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New Master
08-16-2008, 07:29 PM
Respected Mr. Carl Morland

We are expressing our gratitude for the making of your web site Geotech.thunting.com. We thing positively about the forum at your site, at witch all of the visitors and members can share their opinion and experience.
Besides all of the comments and critics about the analysis of the LRL devices, and your ‘’check, open, take a photo, show and spit’’ attitude, we are proud to present to all of the sceptics and treasure seekers, a new line of device, that in comparison with the other devices, really works efficiently instead of measuring only gravity.
Our status is a manufacturer of LRL equipment, that’s why we are addressing to you with a few questions:

Is the challenge still open or it has limited time?
Since 2006 there are no registered attempts for the challenge. Where there any competitors or they had been deleted from the site?
Is the challenge open only for the manufactures of the list presented on your site (Mineoro, Kellyco, Dell Winders etc.) or we can also apply for the challenge although we are from the Republic of Macedonia (Europe)?
Is it possible for the target to be made of aluminium (by our choice), with the purpose of presenting the measuring capabilities compared to the quantities of the searched material?We are claiming that:

We are doing this so we can convince you that the LRL really works and the prize is not a priority.
The device is a generator with Lrod antennas for receiving signal line.
We’ll be honoured to have you as a guest in our country.Greetings to all of the forum members.

J_Player
08-16-2008, 08:16 PM
Hi New Master,
To the best of my knowledge, the contest and prize money is still open to anyone in the world who wants to attempt it. An established manufacturer of LRLs has added advantages, in that the test may be performed in your location rather than traveling to a location where Carl specifies. But Carl Moreland is the official source of information on the $25,000 LRL challenge. You can read the details here: http://geotech.thunting.com/cgi-bin/pages/common/index.pl?page=lrl&file=reward.dat

You will see that you must make arrangements with Carl Moreland for the time and place, as well as signing a contract which specifies the terms and binds Carl to pay the prize money if you pass the test. There are several variables that can be written into the contract by mutual agreement, which may or may not permit you to locate aluminum instead of gold or silver. But the answers to these details can be worked out at the time when the contract is written.

I am sure Carl, as well as all the skeptics and LRL proponents are anxious to see a working LRL that can pass his test. Good luck on your quest.

Best wishes,
J_P

Morgan
08-17-2008, 01:43 AM
Respected Mr. Carl Morland



We are expressing our gratitude for the making of your web site Geotech.thunting.com. We thing positively about the forum at your site, at witch all of the visitors and members can share their opinion and experience.
Besides all of the comments and critics about the analysis of the LRL devices, and your ‘’check, open, take a photo, show and spit’’ attitude, we are proud to present to all of the sceptics and treasure seekers, a new line of device, that in comparison with the other devices, really works efficiently instead of measuring only gravity.
Our status is a manufacturer of LRL equipment, that’s why we are addressing to you with a few questions:

Is the challenge still open or it has limited time?
Since 2006 there are no registered attempts for the challenge. Where there any competitors or they had been deleted from the site?
Is the challenge open only for the manufactures of the list presented on your site (Mineoro, Kellyco, Dell Winders etc.) or we can also apply for the challenge although we are from the Republic of Macedonia (Europe)?
Is it possible for the target to be made of aluminium (by our choice), with the purpose of presenting the measuring capabilities compared to the quantities of the searched material?We are claiming that:

We are doing this so we can convince you that the LRL really works and the prize is not a priority.
The device is a generator with Lrod antennas for receiving signal line.
We’ll be honoured to have you as a guest in our country.Greetings to all of the forum members.
Hi

The Lrod generators technology are instruments alredy used many times,its not new technology,and it needs experienced person to achieve good results,its not device for eveybody.
I´m good in finding water with Lrods,but i´m very bad in finding treasures with Lrods,anyway i saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting.
My advice is ,do not enter in any challenge with Lrods,even if they are electronic rods...Auto sugestion will deceive you in any kind of challenge...

Regards

FC247
08-17-2008, 03:12 AM
Hi New Master,

good luck with the challenge.

FC247

Carl-NC
08-18-2008, 07:18 AM
The challenge is still open, but it is unlikely I will be able to visit Macedonia anytime in the near future. Thus far there have only been two interests in the challenge and they both decided to withdraw.

An aluminium target is a curious choice; is this designed as an aluminium detector? Do you have any published information on your locator?

- Carl

Esteban
08-18-2008, 02:42 PM
Why aluminium target? Maybe because they can achieve gold or silver in a X size. If they can't achieve great quantity of gold for the proof, so can make an extended piece of gold (foil) with only few grams.

Regards

Esteban

New Master
08-24-2008, 08:55 PM
To J Player and FC 247

Thank you for your support. We are very greatfull...

New Master
08-24-2008, 09:05 PM
To geotech guru MORGAN


The equipment that we are going to present on this test in the letter we gave, is presented like generator + L antenas.
We are emphasizeing this just to be pleased the request that Mr. Carl Morland gave.

This is a LRL device , not some other type of detector.

That means is not a word about generator antenas , it is about standard L antenas without ac or dc power in it and in combination of a perfect type of generator.

New Master
08-24-2008, 09:14 PM
To Mr. Esteban


We just asked if is allow alluminium target. It was only a question...

We can calibrate our equipment to searching any material .

( eg. glassy bottle of French champagne from l world war ? )

Morgan
08-25-2008, 01:09 AM
To Mr. Esteban


We just asked if is allow alluminium target. It was only a question...

We can calibrate our equipment to searching any material .

( eg. glassy bottle of French champagne from l world war ? )
Hi New Master

Can you tell me the distance you can find one single gold coin with your LRL,and if it works the same with fresh buried metals?

Regards

New Master
08-31-2008, 09:14 PM
Hi Morgan,

Any target , coin, ring, or any deposite who has his our MNR ( molecular nuclear resonance) frequency between 4 Khz and 10 Khz the device can locate it on distance of 250 meters.

The searech is circular, equal in every directions , that means 360 *.That is nearly 800m sqr.

Any target who has MNR in the given range the device can locate it no meter if is buried long ago or now. The biger problem is to locate old target made from bronza like roman figures or coins. After a longer period (2000 years) allthaugh the have in there selfs Cu , they lose there conductivity, and that makes the search dificult.

This performances are all put on the device whit wich we wont to participate on this challenge.

The better model than this has a range 2.5 Km distance to the target .

So , the distance is not a problem , becouse our devices DONT HAVE HARMONICS
( Mr. Dell Winters knows what i'm talking about.) :
- there is only one clear signal line...
- NO MORE hot roks...

More infomations will be given soon on our website.

Regards

New Master
08-31-2008, 09:22 PM
Respected Mr.Carl Morland

About your request , we inform you that in this moment , our website is under construction whith one more language support.

Realy soon you will be inform about the site.

regards
New Master

Morgan
08-31-2008, 10:45 PM
Hi Morgan,

Any target , coin, ring, or any deposite who has his our MNR ( molecular nuclear resonance) frequency between 4 Khz and 10 Khz the device can locate it on distance of 250 meters.

The searech is circular, equal in every directions , that means 360 *.That is nearly 800m sqr.

Any target who has MNR in the given range the device can locate it no meter if is buried long ago or now. The biger problem is to locate old target made from bronza like roman figures or coins. After a longer period (2000 years) allthaugh the have in there selfs Cu , they lose there conductivity, and that makes the search dificult.

This performances are all put on the device whit wich we wont to participate on this challenge.

The better model than this has a range 2.5 Km distance to the target .

So , the distance is not a problem , becouse our devices DONT HAVE HARMONICS
( Mr. Dell Winters knows what i'm talking about.) :
- there is only one clear signal line...
- NO MORE hot roks...

More infomations will be given soon on our website.

Regards
Hi new Master

This new sistem is very interessant as LRL,if it works as you explain i congratulate you and your TH team.

Regards

putrechigi
10-21-2008, 06:53 PM
Hi Morgan,

Any target , coin, ring, or any deposite who has his our MNR ( molecular nuclear resonance) frequency between 4 Khz and 10 Khz the device can locate it on distance of 250 meters.

The searech is circular, equal in every directions , that means 360 *.That is nearly 800m sqr.

Any target who has MNR in the given range the device can locate it no meter if is buried long ago or now. The biger problem is to locate old target made from bronza like roman figures or coins. After a longer period (2000 years) allthaugh the have in there selfs Cu , they lose there conductivity, and that makes the search dificult.

This performances are all put on the device whit wich we wont to participate on this challenge.

The better model than this has a range 2.5 Km distance to the target .

So , the distance is not a problem , becouse our devices DONT HAVE HARMONICS
( Mr. Dell Winters knows what i'm talking about.) :
- there is only one clear signal line...
- NO MORE hot roks...

More infomations will be given soon on our website.

Regards

someone knows the website thanks

best reguards

modaljar
11-27-2008, 03:06 PM
To Mr. Esteban


We just asked if is allow alluminium target. It was only a question...

We can calibrate our equipment to searching any material .

( eg. glassy bottle of French champagne from l world war ? )

I wish if you make additional changes so that a bottle of Russian Vodka can also be detected or maybe scotch for those hard drinkers.:)

I just noticed that your site not set yet.

gwzd
11-27-2008, 10:07 PM
I just noticed that your site not set yet.

ever wonder why?

regards,

sweatofglory
12-01-2008, 12:18 AM
Hi New master
congratulations for accepting carl's challenge. if your LRL really works, then a lot of treasure hunters are eager to own that fantastic machine!:D

Qiaozhi
12-01-2008, 11:02 AM
Hi New master
congratulations for accepting carl's challenge. if your LRL really works, then a lot of treasure hunters are eager to own that fantastic machine!:D
Don't hold your breath! ;)

humhum
01-05-2009, 09:03 PM
The Facts About NMR

A common claim with MFD proponents is that "all elements have a natural frequency" and will either resonate with other like elements, or can be made to resonate with a properly tuned signal generator. MFD proponents often point to the fact that all elements have a property called "nuclear magnetic resonance" and, therefore, the concept of resonance is entirely scientific.
Yes, it is true that all elements have an NMR frequency. You can go to WebElements and click on an element, then click the NMR link to the left side. For gold, you will find that the NMR frequency is 1.754000MHz, and that this entry includes the statement "relative to 1H = 100 (MHz)". What does this mean?
It turns out the NMR frequency for any given element is dependent on the static magnetic field the element is exposed to. For gold, the magnetic field that produces an NMR frequency of 1.754MHz is the same field that produces an NMR frequency of 100MHz for hydrogen.
What is this field? With a little effort, you will find the field strength to be roughly 2.35 Teslas. So for hydrogen, 2.35T yields an NMR frequency of 100MHz. 4.7T will result in an NMR frequency of 200MHz. In other words, the NMR frequency is proportional to the magnetic field.
What about the Earth's natural magnetic field? This varies from place-to-place, but 50 microTeslas (uT) is a fair average strength. So the magnetic field strength of 2.35T is a whopping 47,000 times stronger than the Earth's field. Working the other way, we can find that the NMR frequency of hydrogen exposed to the Earth's field is a mere 2.13kHz. And guess what? That's exactly the frequency we get from a proton precession magnetometer! Most PPM's use hydrogen-rich water as the precession medium, and it is the hydrogen that is doing the precessing. Variations in the Earth's field due to iron targets change the precession frequency, exactly because the NMR frequency varies with field strength.
So gold has an NMR frequency of 1.754MHz at 2.35T, which means at 50uT it will have an NMR frequency of only 37 Hz or so. So if any MFD were being true to the NMR property, it would use 37Hz for gold. Not 5kHz. Now, some MFD manufacturers talk about resonating elements at a harmonic (or, sometimes, a "sub-harmonic") frequency. Although 5kHz is roughly the 135th harmonic of 37Hz, it is far, far less efficient to try to resonate something at a harmonic rather than the fundamental. Anyone who has used 3rd overtone crystals is aware of this, and claiming resonance at the 135th harmonic is just plain absurd.
So now that we know what the real frequency of resonance should be, we can proceed with a gold detector, right? Not so fast. Let's go back to the proton mag. How does a PPM detect the precession frequency of water? Well, typically a small bottle of water is placed INSIDE a fairly hefty coil. The coil serves two purposes. First, water just sitting around has its molecules all randomly oriented, so that even if they were "resonating", there would be no net signal due to an overall cancelation of all the little signals. So the coil is hit with a large transient current, which generates a large magnetic field, which serves to align at least some of the water molecules. Then, with the transient field removed, the coil becomes a receiver to detect the very, very weak precession signal from the water.
So in order to utilize NMR, we need to "ping" the target to get it to precess, much like hitting a bell with a clapper. Then, we need a way to detect the precession signal, which is incredibly weak. With PPM, both of these are only accomplished when the water is INSIDE the coil. The same is true with hospital MRI machines... the patient is slid INSIDE a humongous coil.
In the end, the concept of trying to remotely resonate buried targets is just bogus. It is like trying to boil water with a microwave oven, by placing the water 100 meters from the oven, and then running the oven on a 9-volt battery. Ain't gonna happen.
- Carl

But for 0,5T = 100Amper current or For 1,5T Need (=) 300 Amper electrical current.

Roughwater
07-17-2009, 03:24 AM
I think Carls money will be safe for a long, long time.

WM6
07-17-2009, 11:27 AM
Hi

I´m good in finding water with Lrods,but i´m very bad in finding treasures with Lrods,anyway i saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting.


There are simple explanation why water yes and tresures not.

By underground water there are diferent indicator on vegetation over such place. You do not need rod or such LRLs to find underground water but precise, observant and inventive observers of vegetation. Most people are largely superficial and overlook this tiny but significant details. Some people can observing thous details subconsciously, no matter: with or without LRL. Other can be trained to find water without LRL on vegetation indicators based.

LRL is in these cases, only a device to help concentrate on the envirovement markers detecting, nothing else.

By underground treasures there are in 99% cases no such significant indicator on surface vegetation so you are "very bad in finding treasures".

Stories like this that you "saw people with experience using sucessfully the rods in treasure hunting" are only fairy tale needed to LRL beliver survival.

sweatofglory
07-19-2009, 04:41 PM
I think Carls money will be safe for a long, long time.

yes safe as stealth bomber:lol::lol::lol:

ivconic
09-03-2009, 07:25 AM
The challenge is still open, but it is unlikely I will be able to visit Macedonia anytime in the near future. Thus far there have only been two interests in the challenge and they both decided to withdraw.

An aluminium target is a curious choice; is this designed as an aluminium detector? Do you have any published information on your locator?

- Carl

:lol::lol::lol:
Why not? On your trip to Macedonia you can visit me also, here in Serbia (i would be glad to meet you). It is close....200km.
So...i can demonstrate than to you TGSL detection of single coin at ...... 20cm in soil!!! Wow! :lol::lol::lol: Real stuff....not some cosmic stuff like those "nmr" rods or whatever!
:lol::lol::lol:
We can put some challenge also on TGSL performances! I offer box of beer and $5! Let me hear your offer now! Do you dare!?
:lol::lol::lol:

Geo
10-02-2009, 01:40 PM
:lol::lol::lol:
Why not? On your trip to Macedonia you can visit me also, here in Serbia (i would be glad to meet you). It is close....200km.
So...i can demonstrate than to you TGSL detection of single coin at ...... 20cm in soil!!! Wow! :lol::lol::lol: Real stuff....not some cosmic stuff like those "nmr" rods or whatever!
:lol::lol::lol:
We can put some challenge also on TGSL performances! I offer box of beer and $5! Let me hear your offer now! Do you dare!?
:lol::lol::lol:


Other 200 Km and Carl is at Greece :lol::lol:
I will teach him how to locate copper and silver objects with Lrods ( no generator) :lol::lol:.
But you Ivica can't learn anything about Lrods because you don't believe at this :lol::lol::lol:

ozanmelih
11-11-2009, 01:13 PM
What id the new masters home page adress please?

g-sani
11-27-2009, 06:22 PM
I will believe that an LRL using L rods does the job only if it works in anybodys hands.Thats very very difficult.
Only then we can say that the LRL is working.Good dowsers are making money selling LRLs.Some of them admit to their customers that they have to practice dowsing if they buy their LRL.Well a few of them end up dowsing succesfully while using the LRL they bought.
Why? Well because they have a talent they didn't know and it just came up.
Of course some of them beleive that it is the LRL that does the job.
Ussually the ones that succed is the ones that beleived that they bought a good working LRL.This is only because a Dowser has first to really beleive that he can do it and only then it can happen.
Sorry but I have to say it again.
THE BEST LRL AROUND IS NO OTHER THAN HUMAN BEING AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WHITH HIM.
So in the hands of a good dowser(yes there are a few around no matter what you say) any frequency generator that uses L rods is working.
I beleive Geo Knows by now that dowsing exists.I think nobody can convince him different neither myself.:):):)
It is a great advantage for a Treasure Hunter to know if dowsing exists.
And when I am saying "to know" I am talking about personal experience or "see it whith your eyes hapening" experience.
Jesus Christ said once to his students: Don't be surprised whith what I am doing because you can do more than me but you have to beleive first.
So beleive you can do it or in other words beleive in yourself.

WM6
01-11-2010, 01:07 PM
So beleive you can do it or in other words beleive in yourself.



Hi g-sani

there are many religions in this world and all his belivers swear that only his religion is correct. All believers cannot be correct for sure.

One can believe that he knows to fly and therefore jump of 11 floor to fly. It can be dangerous religion and leaves no after-fly possibility of persuading on Forums about the possibility of flying without wings.

If you believe that you can dowsing it is not so dangerous religion and you have after-dowsing possiblities to persuating other believers and sceptic about dowsing existence.

Others do not need to believe in his dowsing abilities to believe in herself. Most sceptic do so, but are still open to any scientific evidence about dowsing reality.

g-sani
01-11-2010, 03:58 PM
Hi g-sani

there are many religions in this world and all his belivers swear that only his religion is correct. All believers cannot be correct for sure.

One can believe that he knows to fly and therefore jump of 11 floor to fly. It can be dangerous religion and leaves no after-fly possibility of persuading on Forums about the possibility of flying without wings.

If you believe that you can dowsing it is not so dangerous religion and you have after-dowsing possiblities to persuating other believers and sceptic about dowsing existence.

Others do not need to believe in his dowsing abilities to believe in herself. Most sceptic do so, but are still open to any scientific evidence about dowsing reality.

If I have to believe that I have wings and I can fly then I might be unstable and I am probably in need of medical treatment.
To believe that I can fly and to look for a way to do it that is completely different.
Even if you think you can fly you can always try by taking off from the ground.
You don't need to be Einstein to know that this is better instead of jumping from the 11th floor.
But I will tell you something else WM6.
Dowsing is as old as a few thousand years and always there were skeptics arround and then what?
Dowsing still exists now and that says that scientific evidence is not always neccesary to keep something going on for centuries.
Do not forget that science take many things as theorem and don't prove them at all.You know why?
Because then they would be able to explain everything even humanitys birth.
Well probably they should take dowsing as a theorem as well.:)

WM6
01-13-2010, 03:18 PM
I

Dowsing is as old as a few thousand years and always there were skeptics arround and then what?
Dowsing still exists now and that says that scientific evidence is not always neccesary to keep something going on for centuries.

.:)

Dowsing draw its roots from different sort of ancient pagan religions in which exist as ritual procedure.

Yes it is old, very old, but efective only at the psychological level not on the physical plane (read explanation in post #21 how water dowsing works).

Today, all sort of dowsing are only small religions available to those who need such religion to alleviate the painful reality (reality that no one can detect gold from 100m in soil).

Problem of believers is that they can not accept reality, but if you can not accept reality, you can not even be in progress, because you only constantly spinning in a circle of unproductive illusions and dreaming.

So believers illusions and dreams become reality, but that virtual world can not live with a reality and can only be what they are: religion.

If you think that the age of some faith exist as a proof of its accuracy, then you'll have to first answer the question of which religion is right, because they deny each other and each independently maintains herself as the only law.

g-sani
01-13-2010, 04:44 PM
Dowsing draw its roots from different sort of ancient pagan religions in which exist as ritual procedure.

Yes it is old, very old, but efective only at the psychological level not on the physical plane (read explanation in post #21 how water dowsing works).

Today, all sort of dowsing are only small religions available to those who need such religion to alleviate the painful reality (reality that no one can detect gold from 100m in soil).

Problem of believers is that they can not accept reality, but if you can not accept reality, you can not even be in progress, because you only constantly spinning in a circle of unproductive illusions and dreaming.

So believers illusions and dreams become reality, but that virtual world can not live with a reality and can only be what they are: religion.

If you think that the age of some faith exist as a proof of its accuracy, then you'll have to first answer the question of which religion is right, because they deny each other and each independently maintains herself as the only law.

Listen WM6, may be you were not lucky until now to see somebody that can dowse for gold and I know very well how rare is to find an accomplished dowser that he can do it.
You have to change attitude to have this possibility open for the future.And I mean to see a real dowser going for gold so revealling himself to your skeptic mind.
To admit WM6 that you can dowse for gold it is as dangerous as when you are walking in a crowdy street carrying a see through bag full of money.
Oh... yes my friend we found gold many times you believe it or not.
The only reallity that you can not accept WM6 is that you can not do it when there is somebody else that he can.
You don't know the way to do it my friend and nobody is going to show you whith this attitude of yours when it comes to Dowsing.
Of course there are secrets and it is very difficult to learn them.
When you are infront of a real dowser believe me that he knows your attitude and he can also tell if you have this small extra thing that somebody needs to became a good dowser.
When you can dowse for gold successfully then you enhance many other abillities of yourself.
Everybody can do it but some are really better from the day they have borned.
Well I understand that when you talk about dowsers you are talking only about people that advertise themselves that they are.
I used to think like that myself in the past and I admit it.
Now the technology improved dear WM6 and gold dowsing is happening everytime out.
As time passes by is becoming better and better and yes you know now that the gold is there before you dig it.
You don't believe it WM6?
Sorry I did my best.

Many regards
g-sani

WM6
01-13-2010, 05:41 PM
Listen WM6, may be you were not lucky until now to see somebody that can dowse for gold and I know very well how rare is to find an accomplished dowser that he can do it.
You have to change attitude to have this possibility open for the future.And I mean to see a real dowser going for gold so revealling himself to your skeptic mind.
To admit WM6 that you can dowse for gold it is as dangerous as when you are walking in a crowdy street carrying a see through bag full of money.
Oh... yes my friend we found gold many times you believe it or not.
The only reallity that you can not accept WM6 is that you can not do it when there is somebody else that he can.
You don't know the way to do it my friend and nobody is going to show you whith this attitude of yours when it comes to Dowsing.
Of course there are secrets and it is very difficult to learn them.
When you are infront of a real dowser believe me that he knows your attitude and he can also tell if you have this small extra thing that somebody needs to became a good dowser.
When you can dowse for gold successfully then you enhance many other abillities of yourself.
Everybody can do it but some are really better from the day they have borned.
Well I understand that when you talk about dowsers you are talking only about people that advertise themselves that they are.
I used to think like that myself in the past and I admit it.
Now the technology improved dear WM6 and gold dowsing is happening everytime out.
As time passes by is becoming better and better and yes you know now that the gold is there before you dig it.
You don't believe it WM6?
Sorry I did my best.

Many regards
g-sani

Excellent g-sani.

I wonder if it is true that you are looking for a job in the advertising department of company mineoro? I am sure that you are the right person.

g-sani
01-13-2010, 06:53 PM
Dear WM6 may be you believe in things exactly the same way as anybody else is thinking in our hobby.Well not exactly, but at least at no less than 98% of Treasure Hunters.
Their profile?
They believe that if you can dowse for gold you are rich allready > false
They believe that treasure is everywhere > false
They believe that the places they know are all treasure places > false
They believe that if you have a working LRL then you become rich straight away > false
They believe things that they cannot do nobody else can do > false
They believe that nobody else knows more than them > false
etc.etc.etc......

Sorry WM6 I don't do Treasure Hunting the way you do it.
Up to now I was really happy and I thought that my dreams were fullfilled the first time I found treasure from a distance.
But since then all changed.Not moneywise but in the way I was looking for Treasure.
Treasure for me WM6 is also when trekking in Greek mountains plus fishing trout & salmon in Greek rivers and lakes.
I don't advertise anybody and this includes myself.
But the truth is that something that started as a hobby turned out to be profitable as well.;)

WM6
01-13-2010, 07:12 PM
Dear WM6 may be you believe in things exactly the same way as anybody else is thinking in our hobby.Well not exactly, but at least at no less than 98% of Treasure Hunters.
Their profile?
They believe that if you can dowse for gold you are rich allready > false
They believe that treasure is everywhere > false
They believe that the places they know are all treasure places > false
They believe that if you have a working LRL then you become rich straight away > false
They believe things that they cannot do nobody else can do > false
They believe that nobody else knows more than them > false
etc.etc.etc......

Sorry WM6 I don't do Treasure Hunting the way you do it.
Up to now I was really happy and I thought that my dreams were fullfilled the first time I found treasure from a distance.
But since then all changed.Not moneywise but in the way I was looking for Treasure.
Treasure for me WM6 is also when trekking in Greek mountains plus fishing trout & salmon in Greek rivers and lakes.
I don't advertise anybody and this includes myself.
But the truth is that something that started as a hobby turned out to be profitable as well.;)

Very well g-sani, again.

You are last lost romantic.

What if your "false" is > false?

g-sani
01-13-2010, 07:35 PM
Very well g-sani, again.

You are last lost romantic.

What if your "false" is > false?

In a way I cannot say you are wrong WM6.
Somebody must see only whith his own eyes to convince himself.
I wish you to be lucky and see it in yourself as well.

J_Player
01-13-2010, 08:11 PM
...Treasure for me WM6 is also when trekking in Greek mountains plus fishing trout & salmon in Greek rivers and lakes.
I don't advertise anybody and this includes myself.
But the truth is that something that started as a hobby turned out to be profitable as well.;)Hi g-sani,
Hiking and fishing is also one of my favorite treasures when I go to the to the mountains for treasure hunting. I am a recreational treasure hunter, and I only look for treasure as a hobby. I think if there were no lakes and streams for fishing, then I would lose interest in these places. But you are lucky that your hobby is also profitable. :)

Best wishes,
J_P

g-sani
01-13-2010, 08:39 PM
Hi g-sani,
Hiking and fishing is also one of my favorite treasures when I go to the to the mountains for treasure hunting. I am a recreational treasure hunter, and I only look for treasure as a hobby. I think if there were no lakes and streams for fishing, then I would lose interest in these places. But you are lucky that your hobby is also profitable. :)

Best wishes,
J_P

I see some nice places for fishing arround California through internet J_P.
I wish States was not that far from Greece so I could fish there as well.
I believe you cannot choose where to go, places are endless.
Over here rivers are smaller and fish are much less(especially trout) but when it comes to goldy treasures we are better off over here for sure.
I was adicted once watching youtube's videos about fishing salmon in States or Canada.Wonderfull views that make you dream if you like this kind of fishing.

Regards, g-sani

J_Player
01-13-2010, 09:00 PM
I see some nice places for fishing arround California through internet J_P.
I wish States was not that far from Greece so I could fish there as well.
I believe you cannot choose where to go.
Over here rivers are smaller and fish are much less(especially trout) but when it comes to goldy treasures we are better off over here for sure.
I was adicted once watching youtube's videos about fishing salmon in States or Canada.Wonderfull views that make you dream if you like this kind of fishing.

Regards, g-saniHi g-sani,
You are right. California has many beautiful forests with streams and lakes and excellent trout fishing. There are no gold treasures left from ancient civilizations. But we have many gold districts that produced nuggets and other placer gold as well as gold mines. In the Sierra Nevada mountain range, there are streams and lakes in the same places where gold was found. Even today, nugget hunters find gold that washes into the rivers after the spring rains. This makes for some very nice nugget hunting if you plan a camping trip in the forests. But the best part of these trips is to come back to your camp when you are tired of nugget hunting, and catch some trout for dinner. Then you can spend your hours in the night telling true treasure hunting stories at the campfire. :)

Best wishes,
J_P

g-sani
01-13-2010, 09:16 PM
Hi g-sani,
You are right. California has many beautiful forests with streams and lakes and excellent trout fishing. There are no gold treasures left from ancient civilizations. But we have many gold districts that produced nuggets and other placer gold as well as gold mines. In the Sierra Nevada mountain range, there are streams and lakes in the same places where gold was found. Even today, nugget hunters find gold that washes into the rivers after the spring rains. This makes for some very nice nugget hunting if you plan a camping trip in the forests. But the best part of these trips is to come back to your camp when you are tired of nugget hunting, and catch some trout for dinner. Then you can spend your hours in the night telling true treasure hunting stories at the campfire. :)

Best wishes,
J_P

Come on J_P you make me dreaming again.
Sounds like paradise my friend.Fishing and goldfishing together allday long.
Perfect!

J_Player
01-14-2010, 03:45 AM
Come on J_P you make me dreaming again.
Sounds like paradise my friend.Fishing and goldfishing together allday long.
Perfect!Exactly!

The catching is not always perfect, but the fishing is always good. :lol:
Take a look here to see it is not a dream... it is real!
http://www.grahamowengallery.com/fishing/Fishing.html


Best wishes,
J_P

epitopios
02-05-2010, 09:44 PM
Exactly!

The catching is not always perfect, but the fishing is always good. :lol:
Take a look here to see it is not a dream... it is real!
http://www.grahamowengallery.com/fishing/Fishing.html


Best wishes,
J_P

before fishing , just visit www.cabelas.com
they have everything
and g-sani they can send you anything you want
για να είσαι ετοιμοπόλεμος !!! :cool:
friendly , epitopios

g-sani
02-07-2010, 01:38 AM
before fishing , just visit www.cabelas.com (http://www.cabelas.com/)
they have everything
and g-sani they can send you anything you want
για να είσαι ετοιμοπόλεμος !!! :cool:
friendly , epitopios

Thanks for the reference epitopios.I have ordered from them plus from BassPro a couple of times.
You see there are a few things you could never buy in Greece as wading shoes whith felt soles.Nets for trouts are in limited sizes and quallities as well.
I borned by the side of a river and trout fishing is inside my blood.
J_P, I consider you as a very lucky person having all these nice places arround you.
You must dedicate your next fishing day to me as a good fellow fisherman my friend.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

kostas87
04-16-2011, 07:22 PM
Hello! I have constructed a while ago
This antenna is very easy to construct and it works!
simply just a dowsing rod antenna .. .!!!!
Aluminium is very simple to see it initially .. !!
to change something change in another metal ....!!!!!
theory is the exploitation is of the emissions of land ...!!!!
Thank you!

g-sani
04-16-2011, 10:13 PM
Sorry, can you explain in some more words what you are trying to say Kostas87?

kostas87
04-17-2011, 10:50 AM
HI G-SANI!!
Sorry for the bad english ..!
the matter concerns a lrl Antenna and I have managed to construct and work just like Mr. NEW MASTERS ..!!!

without the help of some generator!
the only difference is the lrl Mr MASTERS mine that fails to lock and copper target with a change that I have to do ..!!!

My idea was using the generator to earth nature ..!!!!
and I missed a good antenna made ​​to do the discrimination of diamagnetic line from the ferromagnetic lines.!

g-sani
04-17-2011, 01:20 PM
Yes, but how do you know what Mr New Master uses?
I thought he said that he uses an MFD whith plain "L rods" afterwards.
Anyway, can you show us your LRL antenna Kosta?

kostas87
04-18-2011, 09:36 AM
hi!
so will wait for the weather gets better to upload a video ...!!!

morsuvari
03-20-2012, 11:49 PM
[QUOTE=ozanmelih;100966]What id the new masters home page adress please?[/QUOT
may be minerdetector.com

morsuvari
03-21-2012, 12:11 AM
L rods work without any power and discriming means that
what its taking in your righthand working with lrod,lrods start to find like it.

landman
11-02-2024, 01:07 PM
Hi g-sani

there are many religions in this world and all his belivers swear that only his religion is correct. All believers cannot be correct for sure.

One can believe that he knows to fly and therefore jump of 11 floor to fly. It can be dangerous religion and leaves no after-fly possibility of persuading on Forums about the possibility of flying without wings.

If you believe that you can dowsing it is not so dangerous religion and you have after-dowsing possiblities to persuating other believers and sceptic about dowsing existence.

Others do not need to believe in his dowsing abilities to believe in herself. Most sceptic do so, but are still open to any scientific evidence about dowsing reality.

Seventh-Day Adventism

Mike(Mont)
11-02-2024, 01:42 PM
A bent coat hanger will work if you know how. The LRL's that cost $5000+ will not work if you don't know how to use the rod(s). The more bells and whistles the locator has, the more difficult it will be to learn.

Mike(Mont)
11-04-2024, 02:01 PM
There are a few locators that don't require a swiveling L-rod. They are expensive and haven't heard any good reports. I have an electronic receiver I hooked up to on LRLMANM EFNMR2015 and it seems to work but I haven't found anything yet. Been plagued with skin cancer and had over 60 surgeries in the past three years alone. I got a rare cancer they couldn't get rid of it, but hopefully this third surgery will be the last. I know, wishful thinking. Actually I have not had this latest configuration on in the field yet so I don't know for sure. And there is something about detecting a signal line with L-rods, it just makes this physical connection with the target field. I'm pretty much healed up right now--no open wounds--but I have developed PTSD afer uncountable number of procedures the doctors have performed on me. Over one-thousand hits with the liquid nitrogen alone. Probably over one-hundred surgeries and scrapings (they use a razor blade ans shave it off down to the raw skin. I've had the most terrible red-light treatments, and several skin peels where they use a chemotherapy cream for a month. All these treatments and they mostly make things worse, not better. Now they want more treatments and radiation. I've already had 80 radiation treatments and I wonder how long before that catches up to me. Other than that, I'm fine except for bad joints and a feeble mind. LOL I'm okay and I ain't giving up.

Mike(Mont)
11-04-2024, 04:34 PM
When I say physical connection, I mean being right there at the target vs. the electronic receiver which more from a distance. L-rods have NEVER been easy for me. It's one thing to find a planted/hidden target in your yard, but out in the field the "yard" is many square km. Not so easy all-of-a-sudden. My very limited time with an electronic receiver out in the field is similar results--it's not like shooting ducks in a barrel. But on the other side, there can be less distrubance from trash or electronic devices (which mostly are not much of a concern...until it happens to you. LOL) BTW, I suspect most people are just not sensitive enough to use L-rods. It's really nothing to do with arm muscle strength as long as you can hold up the rods, but people with stronger ams usually can hold the rods more stable without much effort. So yes, it is nice to be able to hold the rods very stable without the "white knuckle" death grip. Years ago I recall someone saying "like holding a bird in your hands".