just another

[Max]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DhV4pxFaM0&feature=related

[Carl-NC]

Looked a heckuvalot like a dowsing rod to me, but I guess my imagination is lacking.

[Esteban]

From Greece

[Theseus]

Looked a heckuvalot like a dowsing rod to me, but I guess my imagination is lacking.

Several things to note in that video.

First, the "machine" is obviously another dowsing L-rod, with do-nothing electronics added. Only difference is, the pivot point is inside the black box.

Second, if this fellow actually had a gold target buried at the depth he indicated, it must have been placed in the ground a very long time ago, because the grass showed NO indication of being disturbed in recent months. Otherwise, he was merely forcing the "machine" to react for demonstration purposes only.

Third, this fellow should spend more time mowing his lawn, and less time making scam dowsing rods. (Especially, prior to filming a demo to sell his "machine".)

[putrechigi]

i postr this some mons ago:):)

but it have the web site?

[Götz von Berlichingen]

Its http://www.detectors.gr/

[Geo]

Inside the LRL. Between the Rx antenas there is a laser module. I dont think that it works......:lol::lol::lol:

[Qiaozhi]

But ... it must work!
Look at the amount of hot-glue they've used. :lol:

Anyway, it was shown on YouTube, so it must be true. :razz:

Hope you didn't waste good money on this contraption.

Sarcasm hat off now: Thanks for sharing the gory details. :thumb:

[Esteban]

Inside the LRL. Between the Rx antenas there is a laser module. I dont think that it works......:lol::lol::lol:

This can't be electrostatic. Maybe by the plastic! :lol:

[Qiaozhi]

This can't be electrostatic. Maybe by the plastic! :lol:
I agree. It's a dowsing rod in disguise. :lol:

[Theseus]

I agree. It's a dowsing rod in disguise. :lol:

The swivel antennas inside the box are a dead giveaway. At least he didn't use a paint roller rod. Although the hot glued "do-nothing" parts look like something Dell Winders or Thomas Afilani may have cooked up. Do you suppose these guys buy hot glue in a 50 gallon drum? :D

The sad thing is.... some poor fool will actually fall for that scam.

[putrechigi]

Inside the LRL. Between the Rx antenas there is a laser module. I dont think that it works......:lol::lol::lol:

see if he comes to italy for the test ;);)

[Dell Winders]

If any of you had any knowledge of LRL as it is pretended, you would know this is nothing new.

In 1980, Wayne Darnell, marketed the first directional locator with concealed swivel rods, that completed an electrical circuit that lit a light, and sounded a buzzer when the unit was tilted slightly and the rods swung to one side, or the other.

Although the builder of this unit appears to be attempting simple Frequency Discrimination, in my experience I find that discrimination is greatly diminished when the broadcast frequency is encompassed in the same housing as the receiving antenna(s).

Needless to say, that in my opinion, that type of electronic monitoring is useless, and is included merely as a deceptive, pretend technology sales gimmick to command more money.

FYI, I don't use hot glue in the products I build. That is another of the Skeptics deceptive ruses. Dell

[Geo]

This can't be electrostatic. Maybe by the plastic! :lol:
of course it is not electrostatic. It has a 555 oscilator (vlf) that drives the antenna and a audio amplifier conected to the other 2 antennas. For me the laser dont do anything. The detector must work at vhf if we want the laser to do something!!!
I think you Know:lol:
Regards:)

[Dell Winders]

The Laser is merely a pointer. It has no other function. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

FYI, I don't use hot glue in the products I build. That is another of the Skeptics deceptive ruses. Dell
What do you call this then? Is it a different type of glue?

[Theseus]

What do you call this then? Is it a different type of glue?

Maybe the poor sap that bought that thing heard a rattle inside, so took it apart and hot glued everything in place.................

Or, maybe Dell has had another lapse of memory..........

or, perhaps the guy making these do-nothing boxes, per Dell's specifications, used the hot glue, but Dell never opened one up to look inside, so technically HE didn't put the hot glue in there.

I mean, why would Dell have any reason to look inside a product with the Omnitron name on it? The results are the same whether or not the unit is turned on or even functional.

[Carl-NC]

So that's what is driving up the cost of hot-melt glue!

Appears as if someone forgot to hook up those antennae to anything. Maybe they are inductomagically coupled.

- Carl

[Geo]

So that's what is driving up the cost of hot-melt glue!

Appears as if someone forgot to hook up those antennae to anything. Maybe they are inductomagically coupled.

- Carl

I agree, but how work the sound (speaker and AF amplifier)????
At the photo of LDR1 with zoom you will see a red small object on the one antenna. Maybe to be a diode (demodulate the signal)...... but how strong is the signal at the Rx antennas??????
Anyway .... the interesting is one!!!!!! As say people that bought it, the detector (LRL) don't work:lol::lol:

[Max]

What do you call this then? Is it a different type of glue?

Maybe he can melt it just using his dowsing abilities... room temperature melt psycoactive glue! :lol:

Kinda of ectoplasm !? :eek:

He can also make toys using same paranormal activities... :cool:

Kind regards,
Max

[Clondike Clad]

If any of you had any knowledge of LRL as it is pretended, you would know this is nothing new.

In 1980, Wayne Darnell, marketed the first directional locator with concealed swivel rods, that completed an electrical circuit that lit a light, and sounded a buzzer when the unit was tilted slightly and the rods swung to one side, or the other.

Although the builder of this unit appears to be attempting simple Frequency Discrimination, in my experience I find that discrimination is greatly diminished when the broadcast frequency is encompassed in the same housing as the receiving antenna(s).

Needless to say, that in my opinion, that type of electronic monitoring is useless, and is included merely as a deceptive, pretend technology sales gimmick to command more money.

FYI, I don't use hot glue in the products I build. That is another of the Skeptics deceptive ruses. Dell
So you do know electronic parts( so what about the hot glue and that speaker that in one of your whatjamacallit box...A lie a lie again and who is that man it is not you??? why are you using his photo and not your own?
Dell your coat hanger thingie now how do it work again?.
I better stop anf go back to lurking.:nono:

[Qiaozhi]

What do you call this then? Is it a different type of glue?
Uh-oh - selective memory at work again?
Well, I didn't really expect any answer. Just the usual silence...

[Max]

Uh-oh - selective memory at work again?
Well, I didn't really expect any answer. Just the usual silence...

No need of further explainations. It's ectoplasm! :lol:

[Guard]

Geo.
The laser is working goood :lol:

First of all the man who own the buisenes is good man and before 4 years he answer to all my questions for an hour !!! so he get my trast...

I see this machine before 3-4 years.
He ask me to hide a gold coin that he has inside his lab, he get this "detector" and tried to find where i hide the coin.
The first time he found the coin...
The second time i hide the coin walking around to all his lab 300sq meters, but this time he did not find where i hide the coin !!!

My opinion is that the machine is working better from others because had the balbs (very clever) and IF ALL the others remote machines are working then it working too...
I am not sensitive to rods and i dont believe the theory AS HE SAYS (not baried for long time...) AND AS IT IS (find only gold etc.)

The pulse detectors that he manufacture are stable and when i test them (2004) i see that are a beet down from DELTA PULSE... with a coil 40cm, 1liter metallic paint box, 90cm. My Delta pulse with modifications and the same coil find it from 130cm.

The time i go to his lab he has a VLF detector with 40cm coil. I tried and i see that it gets a paint box 1liter from 2 meters. That was good...

That was my experience before 4 years... today I DONT KNOW what are the emprovements hi gets to the newest detectors !!! I thing that he emprove his detectors every day, but for remote sensing i dont beleive that are many things to do :lol:



GUARD

[Dell Winders]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?p=78514#post78514)
What do you call this then? Is it a different type of glue?

Uh-oh - selective memory at work again?
Well, I didn't really expect any answer. Just the usual silence...I have already answered that question. Several times.

Your photo is of a Frequency Generator, built in 1998, 20 years ago. I don't know if Hot Glue is a product of science, to qualify it's use, but perhaps the builder just thought it was the rage of the time. I don't know.

I still owe you an answer as to where I saw the TV doncumentary, where Scientist conducting brain studies said they have found proof that humans do have ESP, on a sub-conscious level.

It was on one, of the two local PBS channels. Although interesting, I didn't consider this to be a spectacular, or amazing discovery so I didn't make note of the name of the program.

Sorry for the delay in answering, but I do have a life outside this forum which has been busy preparing for hurricanes, among other things. Dell

Dell

[Max]

I have already answered that question. Several times.

Your photo is of a Frequency Generator, built in 1998, 20 years ago. I don't know if Hot Glue is a product of science, to qualify it's use, but perhaps the builder just thought it was the rage of the time. I don't know.

I still owe you an answer as to where I saw the TV doncumentary, where Scientist conducting brain studies said they have found proof that humans do have ESP, on a sub-conscious level.

It was on one, of the two local PBS channels. Although interesting, I didn't consider this to be a spectacular, or amazing discovery so I didn't make note of the name of the program.

Sorry for the delay in answering, but I do have a life outside this forum which has been busy preparing for hurricanes, among other things. Dell

Dell

So 1998 is 20 years ago now ? Dell won the Fields Medal... between an hurricane and another...hands down! :rolleyes:

[Dell Winders]

Sorry, that should read 1988. Dell

[Max]

Sorry, that should read 1988. Dell

So no Fields Medal !? :cry: