Wallet Mining and Scamming

[Clondike Clad]

Who is hurting the LRL fourm and why.
I know I don't like scammers and wallet miners.
It is stealing to me.
Dell you can talk about me as well.

[Dell Winders]

Who is hurting the LRL fourm and why.
I know I don't like scammers and wallet miners.
It is stealing to me.
Dell you can talk about me as well.

I don't care for scammers and deception either. I am not as I am accused of by you, and other members of this forum. The libelious comments made here about me are untrue, malicious, with purposeful intention to defame my name and slander my character and honest reputation.

Clondike, I will talk (reply) to you on this forum as time permits, or if you call me, but why in the world should I talk ABOUT you, or why would you even invite me to do so? Dell

[Clondike Clad]

I don't care for scammers and deception either. I am not as I am accused of by you, and other members of this forum. The libelious comments made here about me are untrue, malicious, with purposeful intention to defame my name and slander my character and honest reputation.

Clondike, I will talk (reply) to you on this forum as time permits, or if you call me, but why in the world should I talk ABOUT you, or why would you even invite me to do so? Dell
Tell us Dell, what is exactly the truth?
1. Did Vernon Rose build his electronic LRLs before your Randi test like you said or not?
2. If you did not use anything made by Vernon Rose to perform the Randi test, exactly what instruments did you use, Dell?
3. Did you sell thousands of dollars worth of VR-800 LRLs made by Vernell Electronics with your Dell Systems (tm) label or not?
4. What exactly were your hidden dealings with Vernon Rose and Vernell Electronics? What is the real reason you had Dell System labels on those Vernell LRLs you sold? Why did you sell them with your label, then refuse to take responsiblilty for the contents inside the box?
5. What proof do you have that would stand up in a court of law to prove Randi lied about you failing his test?
6. Why don't you go back and accept Randi's continued offer to you to claim his $1million? With today's technology, you could have a crowd of witnesses with inexpensive video cameras rolling to prove what really happens in a double blind test.

It look to me you fit the scammers and you told many a large LIE and people know about your lies.
So a snake oil man is a snake oil man in any book.
All i like to see if you would answer the questions.

Dell will you answer the questions.

[Theseus]

I am not as I am accused of by you, and other members of this forum. Dell

Last time I checked, you were still trying to sell LRL implements, the advertising of which would imply that they don't involve the practice of dowsing and that the added capsules, bogus electronics and other lights and switches would somehow enhance the operation of the instrument.

That being the case, then any accusations made here that you are a scammer and a wallet-miner, are perfectly legitimate.

[Mike(Mont)]

Someone here does not understand the basics. LRL's are body response instruments. You don't have to know how to dowse, but you do have to be able to feel the response. As Christopher Hills says, ultimately your consciousness has to make sense of the senses. Your consciousness discriminates the info (via wave length) your senses detect. There are no red, blue, green sensors in your eyes or brain. There are no sensors in your ears that detect a "C" note. No one knows if the color red looks the same to them as to other people, but everyone knows red is different than blue.

When I say some people do not understand, I mean they are expecting the LRL to do everything. Sorry, but that's not the case. I compare learning to use an LRL to learning to play golf. Yes, it is that difficult. No LRL manufacturer wants you to know this. I know someone says you can learn in twenty minutes and this is not true. It sometimes takes me twenty minutes just to get warmed up, and if I haven't practiced for a few weeks it could be several days to get it back. Even the electronic receivers require practice. As

I've said before, meditation of some sort is essential. Most people cannot meditate, even the saints have reported they only get it right now and then. Ther are devices you can buy to train you to meditate. Biofeedback, GSR, brainwave monitors, heart rate variability(HRV), etc. but even these take weeks or months to learn well enough to be useful in locating. Sure, some people are naturals, people that live in the country are much more tuned to nature and themself. Most people are not, but they can learn. That's why the hillbilly types can learn easier than the city slickers, but really it's those who can access their right brain and shut off the left, logical side. They don't question it.

[Theseus]

Someone here does not understand the basics. LRL's are body response instruments.

That someone is you.

The true basics are: All LRLs, whether they be a simple bent wire or a fancy swivel handle coupled with thousands of dollars of do-nothing electronic components, ALL operate as a result of the operator's ideomotor response.

If you've been brainwashed into thinking otherwise, I'm sorry. (You are not the first, nor will you be the last).

Perhaps if you meditated some on the physics involved with all LRLs, you would come to understand that it is all just dowsing.

Ergo, dowsing is required in the operation of all LRLs.

Regards,

[Dell Winders]

Ergo, dowsing is required in the operation of all LRLs.

Ergo, you and Sam, are just plain stupid about your knowledge of Dowsing. Dell

[Theseus]

Ergo, you and Sam, are just plain stupid about your knowledge of Dowsing. Dell

My knowledge of dowsing is in complete agreement with those who actually understand the concept, and who are not involved in the business of wallet-mining by selling worthless high-priced do-nothing LRLs.

You, on the other hand, must maintain a stance contrary to what is really happening, in order to support your scam wallet-mining business.

When faced with the truth, or tough questions, you always resort to name-calling. How childish. But it does point out your obvious guilt.

I don't see anyone here posting under the name Sam. Do you live in a state of constant confusion and denial, and are you imagining people by various names?

[Mike(Mont)]

You can lead a mule to water but you can't make him drink.

[Mike(Mont)]

I'll repeat this because it is worth it. Meditation is essential to higher (expanded) consciousness. When I say it takes me twenty minutes to get warmed up sometimes, hopefully you get a clue to what I mean. It may take that long before I get into the meditative state. Sometimes it's easier to get there, sometimes I can't get there. You can't get there by thinking logically. Sometimes a distraction can help take your mind off what is disturbing you, but sometimes it might make it worse. A good exercise routine can help you achieve the meditative state.

If I were to do it all over, I would buy some type of biofedback equipment and learn how to use it before I ever touched an L-rod. Sure I read this but always thought I knew better. That's a sickness on my part. There are some GSR units made for this (well under $100) or more expensive systems like Healing Rhythms you hook up to your computer. The heart breath is good for your internal organs, too. Most people do not breathe properly. I totally agree LRL's are a waste of time if you cannot meditate, and most people cannot. Many learn without realizing it after daily LRL practice for a few weeks, but there is a better way.

[Qiaozhi]

You can lead a mule to water but you can't make him drink.
I think you've just proved that as a fact. :razz:

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK."

[Qiaozhi]

When I say some people do not understand, I mean they are expecting the LRL to do everything. Sorry, but that's not the case.
These are the most true words you have said so far, since LRLs cannot do everything, except wallet mining and detecting gravity. :lol:

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK."

[Mike(Mont)]

You just don't get it, even when it's handed to you on a silver platter.

[Mike(Mont)]

When people talk about someone with only half a brain, they mean it literally. God gave most of us two sides to our brain. To squander your potential is considered a sin.

[Mike(Mont)]

Marcel Vogel did work with liquid crystals for IBM. He said your body is liquid crystals (mainly the blood). Think crystal vibrations. He was able to see a flash of blue light. He did work with sound waves and crystals. I can't recall the details, but you might want to read up on it. Something real freaky has to do with his experiments on wine. Reminds me of the wedding at Cana.

http://www.vogelcrystals.net/legacy_of_marcel_vogel.htm

[J_Player]

He was able to see a flash of blue light. He did work with sound waves and crystals. I can't recall the details, but you might want to read up on it.Hi Mike(Mont),
Yup, I think I will read up on it. Now lemme see... I think I will search Google for "flash of blue light" and see what I find.

Well gaulllyyyy... looky here what it says about flashes of blue light...

Ship disappears in an alleged blue flash of light
http://occamsbroadsword.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
During this second attempt, the ship disappeared from the Philadelphia Naval Yard in a blinding flash of blue light and was reportedly seen off the coast of Norfolk, VA, before returning in the same mysterious fashion to Philadelphia.

Flash of blue light means big trouble for workers mixing a liquid batch of uranium:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19991001/ai_n14277035
That happened yesterday: a JCO official said there was about 16kg of enriched uranium in the tank, eight times the normal working amount. Nobody had an early explanation for why so much was being used.
Messrs Ouchi, Shinohara and Yokokawa saw a blue flash. Scientists think that in fact there is nothing blue about the light from the reaction, but that its colour results from the high-energy neutrons blasting the nerves in the back of the eye.
To those exposed, it does not matter. Anyone who sees the flash has been exposed in an instant to thousands of times more radiation than they would expect in a year.

UFO sends an alarming flash of blue light
http://members.aol.com/OpenChD/future.htm
He never finished the thought. Uri's peculiar dance ended abruptly
in a crackling flash of blue light that knocked him backward, flat
on his backside in the snow. He was up again in a flash, jabbering
excitedly.

Flash of blue light causes R. sphaeroides cells to change their swimming speed
http://jb.asm.org/cgi/content/full/181/1/34/F1
Change in swimming speed of normal-light-grown R. sphaeroides cells in response to a flash of light of a different wavelength and duration. (A and C) Average behavior of 10 cells in response to a 1-s flash of white (A) or blue (C) light. (B and D) Change in mean speed of the population of at least 100 free-swimming cells in response to a 30-s pulse of white (B) or blue (D) light. (E and F) Behavior of two individual cells at the end of a flash of blue light. , light on; , light off. The apparent slow swimming speed on the step down in light is the result of the distribution of response times shown by cells in the population (E and F).

Blue flash olf light seen before a ghost haunts a house
http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?articleID=896
I was sitting on her bed telling a story when out of the corner of my eye I thought I saw a flash of blue light. I didn’t say anything but she saw my face go pale and I stopped talking. She immediately jumped up and said "Oh its ok, its ok, look its just nerves, nothing here." She walked over to the door and made sure it was solidly shut...
...My best friend cried desperately for me to keep going " Don’t Look just run PLEASE just GO!!!!!! She grabbed my arm but it was too late...

Wintergreen Lifesaver mints emit a flash of blue light when broken
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/wintergreen.htm
...When a lifesaver is broken, the positive and negative charges in the sugar molecules split, creating an electric field across the break. This field is strong enough to excite nitrogen molecules in the air with the result that they reemit the energy they absorbed from the electric filed in a burst of ultraviolet radiation, which we can't see. This radiation is then absorbed by the wintergreen oil that is used to flavor the lifesaver. This energy is then emitted as a flash of blue light that we can see.

When particles break the light barrier, they produce a flash of blue light
http://www.scitech.ac.uk/roadmap/rmQuestions.aspx?q=9
When particles move at these extreme speeds they produce a brief flash of blue light, called Cherenkov radiation - it's the light analogy of the sonic boom produced when something moves faster than the speed of sound in air.

Now I always knew there was something to that "flash of blue light" stuff, and this pretty much proves it!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

I can't recall the exact reference... but seems I read somewhere that a certain golf ball, when struck with a certain Driver would emit a spark; or was that a flash of blue light. :lol:

What I'm trying to figure out is; what do these random flashes of blue light have to do with dowsing and LRLs? I don't see the connection, nor do the flashes validate the claims for something physical happening during the operation of an LRL.

You are grasping as straws, Mike; and trying to make connections where none exist.

[Mike(Mont)]

The way you guys cut people up I am starting to see some sort of psychological pattern. Sort of like the guy who did in John Lennon. "There you be if not for he." I really think you believe you know more than Vogel on liquid crystals. That's pathological.

Maybe if I repeat it enough you will eventually see. Meditation is essential to higher consciousness aka expanded consciousness. The dowsing response becomes extremely more sensitive. How did anyone know how to do this thousands of years ago without scientific equipment?

[Theseus]

Maybe if I repeat it enough you will eventually see. Meditation is essential to higher consciousness aka expanded consciousness. The dowsing response becomes extremely more sensitive. How did anyone know how to do this thousands of years ago without scientific equipment?

Your repetition of a theory or belief, is strictly for your own benefit. Clearly, you would like to believe in that which you propose, but you are secretly unsure of its real validity --so repeating it both here and to yourself, serves as mechanism to boost your ego and belief systems.

Many individuals tend to harbor some very strange and occult belief systems. In general these belief systems are way out in left field, so it becomes necessary for the believer to concoct even more falsehoods, in an attempt to validate their own belief system. It's a never ending circle, but you are obviously caught up in it, and have been for some time now.

Regards,

[Max]

Marcel Vogel did work with liquid crystals for IBM. He said your body is liquid crystals (mainly the blood). Think crystal vibrations. He was able to see a flash of blue light. He did work with sound waves and crystals. I can't recall the details, but you might want to read up on it. Something real freaky has to do with his experiments on wine. Reminds me of the wedding at Cana.

http://www.vogelcrystals.net/legacy_of_marcel_vogel.htm

Hi,
:lol: new age stuff again ??? :D

Liquid crystals ??? In the human blood ??? :lol:

Sure... one is cholesterol ! :razz: (in so called..."chiral nematic phase")

I don't see how this could be related to LRL but it's really funny thinking that some LRL scammers and "entusiasts" have , actually, hypercholesterolemia... too hi levels of it in the blood ! :razz:

Maybe they see that flashes too... blue things...like with VIAGRA! ;)

I'm sure they see that flashing stuff when fu**ing people, expecially at wallets! :D

I think D*** is a pioneer in that kind of research... junk food, paint rollers and liquid crystals... maybe also hot melt glue stuff and perfboards to make it more cool.

Uhm... I must dismantle some twisted nematic and go for THing with a liquid crystal gold compass and some mandrake roots in my paint roller next time! :cool:

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

What I'm trying to figure out is; what do these random flashes of blue light have to do with dowsing and LRLs? I don't see the connection, nor do the flashes validate the claims for something physical happening during the operation of an LRL.I must admit, I couldn't see the connection either until I began to meditate, as Mike(Mont) suggested. When I reached a higher state of consciousness, It finally started to become clear to me. Are these simply random flashes of blue light? Aren't they connected? Only those who have attained a higher state of consciousness will know.

First, let's look at those articles I sited. Start with the UFO making an alarming flash of blue light. This may well be where the idea of utilizing a blue flash of light all started. And when the US military figured it out, they copied the space alien's methods to make their own ship disappear. But what does a flash of blue light have to do with disappearing ships and UFOs? The Cherenkov radiation article could shed some light on this. You will see the flash of blue light is rocket science (or actually beyond rocket science). Young scientists who have no sponsor for expensive experiments are still demonstrating the flash of blue light with witnergreen life savers. Take a look at how the Japanese workers learned the importance of the flash of blue light the hard way while mixing their uranium. This flash of blue light can be so dangerous that the R. sphaeroides cells change their swimming speed in an attempt at evasive maneuvers (If these cells had a brain, they might understand that their method won't work). And we also see that ghosts move using methods of the flash of blue light, the same as space aliens and UFOs

Now if this doesn't make perfect sense to you, I must quote Mike(Mont)'s definitive statements that explain why not: Meditation is essential to higher (expanded) consciousness...
...You can't get there by thinking logically.

As Mike(Mont) says, It is essential to use the other half of your brain in order to expand your consciousness to a higher level. With a limited consciousness of the world around you, you just can't see the significance of these flashes of blue light. Has the left half of your brain had grown so big it is crowding into the space reserved for the right half? Is the left half causing enough pressure to make the right brain half to go on strike, and stop thinking altogether? According to Mike(Mont), you cannot reach this expanded consciousness with methods of logic. I wonder if meditation is the only thing that can save you, so you too can see how the blue flash of light works.

After you understand the principle of the flash of blue light, then we can all move on to the liquid crystals that we are, according to Marcel Vogel. Of course, don't hook up an electric power supply to your body. In this case, you will see the blue flash of light when the liquid crystals of your body are resonated with the correct sound waves. Now are there any meditators out there that can forsee a familiar connection that could explain the MFD for long range sensing?

Best wishes,
J_P

"Putting paint rollers back on paint store shelves, where they belong"

[Qiaozhi]

Maybe if I repeat it enough you will eventually see. Meditation is essential to higher consciousness aka expanded consciousness. The dowsing response becomes extremely more sensitive. How did anyone know how to do this thousands of years ago without scientific equipment?
Repeating the same thing numerous times, does not make it true.
You really are living in cloud cuckoo land.

[J_Player]

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[Max]

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:lol::lol::lol: I belive it happened for real! :D

Maybe he had to repaint home.. and got the idea that way!:rolleyes:

I'm sure the paint shop guywho sold him something 50 of them at a time asked himself about the mental sanity of the poor D*** , or about if he was a compulsive house painter! :lol:

Sure he couldn't know what would be the real purpose of all this business....:rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm not here to defend Dell. But like he says, if it works, use it. I do like his X-Scan especially for currency. I have an earlier version of the rod shown. Mine only has one pod. It;s not my favorite rod but I have used it at times when other rods were not working.

I've been working on my own rod design. The one I ended up with is not friction free, but it's moreso than than anything I have seen or used. Of course it's no good in wind, but it is so sensitive that it spoiled me to other rods. I plan on building and selling them sometime later this year after a few more improvements. I'll try to keep the price down to a few hundred $$$. The final price will be determined on how much labor cost.This rod is not for beginners, it's just too sensitive. More updates later. I might also sell an economy model without the jeweled bearings.

[J_Player]

Hi Mike(Mont),
You are correct. I believe Dell once said he used the pointy end of his LRL to clean the crevices on his boat if he needs to. Why not if it works?

It is interesting that you like that rod for currency. Can you tell us any stories of currency you have found with it?

Also, you will find that paint stores sell rollers in that same shape that have pretty low friction plastic bearings on the small diameter "weenie roller" model. But these rollers probably don't fit the brass rods. They are made for the larger diameter steel rods of the roller frame. And there are some full size paint rollers that actually have hard plastic ball bearings in them for even lower friction if that could be useful in your new design. These are built into the larger paint roller frames, so you are stuck with using the steel paint roller for the rod.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

You misread my post. I don't use his rod. I don't even use the X-scan much. You know full well I don't discuss my TH projects, but I will say I have never dug up any cash. I searched for a lost bank envelope one time and got a hit in a full dumpster. Maybe someone threw it away thinking it was empty. I don't dumpster dive. I told you I talked to a guy who trained his dog for cash. The second he turns on the transmitter the dog goes right to the spot. I also told you about a guy whose dog lies down on the signal line. You're just pathetic. No wonder you can't dowse "any better than random chance". Your momma taught you wrong. You should read up on Marcel Vogel. I did a web search on "birefringence in liquid crystals" and was surprised to see the interference patterns just like I see when locating. Christopher Hills talked about this and it's a major part of his teachings (although he never mentioned the term).

[Theseus]

I do like his X-Scan especially for currency.

And exactly how much hidden currency have you actually found with it. I'm not talking about currency in plain sight, or currency that you hid or had someone else hide. I mean currency that was totally unknown to you, before the X-Scan pointed to it, and you dug it up. :lol:


I've been working on my own rod design. The one I ended up with is not friction free, but it's moreso than than anything I have seen or used. Of course it's no good in wind, but it is so sensitive that it spoiled me to other rods. I plan on building and selling them sometime later this year after a few more improvements. I'll try to keep the price down to a few hundred $$$. The final price will be determined on how much labor cost.This rod is not for beginners, it's just too sensitive. More updates later. I might also sell an economy model without the jeweled bearings.

Oh how wonderful, yet another wannabe Wallet-miner. And I noticed you are already using Carl's forum to inject some free advertising. :nono:

Maybe you ought to talk to Tim Williams before you get too far into production. He found it wasn't a very good idea to market and sell LRL gadgets that really could not be proven to be anything but an over-priced bent coat hanger.

[J_Player]

And exactly how much hidden currency have you actually found with it.
On July 5, 2008, The Los Angeles Times published an article that said this about illegal drugs in the USA:
The United States has been spending $69 billion a year worldwide for the last 40 years...
...Under our failed drug policy, it is easier for young people to obtain illegal drugs than a six-pack of beer.

Suppose there was a way to locate the illegal drugs wherever they are, and even as they come into the country? Well there is!! Dell Winders has produced an LRL which he says is the best discrimination he has ever used for locating the combined ingredient of elements contained in paper currency or pharmaceuticals. Dell devoted more than half the advertising space for the X-Scan detailing how people quickly find hidden currency with it. Can you imagine how easily it will find hidden suitcases full of drug money? Or maybe find out where the stolen armored car money bags are hidden?

Now it seems to me that if the US is spending $69 billion a year to stop drug trafficking, then a mere $690 million (only 1% of the budget) could be used to equip the coast guard, DEA agents, and border patrols with an X-Scan. Of course, Dell would become rich overnight, but look at all the millions of pounds of illegal pharmaceuticals will be stopped which are currently slipping through.

Now, illegal drug trafficking is only the tip of the iceberg of new markets for the X-Scan. A lot more money is being spent for airport security on a global scale. Since the X-Scan is the best discrimination Dell has ever used for locating the combined ingredient of elements contained in paper currency or pharmaceuticals, it is obviously discriminating organic compounds. What better way to locate explosives in an airport? Look at the millions that are being spent for metal detectors, x-rays and hand-held tools that can see through walls. These could become unnecessary if the security guards knew about the X-Scan.

So why don't we see the X-Scan as standard issue in the Coast Guard and in airport security? Well, for one, It takes Dell 1-2 weeks to build an instrument and at that slow pace he's always back ordered with a 2 week, up to 3 month waiting period for delivery. I suppose his eyes aren't as good as they once were, and soldering goes slow.

Also, these agencies will want to see a demonstration before sending a purchase order for millions of X-Scans. And since Dell has said he does not give demonstrations, I suppose there is no way these organizations can observe the instrument of their dreams in action. So It appears we will see the X-Scan used in the private sector rather than protecting large populations from drug trafficking and terrorist threats.

Makes sense to me, don't it? Well... off for my morning meditation

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

I'm not selling anything...yet. If I sell any here I'll be sure to give Carl something. He might even want one for his collection. I won't sell anything unless I think it is worthwhile. The one I am using now is more sensitive than my old Ranger Tell Examiner, and I don't even have the jeweled bearings on it. And I have at least three more improvements to try. In the mean time, tend to your knitting, Granny.

[Fred]

I will begin to get interested in L rods the day they will be perfectly ballanced, so it will be impossible to willingly make them point to the ground .:razz:

[Qiaozhi]

The one I am using now is more sensitive than my old Ranger Tell Examiner, and I don't even have the jeweled bearings on it.
In what way is it more sensitive than a Ranger Tell Examiner? Do you mean that it's easier to detect gravity?

[Fred]

In what way is it more sensitive than a Ranger Tell Examiner? Do you mean that it's easier to detect gravity?
The thickier the rods the more sensitive they are...The new ones (being researched right now) will be lead rods :).Gold rods are for experts only, and uranium rods have the tendency to "blue flash" you if you look to closely at them.
Regards,
Fred.

[Mike(Mont)]

If you can't dowse, then this is a non-issue. As I said, the rod will hesitate like some resistance that tries to stop it from sweeping through the edge of the target's field. Most rods with bushings or bearings will have places where they hang up, where the bearings sieze. If fact some people like this, I do not. Sure it makes it easier to hold the rod still until something strong enough breaks it away. This is good for beginners as a training rod. Solid handle rods don't have bearing trouble but are no where near as sensitive. They do allow you to tilt the handle in the opposite direction to load-up the rod. Sensitivity is not always good. In windy weather, a sensitive rod is useless, so the extremely sensitive rod is not a do-it-all rod but you can learn things with one.

[Fred]

Is that so?
I have a solution:just include your rod in a plastic , teflon or wood disc, then wind will have no more influence on it.
You can even sell this new generation high tech stuff a few thousands dollars more...
Fred.

[Mike(Mont)]

The absolute plain-Jane model will have an introductory price of $50, but it's a couple weeks away. In a way, the rod is a trainer because it teaches you things.

[Theseus]

As I said, the rod will hesitate like some resistance that tries to stop it from sweeping through the edge of the target's field.

For your information, that "bump" or hesitation is caused strictly by the ideomotor response, which was produced from within the mind of the dowser. It's like the mind says, "I think this is the right direction to the target." On subsequent sweeps, the rod will actually lock on that direction, which is another way that the mind confirms the direction of the target.

Unfortunately, locations found in this manner (dowsing) will only produce a viable target with the same success rate as random guessing. ;)

It doesn't matter if you use the highest priced dowsing wand from Fitzgerald, or Dell's X-Scan, or your new scam dowsing wand, or a bent coat hanger ---the results will always be the same; just like random guessing.

[Mike(Mont)]

Well, thanks for the suggestions on a name for the rod, but somehow I don't think "random chance scam rod" has a positive aura about it. Right now I'm leaning towards "The Aero Rod" because the action is so smooth it is like it is flying (it's not). Of course there is some friction/drag, but most of that is from the air resistance to the rod itself. There's no other rod like it and I believe it will set a world standard.

[Theseus]

Well, thanks for the suggestions on a name for the rod, but somehow I don't think "random chance scam rod" has a positive aura about it. Right now I'm leaning towards "The Aero Rod" because the action is so smooth it is like it is flying (it's not). Of course there is some friction/drag, but most of that is from the air resistance to the rod itself. There's no other rod like it and I believe it will set a world standard.

Would this be a world standard in dowsing rods, or paint rollers? Will Sherwin-Williams be a distributor?

[Fred]

The absolute plain-Jane model will have an introductory price of $50, but it's a couple weeks away. In a way, the rod is a trainer because it teaches you things.
Hi,
Who is Jane?
:razz:
Fred

[Theseus]

In a way, the rod is a trainer because it teaches you things.

Yeah, for those who haven't learned by now what a scam dowsing rod looks like, it teaches them how to waste $50 bucks on a contraption that will produce the same results as a bent coat hanger (or just random guessing).

I'd call that a real learning tool. :lol:

[J_Player]

Right now I'm leaning towards "The Aero Rod" because the action is so smooth it is like it is flying (it's not). Of course there is some friction/drag, but most of that is from the air resistance to the rod itself.So smooth it's like flying?
Hey..!!!
There are painters all over the world who are just sick and tired of their paint rollers seizing up right in the middle of a roller stroke on a wall. Do you realize the significance of a roller with a bearing so smooth it is like it is flying? What do you think a pro painter would pay for a roller that doesn't seize up? how about a case of rollers that don't seize up? Or thousands of units per month for the large distributors?

What do you think Purdy Corporation International would pay for thousands of these paint rollers... (oops I mean dowsing rods) that are smooth as flying? Hey... forget dowsing for treasure, the real treasure is in a huge contract with the painting accessory distributors!

Best wishes,
J_P

[Mike(Mont)]

The Aero Rod will set a world standard for dowsing rods in smoothness of motion in the bearings. Yes, at this point, the basic economy model is not an LRL. I use it with a transmitter like the X-Scan to indicate the signal line. $50 is the give-away price. If I was to pay someone to build them, I'd lose money.

[Theseus]

The Aero Rod will set a world standard for dowsing rods in smoothness of motion in the bearings. Yes, at this point, the basic economy model is not an LRL. I use it with a transmitter like the X-Scan to indicate the signal line. $50 is the give-away price. If I was to pay someone to build them, I'd lose money.

Not an LRL! If it's not an LRL than it must be a paint roller.

You see, LRL stands for Long Range Locator, and that term encompasses all gadgets, devices and contraptions that operate by the rules of dowsing. It matters not if the device is a simple swing rod with no handle, or the most expensive "locating" contraption (complete with L-rods) from Fitzgerald --it is still an LRL, and it still indicates after an ideomotor response is generated by the dowser holding it.

Incidentally, the term "signal line" is often used to explain the link between the dowser and the sought after target. It is discussed AS IF there were some kind of physical "line" of energy or radiation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The existence of "signal lines" is, and always has been, just a concoction of some scam LRL salesman to make it seem like there is something physical going on in the ground. It is a total hoax and nothing more than a figment of your imagination.

Gravity is the ONLY thing any LRL can detect, and in most cases it does a really nice job of it.

[Mike(Mont)]

I have an old Fitz rod and it does have a nice set of bearings but it's not as responsive. The Aero Rod's bearings remind me of driving on pure ice. It's hard to get traction enough to get your ideomotor started. Although the bearings are not perfectly friction free, they never hang up/seize.

There are lot of people who disagree with your opinion on signal lines. Hey did you hear Chapman got denied his parole today?

[J_Player]

Incidentally, the term "signal line" is often used to explain the link between the dowser and the sought after target. It is discussed AS IF there were some kind of physical "line" of energy or radiation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The existence of "signal lines" is, and always has been, just a concoction of some scam LRL salesman to make it seem like there is something physical going on in the ground. It is a total hoax and nothing more than a figment of your imagination.

Signal lines? Wait... why not check with an expert? Hung told us that the Ranger Tell works on signal lines: http://thunting.com/geotech/forums/showthread.php?p=41226#post41226
This is the principle in which the Rangertell Examiner works. Resonance to the elements subatomic levels when a carrier signal line is shot and returned.

You will see that hung was responding to Dell's post where he claimed:The repelling force that seems to affect the LRL Rod(s) appears "As If" it is more magnetic, than electrical. In that context, I built an experimental magnetic/harmonics prototype based on a theory I developed in the field study of MFD, of what I think could be classified as a method of Magnetic ressonance.
So we see how scientists develop their theories, starting with an "appearance" and an "As If" to arrive at magnetic resonance. This "As If" style magnetic resonance can easily lead to the principle of a calculator shooting a carrier signal and returning it, which in turn proves the LRL works through these signal lines.

You can prove it to yourself too. No need to buy a Ranger Tell, or even make an L rod. Simply set your DMM for the lowest microvolt scale and hold the metal part of the probe in your hands with wires dangling in the air. Touch the probe to any calculator then remove it. Press a few keys while you're at it. If you see any fluctuations on the DMM display reading of microvolts, this proves the calculator is shooting signal lines. Now the only trick is to put the calculator somewhere near a paint roller so the signal lines know where to shoot to.
:rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Well, thanks for the suggestions on a name for the rod, but somehow I don't think "random chance scam rod" has a positive aura about it. Right now I'm leaning towards "The Aero Rod" because the action is so smooth it is like it is flying (it's not). Of course there is some friction/drag, but most of that is from the air resistance to the rod itself. There's no other rod like it and I believe it will set a world standard.
Sometimes I don't think you're being serious. In fact, it has occurred to me that you're really just another skeptic taking the mickey ... or should that be "taking the Mike"?
Perhaps you could call it "The Excavator", because it removes money from a buyer's wallet even quicker than a Ranger Tell. Anyway, you cannot call it the "Aero Rod", unless it's made of chocolate. :lol:

[Mike(Mont)]

Yes, I'm serious. I've got all the parts and will begin construction this week.

[Theseus]

Sometimes I don't think you're being serious. :lol:

Unfortunately, Mike is very serious. :frown:

He goes way back in his effort to buy (make) the ultimate dowsing rod. Many of the old-timer wallet-miners have taken advantage of Mike, like Claude Cochran, and who knows how many others. Certainly, Dell has gotten into his wallet too.

Too bad... really. The term OCD comes to mind.

[Qiaozhi]

Certainly, Dell has gotten into his wallet too.
It must be getting crowded in there...
... with wallet-miners I mean, not money - that's all gone! :lol:

[Mike(Mont)]

You might not understand but I have enjoyed every penny I spent on locators. Like I said before, a friend spent $10,000 on a used motorcycle. Hotter than hell in the summer, cold as hell the other two months of riding weather. Life-threatening dangerous every second. Whatever turns you on. I've never enjoyed a hobby any more since I quit hang gliding/paragliding. I love learning everything I can about locating. Just love it.

[Theseus]

You might not understand but I have enjoyed every penny I spent on locators. Like I said before, a friend spent $10,000 on a used motorcycle. Hotter than hell in the summer, cold as hell the other two months of riding weather. Life-threatening dangerous every second. Whatever turns you on. I've never enjoyed a hobby any more since I quit hang gliding/paragliding. I love learning everything I can about locating. Just love it.

Doing a hobby you enjoy and spending money on it, is not a problem. I'm sure lots of folks have a hobby they support and enjoy.

The really sad part about dowsing and LRLs, is that a few folks (like yourself) have been suckered into believing in signal lines, sympathetic radiations, MFD, and other dowsing rod enhancements, which of course are totally bogus. And even more sad, you've given up a good deal of cash to the professional Wallet-Miners that feed off of folks like you.

If all you'd ever done was taken a bent wire and messed around in your back yard with it, that wouldn't be so bad.

But to be brainwashed by a few of the scam artist LRL con men, is truly a shame. What they are doing is a crime called Willful Deception (because they know full well they are running a scam), and it's really too bad folks like you have fallen for their scam schemes.

[Mike(Mont)]

I've found gold with every locator I have owned. No, I never got rich. Mostly small stuff, broken jewlery, things with gold paint on them, etc. I don't get out much, a few times a year. Treasure hunting is a difficult job. I just couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You are the reason I dislike dowsers.

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't dislike all dowsers, just the ones that remind me of you. They are the Elmer Fudd type that came out of the Great Depression era. Funny thing is they all have their own dowsing contraptions for sale (your wood pendulum sold ten years ago for $39 for a piece of wood!). Hypocrite is not a good enough term. I'm talking beyond obsession here.

[J_Player]

I've found gold with every locator I have owned. No, I never got rich. Mostly small stuff, broken jewlery, things with gold paint on them, etc. I don't get out much, a few times a year. Treasure hunting is a difficult job. I just couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You are the reason I dislike dowsers.Yo dude.
You say you don't dumpster dive. But take another look...
Most grocery store dumpsters in the USA have enough food to feed 2-3 large families continuously. Not that you have a large family, but you could collect the usable refuse from a grocery store dumpster and sell it for better bucks than the broken junk jewelry you find. Wanna talk about fun? How much fun is it to dig empty holes? Wouldn't you rather make a score every time in a dumpster? So what if there are a few rodents to fight for your prize.... You can easily defeat them. Don't you think this would be more fun than trying to sell LRLs to suckers?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Theseus]

I don't dislike all dowsers, just the ones that remind me of you. They are the Elmer Fudd type that came out of the Great Depression era. Funny thing is they all have their own dowsing contraptions for sale (your wood pendulum sold ten years ago for $39 for a piece of wood!). Hypocrite is not a good enough term. I'm talking beyond obsession here.

Wood pendulum? Sorry, you lost me there. Guess you must be thinking of someone else. :rolleyes:

[Theseus]

I've found gold with every locator I have owned. No, I never got rich. Mostly small stuff, broken jewlery, things with gold paint on them, etc. I don't get out much, a few times a year. Treasure hunting is a difficult job. I just couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You are the reason I dislike dowsers.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but IF in fact you've actually found gold with every locator you own, it was not because of the locator, it was because you dug enough holes until the odds of chance took over and eventually you stumbled onto something. Or, you didn't hide the target well enough, and you already knew where it was.

Locators (LRLs) don't actually find anything. They can't. They indicate Gravity, or they might move as the result of breeze or wind. Whenever a dowser, like yourself, attributes a find to a locator; you can be sure of one thing. That is, if a dowser digs enough holes eventually something will be found that resembles what they think they were looking for. It is a basic law of Probability and Odds.

[Tim Williams]

Mike you must be talking about this;

http://thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,2495.0.html

Tim

[Mike(Mont)]

Actually I was talking about a piece of wood on a string for $39. That was at least ten years ago. A real, state-of-the-art invention.

[Mike(Mont)]

Someone needs to read this book to find some happiness in their life.

"Knowing Your Intuitive Mind" by Dale Olson

It can teach you to get rid of your negativity. Like the saying goes, "Like attracts like." You might even learn how to dowse.

[Qiaozhi]

I've found gold with every locator I have owned. No, I never got rich. Mostly small stuff, broken jewlery, things with gold paint on them, etc. I don't get out much, a few times a year. Treasure hunting is a difficult job. I just couldn't disagree with you more on this one. You are the reason I dislike dowsers.

I don't dislike all dowsers, just the ones that remind me of you. They are the Elmer Fudd type that came out of the Great Depression era. Funny thing is they all have their own dowsing contraptions for sale (your wood pendulum sold ten years ago for $39 for a piece of wood!). Hypocrite is not a good enough term. I'm talking beyond obsession here.
Well ... I knew you were horribly confused, but you seem to have dropped over the edge with this one! :lol:
May I suggest that you stop taking the tablets for a while, and see if the fog starts to clear.

[Theseus]

Well ... I knew you were horribly confused, but you seem to have dropped over the edge with this one! :lol:
May I suggest that you stop taking the tablets for a while, and see if the fog starts to clear.

Or, at least don't mix the pills with "juice". Lots of brain cells have been fried, never to return. :frown:

[Mike(Mont)]

I recommended the book because I see so many errors around here. As I have said before,God gave us two sides to our brain. I could use some nasty adjectives to describe what I see, but it's a waste of my time. Ego is a major issue. BTW, I think I figured out where I went wrong with the stabilizer system for the rod. But I need to order parts.

[Theseus]

I recommended the book because I see so many errors around here. As I have said before,God gave us two sides to our brain. I could use some nasty adjectives to describe what I see, but it's a waste of my time. Ego is a major issue. BTW, I think I figured out where I went wrong with the stabilizer system for the rod. But I need to order parts.

When someone explains the fallacy in your "beliefs" about dowsing, and uses ordinary accepted physics; you automatically assume they have an ego problem and need mental help. How ludicrous and self-centered of you.

From your writing and all the books you quote from, it's more than just a little obvious that the problems you suffer from are the exact same ones you are accusing others of having.

I suggest you take a little breather..... step back from this whole thing and think about what you've said and what you've done. Think about how you "come off" when interfacing with the rest of the world. Categorically rejecting modern science, physics and basic axioms, which have been proven thousands of times, is not exactly a great position for you to take; and expect people to believe you and agree with you. Also, belittling and attacking those who expound on rational science, does not help your case.

Your time would be better spent developing your theories and "beliefs"; prove them to yourself and then submit them for others to verify and substantiate. If they really are valid then others should be able to verify them as well, and thus add credence to your case. That's the way "real" science is elevated from theory to axiom.

Perhaps if you were to read some of the many books you quote from, you might gain some real insight and help for yourself.

[Mike(Mont)]

I've been over this previously, but mathematics is imaginary. I mean they do talk about "real numbers" (integers, for example) as being different than everything else. I don't think you can even understand this you are so indoctrinated. Don't get me wrong it is useful in some things. I've probably studied/enjoyed more math than most people here, so it's not like I think it's bogus, just that it has it's limits and it's not God. Dowsing is a lot closer to God. There are so many instances of great religious figures using dowsing in the Bible. When Jesus held His arm out over the water and pointed to the fish, that was dowsing. Some people misinterpreted it as a miracle. He said you have to phrase every question for a yes/no answer. That is dowsing. Even when He changed the water to wine, this is liquid crystals and I'm certain you don't understand. You block it out. I might even go so far as to say all His miracles were really dowsing, but I'm sure I will be accused of blasphemy, but this is really acknowledging that HE is God. We mere mortals can only attempt to imitate Him and I see nothing wrong with that. Yes, people who only use their left side/logical brain are considered severely retarded. I don't think anyone here has gone that far, just flirting with it. Sorry, but that's the facts, Jack.

[Theseus]

I've been over this previously, but mathematics is imaginary. I mean they do talk about "real numbers" (integers) as being different than everything else. I don't think you can even understand this you are so indoctrinated. Don't get me wrong it is useful in some things. I've probably studied/enjoyed more math than most people here, so it's not like I think it's bogus, just that it has it's limits and it's not God. Dowsing is a lot closer to God. There are so many instances of great religious figures using dowsing in the Bible. When Jesus held His arm out over the water and poijnted to the fish, that was dowsing. Some people misinterpreted it as a miracle. He said you have to phrase every question for a yes/no answer. That is dowsing. Even when He changed the water to wine, this is liquid crystals and I'm certain you don't understand. You block it out. I might even go so far as to say all His miracles were really dowsing, but I'm sure I will be accused of blasphemy, but this is really acknowledging that HE is God. Us mere mortals can only imitate Him. Yes, people who only use their left side/logical brain are considered severely retarded. I don't think anyone here has gone that far, just flirting with it. Sorry, but that's the facts, Jack.

Wow! I rest my case. You are in need of a lot of psychological help.

[Mike(Mont)]

You are real good at dishing it out but when it's your turn you can't stomach the truth. Noit only have I studied more math but also more theology (Jesuit trained). YOU have a case, alright. Sorry but I have no more time for this. I have Aero Rods to build. I hope to get one out to Carl this week.

[Theseus]

Noit(hic) only have I studied more math but also more theology (Jesuit trained)...

And exactly how would you know that? Where did you get your information; from a dowsing rod? Did you look inside my office to observe the certificates on the walls, or are you also a mind reader?

You make a great many statements, accusations and assumptions about people and things that you really know nothing about.

You've probably done that for so long, you aren't even aware of what you are doing.

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't know how this relates to mulitple personalities, but I think I should post6 this here.

I was at a dowser's convention and a couple highly skilled dowsers talked about Adverse Energies and Spirits. In one case a person called to ask for help. Appearently the husband had dabbled in psychic stuff and invited an evil entity into their home. They were terrified. "Can you remove it?" was the question. "No, but I can help YOU to remove it." I don't have the specifics here, but he mentioned transmutation, turning it into positive energy, binding and holding it harmless, and removal. Maybe someone at ASD American Society of Dowsers could try to help you. I certainly am not qualified nor do I wish to get involved. Maybe you should ask the question "Am I afraid of dowsing?"

[Max]

You are real good at dishing it out but when it's your turn you can't stomach the truth. Noit only have I studied more math but also more theology (Jesuit trained). YOU have a case, alright. Sorry but I have no more time for this. I have Aero Rods to build. I hope to get one out to Carl this week.

Don't you know ? ...so called "jesuits" maybe gave you no understanding about being humble! :lol:

Do you maybe have to come back school ? :rolleyes:

Think about... you're about idolater about your rod... :D

Kind regards,
Max

[hung]

I've been over this previously, but mathematics is imaginary. I mean they do talk about "real numbers" (integers, for example) as being different than everything else. I don't think you can even understand this you are so indoctrinated. Don't get me wrong it is useful in some things. I've probably studied/enjoyed more math than most people here, so it's not like I think it's bogus, just that it has it's limits and it's not God. Dowsing is a lot closer to God. There are so many instances of great religious figures using dowsing in the Bible. When Jesus held His arm out over the water and pointed to the fish, that was dowsing. Some people misinterpreted it as a miracle. He said you have to phrase every question for a yes/no answer. That is dowsing. Even when He changed the water to wine, this is liquid crystals and I'm certain you don't understand. You block it out. I might even go so far as to say all His miracles were really dowsing, but I'm sure I will be accused of blasphemy, but this is really acknowledging that HE is God. We mere mortals can only attempt to imitate Him and I see nothing wrong with that. Yes, people who only use their left side/logical brain are considered severely retarded. I don't think anyone here has gone that far, just flirting with it. Sorry, but that's the facts, Jack.


I am amazed to acknowledge in your paragraph above, the high level of knowledge, the extreme effective simplicity in the line of thought and the mature mind you disclose.
Congratulations. You are most likely to suceed in many ventures the ordinary ones will not. Don't ever get discouraged.

[Dell Winders]

Think about... you're about idolater about your rod... :D

"My Rod & my staff shall comfort me"

It' comforting to know that you can find food & water for survival in a wilderness, using your inherent sub-conscious mental abilities, and a Dowsing Rod. Dell

[Theseus]

"My Rod & my staff shall comfort me"

It' comforting to know that you can find food & water for survival in a wilderness, using your inherent sub-conscious mental abilities, and a Dowsing Rod. Dell

Sold any good paint rollers lately, or are they all backordered. :lol:

[Fred]

It' comforting to know that you can find food & water for survival in a wilderness, using your inherent sub-conscious mental abilities, and a Dowsing Rod. Dell

It also works with food and water ??? :shocked::shocked:

You could make a fortune in the Sahara...

[Max]

It also works with food and water ??? :shocked::shocked:

You could make a fortune in the Sahara...

uhm... better if he stay away from there... I think an Tuareg AK47's volley of bullets in the back is the minimum "prize" there for LRL sellers! :lol:

Poor Dell! Will run faster than bullets there! :razz:

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

As I have said before,God gave us two sides to our brain.

Dowsing is a lot closer to God. There are so many instances of great religious figures using dowsing in the Bible. When Jesus held His arm out over the water and pointed to the fish, that was dowsing. Some people misinterpreted it as a miracle. He said you have to phrase every question for a yes/no answer. That is dowsing. Even when He changed the water to wine, this is liquid crystals and I'm certain you don't understand. You block it out. I might even go so far as to say all His miracles were really dowsing, but I'm sure I will be accused of blasphemy, but this is really acknowledging that HE is God. We mere mortals can only attempt to imitate Him and I see nothing wrong with that.

"My Rod & my staff shall comfort me"

Watch out ... the God Squad is about! :barf:
You really are "lost in space".

[Fred]

As I have said before,God gave us two sides to our brain.
He should have given you too the ability to use both halves at the same time... :razz:

[Max]

He should have given you too the ability to use both halves at the same time... :razz:

We must first understand if one , at least, works in LRL people... :lol:

I have serious dubts after reading lunatic posts here... :rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

He should have given you too the ability to use both halves at the same time... :razz:

We must first understand if one , at least, works in LRL people... :lol:

I have serious dubts after reading lunatic posts here... :rolleyes:

Kind regards,
Max
I think one half is fighting the other. :lol:

[J_Player]

Some possible answers to the question "How does the dowsing rod work?"

CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK: It boldly points where no rod has pointed before.

JERRY SEINFELD: How does any inanimate object find the way to treasure?
I mean, why doesn't anyone ever think to ask, What the heck was this rod doing pointing all over the place, anyway?

JACK NICHOLSON: It don't work! It's a f___in' paint roller, you idiot! That's how it f___in' works.

MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.: I envision a world where all rods will be free to
point wherever they want without having their motives being called into question.

MOSES: And God came down from the Heavens, and He said unto the rod,
"Thou shalt pointeth treasure." And the rod pointeth treasure, and there
was much rejoicing.

DR. SEUSS:
Did the rod point to the ring?
Did it find a golden ring?
Maybe the rod found the ring,
but how it did, is another thing!

GRANDPA: In my day, we didn't ask how the rod finds treasure.
Someone told us that the rod finds treasure, and that was good enough for us.

PLATO: The direction the rod points results in discoveries that are for the greater good.

ARISTOTLE: It is the nature of rods to find treasure.

HIPPOCRATES: Finding treasure is the result of an excess of phlegm in the rod's pancreas.

KARL MARX: It was a historical inevitability for people to believe rods find treasure.

MACHIAVELLI: The point is that we believe the rod found the treasure. Who cares why?
The end of believing the rod finds treasure justifies whatever motive there was to sell the rod.

DARWIN: Rods, over great periods of time, have been naturally selected in such a way that they are now genetically disposed to find treasures.

EINSTEIN: Whether the rod found the treasure or the rest of the universe rotated to where the rod was pointed depends upon your frame of reference.

BILL GATES: I have just released MS-dowsing rod 2008, which will not only find treasure, but will paint walls, swat flies, and scratch your back...
and Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of MS-dowsing rod.

SHERWIN WILLIAMS: It's been a good year in paint roller sales.

:rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

[Max]

Some possible answers to the question "How does the dowsing rod work?"

CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK: It boldly points where no rod has pointed before.

JERRY SEINFELD: How does any inanimate object find the way to treasure?
I mean, why doesn't anyone ever think to ask, What the heck was this rod doing pointing all over the place, anyway?

JACK NICHOLSON: It don't work! It's a f___in' paint roller, you idiot! That's how it f___in' works.

MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.: I envision a world where all rods will be free to
point wherever they want without having their motives being called into question.

MOSES: And God came down from the Heavens, and He said unto the rod,
"Thou shalt pointeth treasure." And the rod pointeth treasure, and there
was much rejoicing.

DR. SEUSS:
Did the rod point to the ring?
Did it find a golden ring?
Maybe the rod found the ring,
but how it did, is another thing!

GRANDPA: In my day, we didn't ask how the rod finds treasure.
Someone told us that the rod finds treasure, and that was good enough for us.

PLATO: The direction the rod points results in discoveries that are for the greater good.

ARISTOTLE: It is the nature of rods to find treasure.

HIPPOCRATES: Finding treasure is the result of an excess of phlegm in the rod's pancreas.

KARL MARX: It was a historical inevitability for people to believe rods find treasure.

MACHIAVELLI: The point is that we believe the rod found the treasure. Who cares why?
The end of believing the rod finds treasure justifies whatever motive there was to sell the rod.

DARWIN: Rods, over great periods of time, have been naturally selected in such a way that they are now genetically disposed to find treasures.

EINSTEIN: Whether the rod found the treasure or the rest of the universe rotated to where the rod was pointed depends upon your frame of reference.

BILL GATES: I have just released MS-dowsing rod 2008, which will not only find treasure, but will paint walls, swat flies, and scratch your back...
and Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of MS-dowsing rod.

SHERWIN WILLIAMS: It's been a good year in paint roller sales.

:rolleyes:

Best wishes,
J_P

:lol:

I always thought that these remote sensing pages are much like a comic strip...

I like the above... maybe we could add Adolf Hitler's opinion also about...

and Clint Eastwood's too. :D



Adolf Hitler: Success is the rod usage is sole earthly judge of right and wrong.

Clint Eastwood: The rod ? If you want a guarantee, buy a toaster. :lol:

Kind regards,
Max

[J_Player]

Clint Eastwood?
What Clint Eastwood would say about dowsing rod and LRL salesmen?

:oh:

[olympios]

Clint Eastwood used the rod a lot. 44 calibre was his favorite.

[Theseus]

Sorry but I have no more time for this. I have Aero Rods to build. I hope to get one out to Carl this week.

So what happened to the Aero Rods?

Carl: Did you get a sample rod from Mike, and have you had a chance to test it? Does it indicate "treasure" or only "gravity", just like every other LRL?:rolleyes: