of your coils. :nono: Your ferrite antenna coil is right behind your front coplanar coil so this means you have very small polar coordinates angle. By the way calculating exact 3D position of target while you are moving (or not moving) using triangulation technique is complicated process and you need very fast and complex digital logic to do it in real-time. I dont see any notebook or android computer to make a math for you.

That triangular schematic procedure had been used one of the best Russian physicist (in that time he was a pupil of 6th class) to estimate correct position of underground nuclear explosion site in Khazakstan in 1960th.... years. Reading data posted in Moscow PRAVDA from 1960th.... from 3 earthquake stations in Sverige (Sweden) , France and Japan and finding intersection point he had successfully estimated correct position of underground blast. When he was explained KGB colonel how he had calculated correct nuclear position - colones couldnt belive it is so simple and took his head with both hands and long time shaked it. :lol: This is a Real anegdote from his life. Lately he was working on Russian Cosmic Programm called BURAN. :)

regards
Enjoykin4

enjoykin4
02-01-2016, 06:04 PM
My two cents here. Ask yourself the question "Why won't a locator detect a freshly buried target (below 20 cm)?" And "Why will a locator detect a long-time buried target?" the answer is obvious that the locator is not detecting the target itself but rather the field surrounding the target. My opinion is the Faraday cage test is irrelevant or else the locator would be able to detect a freshly buried target and that doesn't happen even if the locator can pass the Faraday cage test. Below 20cm the field of a freshly buried target is blocked. I don't know all the factors but soil composition and moisture have an effect on how long it takes before the target field builds large enough to be detected. Many people say cosmic rays are a factor. Dell Winders said long ago that conditions started to diminish in the year 1988. If you look on the charts, the cosmic radiation started to decrease right about then.

cosmicrays.oulu.fi

Hello Mike(Mont)

You know - i think you have a right 100500%. Long range locator does not detect the target itself but complex anomaly of the field surrounding the target. It means there exist some kind of interferention pattern around any target not only in soil but also inthe air or even in free space (Vacuum.) Targets like Gold, Silver, Platinum etc.... can be illuminated naturaly with positive and negatives nodes via divergence of Vector Magnetic Potential (Нscalr* = -divA) with complex cubic structure of Hartman ’s lattice network.

Example of network
http://ecocentre.am/wp-content/uploads/Geoch/Publ/Public/20Radon_as_Indication_of_Hartmanns_Lattice_Network _and_the_Dynamics_of_Solar-Terrestrial_Relationship.pdf

Materialization of k,t and DI structure (cubic lattice) in atmosphere recorded in South Ossetia several years ago.

http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/9/105/424/105424046_large_reshetka.jpg

Satellite records from ISS - atmosphere structure materialization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03_YivC59XA

Best regards :)
enjoykin4

enjoykin4
02-01-2016, 06:35 PM
http://img11.nnm.me/4/a/e/d/2/258c8c90da03ce11885a3054fba.jpg

enjoykin4
02-01-2016, 06:36 PM
Mike(mont)

Important thing is complex Hartman ’s lattice network exist not only in earth atmosphere but also in oceans , seas, lakes, rivers, ground, deep underground - very probably in the space till some distance.

http://cs628021.vk.me/v628021106/3e906/mDgMJk6Km9U.jpg

All of these data give us very interesting conclusion that our planet Midgard-Earth (Midgard is Cosmic name of our planet) has complex crystal structure and many substructures - some kind of complex fractal chiral symmetry .... like a giant energetic diamond with a lot of small diamonds (energetic nodes and subnodes at sublevels) and more additional recursive sub-sub nodes of sublevels structure (parent-child hierarchy).

Example of complex dynamics of interferention patterns - quadratic nonlinear waves

http://cs633420.vk.me/v633420716/1168b/XSsr84rARk8.jpg
http://cs630026.vk.me/v630026703/10a2f/g3QFcAPh3wE.jpg
http://cs633420.vk.me/v633420716/11693/Ahd9iMf5iKg.jpg


Regards
Enjoykin4

Mike(Mont)
02-01-2016, 07:57 PM
I plead ignorance. I don't know anything about the Hartmann Grid. i know there are some vortices that probably pull in some cosmic rays. I also know cosmic rays are unpolarized. I also know during times of strong solar activity, the cosmic rays are deflected away from the earth. So i suspect they work something like light waves when they hit a molecule and excite it.

Mike(Mont)
02-15-2016, 05:42 PM
Geo, how goes your project?

Geo
02-15-2016, 07:07 PM
I fixed it but no free time to go out to check it!!!
Some days i am busy, other days is raining....:angry:

:)

Mike(Mont)
02-15-2016, 08:13 PM
Does it need to be dry soil?

Geo
02-15-2016, 09:28 PM
It is better for the magnetic detector....

WM6
02-15-2016, 10:49 PM
Some days i am busy, other days is raining....:angry:

:)

The same here, but at the end: Nenikḗkamen.

Geo
02-16-2016, 06:37 AM
hahaha... i hope!!!!
:)

BENZINAS
02-18-2016, 08:02 PM
I am near to finish my project.
Magnetic detector goes very good at field test. It detects a gold coin from 5m far very easy and a silver olate 10x10cm from the same distance. There are problems with the terrain so i can't test the detector from more far but i am sure that it can go at least from 10..15 m.
Problem is the Franco's detector that i have in the bottom of the case. It can't detect the objects even if i"ll move the detector exactly over the buried objects. Also Franco's detector (xtal version) don't works as compass if set the sensitivity at full... maybe it needs more gain, who knows????.... only Franco :cool:

Nice work george as always , too many treasures waiting a detector like that to give the freedom they need so many years buried underground and make some people happy , your expirience in that area is pricless and would be helpfull if one day make one for us.....the hunters of gold treasure dream . BENZINAS words and hopes !!!

Geo
02-18-2016, 08:25 PM
Hi vageli.
I am happy that i hear you. How are you???

:)

indiana jones
02-18-2016, 08:38 PM
Hello Geo
Hello Vangelis.

Vagelis is well he has found the treasure.

Geo
02-18-2016, 08:41 PM
Βρε σεις που μαζευτηκατε εδω αποψε????:)

Hello where are you??

:lol::lol:

indiana jones
02-18-2016, 08:45 PM
We are here every day.
And watching you

keep walking Geo :)

apogonos
02-18-2016, 10:17 PM
good evening and myself

BENZINAS
02-19-2016, 07:32 PM
Hi vageli.
I am happy that i hear you. How are you???

:)

Hi george , i'm fine thank you , all the good boys from psaxtiria '' indiana,apogonos , me benzinas ,'' watching your work and feel proud for you , keep making.....keep making george.......

enjoykin4
02-20-2016, 06:14 AM
Hi Geo

Tell me winding directions of all 3 coplanar coils and inductance values. I suppose you have tunned resonance at 7.5KHz right with bunch of capacitors bellow ??
What about the coil phase adjustments ? Do you have nulling exactly to zero volts (null) or you have tuned at some very small DC-offset equal to input offset of your OP input stage (to compensate differential inbalance) ?

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19520&stc=1&d=1454269023


Also several questions about your ferrite "Stimulus" coil. Is there only one winding or several windings over ferrite core. Also i need to know inductance and right distance from center of coplanar coil. I suppose ferrite core pointing exactly to center of 3 coplanar coils or maybe you have some XY offset positions. Ferrite core for sure influent phase shift of your coplanar coils. Does ferrite stimuls coil(s) work at 7.5KHz or at some sub-harmonic of 7.5 KHz frequency ??


http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19522&stc=1&d=1454269023

PS: I have asked all of these becuase i try to understand all variable which influent Directional pattern of this complex conical system of multiple coils (coplanar plus ferrite stimulus).

Does strong electric field make some erratic behavour of your detector or not ??

If this detector work as detector of pure Scalar waves (underground target siganl) you could make some distance test from 0 meters (right at front of coplanar coils up to 300-400 meter using stong referent scalar signal from Siberian Colia magnet configuartion.
If you are interesing and wish make some experiments, i can tell you how to make one.

if you get positive results we ( you and me) can try make quadrapole configuration of coils and also try to make new cylindrical capacitor antenna as front preamplifier of your detector (in principle any LRL scalar detector).

PS: But I suppose that at your place is too much raining :D , and you aslo have a lot of farm homeworks - have not time for laboratory experiments.

PS1: Matrix of IR, LASER or high bright LED diodes also can rise background Magnetic vector potential A→, improving signal detection distance from underground gold treasury.
Look at this like Low NF charging pump source. This work even if you block all optical emmisions from diode matrix because interior scalar emission (at semiconductor levels) can not be easy shieled (but is also possible). By the way scalar signal from gold drop at 1/r law multiple some constant which depend of soil mixture).

thatis all for now. Waiting to stop raining !!:D (so much raining forests in Greece :lol:)


Best regards to you and "raining" Greece !!
Enjoykin4 - Няш Мяш

enjoykin4
02-24-2016, 10:30 PM
Still RAINING in Greece GEO !!


Read: http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=152662&postcount=201

I suppose it is a main reason for your silence !! :lol::lol::lol:

or maybe

MONEY TALK !! :cool:

Geo
02-25-2016, 05:55 AM
Hahaha.... maybe at Russia you have solve all your problems (i wish), but here at Greece we must work hard to live , so first is the hard work and if there is free time we can go for hobby. For the time no rain but hard work

:lol:

Geo
03-08-2016, 05:55 AM
I fixed it but no free time to go out to check it!!!
Some days i am busy, other days is raining....:angry:

:)

Finally yesterday i found time to test it. At test field there are some copper coins dotted at a place 1x1 m and depth near to 30cm. Franco's version locates them from 2..3 m distance very clear. Problem is that i have reverse audio so must adjust it to beep and when is at line with objects it stops to beep. I must revrse the audio again. Better direction is from north to south.


Regards

FrancoItaly
03-08-2016, 10:02 AM
Hi Geo,
I'm glad you've finally been able to get my LRL, I began to think that does not work in Greece ... What version did you use for testing?
Regards

Geo
03-08-2016, 11:26 AM
Hi Geo,
I'm glad you've finally been able to get my LRL, I began to think that does not work in Greece ... What version did you use for testing?
Regards

Hi Franco, it is the Xtal version.
Also a friend from Greece (and member here) has good results with your lrl.
I saw that when the antenna is slightly tilted towards the ground I have better results. Does this applies to you too??

Regards

FrancoItaly
03-08-2016, 11:41 AM
Hi Geo,
During the search the antenna is parallel to ground, when I approach the target I tilt the antenna towards the ground for a sort of pinpoint.
Best Regards

enjoykin4
03-08-2016, 01:38 PM
Hello Dear FrancoItaly

Yes, your LRL detectors both version Quartz and PLL4046 work and work good. I want to publically admit this fact.

Best regards
enjoykin4

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/0/4/enjoykin4g_1881261_21015304.gif

Geo
03-08-2016, 06:33 PM
Next week if will have free time will go to another field test with buried silver coins.
Of course will inform forum.

Enjoykin4...... if will rain ....:lol:

Regards

Geo
03-10-2016, 07:19 PM
Today i made more tests.
1. at old test field with copper coins. Xtal version caught the coins from 2..3m. Also with full sensitivity it was sensitive to magnetic horizons.
PLL version had not success nor coins nor at horizons, i don't know why.

2. I went to another field test with silver coins buried for 2+ years at 35... 50 cm depth.
Xtal version caught easy the North horizon but not the coins.
Pll version again did not catch anything, although when i touch the antenna it beeps.

I will try again after some days....

:)

pigeon
03-11-2016, 08:44 AM
bravo geo beautifyl job

Geo
01-16-2024, 07:03 PM
It was time for a new lrl.
So this year i begun to construct something better . It will be a Tesla lrl.

For the time a photo only!!!!

:):):):):)

Zicos
01-18-2024, 10:59 AM
very nice build. you are ( meraklis )

Geo
01-18-2024, 01:14 PM
Thanks.
You must remember that a good lrl begins from a good box!!!

:)

Mike(Mont)
01-18-2024, 02:29 PM
Looks nice. I don't know anything about conical coils but it seems if the voltage enters from the wide end the wave will have a "phased array" effect. Maybe pulse length could be timed via wire length.

Geo
01-18-2024, 07:20 PM
With conical coils we have better directionality. With this object i try to make a clone of Tesla lrl designed by Alonso. Conical coil would supplied with 1000V tention. Also i plan to use a laser so to create a path with plasma.....

:):)

Sneshko
01-19-2024, 12:07 PM
Dear Geo,
are you thinking of making a clone of this Alonso Tesla LRL?
Regards!
Sneshko

Geo
01-19-2024, 08:05 PM
Hi.
Yes... but not 100%. I think to make some mods and to play with the creation of "plasma" using laser. Years ago i constructed something similar but without the hight voltage.

:)

Geo
01-20-2024, 06:53 PM
Here the back side with few pcbs....:):)

abdou2014
01-21-2024, 12:11 AM
very nice Geo , can we see the TX stage schema ? :)

Geo
01-21-2024, 06:58 AM
There is n't Tx stage.
Tesla coil is supplied with 1000 V dc.

abdou2014
01-21-2024, 07:33 AM
without oscillator and frequency ?

Geo
01-21-2024, 02:01 PM
Yes....:)

Geo
01-21-2024, 02:13 PM
Tesla coil must end in a sharp point.
For this i took a male terminal and made it a litle sharp with the lathe.
Inside the terminal we can put any metal for sample(if we like it)???:lol:

Geo
01-21-2024, 03:15 PM
Coil with terminal

abdou2014
01-21-2024, 04:46 PM
very nice work, can I use a high voltage generator module ?

Geo
01-21-2024, 07:13 PM
Yes but be carefull. Hight tention is very dangerous.
You must charge a capacitor via module. Capacitor keeps the electric charge for 25... 30 minutes. Also u must connect resistors for current protection.
Again..... Be carefull

abdou2014
01-22-2024, 08:08 PM
Thanks dear friend

Yusufyaba
01-23-2024, 09:23 AM
Yes but be carefull. Hight tention is very dangerous.
You must charge a capacitor via module. Capacitor keeps the electric charge for 25... 30 minutes. Also u must connect resistors for current protection.
Again..... Be carefull

CEO

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2p6SeXneE&pp=ygUSQWxwaGEgaGlnaCB2b2x0YWdl

I don't think the static that occurs as in the example video is always close.

https://www.elecbee.com/tr-26555-5V-12V-Step-Up-to-300V-1200V-DC-DC-Boost-Converter-High-Voltage-Power-Boost-Module

Would a sample module (not an advertisement) be enough?

And I think the gold-plated banana socket is advantageous.

Geo
01-23-2024, 03:58 PM
CEO

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2p6SeXneE&pp=ygUSQWxwaGEgaGlnaCB2b2x0YWdl

I don't think the static that occurs as in the example video is always close.

Sorry but i don't understand what u mean!!


https://www.elecbee.com/tr-26555-5V-12V-Step-Up-to-300V-1200V-DC-DC-Boost-Converter-High-Voltage-Power-Boost-Module

Would a sample module (not an advertisement) be enough?

:)

And I think the gold-plated banana socket is advantageous.

I believe that its enough

abdou2014
01-24-2024, 10:41 AM
Geo has said on several occasions that a radioactive receiver does not detect the phenomenon .

Geo
01-24-2024, 01:20 PM
Phenomenon is not radioactive, but some metals if they have excited *with radioactive or cosmic radiation) can emmite large amount of energy.....
Some of these metals are gold, silver ,copper etc.

:)

Geo
01-24-2024, 08:15 PM
Project is near to finish :)

kostas87
01-24-2024, 08:19 PM
A true masterpiece!!

Geo
01-25-2024, 08:01 AM
........:thumb:

abdou2014
01-26-2024, 10:43 AM
pls Mr Geo , can this device react to fresh gold , to test if it's ready to work ?

Geo
01-26-2024, 03:46 PM
For the time no. If (and when...) i make it able to create Plasma then yes.
Plasma creation needs a big power laser and a big battery that are not convenient to a lrl.
The cost also will run very hight, and will must not forget that lrls absically is a hobby not a job.

:):)

abdou2014
01-28-2024, 10:16 AM
did you use in your device laser or infrared beam or only HV tesla generator ?

Geo
01-28-2024, 02:28 PM
all of these and ++++:lol:

abdou2014
01-28-2024, 10:13 PM
it's just question , not all data with receiver schematic and layout :razz:

Geo
01-29-2024, 07:47 AM
U misunderstanded what i wrote.
I use all u wrote plus magnetic receiver plus discrimination system.
Laser is small power and i believe it will not do anything

abdou2014
01-29-2024, 05:37 PM
i understood , can you tell us a little about the discrimination system

Geo
01-30-2024, 08:23 AM
Many years ago Esteban posted the attached schema about Tesla and discrimination.

abdou2014
01-30-2024, 07:51 PM
Mr Geo, what is the maximum detection distance and depth for a small treasure ?

Geo
01-30-2024, 08:09 PM
I don't know what u mean "small treasure" so i"ll tell u between 100 and 300 meters. I saw it at similar lrl not at myne because i have n't finish it.

abdou2014
01-30-2024, 09:05 PM
and i think we can use it to any direction not only toward south ?

Geo
01-30-2024, 09:23 PM
Who knows???? it depents from the method that it detects the target, magnetic field, optical etc...

Yusufyaba
01-31-2024, 08:28 AM
Coil with terminal

Geo parts that will take months to try are very long shipping from Amazon.

Is there a VCA in your receiver circuit? What is the secret here or how do you amplify the very low signal?

thanks

Geo
01-31-2024, 03:59 PM
What are u mean "Is there a VCA in your receiver circuit"? what u mean VCA??
There are many secrets but i can't tell them.:frown:

Yusufyaba
01-31-2024, 06:51 PM
What are u mean "Is there a VCA in your receiver circuit"? what u mean VCA??
There are many secrets but i can't tell them.:frown:

geo

sorry for the translation

Can't convert what I write

vca voltage controlled amplifier. Its task is to obtain high voltage output according to the reference frequency. While doing this, it is to present the signals at the reference frequency in a better state.

Also, I don't want to know your secrets.

I want to learn about electronic connections that everyone knows but I don't