MINEORO LRL FOR SALE (banana price)

[Morgan]

I have friends who have used MINEORO LRL models for sale.
Prices 100,500 and 1000 EURO.
No waranty !

[Morgan]

I have friends who have used MINEORO LRL models for sale.
Prices 100,500 and 1000 EURO.
No waranty !
PDC210
DC2006
DC2008
FG79
T/B 08MI
IGD Rods

And other used devices at low prices...

[detectoman]

note; they only work in brasil
can you go live to brasil?
haha is joke!

[Morgan]

PDC210
DC2006
DC2008
FG79
T/B 08MI
IGD Rods

And other used devices at low prices...
5974

5975

5976

[Carl-NC]

1. What's in the carry case?
2. What's in the bag?
3. What are the prices on each item?

[ivconic]

1. What's in the carry case?
2. What's in the bag?
3. What are the prices on each item?


1. Wild cat..
2. Mad racoon..
3. 100,500...1000 (overpriced anyway..)

:lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, i couldn't resist not to say something on this!:lol:

[olympios]

The above tools should go together with these (image, below). These are guaranteed to find the treasure if... it is there!!! They are slightely used but I will sell them a lot cheaper than $500.
They are made in the USA.

[Max]

I have friends who have used MINEORO LRL models for sale.
Prices 100,500 and 1000 EURO.
No waranty !

Hi,
don't know the quotes for bananas at your place... but I think the fruit there probably costs so much... it's inflation ? :lol: 1000 eur for a banana ?

Sure not in banana-republics... there they launch bananas at you... for some cents... :lol: That's why Dole , Chiquita and Del Monte like that republics so much... :razz:

I suggest you a new price: 1eur per Kg... real bargain! :D

Kind regards,
Max

[michael]

Hi,
Olympios, seems be made of appropriate materials particularly handles,:D but can't go down more than 1 meter with these stuffs.

;) it needs smaller a shovel + small one-head heavy pick + a good bucket + good rope + sheave then can progress near earth core.:lol:

[Max]

Hi,
Olympios, seems be made of appropriate materials particularly handles,:D but can't go down more than 1 meter with these stuffs.;) it needs smaller shovel and pick(one-head). Especially pick be short but heavy + a good bucket + good rope + sheave then can go up to earth core.:lol:

yes... but then ? Will you find the STUFF ? :lol:

[Fred]

Possibly the core of earth is made of gold and big diamond.This is why LRL´s beeps everywhere :lol:

[Max]

Possibly the core of earth is made of gold and big diamond.This is why LRL´s beeps everywhere :lol:

Uhm... melt iron I see more probable... with nickel and other good stuff to make coins! :lol:

About diamond... I read in am Arthur C. Clarke book... they are really big inside big planets dense atmosphere... like Jupiter "clouds"... something big like a BUS! :D

I'm sure Hung detect them with his modded rangertell from Brazil... :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[olympios]

Hi,
Olympios, seems be made of appropriate materials particularly handles,:D but can't go down more than 1 meter with these stuffs.
.......

Lol, like you say, my equipment will go at least 1 meter. Do LRLs go that far?

[olympios]

.........
About diamond... I read in am Arthur C. Clarke book... they are really big inside big planets dense atmosphere... like Jupiter "clouds"... something big like a BUS! :D

I'm sure Hung detect them with his modded rangertell from Brazil... :lol:

Kind regards,
Max
I hope, Hung won't detect them. If he brings on Earth, a diamond as big as a bus, can you imagine what the prices of diamonds are gonna be? A lot less than... bananas, lol.

[Morgan]

Hi,
don't know the quotes for bananas at your place... but I think the fruit there probably costs so much... it's inflation ? :lol: 1000 eur for a banana ?

Sure not in banana-republics... there they launch bananas at you... for some cents... :lol: That's why Dole , Chiquita and Del Monte like that republics so much... :razz:

I suggest you a new price: 1eur per Kg... real bargain! :D

Kind regards,
Max
I agree,it will be 1E Kg :(

[Morgan]

I agree,it will be 1E Kg :(
The saxon-x1 detector is much better than some crap here in the forum.
Tests with buried metals :

2Euro = 45 cm
1Kg coins = 90 cm

Max. sens. with big metal dor = 4,50 m

Discrimination not perfect but 90% of iron rejection.

[Morgan]

I agree,it will be 1E Kg :(
1 Euro Kg,i sell to you this box of my 08MI,and you can put some bananas inside,and go to Chiquita Banana Republik :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

[Max]

The saxon-x1 detector is much better than some crap here in the forum.
Tests with buried metals :

2Euro = 45 cm
1Kg coins = 90 cm

Max. sens. with big metal dor = 4,50 m

Discrimination not perfect but 90% of iron rejection.

Hi,
the 2eur at 45cm (on air) is very good, few can really do in usable conditions also on soil. The problem is that is one of the most expensive MDs around... and I don't like bad iron disc... even 90% is not good for me...I have some trashy but interesting places!

I say that cause in a real field I seach 30-40% of times there are never just iron junks... but also steel today is frequent and if MD detects iron 10% times... will detect steel very easy , that's no good to me cause I will waste lot of time in that trashy places.
There I will use something less detection but perfect iron disc and good enough, though partial steel disc.

Kind regards,
Max

[michael]

Hi.yes... but then ? Will you find the STUFF ? :lol:
Oh, for me and my team not necessary go down so much, totally 8-10 meters suffices.;) now we are in half-way.:D
Lol, like you say, my equipment will go at least 1 meter. Do LRLs go that far? yes, yes and yes,:cool: it depends on what kind.
as near as I have experienced and seen by this time; those types which work in balance-imbalance attraction (L shapes antennas)like most of MFDs or colt-types (e.g. Thomas 301 or Gravitator ) work.
I've no doubt cos have seen with my own eyes and no one can change my mind (as Ivconic told in a thread).:)
but problem here is for people who cannot do it then deny it. I'm aware of some treasures that were found by these simple rods at depths such as 2m, 5-6m and even 11m. but surely for digging they have used other tools I listed above.:D:D
honestly to god with acoustic LRLs i.e. PD types like mineoro-FG80 or other types personally saw nothing by this time. I can't lie. the fact was these for me by this time, rest is up to you.:rolleyes:

[Dell Winders]

Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell

[Morgan]

Hi,
the 2eur at 45cm (on air) is very good, few can really do in usable conditions also on soil. The problem is that is one of the most expensive MDs around... and I don't like bad iron disc... even 90% is not good for me...I have some trashy but interesting places!

I say that cause in a real field I seach 30-40% of times there are never just iron junks... but also steel today is frequent and if MD detects iron 10% times... will detect steel very easy , that's no good to me cause I will waste lot of time in that trashy places.
There I will use something less detection but perfect iron disc and good enough, though partial steel disc.

Kind regards,
Max
This is underground,not air tests...

[Morgan]

:|Hi.
Oh, for me and my team not necessary go down so much, totally 8-10 meters suffices.;) now we are in half-way.:D
yes, yes and yes,:cool: it depends on what kind.
as near as I have experienced and seen by this time; those types which work in balance-imbalance attraction (L shapes antennas)like most of MFDs or colt-types (e.g. Thomas 301 or Gravitator ) work.
I've no doubt cos have seen with my own eyes and no one can change my mind (as Ivconic told in a thread).:)
but problem here is for people who cannot do it then deny it. I'm aware of some treasures that were found by these simple rods at depths such as 2m, 5-6m and even 11m. but surely for digging they have used other tools I listed above.:D:D
honestly to god with acoustic LRLs i.e. PD types like mineoro-FG80 or other types personally saw nothing by this time. I can't lie. the fact was these for me by this time, rest is up to you.:rolleyes:
Hi Michael

The fact that you saw some results with MDF dowsing rods,it means only the person who use this rods is very good in this activity,this not work with everybody. I also try one MDF and find 3 metal targets and 97 empty holes,not work with me :nono:

[Morgan]

Hi.
Oh, for me and my team not necessary go down so much, totally 8-10 meters suffices.;) now we are in half-way.:D
yes, yes and yes,:cool: it depends on what kind.
as near as I have experienced and seen by this time; those types which work in balance-imbalance attraction (L shapes antennas)like most of MFDs or colt-types (e.g. Thomas 301 or Gravitator ) work.
I've no doubt cos have seen with my own eyes and no one can change my mind (as Ivconic told in a thread).:)
but problem here is for people who cannot do it then deny it. I'm aware of some treasures that were found by these simple rods at depths such as 2m, 5-6m and even 11m. but surely for digging they have used other tools I listed above.:D:D
honestly to god with acoustic LRLs i.e. PD types like mineoro-FG80 or other types personally saw nothing by this time. I can't lie. the fact was these for me by this time, rest is up to you.:rolleyes:
If you are interested in this electronic dowsing rods,i can give to you some interesting schematics,easy to build...

regards

[michael]

Hi
Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell
Dear Dell. I didn't get time to test DDL on my latest location. I had decision to do it, but as there we every time carry many of stuffs and many things are messy, my mind highly busy for management the operation on place(a hard work) by this time couldn't test DDL. If get an opportunity will check it at next time. I should mention at that place are some targets. (3) 2 are small and possibly at 4-5 meters depth and 10 meters far from huge target(at 8-10 meters)
we couldn't pinpoint small targets so that huge target field interfered and didn't let to get point from all directions.

The fact that you saw some results with MDF dowsing rods,it means only the person who use this rods is very good in this activity,this not work with everybody. I also try one MDF and find 3 metal targets and 97 empty holes,not work with me :nono:
yes, working with these L-rods and MDFs is not a work of every user. some people use them incredibly.
I myself made some of L-rods the result for me was the same. one of their limitation is that react to any anomaly underground; water, cavities and so on. then needs highly experienced operator be able to recognize(so-so) and pick best signals to focus on them. for me personally never dare to dig without conventional detector confirmation.
If you are interested in this electronic dowsing rods,i can give to you some interesting schematics,easy to build...
Morgan, your pleasure to give schematics of rods is admirable, but I have most of them and made many of them.
if you want really do a favor give the last golden points from your PD to fulfill it.:) ;) this is better and more favor as I dedicated much time for that and now left it without any result. the points you deprived us. I can't start another new work that possibly you leave in half way with a half-work.:frown:

[Morgan]

Hi

Dear Dell. I didn't get time to test DDL on my latest location. I had decision to do it, but as there we every time carry many of stuffs and many things are messy, my mind highly busy for management the operation on place(a hard work) by this time couldn't test DDL. If get an opportunity will check it at next time. I should mention at that place are some targets. (3) 2 are small and possibly at 4-5 meters depth and 10 meters far from huge target(at 8-10 meters)
we couldn't pinpoint small targets so that huge target field interfered and didn't let to get point from all directions.

yes, working with these L-rods and MDFs is not a work of every user. some people use them incredibly.
I myself made some of L-rods the result for me was the same. one of their limitation is that react to any anomaly underground; water, cavities and so on. then needs highly experienced operator be able to recognize(so-so) and pick best signals to focus on them. for me personally never dare to dig without conventional detector confirmation.

Morgan, your pleasure to give schematics of rods is admirable, but I have most of them and made many of them.
if you want really do a favor give the last golden points from your PD to fulfill it.:) ;) this is better and more favor as I dedicated much time for that and now left it without any result. the points you deprived us. I can't start another new work that possibly you leave in half way with a half-work.:frown:
Hi Michael

How can i teach you about my working PD ? I put it to work,thats true,and many people from this forum ask me technical questions,im not EE,i dont know what to answer.
There is no secrets,i spent many days calibrating OMEGA and FERRITE,and test over old targets in my FIELD TEST until get results.
If someone here think i have some secrets,i can open Device and put public photos,but dont ask me HOW IT WORKS,I DONT KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER.

REGARDS

[Max]

This is underground,not air tests...

Hi,
you're now ridiculous...

as always... just fake claims from you! :lol:

45cm for a 2eur coin underground ? Are you under drugs ? :lol:

About half a meter ??? Did you use LSD ??? :rolleyes:

Saxon X-1 is a good MD with a large coil (30cm DD)....but I cannot belive 45cm for a 2eur with it... is pure science fiction now... :razz:

Or your soil there is made of smoke and fog ? :lol:

I can detect one at more than half a meter on air with my top PI (8'' coil)... not VLFs... so about at 20'' from coil bottom, BUT ON AIR! :lol:

At http://www.staffsmetaldetectors.co.uk/5_pence.htm you'll see a test in which X-1 is reported capable of just 5'' on 5 pence coin, so just 7.5cm!?

It's not really an accurate test and I know it does better, but you see it's considered at about half of ML Explorer SE (10'' range) performance ?

I belive X-1 could find the 2eur at no more than 32-33cm underground, but in easy ground, few mineralization. In hard mineralization it'll simply sucks.

C'mon...let's make some trip with Hung... don't waste people time here... no need of other fairy tales and jokes. :razz:

Kind regards,
Max

[michael]

Hi Michael
How can i teach you about my working PD ? I put it to work,thats true,and many people from this forum ask me technical questions,im not EE,i dont know what to answer.
There is no secrets,i spent many days calibrating OMEGA and FERRITE,and test over old targets in my FIELD TEST until get results.
If someone here think i have some secrets,i can open Device and put public photos,but dont ask me HOW IT WORKS,I DONT KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER.
REGARDS

Hi, Morgan unfair talking. it's obvious you didn't tell some things and others testify this.
e.g. finally we didn't know exact ferrite and your latest TX-RX formula, we remained confused and you left us.:(
you are not EE and me too, but could explain well the end of your work.
what would you lose? concession of PD produce?
simply turn back to RS-forum and see all members requests there asked you as well as me.
what plenty of diagrams people like J-player,Geo or Andreas drew and asked your opinion. you only disregarded, maybe reason was your tiredness but reasonable was to finish what started,....
I and also others still waiting for things you chose silence about.:cool:

[Clondike Clad]

Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell

Up to your tricks again I see.
You know the the bent wires DON'T WORK

[Dell Winders]

Sorry to disappoint you, but if I am to believe the feedback I have received, the DDL works exactly as advertised for my customers.

The interest in my question is how well Michael's unit is holding up to abuse under his field conditions?

Sometimes, if it is dropped on a hard surface the epoxy holding the modules can break.

I am always open to honest feedback to help improve my products. Customer satisfaction is important.

Whether or not I have been truthful, and whether the DDL works as I claim, is up to Michael's, honest opinion and judgment, not yours, unless you own one?

Nor, is Michael, or any one, obligated to reply to my question. Dell

[Fred]

Sometimes, if it is dropped on a hard surface the epoxy holding the modules can break.
Hi,
So you don´t use melting glue any more??
Fred.

[J_Player]

Whether or not I have been truthful, and whether the DDL works as I claim, is up to Michael's, honest opinion and judgment, not yours, unless you own one?Whether or not you have been truthful does not depend on anyone's opinion. It depends on what you said and what the facts are. Opinions cannot replace historical facts.

If people's opinion and judgment was used to determine whether a spacecraft landed on the moon or not, then we will find a small handful of people with the opinion that it never happened. And anyone with an agenda could use this minority opinion to prove it never happened, even though the overwhelming majority opinion is it happened.

Now, if we are to use the Dell Winders logic of "proof is determined by the opinion and judgment of the minority", then we can prove that all of Dell Winders gizmoes work exactly as he says, even when there is an overwhelming majority of opinions that say these gizmoes don't work. Isn't it true that most treasure hunters agree they will never find any clues to where hidden treasure is by using any of Dell's Omnitron products?

But wait... There is a way to turn the tide of public opinion...
Hold a demonstration with all believers and non-believers invited to witness with their video cameras. Why not start out with a demonstration of how you can find hidden dollars inside a house using the X-scan like the stories printed on your web page?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Best wishes,
J_P
:razz: "IF IT CAN DONE, THEN PROVE IT" :razz:

[Dell Winders]

Customer proven is fact. You don't even know who they are, or anything about the truth, yet you infer they are liars. Who are you, totally ignorant of fact, hiding behind a pseudo name, ashamed of who you are. to leap to judgmental conclusions about the intelligence and truthfulness of my customers?

Shame on you! :nono:

[J_Player]

Customer proven is fact. You don't even know who they are, or anything about the truth, yet you infer they are liars. Who are you, totally ignorant of fact, hiding behind a pseudo name, ashamed of who you are. to leap to judgmental conclusions about the intelligence and truthfulness of my customers?

Shame on you! :nono:Oh Dell....
Are you trying to avoid the obvious test of whether your gizmoes work or not again in front of the people who read this forum?

I didn't infer anything, YOU DID!
Here you go again, drawing stupid inferences to try to prove you are the source of knowledge and wisdom. Did it occur to you that you appear to be an old whiny fool who is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of unsuspecting readers of this forum?

Are you sure we don't know anything about your customers?
As I recall, there are a number of your customers who posted in this forum that your LRLs don't work. Take a look at the most recent one...

[J_Player]

Customer proven is fact.Ok Dell,
You can see what your customer says above. What part of "for many months I practiced, but I could not make the unit work" don't you understand? Or do you expect me to infer that your statement "Customer proven is fact" is simply a made up advertising gimick?

Dang it's getting deep in here. Where are my high top boots? :rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Fred]

Customer proven is fact. Shame on you! :nono:
Hi Dell,
The only acceptable proof is a scientific one.Customers may be lead to believe their device work for many reasons, or claim it does work to avoid being taken for a fool.This is (unfortunately) a human reaction.
BTW, may i know who is on your avatar?
Fred.

[Morgan]

Hi,
you're now ridiculous...

as always... just fake claims from you! :lol:

45cm for a 2eur coin underground ? Are you under drugs ? :lol:

About half a meter ??? Did you use LSD ??? :rolleyes:

Saxon X-1 is a good MD with a large coil (30cm DD)....but I cannot belive 45cm for a 2eur with it... is pure science fiction now... :razz:

Or your soil there is made of smoke and fog ? :lol:

I can detect one at more than half a meter on air with my top PI (8'' coil)... not VLFs... so about at 20'' from coil bottom, BUT ON AIR! :lol:

At http://www.staffsmetaldetectors.co.uk/5_pence.htm you'll see a test in which X-1 is reported capable of just 5'' on 5 pence coin, so just 7.5cm!?

It's not really an accurate test and I know it does better, but you see it's considered at about half of ML Explorer SE (10'' range) performance ?

I belive X-1 could find the 2eur at no more than 32-33cm underground, but in easy ground, few mineralization. In hard mineralization it'll simply sucks.

C'mon...let's make some trip with Hung... don't waste people time here... no need of other fairy tales and jokes. :razz:

Kind regards,
Max
Now i can see that you dont have experience with this powerfull VLF detector.
If you live in England,go to Dave Smith (inventor of this device) and make your tests with 2Euro coin,maybe he teach you some lessons...
I repeat,in my country,in normal soil conditions ,using gain 5,i get faint signal 45 cm deep with 2 Euro coin.
Maybe you have more experience with your TGS toys,but i have good experience with more heavy MD´s like Nexus,Saxon-X1,PulseKondor,etc,etc,and they are not to play during the weekend like you do with your little Tesoro MD.
You desapoint me Max,i imagine you one of the TH Elite,but in reality you are just a beginner...

[Morgan]

Hi, Morgan unfair talking. it's obvious you didn't tell some things and others testify this.
e.g. finally we didn't know exact ferrite and your latest TX-RX formula, we remained confused and you left us.:(
you are not EE and me too, but could explain well the end of your work.
what would you lose? concession of PD produce?
simply turn back to RS-forum and see all members requests there asked you as well as me.
what plenty of diagrams people like J-player,Geo or Andreas drew and asked your opinion. you only disregarded, maybe reason was your tiredness but reasonable was to finish what started,....
I and also others still waiting for things you chose silence about.:cool:
Hi Michael

I put the first PD to work,and made some modifications later and it works better than Alonso PD.People here calibrate Omega and ferrite inside home,surrounded by metals,you think they are realy EE´s ??? I´m not EE,but i made diferent way...outside,no metals.Is this secret or its obvious!!!???
Now i have in my plans to make another one for a friend who try my PD and become excited with results. He will pay electronic components and my work ,its hard work,as you know.
Now i´m busy,but when i start,i put all information here,but i stop if again people play jokes about PD.You start experienced the same people playing jokes with your MDL8500,but i believe you.
I start the new PD as soon as possible.

Regards

[Dell Winders]

Hi,
So you don´t use melting glue any more??
Fred.

No Fred, I never did. Dell

[Max]

Now i can see that you dont have experience with this powerfull VLF detector.
If you live in England,go to Dave Smith (inventor of this device) and make your tests with 2Euro coin,maybe he teach you some lessons...
I repeat,in my country,in normal soil conditions ,using gain 5,i get faint signal 45 cm deep with 2 Euro coin.
Maybe you have more experience with your TGS toys,but i have good experience with more heavy MD´s like Nexus,Saxon-X1,PulseKondor,etc,etc,and they are not to play during the weekend like you do with your little Tesoro MD.
You desapoint me Max,i imagine you one of the TH Elite,but in reality you are just a beginner...

Hi,
your stupidity have no limits... I see! :lol:

Do you think really it can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground... you're both mad and stupid if so! :razz:

Your lunatic claims are impossible in reality of MDs...

Even in normal soil, easy soil, that detector will fail at 45cm with 2eur. I tested one myself. it failed with 1eur at 35...little mineralization on soil and for me it's enough to say it's good detector but your claims are PURE BS.

Dave Smith ? No...where's the depth chart for X-1 ? Why anyone cannot find it ? Even one comparision chart ? A good one I mean...not like the one I posted! :razz:

Explain that , genius...

Then explain here why you need Nexus, X-1 and other bla bla if you already have a working LRL! :lol: If you already can detect a coin a 100meters away ? :D

You're ridiculous... better make your knapsack and go with Hung over mountains... with a light dynamite candle inside! :razz:

Your purpose here is just make people appear ignorant about MDs and THing... cause you wanna be the star... you wanna people belive your fake claims and that Alonso is the master of universe! :lol:

You're already tested to be a snake-oil seller... and if wanna play this game here, now I will reveal to people here all "secrets" of you choppy wood box... you call it "pistoldetector". :lol: Do you want me start talking for the masses ?

You are Dell's same race...of nothing aparts fake words. ;)

Kind regards,
Max

[Morgan]

Hi,
your stupidity have no limits... I see! :lol:

Do you think really it can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground... you're both mad and stupid if so! :razz:

Your lunatic claims are impossible in reality of MDs...

Even in normal soil, easy soil, that detector will fail at 45cm with 2eur. I tested one myself. it failed with 1eur at 35...little mineralization on soil and for me it's enough to say it's good detector but your claims are PURE BS.

Dave Smith ? No...where's the depth chart for X-1 ? Why anyone cannot find it ? Even one comparision chart ? A good one I mean...not like the one I posted! :razz:

Explain that , genius...

Then explain here why you need Nexus, X-1 and other bla bla if you already have a working LRL! :lol: If you already can detect a coin a 100meters away ? :D

You're ridiculous... better make your knapsack and go with Hung over mountains... with a light dynamite candle inside! :razz:

Your purpose here is just make people appear ignorant about MDs and THing... cause you wanna be the star... you wanna people belive your fake claims and that Alonso is the master of universe! :lol:

You're already tested to be a snake-oil seller... and if wanna play this game here, now I will reveal to people here all "secrets" of you choppy wood box... you call it "pistoldetector". :lol: Do you want me start talking for the masses ?

You are Dell's same race...of nothing aparts fake words. ;)

Kind regards,
Max
Ýou dont know nothing about real MD´s,wath kind of field test you made? Did you know HOW TO GROUND BALANCE THIS DEVICE??? I dont think you can do this,you know how to make electronic circuit diagram,unfortunatly with a lot of mistakes(remember PD circuit you correct many times)and even Michael made better PD than you,wath a shame...
Stay out of your little world of TGS,and try real MD´s,or learn to work with PD !!!
Why i need Nexus or X1 ??? Man,you are so DONKEY,dont you see they are for SALE ?????????????????????

Go to Hell:cheers:

[Morgan]

Hi,
your stupidity have no limits... I see! :lol:

Do you think really it can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground... you're both mad and stupid if so! :razz:

Your lunatic claims are impossible in reality of MDs...

Even in normal soil, easy soil, that detector will fail at 45cm with 2eur. I tested one myself. it failed with 1eur at 35...little mineralization on soil and for me it's enough to say it's good detector but your claims are PURE BS.

Dave Smith ? No...where's the depth chart for X-1 ? Why anyone cannot find it ? Even one comparision chart ? A good one I mean...not like the one I posted! :razz:

Explain that , genius...

Then explain here why you need Nexus, X-1 and other bla bla if you already have a working LRL! :lol: If you already can detect a coin a 100meters away ? :D

You're ridiculous... better make your knapsack and go with Hung over mountains... with a light dynamite candle inside! :razz:

Your purpose here is just make people appear ignorant about MDs and THing... cause you wanna be the star... you wanna people belive your fake claims and that Alonso is the master of universe! :lol:

You're already tested to be a snake-oil seller... and if wanna play this game here, now I will reveal to people here all "secrets" of you choppy wood box... you call it "pistoldetector". :lol: Do you want me start talking for the masses ?

You are Dell's same race...of nothing aparts fake words. ;)

Kind regards,
Max
About Dell,you show here your arrogace with people AGAIN,this behavior maybe it will reverse to you one of this days.
I´m not sucessfull with dowsing rods but i know it works with experienced people,it was used in old times and during II world war with many aplications.
Dell devices are CRAP in your hands but are real USEFUL in hands of other people,i´m sure about this because i know many people who use this rods sucessful.
One Tresure found among many others,in 1951 Mr. J.M. Blanc,using Dowsing experience,found underground galery with Roman treasures,YOU CAN SEE THEM IN ROHAN MUSEUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

[hung]

Now i´m busy,but when i start,i put all information here,but i stop if again people play jokes about PD.
Regards

I see some things here never change and never will. So Morgan, I have the following suggestion:

The private forum was started with selected members at Esteban's suggestion. So,I would vote for an exclusion of members who are notorious skeptics of the LRL aproach. They would never be of any benefit to us, LRL proponents, added the fact that they would keep making fun of these things as always.

I think a re-selection of the members for the final PD stage wouldn't be impossible. But apart that, one more issue arrived. Carl now works for a MD corporation and our internal rule states none like that would be allowed in the private forum.
So, as he's also the administrator of the site, I strongly suggest we move the final stage to either email lists of careflully selected members, avoiding the others (we know who they are don't we?), or start a discussion group in private employing a public discussion group, such as yahoo, google, etc, only with selected allowance. Through email we would vote for the selected members.

I, like Morgan, agree that who honestly believed in all this from the start, does not deserve to be left helpless.
I have discovered some enhancements to the PD which would also be of benefit even to Morgan and I'm sure Morgan has many critical info which would be great to share.

In brief. I vote for resuming the PD discussion, only this time via email lists or trough a discussion group which would need personal allowance. Both outside Geotech.

I wanna hear what Morgan and Esteban have to say about this. Whatever they decide I agree. But we cannot keep the way it is at present.

Regards to all and sorry to others for my honesty. But it had to be like that.

[Theseus]

Dell devices are CRAP in your hands...

Dell devices are CRAP in the hands of all who fall for that scam. Sorry to inform you, but the dowsing rods will work, and respond, exactly the same whether or not Dell's devices are turned on or not.

If a dowser happens to locate something they believed they were dowsing for, they would have found it anyway without his CRAP devices even being in the area.

His CRAP devices add nothing to the dowsing response (ideomotor). They can't. It's been proven many times over.

If they did add something, we would need to rewrite all the physics books in this world, and that ain't about to happen.

Regards,

[Carl-NC]

Sorry to disappoint you, but if I am to believe the feedback I have received, the DDL works exactly as advertised for my customers.

Dell is correct. The key phrase is "works exactly as advertised". So then you should ask, "How is the DDL advertised to work?" If you read Dell's web page (http://www.omnitron.net/del_prod.htm) you will find that, through all the "appears as if" statements, there really are no claims that the DDL will do anything useful.

That being the case, I will agree with Dell, that the DDL works exactly as advertised.

And I'm not just picking on Dell... go to Fitzgerald's web site and read the ads for ALL his LRLs. There are no real claims that his products will do anything useful. Try Electroscopes... same thing. This is a tradition in LRL sales: don't make any specific claims, and let the customer create his own assumptions.

- Carl

[Max]

About Dell,you show here your arrogace with people AGAIN,this behavior maybe it will reverse to you one of this days.
I´m not sucessfull with dowsing rods but i know it works with experienced people,it was used in old times and during II world war with many aplications.
Dell devices are CRAP in your hands but are real USEFUL in hands of other people,i´m sure about this because i know many people who use this rods sucessful.
One Tresure found among many others,in 1951 Mr. J.M. Blanc,using Dowsing experience,found underground galery with Roman treasures,YOU CAN SEE THEM IN ROHAN MUSEUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

Hi,
mr. nothing... apart lunatic claims. I do know how to ground balance MDs... actually I do it many times per week using my TGS and BandidoII but not only.

You're completely desperate here...trying to promote yourself with nothing but impossible claims.

Happened with Pistoldetector , shame on you, and happened now again and again with your new jokes. I challenge anyone here demonstrate in a public session that the Saxon X-1 can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground in normal soil. Call your local newspaper and show them how you can do that, idiot. :D

I've made a PD clone and works at few cm on air... nothing at LRL, this say that I'm skeptic but I'm ready to test "new" and "different" ideas...but nothing from it... apart noise it catch really easy and normal MD behaviour.

Shame on you! Nobody testing seriously for its replication found it works as you reported... you're the only , apart Hung... that play with dynamite candles when also solder components! :lol:

You now state that LRLs work ??? :lol: Prove that! Win the challenge ! Get the money!

But for now get this! :razz:

Your ashameful commedy here is a role play game... along with Hung , Dell and some few other losers. or must I say winner ? Cause they get the money ...but from people wallets not from ground! :lol:

Hung belongs to Mineoro... Dell sold Mineoro and YOU promoted some Mineoro for "Banana-price"... and all the world know Mineoro is CRAP, for banana-price or not... it's not the problem here: Mineoro is CRAP... and PD is crap too.

What's PD ??? Uh ??? Say to people here what are the "secret" "patented" technologies from Alonso... :lol: loser.

You promote LRL as working technology but gave no details on PD that people could test to confirm your lunatic fairy tales. :lol:

You promote Saxon X-1 , that's a good detector, but not in the 45cm range underground! Fantasies... dreams... and comedies from you...

Why don't you work for the movie industry ??? :lol:

You're master of science fiction... not science. Your science is limited to some turns of wire and a lot of crappy electronics, that's it.

Nexus ? I bet you never saw one.... and are just wasting people time posting that misleading informations all the time.

Ok... your Nexus, Saxon... are on SELL ??? So what ? that way you think people will belive your choppy piece of crap pistolnothing REALLY WORKS detecting metal at long range of meters? :razz:

You're born loser.:rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

I see some things here never change and never will. So Morgan, I have the following suggestion:

The private forum was started with selected members at Esteban's suggestion. So,I would vote for an exclusion of members who are notorious skeptics of the LRL aproach. They would never be of any benefit to us, LRL proponents, added the fact that they would keep making fun of these things as always.

I think a re-selection of the members for the final PD stage wouldn't be impossible. But apart that, one more issue arrived. Carl now works for a MD corporation and our internal rule states none like that would be allowed in the private forum.
So, as he's also the administrator of the site, I strongly suggest we move the final stage to either email lists of careflully selected members, avoiding the others (we know who they are don't we?), or start a discussion group in private employing a public discussion group, such as yahoo, google, etc, only with selected allowance. Through email we would vote for the selected members.

I, like Morgan, agree that who honestly believed in all this from the start, does not deserve to be left helpless.
I have discovered some enhancements to the PD which would also be of benefit even to Morgan and I'm sure Morgan has many critical info which would be great to share.

In brief. I vote for resuming the PD discussion, only this time via email lists or trough a discussion group which would need personal allowance. Both outside Geotech.

I wanna hear what Morgan and Esteban have to say about this. Whatever they decide I agree. But we cannot keep the way it is at present.

Regards to all and sorry to others for my honesty. But it had to be like that.

uh... you're already well known Hung... no need of your advices to make a flask from a rangertell... and detect the stars! :lol:

Use a cork instead of pot Hung! :D

Ops... I forget you need a solar calculator to make it work as a flask!:rolleyes:

then you'll end up drinking at long range...

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Ýou dont know nothing about real MD´s,wath kind of field test you made? Did you know HOW TO GROUND BALANCE THIS DEVICE??? I dont think you can do this,you know how to make electronic circuit diagram,unfortunatly with a lot of mistakes(remember PD circuit you correct many times)and even Michael made better PD than you,wath a shame...
Stay out of your little world of TGS,and try real MD´s,or learn to work with PD !!!
Why i need Nexus or X1 ??? Man,you are so DONKEY,dont you see they are for SALE ?????????????????????

Go to Hell:cheers:
So... from your writing I read you mean TGS IS NOT A REAL MD ? :lol:

You're affected by Alzheimer I think... probably you forgot how many people made it and checked what's claimed in its thread is truth.

No hope for you! :razz:

[J_Player]

...I would vote for an exclusion of members who are notorious skeptics of the LRL aproach. They would never be of any benefit to us, LRL proponents, added the fact that they would keep making fun of these things as always.Dang, this looks kind of hard to do.
But why not start your own LRL forum? Then you could ban anybody who does not believe in your stories or LRLs or Myron Evans. You can only allow your LRL friends, and make tremendous progress with your modified Ranger Tell and Mineoro locators. You could even have your own private section for your engineering team. Just think... no more skeptics to answer to!!

You know you will be sorely missed along with Dell and other famous LRL people. And that can be your revenge! you can laugh about how you refuse to ever return to this skeptic-infested swamp after you create your own paradise.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Dell Winders]

Good Idea! Information exchange for LRL, and treasure hunting are welcomed at http://www.treasurehunters.yuku.com (http://www.treasurehunters.yuku.com/)

Hecklers and idiots, not permitted. Dell

[Fred]

Good Idea! Information exchange for LRL, and treasure hunting are welcomed at http://www.treasurehunters.yuku.com (http://www.treasurehunters.yuku.com/)

Hecklers and idiots, not permitted. Dell
A forum with only smart believers in LRL´s are allowed !!?? that will be boring !

[Esteban]

Pistol MDs are reals things, and these works, not at 100%! Maybe 50-60% as another MD, because suffers of limitations and can be affected by mineralized soils (mask). :)

[Esteban]

Pistol MDs are reals things, and these works, not at 100%! Maybe 50-60% as another MD, because suffers of limitations and can be affected by mineralized soils (mask). :)

1979, before all discussions, before internet, before any advertisements, here from banana's country! :lol:

Regards

Esteban

[Qiaozhi]

A forum with only smart believers in LRL´s are allowed !!?? .....
Isn't that an oxymoron? :lol:

[Morgan]

Hi,
mr. nothing... apart lunatic claims. I do know how to ground balance MDs... actually I do it many times per week using my TGS and BandidoII but not only.

You're completely desperate here...trying to promote yourself with nothing but impossible claims.

Happened with Pistoldetector , shame on you, and happened now again and again with your new jokes. I challenge anyone here demonstrate in a public session that the Saxon X-1 can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground in normal soil. Call your local newspaper and show them how you can do that, idiot. :D

I've made a PD clone and works at few cm on air... nothing at LRL, this say that I'm skeptic but I'm ready to test "new" and "different" ideas...but nothing from it... apart noise it catch really easy and normal MD behaviour.

Shame on you! Nobody testing seriously for its replication found it works as you reported... you're the only , apart Hung... that play with dynamite candles when also solder components! :lol:

You now state that LRLs work ??? :lol: Prove that! Win the challenge ! Get the money!

But for now get this! :razz:

Your ashameful commedy here is a role play game... along with Hung , Dell and some few other losers. or must I say winner ? Cause they get the money ...but from people wallets not from ground! :lol:

Hung belongs to Mineoro... Dell sold Mineoro and YOU promoted some Mineoro for "Banana-price"... and all the world know Mineoro is CRAP, for banana-price or not... it's not the problem here: Mineoro is CRAP... and PD is crap too.

What's PD ??? Uh ??? Say to people here what are the "secret" "patented" technologies from Alonso... :lol: loser.

You promote LRL as working technology but gave no details on PD that people could test to confirm your lunatic fairy tales. :lol:

You promote Saxon X-1 , that's a good detector, but not in the 45cm range underground! Fantasies... dreams... and comedies from you...

Why don't you work for the movie industry ??? :lol:

You're master of science fiction... not science. Your science is limited to some turns of wire and a lot of crappy electronics, that's it.

Nexus ? I bet you never saw one.... and are just wasting people time posting that misleading informations all the time.

Ok... your Nexus, Saxon... are on SELL ??? So what ? that way you think people will belive your choppy piece of crap pistolnothing REALLY WORKS detecting metal at long range of meters? :razz:

You're born loser.:rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max
THE CHALLENGE IS OPEN,I ACCEPT.Here (my country)where i made the test and get this result...
And dont forget to bring your Tesoro Golden Sabre to play a little in Faro beach:cool:

[Morgan]

Hi,
mr. nothing... apart lunatic claims. I do know how to ground balance MDs... actually I do it many times per week using my TGS and BandidoII but not only.

You're completely desperate here...trying to promote yourself with nothing but impossible claims.

Happened with Pistoldetector , shame on you, and happened now again and again with your new jokes. I challenge anyone here demonstrate in a public session that the Saxon X-1 can detect a 2eur coin at 45cm underground in normal soil. Call your local newspaper and show them how you can do that, idiot. :D

I've made a PD clone and works at few cm on air... nothing at LRL, this say that I'm skeptic but I'm ready to test "new" and "different" ideas...but nothing from it... apart noise it catch really easy and normal MD behaviour.

Shame on you! Nobody testing seriously for its replication found it works as you reported... you're the only , apart Hung... that play with dynamite candles when also solder components! :lol:

You now state that LRLs work ??? :lol: Prove that! Win the challenge ! Get the money!

But for now get this! :razz:

Your ashameful commedy here is a role play game... along with Hung , Dell and some few other losers. or must I say winner ? Cause they get the money ...but from people wallets not from ground! :lol:

Hung belongs to Mineoro... Dell sold Mineoro and YOU promoted some Mineoro for "Banana-price"... and all the world know Mineoro is CRAP, for banana-price or not... it's not the problem here: Mineoro is CRAP... and PD is crap too.

What's PD ??? Uh ??? Say to people here what are the "secret" "patented" technologies from Alonso... :lol: loser.

You promote LRL as working technology but gave no details on PD that people could test to confirm your lunatic fairy tales. :lol:

You promote Saxon X-1 , that's a good detector, but not in the 45cm range underground! Fantasies... dreams... and comedies from you...

Why don't you work for the movie industry ??? :lol:

You're master of science fiction... not science. Your science is limited to some turns of wire and a lot of crappy electronics, that's it.

Nexus ? I bet you never saw one.... and are just wasting people time posting that misleading informations all the time.

Ok... your Nexus, Saxon... are on SELL ??? So what ? that way you think people will belive your choppy piece of crap pistolnothing REALLY WORKS detecting metal at long range of meters? :razz:

You're born loser.:rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max
Challenge accepted,we will see who is the LOSER...
I also used one toy from TESORO,named ELDORADO,not bad,but anyway its for children,same with TGS,good device ONLY FOR SURFACE METALS...Put in those toys biger coils and they become erratic,or make changes in circuit and they become nervous or not disc. ITS YOUR TGS WORLD .

I´m waithing for you

[Morgan]

I see some things here never change and never will. So Morgan, I have the following suggestion:

The private forum was started with selected members at Esteban's suggestion. So,I would vote for an exclusion of members who are notorious skeptics of the LRL aproach. They would never be of any benefit to us, LRL proponents, added the fact that they would keep making fun of these things as always.

I think a re-selection of the members for the final PD stage wouldn't be impossible. But apart that, one more issue arrived. Carl now works for a MD corporation and our internal rule states none like that would be allowed in the private forum.
So, as he's also the administrator of the site, I strongly suggest we move the final stage to either email lists of careflully selected members, avoiding the others (we know who they are don't we?), or start a discussion group in private employing a public discussion group, such as yahoo, google, etc, only with selected allowance. Through email we would vote for the selected members.

I, like Morgan, agree that who honestly believed in all this from the start, does not deserve to be left helpless.
I have discovered some enhancements to the PD which would also be of benefit even to Morgan and I'm sure Morgan has many critical info which would be great to share.

In brief. I vote for resuming the PD discussion, only this time via email lists or trough a discussion group which would need personal allowance. Both outside Geotech.

I wanna hear what Morgan and Esteban have to say about this. Whatever they decide I agree. But we cannot keep the way it is at present.

Regards to all and sorry to others for my honesty. But it had to be like that.
Hi Hung

I can start again,for me no problem,as you know, soon i will start building new PD for one friend,and i can use it to show all the steps in the forum.
As to me no need to exclude crazy people like Max or J_P,allways very funny the coments they make about PD,they are clowns in the circus not EE;)
Regards

[Fred]

(I meant a forum where only smart believers in LRL´s are allowed ...)
Isn't that an oxymoron? :lol:
I let to you the judgement and its consequences :lol:
I just wrote an harmless phrase :frown:...
regards,
Fred.

[Max]

Challenge accepted,we will see who is the LOSER...
I also used one toy from TESORO,named ELDORADO,not bad,but anyway its for children,same with TGS,good device ONLY FOR SURFACE METALS...Put in those toys biger coils and they become erratic,or make changes in circuit and they become nervous or not disc. ITS YOUR TGS WORLD .

I´m waithing for you

Hi,
I told you call your local newspaper or demonstrate that in a public session... not that I will be there in your country.

You understand it wrong ...as always...:lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi Hung

I can start again,for me no problem,as you know, soon i will start building new PD for one friend,and i can use it to show all the steps in the forum.
As to me no need to exclude crazy people like Max or J_P,allways very funny the coments they make about PD,they are clowns in the circus not EE;)
Regards

Hi,
that's your scope here: make people belive EEs are plain stupid... or that they cannot replicate your pistolnothing. :lol:

Here some smart people (I'm not talking about me) studied for whole life physics and electronics at levels you would never imagine... there are real MASTERS of applied science here... NOT YOU, NOT HUNG, NOT DELL and NOT ALSO OTHERS THAT MAKE LUNATIC CLAIMS.

Do you belive people is so idiotic that will belive your claims or in solid science ?
Why don't beliving in pendulum stuff then ? In tarots ? Palm reading ?
Dowsing ?

You're born loser. :D I see.

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Isn't that an oxymoron? :lol:


:lol: I think too!

I cannot belive that someone would really trust a paint roller as LRL device !:D

But those "smarties" do! :lol:

Best regards,
Max

[Max]

1979, before all discussions, before internet, before any advertisements, here from banana's country! :lol:

Regards

Esteban

Hi Esteban,
sorry... but... as always a group there diggina an hole is not a proof the LRL really work...

you know! :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

:lol: I think too!

I cannot belive that someone would really trust a paint roller as LRL device !:D
But those "smarties" do! :lol:
Best regards,
Max
:lol: Smarties with a printed "M" ??
I can imagine you rageously smashing each one of them...:lol:
Fred.

[hung]

.
Here some smart people (I'm not talking about me) studied for whole life physics and electronics at levels you would never imagine...


You bet!:lol:

Point me a single one of your heroes here! Ha,ha,ha:lol::lol::razz::razz:
Maybe they'll need another life to finish what they think they learned regarding LRLs?:lol:

[Max]

You bet!:lol:

Point me a single one of your heroes here! Ha,ha,ha:lol::lol::razz::razz:
Maybe they'll need another life to finish what they think they learned regarding LRLs?:lol:

No need to point someone. People know who are "real" and who are "fake" ...pretending... scientists, engineers and technicians here.

You are one of the pretenders... as others that don't know anything about e.g. electronics apart the pcb they made watching at magazines but like to stay here selling some snake oil to the masses.

you also born loser! :D

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

:lol: Smarties with a printed "M" ??
I can imagine you rageously smashing each one of them...:lol:
Fred.

Well... "smarties" is the common , well known name of such things... when you see the "M" they are actually "M&M's" chocolate candy... a kind of smarties... there are others too, of course. :D

I like them... I like smashing a lot of these...without rage! ;)

Kind regards,
Max

[Mike(Mont)]

I would like to point out that the consciousness is what makes sense of the equipment, not the other way around. Logic-minded, left-brain, critical types cannot dowse until they learn to "give up control". Don't forget everyone has two sides to their brain. Meditation allows a person to become much more aware of the info that comes in through the senses, to access the subconscious. It literally opens up a whole new world. After weeks of practice most people reach a mediataive state without even realizing it. It's like you have to practice until you get tired of it befoire you get the breakthrough. No doubt some people get too stressed out the moment they put a set of rods in their hands. And speaking of stress, I read that adrenaline deficiency can allow for greatly increased sensitivity, so don't be afraid to get some exercise and burn it off. Maybe even try some aspirin to help calm down, xam.

[Max]

I would like to point out that the consciousness is what makes sense of the equipment, not the other way around. Logic-minded, left-brain, critical types cannot dowse until they learn to "give up control". Don't forget everyone has two sides to their brain. Meditation allows a person to become much more aware of the info that comes in through the senses, to access the subconscious. It literally opens up a whole new world. After weeks of practice most people reach a mediataive state without even realizing it. It's like you have to practice until you get tired of it befoire you get the breakthrough. No doubt some people get too stressed out the moment they put a set of rods in their hands. And speaking of stress, I read that adrenaline deficiency can allow for greatly increased sensitivity, so don't be afraid to get some exercise and burn it off. Maybe even try some aspirin to help calm down, xam.

Now you seem, even more, a newage guru... :razz:

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm no guru, but I when I see someone suffering I try to help.

[gwzd]

... here selling some snake oil to the masses.
...

After all, it turned out to be some truth about the snake oil, it is extremely rich in EPA which is in fact a very effective pain killer!
I'd go with an aspirin though.
Regards,

[Qiaozhi]

:lol: I think too!

I cannot belive that someone would really trust a paint roller as LRL device !:D

But those "smarties" do! :lol:

Best regards,
Max
Are these "smarties" all marked with an "M" for Max. Haven't you heard about sharing? :lol:
Here's some examples of oxymorons:

miltary intelligence
open secret
Microsoft Works
pretty ugly
unbiased opinionI like the last one ... goes well with this forum. :ninja:

[Qiaozhi]

Now you seem, even more, a newage guru... :razz:
Actually he's a new age senior member. :razz:

[Clondike Clad]

Still no working LRL posted and tested???????????????????????????????????

Still the same old talk and slamming?

Still snake oil( I need some for my car)
SHOW THE CURCUIT FOR ALL TO TEST( PROOF IS WHAT WE WANT)
I have a XL PRO WITH A 25inch coil and can pick up metal 9 plus feet deep.
ANYONE CAN BUY A XL PRO and put a 25 inch coil on it and do the same.
PROOF IS WHAT WE WANT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Morgan]

I'm no guru, but I when I see someone suffering I try to help.
Ho yes,Max is suffering of something...:rolleyes:

[Morgan]

Hi,
that's your scope here: make people belive EEs are plain stupid... or that they cannot replicate your pistolnothing. :lol:

Here some smart people (I'm not talking about me) studied for whole life physics and electronics at levels you would never imagine... there are real MASTERS of applied science here... NOT YOU, NOT HUNG, NOT DELL and NOT ALSO OTHERS THAT MAKE LUNATIC CLAIMS.

Do you belive people is so idiotic that will belive your claims or in solid science ?
Why don't beliving in pendulum stuff then ? In tarots ? Palm reading ?
Dowsing ?

You're born loser. :D I see.

Kind regards,
Max
I think your PD is not complete:shocked: you lost something Max...You born a loser:oh: Illusion is the first of all your pleasures...
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[Morgan]

No need to point someone. People know who are "real" and who are "fake" ...pretending... scientists, engineers and technicians here.

You are one of the pretenders... as others that don't know anything about e.g. electronics apart the pcb they made watching at magazines but like to stay here selling some snake oil to the masses.

you also born loser! :D

Kind regards,
Max
PCB 7 in Pistoldetector is snake oil for you Max. Please,drink more Irish wisky and all illusions vanish from your head...

Regards
6111

6112

[michael]

Hi.
Morgan, If there was 7th pcb that you hide and kept us uninformed about, then what can regard this behavior? :( hum? you yourself call it. I call it malice.
didn't you decide to play with us, with our time, life,.....?:(
why did you do this? if there was such serious thing, all our efforts became nothing.
oh,.... I don't know how reflect my anger.:angry: :angry: :angry:
albeit I think this sounds me a kind of a bluff.:cool:

[Max]

PCB 7 in Pistoldetector is snake oil for you Max. Please,drink more Irish wisky and all illusions vanish from your head...

Regards
6111

6112

Hi,
dear mr. nothing... I'm glad to see you again here... posting another PCB! :lol:

Is what ? Your toaster control circuitry ? :razz:

Did you glue it there last evening ? :lol:

Or is "secret" Alonso's technology! :razz:

Now I tell you why you're a loser and try to be so smarty (not chocolate made).

You're posting here BS from start:

-you told us that PD has 6 boards inside not 7... now you say there are 7! :lol: What happened ? They grown like plants ? Did you water the flowers there ? :lol:

Or tomorrow we can expect 8 boards ? And within a year they must become 100 maybe ! idiot... and loser

Now you see people here don't belive your lunatic claims anymore. The threads about PD are like a desert and no people are worried of replicating your useless bunch of aged components.

Now tell us... what's that board there ? Is your ego ? :rolleyes:

Maybe... but sure it doesn't work , as everything in you.

You told us you have no instruments and no good electronic knowledge... and now you're a guru ? :razz:

Your totally full of BS, you're a big ballon full of crap. That's what I think... of you and your toys.

What do we need now ? A picture of "something" anybody ignore about ?

To prove you're totally fake, from start... and now you wanna justify that way... why people who made PD had no LRL behaviour ! :rolleyes:

Next time you'll tell us to put a dead cat inside the box and pray some mumbo jumbo to make it works ? C'mon tell me.

You're nothing. You don't work as advertised. You're LRL by definition. :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

There seems to be some question of whether the pistol detector follows known laws of science, or is snake oil BS. It has become apparent to me that Morgan's pistol detector does indeed follow some very well known laws of science. Perhaps the new PC board-7 is the secret to the success of his pistol detector performing according to known scientific principles. Here is a test you can perform to prove this pistol detector works exactly as modern science says it should:

Take the pistol detector to the 4th floor of a tall building, then turn on the pistol detector and tune it for maximum sensitivity. When you reach the optimum detection sensitivity, then attach it to a pole with a hook to hold it. Then slowly twist the pole until the pistol detector is released, and falls to the ground. Measure how much distance the hook is above the ground.

Next, go to the ground and look for the first impact mark on the ground and mark it. Now measure the distance from the impact mark to the building, and the distance from the hook to the building. You will see the pistol detector has detected the direction of gravity. The range will depend on the height of the hook above the ground. See the diagram below to test for a range of 12 meters. Your range may vary depending on the height of the hook where you release the pistol detector from.

BETA TEST NOTE:
Preliminary reports indicate some pistol detector experimenters have had trouble getting accurate pinpointing results at 12 meters because of wind drift. While gravity is not generally effected by wind drift, the instruments used to measure it can be. So we have devised a simple work-around to solve the wind-drift problem (see below).

[Morgan]

Hi,
dear mr. nothing... I'm glad to see you again here... posting another PCB! :lol:

Is what ? Your toaster control circuitry ? :razz:

Did you glue it there last evening ? :lol:

Or is "secret" Alonso's technology! :razz:

Now I tell you why you're a loser and try to be so smarty (not chocolate made).

You're posting here BS from start:

-you told us that PD has 6 boards inside not 7... now you say there are 7! :lol: What happened ? They grown like plants ? Did you water the flowers there ? :lol:

Or tomorrow we can expect 8 boards ? And within a year they must become 100 maybe ! idiot... and loser

Now you see people here don't belive your lunatic claims anymore. The threads about PD are like a desert and no people are worried of replicating your useless bunch of aged components.

Now tell us... what's that board there ? Is your ego ? :rolleyes:

Maybe... but sure it doesn't work , as everything in you.

You told us you have no instruments and no good electronic knowledge... and now you're a guru ? :razz:

Your totally full of BS, you're a big ballon full of crap. That's what I think... of you and your toys.

What do we need now ? A picture of "something" anybody ignore about ?

To prove you're totally fake, from start... and now you wanna justify that way... why people who made PD had no LRL behaviour ! :rolleyes:

Next time you'll tell us to put a dead cat inside the box and pray some mumbo jumbo to make it works ? C'mon tell me.

You're nothing. You don't work as advertised. You're LRL by definition. :lol:

Kind regards,
Max
Hi Mr Max

mete um pouco de irish wiskey no teu PD e vais ver que ele funciona logo.
O PCB7 é um misterio para ti,mas os outros que sabem,já estao a rir dos teus raciocinios cheios de ignorancia.
So mesmo o Max para nos fazer rir :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its nothing bad my idiot Max,only you to make this forum laugh :D

Regards

[Morgan]

There seems to be some question of whether the pistol detector follows known laws of science, or is snake oil BS. It has become apparent to me that Morgan's pistol detector does indeed follow some very well known laws of science. Perhaps the new PC board-7 is the secret to the success of his pistol detector performing according to known scientific principles. Here is a test you can perform to prove this pistol detector works exactly as modern science says it should:

Take the pistol detector to the 4th floor of a tall building, then turn on the pistol detector and tune it for maximum sensitivity. When you reach the optimum detection sensitivity, then attach it to a pole with a hook to hold it. Then slowly twist the pole until the pistol detector is released, and falls to the ground. Measure how much distance the hook is above the ground.

Next, go to the ground and look for the first impact mark on the ground and mark it. Now measure the distance from the impact mark to the building, and the distance from the hook to the building. You will see the pistol detector has detected the direction of gravity. The range will depend on the height of the hook above the ground. See the diagram below to test for a range of 12 meters. Your range may vary depending on the height of the hook where you release the pistol detector from.

BETA TEST NOTE:
Preliminary reports indicate some pistol detector experimenters have had trouble getting accurate pinpointing results at 12 meters because of wind drift. While gravity is not generally effected by wind drift, the instruments used to measure it can be. So we have devised a simple work-around to solve the wind-drift problem (see below).
Hi

I think the dead cat inside PD (Max test) is better to test device performance,and its possible to find buried dead corps miles away:razz:
Max can give me us adress and i send to him PCB7 and of course a dead cat:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Clondike Clad]

PCB 7 in Pistoldetector is snake oil for you Max. Please,drink more Irish wisky and all illusions vanish from your head...

Regards
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Yes I see It and and and it is it is HOT GLUE

[detectoman]

in our pdktr the hot melt glue is one filter for indeseables interferences

[detectoman]

this is the detector lantern lrl of the poor dman
how is from man poor these not function, only 50 percent :|

[Max]

Hi Mr Max

mete um pouco de irish wiskey no teu PD e vais ver que ele funciona logo.
O PCB7 é um misterio para ti,mas os outros que sabem,já estao a rir dos teus raciocinios cheios de ignorancia.
So mesmo o Max para nos fazer rir :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Its nothing bad my idiot Max,only you to make this forum laugh :D

Regards

Hi mr. Nothing,
again here ? :lol::lol::lol: How ? Power of LRL! :razz:

You're defective and still around ? Miracle of Alonso's technologies... I see.

Ok... if I put some irish whiskey inside my PD wood thing it will sure be better after a while... cause it's like a barrique... if don't consider wires and pcb... I will simply remove, device don't work with them ...maybe will work for aging the whiskey!

You find a good recycling solution for all not working PDs people here made! :lol: Use as a barrique!

Well... you stolen my idea I gave to Hung ... of making a flask from his rangertell... nevermind! :razz:

Sure I make people laugh here... but cause I talk of you, Hung, Dell and Alonso's secrets... :lol: it's like a comic strip!

Uhm... other people know about the 7th board there hot melt glued ???

And so ? What ? Many people here like hot melt glue... er... apart Dell that will never touch a glue pistol, he uses a small dwarf to assembly his Omni-nothing-tronic. :D Maybe he's scared of burns himself using the hot melt stuff ??? Like leaving a fingerprint on it !???:cool:

So laugh people... Morgan is back! :rolleyes:

He will bring you the 8th board very soon... you'll do nothing with it... but can laugh for free!

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi

I think the dead cat inside PD (Max test) is better to test device performance,and its possible to find buried dead corps miles away:razz:
Max can give me us adress and i send to him PCB7 and of course a dead cat:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hi,
you can put everything inside... dead or alive... like the Dell's omni$$$ used as birds nest !!! I'd like to see it...with birds inside :lol:

That's destiny of users who realize the truth about their LRLs... find some recycling strategy! :razz:

Now that you're defective too... what you wanna be from here ahead ?:lol:

Don't you wanna change sex maybe ? :D

Ops... sorry... your privacy, don't wanna see if you have a PCB on the "bird" too! Kinda of mono "testis" suppressor! I don't like bird-watching ! But maybe you do ! :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[FrancoItaly]

Hi All

Some considerations supported by laws of physics:
1)- a not shielded TR coil of a common MD it's affected by DC static fields and the obvious consequence it's that a static E field changes some parameters in a variable magnetic field.
2)- A DC static field exists over the ground.
3)- Other static E fields exist under the ground.
These facts explain also the sky effect reported by Max and I think it's a logical consequence of the vectorial characteristic of E fields and B fields. This phenomenon is similar to ground influence for common MD and the ferrite coil serves to null this effect. In my project not similar to Morgan pistol (I use only the same omega coil) I balance the sky effect and the useful signal by mixing the omega signal and the ferrite signal in a resistive mixer and so I can reduce the sky effect.

Best Regards

[Fred]

Hi All

Some considerations supported by laws of physics:
1)- a not shielded TR coil of a common MD it's affected by DC static fields and the obvious consequence it's that a static E field changes some parameters in a variable magnetic field.
2)- A DC static field exists over the ground.
3)- Other static E fields exist under the ground.
These facts explain also the sky effect reported by Max and I think it's a logical consequence of the vectorial characteristic of E fields and B fields. This phenomenon is similar to ground influence for common MD and the ferrite coil serves to null this effect. In my project not similar to Morgan pistol (I use only the same omega coil) I balance the sky effect and the useful signal by mixing the omega signal and the ferrite signal in a resistive mixer and so I can reduce the sky effect.

Best Regards
Hi Franco!
Confratulations for your English, you made enormous progress!
Fred.

[FrancoItaly]

Hi Fred
unfortunately very little progress in long range results!
Best Regards

[Max]

Hi Fred
unfortunately very little progress in long range results!
Best Regards

Uhm... maybe you need the 7th PCB... :D

Or maybe , simply, the LRL is not possible with such simple devices... :rolleyes:

What I saw on my cloned PD is that is just a simple MD... unshielded coil and detect/disc metals at usual range of MD with such small coil. All as expected, nothing special and nothing LRL.

The "sky-effect" is something unusual but that's cause we, normally, don't take into account that the scalar field exist... when thinking at MDs.

The easy explaination is that in normal MDs you need keeping the coil near soil... so you shield it to avoid capacitive effects with soil...and false signals. That way you actually mask electric field effects on detector response, cause you're only interested in magnetic effects due to eddy currents in targets.

All this say that LRL builders actually LIKE electrostatic effects and so ANY kind of electrical noise too, cause the lack of proper shields. That way they could be happy with lot of noise and randomic beeps... from powerlines and thunders... and self-illusions that their devices really work detecting metals from meters away when they heard the beeps! :lol:

They live of illusions and you know... illusion is the first of all pleasures!
Like someone said. :D

Real life is made of limits, like physical laws you cannot escape from... whatever you put there using hot melt glue. :rolleyes:
Unlike someone here wanna people belive. :D

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

Real life is made of limits, like physical laws you cannot escape from... whatever you put there using hot melt glue. :rolleyes:
Unlike someone here wanna people belive. :D
Kind regards,
Max
Hi Max,
Absolutely, but we know so little physical laws!! And when we know them it is often imperfectly.
Regards,
Fred.

[Max]

Hi Max,
Absolutely, but we know so little physical laws!! And when we know them it is often imperfectly.
Regards,
Fred.

Sure but...
Do you really belive in Morgan's last story of the 7th hidden board ? :lol:

Is more probable he wanna really change sex than that story is truth ! That's what I think. :D

Just fake informations from him... and other LRL jokers. :rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Hi Max,
Absolutely, but we know so little physical laws!! And when we know them it is often imperfectly.
Regards,
Fred.

Yes, if you respect very much and scare these laws you can't find the strange "behavior" of good conductive metal buried from long time. :)

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

Hi Esteban,
sorry... but... as always a group there diggina an hole is not a proof the LRL really work...

you know! :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

Diggin an hole and detecting with a pistol! This just I know: if you're in the group and see and comprobe and found the target, so is a proof only for you! Imagine this situation: you're the person (like me) who comprobe the possibility and high efficiency (sometimes) of these detectors... you'll defend your position! :)

Regards

Esteban

[Max]

Yes, if you respect very much and scare these laws you can't find the strange "behavior" of good conductive metal buried from long time. :)

Regards

Esteban

Here we are.

Suppose that 7th board make any difference and allow LRL detection...(hard to belive, or impossible to me... but lets assume it works really)

So, what's that magic board that make the useless PD we already know a powerful WORKING LRL ? :D

Not for use it as a barrique... I mean! :rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[Max]

Diggin an hole and detecting with a pistol! This just I know: if you're in the group and see and comprobe and found the target, so is a proof only for you! Imagine this situation: you're the person (like me) who comprobe the possibility and high efficiency (sometimes) of these detectors... you'll defend your position! :)

Regards

Esteban

I would defend my discovery using patents... why you (LRL people) haven't patents there ?

There's nothing to patent, I must conclude. :D

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

I would defend my discovery using patents... why you (LRL people) haven't patents there ?

There's nothing to patent, I must conclude. :D

Kind regards,
Max

Yes, there are patents but not in public domain as USA or Europe... :)

Regards

Esteban

[Fred]

Sure but...
Do you really belive in Morgan's last story of the 7th hidden board ? :lol:
Of course not, he just made this picture to tease you, and you falled in...:rolleyes:
Looks like a PLL with 145151 to me :lol:.
Yes, there are patents but not in public domain as USA or Europe... :)
You cannot patent a thing that is not working reliably and based on unknown principles....

Regards,
Fred.

[Fred]

Well,i should have found this before but here it is a very interesting detector schematic made especially for plastic mine detection.
The (translated) principles of operation is as follow:
"To understand well the principle, we have to keep in mind that the earth magnetic field is homogeneous and that any object in this field will produce some anomalie.The principle of detection of the TM5 detector relies on the detection of those anomalies.An HF transmitter "contaminate" the earth field by transmitting a certain amount of RF power.
Every object absorb the radiations , or alter them in some way , and the electronic reading allow to evaluate the changes, in comparison with the transmitted values"
The name they give to this MD is :
Special detector TM 5-6665-293-13
and is presented as a military detector.

Looking better at it, i think this schematic principle is the real Esteban´s PD !!! :
And oscillator and an "anomaly" detector based on an RX antenna loosely coupled...
This is from the Rolf Wilhelm book, "metal detectors", the one of the DBP2010.

regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

Of course not, he just made this picture to tease you, and you falled in...:rolleyes:
Looks like a PLL with 145151 to me :lol:.

You cannot patent a thing that is not working reliably and based on unknown principles....

Regards,
Fred.

Yes, some are pistol with search coil based on electromagnetism principle.

[Esteban]

Well,i should have found this before but here it is a very interesting detector schematic made especially for plastic mine detection.
The (translated) principles of operation is as follow:
"To understand well the principle, we have to keep in mind that the earth magnetic field is homogeneous and that any object in this field will produce some anomalie.The principle of detection of the TM5 detector relies on the detection of those anomalies.An HF transmitter "contaminate" the earth field by transmitting a certain amount of RF power.
Every object absorb the radiations , or alter them in some way , and the electronic reading allow to evaluate the changes, in comparison with the transmitted values"
The name they give to this MD is :
Special detector TM 5-6665-293-13
and is presented as a military detector.

Looking better at it, i think this schematic principle is the real Esteban´s PD !!! :
And oscillator and an "anomaly" detector based on an RX antenna loosely coupled...
This is from the Rolf Wilhelm book, "metal detectors", the one of the DBP2010.

regards,
Fred.

I read that some UHF detectors tend to detect all objects placed by the man on the soil, include ceramic. Those are affected by wet and causes false signals...

[Fred]

I read that some UHF detectors tend to detect all objects placed by the man on the soil, include ceramic. Those are affected by wet and causes false signals...
So, just like PD, righ ? :)
Regards,
Fred.

[Esteban]

In general (and general secret) ANY very sensitive device, but very stable, do the job, all systems you want WORK (for conductive metal buried for X years, maybe since 3 years but no at high depth) (for these 3 years). :)

Regards

Esteban

[Esteban]

So, just like PD, righ ? :)
Regards,
Fred.
Deppend, no all detect in false. Some system (open base) I found demonstrates (for me, off course) :lol: how "infernal field" is around a simple rifle cartridge (old). :)


Regards

Esteban

[Max]

Well,i should have found this before but here it is a very interesting detector schematic made especially for plastic mine detection.
The (translated) principles of operation is as follow:
"To understand well the principle, we have to keep in mind that the earth magnetic field is homogeneous and that any object in this field will produce some anomalie.The principle of detection of the TM5 detector relies on the detection of those anomalies.An HF transmitter "contaminate" the earth field by transmitting a certain amount of RF power.
Every object absorb the radiations , or alter them in some way , and the electronic reading allow to evaluate the changes, in comparison with the transmitted values"
The name they give to this MD is :
Special detector TM 5-6665-293-13
and is presented as a military detector.

Looking better at it, i think this schematic principle is the real Esteban´s PD !!! :
And oscillator and an "anomaly" detector based on an RX antenna loosely coupled...
This is from the Rolf Wilhelm book, "metal detectors", the one of the DBP2010.

regards,
Fred.

Hi,
what ? a plastic mine change the magnetic field ?

This is really new for me... :lol:

I think the lines of above must be heavy corrected to make any sense...

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

Hi,
what ? a plastic mine change the magnetic field ?

This is really new for me... :lol:

I think the lines of above must be heavy corrected to make any sense...

Kind regards,
Max
Hi Max,
I carefully translated the text,so it is exactly as in the book.
But if you read well you will see that the device detect differences between the "normal" and "not normal" field.
We know that the plastic don´t disturb the filed, so this is the lack of diturbed field that we are going to detect.
At least this is how i understand this.
regards,
Fred.

[Max]

Hi Max,
I carefully translated the text,so it is exactly as in the book.
But if you read well you will see that the device detect differences between the "normal" and "not normal" field.
We know that the plastic don´t disturb the filed, so this is the lack of diturbed field that we are going to detect.
At least this is how i understand this.
regards,
Fred.

I was meaning correcting the book... not translation! :lol:

[Max]

So, just like PD, righ ? :)
Regards,
Fred.

Hi,
the "PD" , or well... the metal detector that's inside have no real ground balance ... you will sure get influence from magnetic crystals of fired bricks ON SHORT RANGE ...few cms.

The MD is discriminating one, with rude disc but effective... so you'll probably see it as masking of silver and other non-ferrous metals...always at SHORT RANGE of few cms.

Like old md bfo or off-resonance. Nothing special. :D

Kind regards,
Max

[Fred]

I think there is similarities between this mines detector and the PD, except the PD is very crude version.
The omega coil would be the RF generator, and the ferrite the detector, carefully positioned : you can see on the diagram i posted the "decoupler".
The fact is, IF the principles works, it would explain the LRL devices we have seen ,with antenna : RF can be generated from somewhere else, and the Antenna is detecting variations.that would also expalin why it is so unreliable.:D
It would be interesting to make some search aboutthis detector...
regards,
Fred.

[Fred]

http://www.groundzerobooksltd.com/details.php?record=43433&URLPAIR=%2F%2Fwww.groundzerobooksltd.com%2FadvSear chResults.php%3Faction%3Dsearch%26mTitle%3DTechnic al%2BManuals%26category_id%3D1538%2C2415%26authorF ield%3D%26titleField%3D%26illustratField%3D%26publ isherField%3D%26keywordsField%3D%26binding%3D%26pr iceStart%3D%26priceEnd%3D%26signed%3D%26firstEd%3D %26kwconj%3D%26sale%3D%26disc%3D%26da%3D

and:

http://www.militarymarketplace.com/cgi-bin/eShop/index.cgi?cart_id=11653.7237&pid=1860
Anyone in the US willing to buy it and share info? :)
Fred.

[michael]

Michael, how is the Dell Directional Locator (DDL) holding up under your conditions? Thanks! Dell
Hi,
I got a time to take DDL and check on our location. it was reacting very clearly. this was first time I saw such behavior from DDL. it swirled strongly.:shocked: of course for some reasons I couldn't check it for long distance or much far from location.
an strange thing was the direction of DDL rotation. from S to N walking it swirled to right and hit my arm, but from N to S swirled to left and hit my chest. it was very clear without any ideomotor. even when tilting down
DDL head , got clear reaction. I did this for many times.

[Max]

Hi,
I got a time to take DDL and check on our location. it was reacting very clearly. this was first time I saw such behavior from DDL. it swirled strongly.:shocked: of course for some reasons I couldn't check it for long distance or much far from location.
an strange thing was the direction of DDL rotation. from S to N walking it swirled to right and hit my arm, but from N to S swirled to left and hit my chest. it was very clear without any ideomotor. even when tilting down
DDL head , got clear reaction. I did this for many times.

Do you mean the paint roller ? :rolleyes:

[Dell Winders]

Hi,
I got a time to take DDL and check on our location. it was reacting very clearly. this was first time I saw such behavior from DDL. it swirled strongly.:shocked: of course for some reasons I couldn't check it for long distance or much far from location.
an strange thing was the direction of DDL rotation. from S to N walking it swirled to right and hit my arm, but from N to S swirled to left and hit my chest. it was very clear without any ideomotor. even when tilting down
DDL head , got clear reaction. I did this for many times.

Thank you for the feedback.

Forget about long range. No accurate LRL survey can be conducted for more than 100 yards at a time.

Also, try gripping the DDL handle tight, and make a broad sweep aiming no more than 6 inches above the target. The DDL is highly directional. Sweeping above, or below the target, you will loose it.

You should feel the resistance as you hit each outside edge of the target field, even with your eyes closed.

Then, with short sweeps, Center aim between the side edges of the target field to lock onto the target.

Remember, the DDL does not Discriminate. You have to use your FG with the appropriate frequency for the DDL to lock onto a Discriminated target.

Aim the DDL in front of and sweep back & forth to lock onto, and trace the Signal line, to a target, if you prefer to locate the target in that manner. Enjoy! Dell

[michael]

Hi
Do you mean the paint roller ? :rolleyes:
It doesn't matter the name or shape, see how & what's working.:D ;)
Thank you for the feedback.
Forget about long range. No accurate LRL survey can be conducted for more than 100 yards at a time.
Also, try gripping the DDL handle tight, and make a broad sweep aiming no more than 6 inches above the target. The DDL is highly directional. Sweeping above, or below the target, you will loose it.
You should feel the resistance as you hit each outside edge of the target field, even with your eyes closed.
Then, with short sweeps, Center aim between the side edges of the target field to lock onto the target.
Remember, the DDL does not Discriminate. You have to use your FG with the appropriate frequency for the DDL to lock onto a Discriminated target.

Aim the DDL in front of and sweep back & forth to lock onto, and trace the Signal line, to a target, if you prefer to locate the target in that manner. Enjoy! Dell
Dell, thank you for leadings I will try at first time I get time that think isn't soon as I haveso much busy mind for how manage excavating treasure.
the existent target is very huge not comparable with small targets like a coin or even bunch of coins. it's really huge we guess there is a room with at least 5m x 5m full of hoard.
So can't mark a distinct line for its' field. it's possible that I've walked over target not out in the field outline.
I tried to do this as far as possible but situation didn't let me go farther than 10 meters of our dug hole.
about FG I had checked there last year at best conditions, no result, entirely null.
as there are at least 3 targets, after excavating the biggest maybe at future check other targets with DDL + our new powerful transmitter that my friend has fulfilled it last week.

[Qiaozhi]

So can't mark a distinct line for its' field. it's possible that I've walked over target not out in the field outline.
You must also consider the possibility that there is no "field" to detect (if that's the correct word), or that it's "working" by self-delusion - which is the most likely explanation.

[michael]

You must also consider the possibility that there is no "field" to detect (if that's the correct word), or that it's "working" by self-delusion - which is the most likely explanation.
Hi, If we want to use exact "field detection" term, yes, you're right. can't definitely tell it was a field detection or DDL is doing that, but I'm sure about one thing; that huge target has an enormous noticeable field around.
Why my MDL got signals from 80-90 meters and with approaching it was logarithmically increasing? so we had to reset( retune) MDL for many times to let us go ahead and get the real point.
I think it's nothing than a field. the field of huge target too strong to let us pinpoint smaller targets which have less depth. we only could get signals of smaller one in opposite direction line, but for other lines, the signal of huge target interferes and MDL overloads so can't recognize cross point.
and in past weekend we took there MDL with hope to find smaller target(cos are in less depth and a more easy work) why? cos we thought now with a big dug hole we have broken the field and pinpointing them is possible. but no, the strong signal was still as the same and nothing had been changed.
DDL on the suspect point of small targets do not specific reaction as small targets are in fact inside the edge of huge target field. so this caused our work hard, so we have to first excavate huge target, and by the time removing huge target finding small ones is impossible.
DDL was obviously reacting to edge of the huge target field.
I hope could have transferred my purposes.

[Morgan]

Hi, If we want to use exact "field detection" term, yes, you're right. can't definitely tell it was a field detection or DDL is doing that, but I'm sure about one thing; that huge target has an enormous noticeable field around.
Why my MDL got signals from 80-90 meters and with approaching it was logarithmically increasing? so we had to reset( retune) MDL for many times to let us go ahead and get the real point.
I think it's nothing than a field. the field of huge target too strong to let us pinpoint smaller targets which have less depth. we only could get signals of smaller one in opposite direction line, but for other lines, the signal of huge target interferes and MDL overloads so can't recognize cross point.
and in past weekend we took there MDL with hope to find smaller target(cos are in less depth and a more easy work) why? cos we thought now with a big dug hole we have broken the field and pinpointing them is possible. but no, the strong signal was still as the same and nothing had been changed.
DDL on the suspect point of small targets do not specific reaction as small targets are in fact inside the edge of huge target field. so this caused our work hard, so we have to first excavate huge target, and by the time removing huge target finding small ones is impossible.
DDL was obviously reacting to edge of the huge target field.
I hope could have transferred my purposes.
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[Max]

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No limits... to human stupidity! :lol:

[joecoin]

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That "huge target" was his belly. :shocked:

[Morgan]

That "huge target" was his belly. :shocked:
No,his target was your and Max a-s-s h-o-l-l-e :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Even if the Dowsing rod´s people are crazy i think they have the rigth to walk around with the sticks on hands...:rolleyes: But this one is famous,as you can see he is with reporters from TV.

Kind regards

[Esteban]

No,his target was your and Max a-s-s h-o-l-l-e :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Even if the Dowsing rod´s people are crazy i think they have the rigth to walk around with the sticks on hands...:rolleyes: But this one is famous,as you can see he is with reporters from TV.

Kind regards

In the assumption that LRL works (with much practice, etc.), I can't imagine how a man carrying a bag can obtain "responses" with this weight, maybe he need for equilibrium. :lol:

[Max]

No,his target was your and Max a-s-s h-o-l-l-e :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Even if the Dowsing rod´s people are crazy i think they have the rigth to walk around with the sticks on hands...:rolleyes: But this one is famous,as you can see he is with reporters from TV.

Kind regards

yes.. he's a famous clown... like some here! Not you! :lol:

[Qiaozhi]

But this one is famous,as you can see he is with reporters from TV.
OK - it must be true then ... it was on the TV.
What more proof do you need? :rolleyes:

[Max]

In the assumption that LRL works (with much practice, etc.), I can't imagine how a man carrying a bag can obtain "responses" with this weight, maybe he need for equilibrium. :lol:

Uhm... the bag is really suspect...

I have two options:

1. he put there the wallet excavation revenues...:D
2. he has some ...particular... ehm... disease... so the bag contains his pi$$ and p00p ! :lol:

Sorry for the 2. option... expecially if you're just to bite your hamburger... :rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Uhm... the bag is really suspect...

I have two options:

1. he put there the wallet excavation revenues...:D
2. he has some ...particular... ehm... disease... so the bag contains his pi$$ and p00p ! :lol:

Sorry for the 2. option... expecially if you're just to bite your hamburger... :rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

Nice avatar, now you're a buddy of Morgan (the pirate)! :lol:

[Morgan]

In the assumption that LRL works (with much practice, etc.), I can't imagine how a man carrying a bag can obtain "responses" with this weight, maybe he need for equilibrium. :lol:
The bag contains marks to put over targets. He is looking for anomalies underground,and those reporters are making the film for TV,in Moscow City...
Yes he is famous,already with 80 years old , i talk with him personaly,he not use dowsing for TH,he use only for other more important things,lost people,to find criminals,chose good place for buildings etc,etc...
He as good reputation,thats wath i understand there.

[Max]

Nice avatar, now you're a buddy of Morgan (the pirate)! :lol:

Hi,
no... it isn't... it's Jack Rackham's "company" flag... :D

Morgan, as always, copyed it! :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[Morgan]

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[mosha]

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Hi morgan

why??? did you find them useful!!

or just you lost hope for sale.

[takhslambos]

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REGARDSmorgan please tell me what mineoro lrl devise is available for sale? and in what price? if you like sent me a pm.thanks.